1981-01-20 Council minutesPage 1409
January 20, 1981
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, January 20, 1981
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council,
City of Mendota Heights, was held at 7:30 p.m., at City Hall, 750 South Plaza
Drive, Mendota Heights, Minnesota.
Mayor Lockwood called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.M. The following members
were present: Mayor Lockwood, Councilman Hartmann, Councilman Losleben, Council-
man Mertensotto and Councilwoman Witt.
FEASIBILITY
HEARING - FRIENDLY
HILLS WATER
CONVERSION
Mayor Lockwood opened the meeting for the purpose of a public
hearing on the proposed conversion of the Friendly Hills water
system from the Mendota Water Company to the St. Paul Water
system. Mayor Lockwood turned the meeting over to Acting
Mayor Mertensotto. Mayor Lockwood and Councilwoman Witt were
temporarily excused to participate in a discussion in the
City offices with Ivy Falls First Addition homeowners on
proposed street and drainage system alternatives.
Acting Mayor Mertensotto stated that both the legal public
hearing notice and an informal explanatory letter from the
Public Works Director had been mailed to owners of all property
served by the Mendota Water Company. He then turned the hearing
over to the City Administrator and Public Works Director for an
explanation of the proposed project.
Administrator Johnson advised the audience that the franchise
granted by the City to the Mendota Water Company in 1956,
authorizing the right to own and operate a private water
system, will expire in May of 1981. At that time, the water
system will revert to City ownership. Mr. Johnson stated that
the City does not operate a water system currently, simply
installs watermains and assesses the costs for those mains
to the abutting properties. The St. Paul Water Utility pro-
vides meters, does meter readings and billings, and provides
water through the municipal system. He pointed out that the
City is not interested in operating the 230 customer system
because of the costs involved in operating such a system, and
that the prevailing thought is that the system should be
integrated into the St. Paul Water system. He noted that one
advantage to the conversion is the fact that the water provided
by St. Paul Water is pre-treated and softened. This would allow
the homeowners to eliminate existing water softeners and the
cost of their operation. He also advised that the average St.
Paul Water billing to customers presently under the Mendota,
Water Company-system would be considerably less than the $17.00
per month charge by Mendota Water Company. Mr. Johnson advised
the audience that there will be costs associated with the con-
version. He stated that if the project is ordered in, the City
would need to hold a later assessment hearing, at which time
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costs for the conversion would be assessed against the bene-
fitting properties.
Public Works Director Danielson stated that the proposed pro-
ject would require adjustments to be made in the existing
system, both within the residences and in the street. He
noted that the first adjustments needing to be made would
be those within the residences. Mr. Danielson then advised
the audience of those changes needing to be made in-house.
He briefly explained some of the engineering details, includ-
ing the various connection points to the St. Paul Water system,
as well as various changes required by St. Paul Water, such as
the cleaning of gate valve boxes, repair or correction of curb
stops, and a number of other changes which must be made. He
stated that after all of the repair and construction work
in-house and in the street is completed, and the connection is
made to the St. Paul Water system, the existing water tank will
be torn down.
Mr. Danielson introduced Mr. Bernie Bullert, representing the
St. Paul Water Department, who was present to distribute mat-
erials and answer questions.
Acting Mayor Mertensotto asked for questions and comments from
the audience.
Mr. George Buttleman, 730 Navajo Lane, stated that he is "gun-
shy" from a cost standpoint because of the cost increases
during installation of the sanitary sewer system for Friendly
Hills which came in at a much greater cost than was originally
suggested. He asked how fiLm the price for this conversion is.
He also asked whether the City intends to limit the number of
contractors who can do the in-house plumbing work.
Public Works Director Danielson stated that bids have not been
taken on the proposed project at this point, so it can not be
100% determined that the proposed assessment rate will be the
final rate. He did note, however, that a good deal of research
was done preparatory to the cost estimate, noting that recent
bidding procedures in local communities have been very favorable.
In response to the question on contractor limitations, he
stated that the only restriction is that plumber hired for
in-house conversions must be licensed by the State and the City
of St. Paul. He stated that homeowners are not required to use
any specific contractor, nor are they limited in any regard
other than the restriction on adequate licensing.
Mr. Buttleman stated that he has heard that there are many
leaks in the existing system and asked whether the conversion
to St. Paul and the subsequent increase in water pressure would
cause serious problems.
Mr. Danielson stated'that no serious problems are anticipated
as the result of the conversion, however, any leaks which occur
would be corrected through the City's general maintenance budget.
He pointed out, however, that when the City installs a water
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main, it puts in the service to the curb stop. The City repairs
that portion of the water line but would not be responsible
for the pipe from the curbstop into the house. He pointed out
that any repairs necessary from the curbstop to the house would
be the responsibility of the homeowner.
Mr. Bullert stated that the City of St. Paul would only maintain
those services that it has installed, and that it has not been
agreed that St. Paul Water would guarantee the service pipe
from the main to the property.
City Administrator Johnson stated that there is no written
policy on the maintenance relationship, however, as Mr. Bullert
indicated St. Paul Water does not repair services that have been
put in by an individual contractor. As the result, several
years ago, the City of Mendota Heights changed its policy to
provide that St. Paul Water would install the services itself
and guarantee the pipe between the main and the curbstop.
In response to the question over increased pressure causing
additional leaking, Mr. Bullert stated that the mains were
designed for 150 psi, utilizing all copper services which are
designed for 125 pounds of pressure. He could see no problem
in the change from 65 psi (existing pressure) to 100 psi.
Mr. John McGroarty, 2174 Aztec Lane, stated that he and two
adjacent property owners have experienced many problems with
water line freeze-ups, and asked the City to resolve the pro-
blem as part of the conversion project.. He then read a letter
signed by him on behalf of himself, Mr. Krautkremer and Mr.
Lambrecht, and submitted the letter as a matter of record.
Acting Mayor Mertensotto asked Mr. McGroarty if he knew how
many other homes have the similar problems with freeze-ups.
Mr. McGroarty stated that he does not know the number of addi-
tional homeowners having problems. He also stated that he does
not know whether the freezes are occurring within the private
property section or public property. Mr. McGroarty asked the
Council whether it would continue the principle suggested and
agreed to by Mendota Water Company to continually run water in
each of the affected residences throughout the winter months.
Acting Mayor Mertensotto stated that the water line freeze
ups present a specific problem which must be addressed but that
he is unsure what procedure should be used. Administrator
Johnson suggested that the Council publicly request those people
who have had frozen services in the past to make that information
known to the Public Works Director so that the City staff can
determine the extent of the problem and at least recommend some
correction or remedy. Councilman Losleben noted that the
Council must know how many freeze-up problems there are and
then decide how to solve them.
Acting Mayor Mertensotto acknowledged a memo from the City Clerk
relative to the freeze-up complaint submitted by Mr. McGroarty
and the other two property owners. He asked the members_of the
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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audience to advise staff if they have had problems with freeze-
ups in the past.
Mr. Bob Weinzettel asked what the value of the existing water
meters is. Mr. Danielson responded that the St. Paul Water
Company will replace the current meters with St. Paul Water
meters and retain the original meters. He advised that the
Mendota Water Company has agreed to give back to each of the
customers a refund of the original deposit made for the water
meters.
Mr. Lionel Greenburg, 756 Pontiac Place, asked whether the City
had taken any steps relative to getting bids from a contractor
for in-house improvements. Mr. Danielson stated that such bids,
if the project is approved, would'be accepted around the first
of March. He advised that the Mendota Water Company customers
would be advised of the price bid.
Mr. Carl Becker, 2197 Aztec Lane, stated that he has been told
that the pressure reducing valve is adjustable and asked who
sets the pressure. Mr. Bullert responded that the individual
plumbers would set the pressure and that the pressure should be
set at something less than 80 psi. Councilman Losleben cautioned
the audience that the change in water pressure from 65 to 100
psi will not be totally acceptable to the homeowners in the first
few weeks, because the added pressure might result in corrosion
coming through the water pipes for a short period of time.
Mayor Lockwood and Councilwoman Witt returned to the meeting at
8:20 p.m.
Mayor Lockwood advised the audience that anyone who has addi-
tional questions or comments after the public hearing is closed
should feel free to contact the Public Works Director at the
City offices.
Mr. Bullert advised the audience that if the conversion is
authorized, St. Paul Water would accept applications for water
meters in the Mendota Heights City Hall for one week.
There being no further questions or comments from the audience,
Councilman Losleben moved that the hearing be closed.
Councilman Hartmann seconded the motion.
The hearing was closed at 8:28 o'clock P.M. Councilman Losleben
moved the adoption of Resolution No. 81-04, "RESOLUTION ORDERING
PROJECT AND DIRECTING PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TO PREPARE PLANS
AND SPECS THEREFORE, (Improvement No. 78, Project No. 4)."
Councilman Hartmann seconded the motion.
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CASE # 80-17, Mayor Lockwood stated that the public hearing on the Federal
FEDERAL LAND COMPANY Land Company application for Planned Unit Development had
PUD been closed on November 18th, and that at that meeting the
Council had directed preparation of a professional opinion as
to whether the proposed project would be in the best interest
of the City. He then acknowledged receipt of the report
prepared by City Planner Dahlgren with engineering input from
the City Engineer and Public Works Director. Mayor Lockwood
pointed out that copies of the report had been distributed to
the applicant and all adjoining property owners. He then asked
for comments from the Council relative to the report information.
Councilwoman Witt asked City Attorney Winthrop for a clar-
ification of Section 19.1 of the Zoning Ordinance which concerns
the ten acre minimum land area for a P.U.D. consideration. She
asked whether the acreage minimum is a guideline or if the
Council must adhere to it. Mr. Winthrop advised that it is not
a guideline, it is a provision of the Ordinance. He advised
that the provision may be waived by the Council if it determines
that there are valid reasons to consider the provision inapp-
ropriate.
Councilwoman Witt also expressed concern over the ponding area
maintenance and aesthetics. Public Works Director Danielson
stated that the maintenance and grooming of the ponding area
would be taken care of by the developer, even though the
ponding area would be a part of the City's drainage system.
Councilman Mertensotto wondered about the change in site plans
from the original proposal of one-story units to the latest
plan for a mix of one and two-story structures. Mr. Ron
Erickson, architect for Federal Land Company, stated that the
change came as a compromise wherein the developer deleted some
units and maximized the green area.
Councilwoman Witt asked how much larger the footprint would be
if the one-story proposal were developed. Mr. Erickson stated
that there are five two story units, two of which are lower
level walk-outs which would have to remain as proposed because
of land characteristics. He stated that if the other three
units were changed to single story structures, they would add
about 3,000 square feet to the footprint.
Councilman Hartmann disagreed with the statement that the PUD
rather than single family development would significantly
reduce the density. He stated that because of the slopes on
the site, he believes the PUD would actually be an increase
over density possible under single family development. He felt
that sound planning would be to reduce the effects of run-off
and erosion rather than to allow the higher density of the
PUD proposal.
Mr. Erickson responded that there would be less density because
traditionally there are fewer people per household in the
proposed type of development than in single family developments.
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Councilman Hartmann responded that the Council defines density
as ground coverage, and that he does not understand how the
PUD would be lower in density than single family in the number
of units, roof area or whatever comparisons could be made. He
noted that the single family sketch plan included in Mr. Dahl-
gren's report, which Mr. Dahlgren therein stated illustrates
what he would recommend if single family development would
occur, included only 12 single family structures -- a lesser
density than the 15 unit PUD proposal.
Mr. Erickson responded that in the PUD, the dwelling units are
clustered with less roadway and public right-of-way and drive-
way surface than in single family developments. Councilman
Hartmann also expressed concern over the connection between
Miriam and Hiawatha Streets, stating that he believes there
would be a good deal of difficulty-in negotiating the turn.
Mr. Vern Colon, the developer, stated that he does not believe
anyone would have trouble negotiating the turn, that the 90
degree radius is the same as any other intersection in the City.
In response to a question from Mayor Lockwood over clarification
of the number and location of the two-story structures in the
current PUD sketch plan, Exhibit C, Site Plan A, Mr. Erickson
stated that there are three two-story units, identified as
Units 14 and 15, and either unit 3 or 4. Mr. Colon pointed
out that Units 14 and 15 will be located on the site where a
two-story barn currently is located.
Councilman Mertensotto stated that what is disturbing about the
matter is that the arguments in the report in favor of the PUD
could apply to any open space in the City. He noted that the
Council had asked the Planner to inform the Council on what
characteristics of the site make it different from any other
open space, differences which would necessitate a change from
single family to PUD. He stated that he could favorably con-
sider the PUD if adjoining property owners were not objecting
to the proposal, and if there were some overriding reasons
presented on why the site should be developed under a PUD
rather than as single family. He stated that there are objec-
tions that cannot be overcome.
Mr. Colon asked whether the objections are prudent and have
merit.
Mr. James Flanagan, 995 Winston Court, stated that he has read
the Planner's report and felt that he and the other adjoining
property owners who object to the PUD should have been contacted
for information on their objections during the report pre-
paration process. He stated that when he built his home, he
was told that his deed restricted him from constructing a two-
story home so that his home would not obstruct views. He felt
that the report was one-sided in favor of those who support
the PUD concept.
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Councilman Losleben pointed out that the Planning Commission
had unanimously recommended denial of the application. Mayor
Lockwood noted that the subject property is bounded on three
sides by single family development and by TH 13 on the other
side. He pointed out that the Planner, in his report, rendered
the opinion that the property can be developed as single family.
He also pointed out that there are no over-riding reasons why the
property should be developed any differently than the area
surrounding it.
Mayor Lockwood moved the adoption of Resolution No. 81-05,
"RESOLUTION DENYING FEDERAL LAND COMPANY APPLICATION FOR P.U.D."
Councilman Hartmann seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
WATER TANK The Council acknowledged a letter and sketches from Mr. Dean
MODIFICATION Bach, of Pittsburgh-Des Moines Steel Company, and a memo
from City Planner Dahlgren regarding modification in the City's
water tank to reduce the effect of the wrinkling in the_tank.
Mr. Bach was present, and explained that the proposal in the
sketches shows approximately 100 channel-type vertical flutes
installed on the top of the tank, 3 feet 2 inches from center to
center. He stated that his firm would repaint around the
channels, inside and outside of the tank. He pointed out that
it would be necessary to drain the tank during the installation
process, and acknowledged that PDM would pay for the cost of
the wasted water. Mr. Bach stated that the Planner's sugges-
tion that the identification letters be mounted four inches away
from the surface of the flutes might present a problem from a
maintenance (painting) standpoint.
Mr. Bach pointed out that the addition of the flutes will_not
damage the tank in any way structurally. He also stated that
his company will take all steps possible to minimize the time
the tank is out of service.
After additional discussion and questions from the Council,
Councilman Hartmann moved to approve the corrective action
based on the City Planner's recommendation.
Mayor Lockwood seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Administrator Johnson advised the Council that the City has
retained approximately $130,000 from the total water tank
contract amount. He pointed out that PDM estimates that the
corrective work will cost approximately $15,000, and recommend-
ed that the Council approve release of a portion of the contract
retainage.
Councilman Losleben moved to approve release of $95,000 of
the water tank construction retainage to Pittsburgh-Des Moines
Steel Company.
Councilwoman Witt seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
IVY FALLS FIRST
ADDITION
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Mayor Lockwood reported to the Council on the informal dis-
cussion on proposed Ivy Falls street and drainage improvements
held earlier in the evening. He stated that approximately
twenty people were present for the discussion and called on
Mr. Shelvin Keiffer, a spokesman for the group, to express the
concensus of the property owners.
Mr. Keiffer stated that it was the opinion of the residents
that nothing should be done. The conclusion he reached from
the discussion was that if the City would desire to specially
assess the area for extra maintenance of streets, it would be
acceptable to the neighborhood.
The Council agreed that if the residents do not want any
improvements, none would be ordered at this time. It was
acknowledged that the City has only limited maintenance money,
and street maintenance would be limited to patching of
potholes.
COMMISSION The Council acknowledged receipt of a letter from Mr. Richard
APPOINTMENTS Abraham, in which Mr. Abraham expressed his interest in appoint-
ment to the Park and Recreation Commission.
APPROVAL OF Councilman Losleben moved approval of the minutes of the
MINUTES December 16th Council meeting
Mayor Lockwood seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Councilman Losleben moved approval of the minutes of the
January 6th Council meeting.
Councilwoman Witt seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
DEPARTMENT The Council acknowledged receipt of the Fire and Code Enforce-
REPORTS ment Officer monthly reports for December, and the Police
Department monthly report for November.
COMMUNICATIONS The Council acknowledged receipt of the December issue of
Metropolitan 911 News.
LABOR AGREEMENTS
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
City Administrator Johnson advised the Council on the details
of negotiations on both the Police and Public Works Department
labor agreements. He recommended that the Council approve the
agreements as negotiated.
Councilman Losleben moved that the Mayor and City Clerk be auth-
orized to execute the 1981-1982 Public Works Department labor
agreement as negotiated by the City Administrator.
Councilwoman Witt seconded the motion.
Councilman Hartmann moved that the Mayor and City Clerk be
authorized to execute the 1981-82 Police Department labor
agreement as negotiated by the City Administrator.
Mayor Lockwood seconded the motion.
FIRE DEPARTMENT
MISCELLANEOUS
LIST OF CLAIMS
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
LICENSES
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
ADJOURN
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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The Council acknowledged receipt of a handout memo from the
City Administrator outlining Volunteer Fire Chief and Assis-
tant Chief compensation from various communities.
Councilman Mertensotto reported on the attendance at a recent
Capitol City Regional fire meeting. He advised that as part
of his conversation with Wilfred Dehrer, the question of filing
of Relief Association By-laws arose. He stated that he was
advised that the By-laws amendment adopted by the Fire Depart-
ment has been filed and that he reminded Mr. Dehrer that the
amendment approved by the Department was not approved by the
Council and therefore would have no validity.
Councilwoman Witt advised the Council that she will be out
of town on the evening of the next regular Council meeting.
The Council acknowledged receipt of the Treasurer's report
for December, 1980.
Mayor Lockwood moved approval of the List of Claims dated
January 15, 1981, and totalling $464,602.32.
Councilman Losleben seconded the motion.
Councilman Hartmann moved approval of the list of licenses,
granting licenses to:
Ace Blacktop, Inc. Asphalt/Concrete Paving
Mendota Heights Cherokee Cigarette
Mendota Heights Country Boy Cigarette
Somerset Country Club Cigarette
Berghorst Plumbing & Htg. Excavating
Dependable Excavating Co., Inc. Excavating
Genz-Ryan Plumbing & Htg. Gas Piping
Neil & Hubbard Heating & Air Cond. Gas Piping
Northeast Sheet Metal, Inc. Gas Piping
Daco, Inc.
J & D Builders, Inc.
Rauenhorst Corp.
Valley Investments
Genz-Ryan Plumbing & Htg.
Horwitz, Inc.
Northeast Sheet Metal, Inc.
City Cleah Up
Emil Oehrlein, Trucking
General Contracting
General Contracting
General Contracting
General Contracting
Heating & Air Conditioning
Heating & Air Conditioning
Heating & Air Conditioning
Rubbish Hauling
Rubbish Hauling
Councilwoman Witt seconded the motion.
There being no further business to come before the Council,
Councilman Losleben moved that the meeting be adjourned.
Councilman Mertensotto seconded the motion.
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TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 10:25 o'clock P.M.
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City Clerk
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Robert G. Lockwood
Mayor