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1985-01-29 Joint Council-Planning-Park Comm minutesPage No. 2201 January 29, 1985 CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS DAKOTA COUNTY STATE OF MINNESOTA Minutes of the Joint Workshop Meeting Held Tuesday, January 29, 1985 _Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the joint workshop meeting of the the City ( )ouncil, Task Force, Planning Commission and Park and Recreation Commission, was held at 7:30 o'clock P.M., at City Hall, 750 South Plaza Drive, Mendota Heights, Minnesota. Mayor Lockwood called the meeting to order at 7:40 o'clock P.M. The following members were present: Mayor Lockwood, Councilmembers Blesener, Cummins, Hartmann and Witt. The following members of the Task Force were present: Blesener, Burke, McMonigal, Shepard, Brenner, Roszak and Cummins. Kevin Howe was absent and Gus Hipp sat in for Fred Lambrecht. Planning Commissioners present included Stefani, Kruse, Henning, Morson and Park Commission member Schneeman. PRELIMINARY REMARKS BY KEVIN FRAZELL, CITY ADMINISTRATOR AND EX- OFFICIO CHAIR OF TASK FORCE PROJECT BACKGROUND AND TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS, PLANNER DAHLGREN Administrator Frazell summarized the six months of work that had been done by the Task Force in arriving at the recommendation. He indicated that although the Task Force had not been able to come to complete unanimity on all of the recommendations, the report, nonetheless, was a valuable document in setting forth the pros and cons of the issues of development in the 110/149 area. Planner Dahlgren presented a brief history of planning efforts in the area, beginning with the platting of the Friendly Hills subdivision and Mn/DOT plans for the 149 roadway in the mid-50's. He also talked about construction of the Mendota Plaza Shopping Center, the proposed Mendakota redevelopment, and trafficway concerns in the area. Planner Dahlgren concluded by presenting the 13 recommendations of the Task Force: 1. Highway 149 (Dodd Road) should remain on its existing alignment. 2. South Plaza Drive should be extended north across Highway 110 as a local access road, including a pedestrian and bicycle trail. This would not be an interchange with Highway 110, but a grade separated crossing, given an acceptable financing plan. 3. Safety improvements to the Highway 110/Highway 149 intersection should be pursued with Mn/DOT. The Task Force recommends raising the entire intersection to reduce the grades coming into the intersection. This would have the added benefit of allowing South Plaza Drive to be extended as an underpass at 110, improving the visibility of the Central Commercial Area and the accessibility of Page No. 2202 January 29, 1985 the South Plaza Drive extension. 4. Right-of-way for Highway 149 should be expanded from its current 66 feet to 100 feet by dedication and acquisition, from Decorah Lane on the south to the terminus of extended South Plaza Drive on the north. 5. Mn/DOT should release the lands held in the reserved right-of-way for Highway 149, with the City to acquire fee title to that portion south of the north property line of the Friendly Hills plat for permanent open space and bike trail. 6. No land should be held or acquired by Mn/DOT for a future interchange at the 110/149 intersection. 7. For any future development in the abandoned right-of- way along the South Plaza Drive extension, the land use should be commercial west of the road, and residential east of it. This would apply both north of Highway 110 to Freeway Road, and south of Highway 110. 8. The Council should respond favorably to proposals set before them which will increase the scope and quality of commercial uses in the presently zoned business area, so as to serve as a desirable and viable focal point for community services. 9. The City code should be amended to establish a Business PUD Zoning District. The Task Force further recommends that the Council respond favorably to a proposal for a quality commercial development on the northeast corner of the Mendakota Country Club land under this new zoning classification. This will not only add a quality development to the area, but will help keep the golf course in the community. 10. The feasibility of establishing a tax increment financing district, to finance public improvements in the area, should be analyzed. Tax increment funds, together with funding from other sources, should be used to finance the extension of South Plaza Drive and its crossing of Highway 110, and other public improvements in the area. 11. The City should coordinate with Dodge Nature Preserve on the use of the northwest corner of the Center, abutting the extension of South Plaza Drive, in a manner consistent with their interests and those of the City. 12. Encourage the upgrading and expansion of the Mendota Plaza Shopping Center. Page No. 2203 January 29, 1985 13. The old fire station and contiguous commercial deve- lopments to the south should be redeveloped for a use consistent with the surrounding residential areas, utili- zing tax increment financing. Planner Dahlgren concluded by saying that he thought it was important that some type of plan, whatever its specifics, be adopted for the area. The Mayor then opened the meeting for discussion and questions. Councilwoman Witt asked about traffic counts on 35E and 149, to which Planner Dahlgren responded that he was unaware of any recent studies by Mn/DOT. Councilmember Witt said that she agreed with Councilmember Blesener about not designating a specific use for the 149 easement that would be released as part of the plan. Mr. Jim Wenker, a representative of Howard Bergerud Associates, developer of the proposed shopping center, gave a brief discussion of their ideas for development. Mr. Wenker said that their group had done several shopping areas in Minnesota, including Park Square Court in St. Paul, two of the buildings at Victoria Crossing, Hill Plaza in St. Paul, and the Riverside Mall in Rochester. He indicated that they were also working on con-version of some flour mills on the riverfront in Minneapolis to commercial and residential uses. He said that their area of expertise is in the "specialty retail" portion of the market. For the Mendakota site, Mr. Wenker said that no specific plans had been drawn up. However, in general they envisioned a one or two story building of 50,000 to 100,000 square feet, with 12 to 20 tenants, and probably a couple of restaurants. He said that he felt they were targeting at a market that is not fulfilled either by large regional malls such as Burnsville Center, or a smaller strip center, such as Southview Square. Councilmember Cummins raised a question about the timing of the development on the Mendakota property. Mendakota representative Brenner responded that the 10 to 11 acres of commercial development would not be released until Mendakota had been able to rebuild and restructure the golf course, and demolish the old club house and replace it with a new one. He indicated that development of the housing on the Perkegwin land and the club house would have to get the first approval from the City before any commercial land would be released, and at the very earliest, mid 1986 would be the groundbreaking for a commercial center. Page No. 2204 January 29, 1985 Mr. Brenner went on to add that the club was asking Bergerud Associates to put up a letter of credit, contingent upon favorable Council action on their proposal, to ensure that they would be around when it was time for the commercial development. Mr. Wenker responded that they would be ready to proceed with their committments whenever the City gave its approval. Park Commissioner Mary Jeanne Schneeman indicated that while she had originally been skeptical about this type of shopping center in Mendota Heights, she was now convinced that the community could use something of this quality. Planning Commission Chairperson Cameron Kruse said that he generally liked the plan, but felt that there were a lot of "ifs" in it, and that those would have to be cleared and tightened up as we proceeded. He also indicated that he did not like the idea of placing the City Hall on such expensive land, but would prefer that that land be used for some tax generating purpose. He also said that he thought it was important that we have a strong professional opinion on the market viability of any new commercial center. Task Force member John Roszak discussed the reasons for his objection to task force recommendation No. 9, on rezoning the Mendakota property. He said that he thought that the recommendation was that the Council should look favorably upon a proposal for this development, and that he thought it was very important that the data supporting that recommendation and Council decision be available. Therefore, he said that he had objected to making the recommendation. Task Force member Lou Brenner responded that he thought the purpose of the Task Force was not to tell the Council specifically how to vote on rezoning, but to provide a general comprehensive plan for the area from which the Council could react. He also pointed out that in the Task Force deliberations, it was understood that much of the money to build the extended South Plaza Drive would come from the tax increment district generated by the additional development, and that the road is something the City really wants. He added that the developers are not asking for any public subsidy of their private investment. City Planner Howard Dahlgren gave a brief presentation on the concept of a Business Planned Unit Development zoning concept. It was indicated that this could be used as an alternative to simply rezoning the property to some existing zoning classification in the City code, to provide the City with a much higher level of control over Page No. 2205 January 29, 1985 the type and quality of development that could be placed on the property. Mr. Dahlgren indicated that the only "right" the landowner would have would be to develop something consistent with the precise PUD that had been approved for the site, rather than just meeting the general code requirements for a business zoned district. Mayor Lockwood said that he thought the Councils number one priority ought to be how we finance a separated road crossing, since this had been a concern to the community for a long time. Planning Commissioner Morson said that he thought the extended South Plaza Drive would become a heavily used alternative to going through the 110/149 intersection, and that it should therefore be designed very carefully, particularly the turn off Dodd Road. Task Force alternate Gus Hipp said that he also was concerned about the amount of traffic that would be coming into the area to support the shopping centers. Councilmember Cummins said that he thought we needed a good analysis of traffic at the South Plaza Drive/149 area, so that we weren't simply moving a hazardous traffic situation from 110/149 a block to the south. City Planner Dahlgren responded that "T" intersections are the safest kind. A typical cross intersection has 16 possible points of car collision, whereas a "T" intersection has only 3. Mr. Dahlgren indicated that frequently "T" intersections don't even have traffic lights, although if the area meets the "warrants", the City could petition Mn/DOT for installation of traffic signals. Planner Dahlgren went on to say that the amount of commercial development proposed in the Task Force report is relatively small, compared to the size of the community and the potential market. He also said that he thought that heavy use of the new South Plaza Drive "crossover" would simply mean that it was serving its purpose, and he was not concerned that a significant traffic problem would be created. Planning Commission Chairperson Kruse indicated that projections show the population of Mendota Heights will increase by about 60% before the community reaches saturation, which will create more traffic. He said therefore, it was unrealistic to feel that we could maintain our rather low traffic levels, and we are going to have to face that issue anyway. Page No. 2206 January 29, 1985 Task Force member Brenner said that Mn/DOT took population and traffic projection figures into account in deciding not to build a relocated 149 on the easterly alignment. He said that obviously if the main concern was traffic safety, that would have been the best place for the roadway, but Mn/DOT did not feel that was justified. Mayor Lockwood said that he did not think the Council needed to take any formal action this evening, but it was important to think of follow-up actions to be taken. Councilmember Cummins agreed that the Planning Commission, Council and others should begin analyzing the report. Mendakota representative Brenner said that while they realized the plans would have to receive more of a hearing, they would like some feeling for the position of the City on considering this development. Mayor Lockwood asked if the Planning Commission and Planning Consultant Howard Dahlgren could come up with a series of objectives to be accomplished, along with some timing, to which the Council could react. He also suggested that the Council officially receive both the Task Force Report, and the Minority Report which had been submitted at its next meeting. Planner Dahlgren responded that there are several specific steps that the City could take in considering whether to implement the plan, and that they could outline those procedures. It was agreed that that should be completed, and come back before the Council for its consideration at a subsequent meeting. It was also agreed that the upcoming issue of the City newsletter should include some coverage on the Planning effort. ADJOURN The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 o'c ock P.M. 40- Kevin D. Frazell City Administrator ( ATTEST: dzk Robert. Lockwood Mayor