1988-05-17 Council minutesPage No. 2328
May 17, 1988
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, May 17, 1988
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the
City Council, City of Mendota Heights, was held at 7:30 o'clock
P.M. at City Hall, 750 South Plaza Drive, Mendota Heights,
Minnesota.
Mayor Mertensotto called the meeting to order at 7:30 o'clock P.M.
The following members were present: Mayor Mertensotto,
Councilmembers Blesener, Cummins, Hartmann and Witt.
AGENDA ADOPTION
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CONSENT CALENDAR
Councilmember Hartmann moved adoption of
the revised agenda for the meeting as
amended to move items 9b and 9c to the
consent calendar.
Councilmember Blesener seconded the motion.
Councilmember Witt moved approval of the
minutes of the April 19th meeting.
Councilmember Cummins seconded the motion.
Councilmember Blesener
the minutes of the May
corrections.
Councilmember Hartmann
moved approval of
10th meeting with
seconded the motion.
Councilmember Hartmann moved approval of
the consent calendar, along with
authorization for execution of all
necessary documents contained therein.
a. Acknowledgment of the Fire Department
monthly report for April.
b. Acknowledgment of a letter from Mn /DOT
regarding traffic signals at T.H.
13/55.
c. Approval of the list of contractor
licenses dated May 17, 1988 and
attached hereto.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
PUBLIC COMMENTS
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d. Approval of the List of Claims dated
May 17, 1988 and totaling $301,184.94.
e. Approval of a request from TKDA dated
May 9th for authorization to expand the
Contel parking lot by 30 parking
spaces.
f. Acknowledgment of a letter from F.M.
Frattalone Company agreeing to extend
their bid for Mendota Heights Road
improvements through July 5th.
Councilmember Cummins seconded the motion.
Mr. Frank Fabio was present regarding the
moving of a home from Hunter Lane. Mr.
Fabio stated that Mr. Cochrane sold him the
home and has given him until July 1st to
move the structure from the Cochrane lot,
but that the Building Inspector has
suggested that he get Council approval to
delay the moving. Mr. Fabio stated that he
hasn't sold the structure yet and has no
place to move it to.
Administrator Frazell gave the Council a
brief background on the issue and
recommended that the matter be handled
administratively.
The Council directed that Mr. Fabio work
with staff on the matter.
Mrs. Rita Joseph, 1915 Walsh Lane, stated
that she has been a resident of Mendota
Heights since 1956 and had to do all of her
shopping in West St. Paul until the Mendota
Plaza was built. She stated that she likes
doing business in Mendota Heights and that
she hopes the Council will approve the
renovation planned for the Center.
Mr. Virgil McQuay, 976 Kay, was present
regarding development at Marie and
Victoria. He stated that sight access at
the intersection is unsafe because of the
grading at the northeast corner of the
intersection. He also stated that there
are trees and brush in the ditch which
cause poor visibility at the intersection
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May 17, 1988
and asked that something be done to resolve
the problems.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council has
asked the County to authorize four -way stop
signs at the intersection but that the
County has denied the request because the
intersection does not meet the County's
warrants.
Councilmember Blesener asked the Public
Works Director to be sure that the grade is
reduced on the northwest quadrant and to
see that the trees and brush are removed
from the right -of -way on the east side of
Victoria.
Mr. Joe Maeghre was present regarding
aircraft noise over the Lexington- Highlands
area of the City. He stated that he
understands the air corridor issue will be
on the MASAC agenda in late June and
expressed his frustration that the matter
has been delayed so long and there has been
no relief from the noise. He asked how
long it will take before there is any
relief.
City Treasurer Shaughnessy stated that the
City's MASAC representative, Bernie Friel,
had asked that the issue be delayed until
the MASAC June meeting because he would be
out of town for the May meeting.
Councilmember Blesener stated that the
Council has adopted a resolution stating
the City's position on the matter and that
the City of Eagan has also adopted a
resolution, and that both resolutions must
be presented to MASAC so that the
differences between the communities can be
resolved.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the Council
is as frustrated over the issue as is Mr.
Maeghre and that the Council's position on
the matter is clear but that Council has no
jurisdiction in the matter.
Administrator Frazell stated that MASAC
will consider the resolutions of both
communities in June, but that even if a
decision is made at the meeting, it doesn't
mean that the planes will change patterns
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right away: the issue must still be
) considered by MAC and the FAA. Mr. Frazell
stated that the bottom line is that
possibly nothing significant will happen
this year and that the City will be
fortunate if changes are made before next
spring.
HEARING: CASE NO. 88- Mayor Mertensotto opened the meeting for
09, COPPERFIELD FOURTH the purpose of a public hearing on an app-
ADDITION REZONING lication from Copperfield Associates for
the rezoning of the Weed property from R-la
to R-1, along with consideration of a
preliminary plat for the proposed
Copperfield 4th Addition.
Mr. Dick Putnam, from Copperfield
Associates, stated that the Weed property,
9.3 acres of land south of the Montgomery
Addition and on the west side of Delaware
Avenue, is the final phase of the
Copperfield development. Mr. Putnam
reviewed the proposed plat, stating that
there are 17 proposed lots ranging from
15,000 to over 30,000 square feet in size
and that it is proposed that Stone Road in
Copperfield and Fieldstone Drive in
Copperfield III be connected with a long
loop street through the proposed new plat.
No access to Delaware is planned. Mr.
Putnam informed Council that the same
restrictions and covenants placed on the
other Copperfield plats will be placed on
Copperfield 4 and that the proposed plat is
really a continuation of phases 1 and 2 of
Copperfield.
Mr. Putnam informed Council that members of
the audience at the Planning Commission
hearing expressed concern over traffic into
their neighborhoods because of the loop
street. He stated that he felt that if
cul-de-sacs were used, they would be too
long, and the possible access points to
Delaware would be at bad spots in the road.
A second concern of the audience, Mr.
Putnam stated, was over the existing trees
on the site. He stated that one of the
things that makes the site unique and
different from the balance of Copperfield
is the fact that there are some very nice
mature trees on the site, particularly
along the north border and near the
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existing Weed homestead and on the west
side. Mr. Putnam pointed out that the
reason the plat is configured as it is is
to protect the major trees. He informed
Council that he will remodel the Weed home
and upgrade it, partly because it is a nice
home and partly because he does not want to
remove the house for fear some of the large
maples next to the home would be destroyed.
With regard to density, Mr. Putnam stated
that Phase 4 provides larger lot sizes than
any of the other Copperfield phases, and
that in preparing the plat he has tried to
be sensitive to the sizes of the lots
adjacent to this proposed plat.
Mayor Mertensotto expressed objection to
the proposed street, stating that it would
be a nightmare for snowplowing and an
obstacle course for residents.
Councilmember Blesener felt that it is a
very good street design for a residential
neighborhood, designed for the people who
will live in the plat. She also asked
whether the six points contained in the
April 20th report from the Public Works
Director had been addressed.
Mr. Putnam responded that the six points
were incorporated into the Planning
Commission recommendation and can be
incorporated into the final plat. He
stated that he will comply with all six
points.
Mayor Mertensotto asked for questions and
comments from the audience.
Mr. Stuart Siebell stated that he is
concerned over the density (17 lots is too
high), feeling that there is the
possibility that it could look like a tract
development and that the minimum 18,500 lot
size should be larger. He further
expressed concern that traffic from the
seventeen additional homes will impact
Highpoint, Stone and Copperfield Drives,
which will be the major routes to the
development. He stated that he bought Lot
5 in Copperfield I because it was on a cul-
de-sac which went nowhere. He felt that if
the plat is approved there should at least
be a controlled speed to protect
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neighborhood children. He pointed out that
170 additional trips through the
neighborhood could be avoided if access to
the proposed plat were from Delaware only.
Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that Council
has no statutory authority to reduce speeds
to under 30 miles per hour
Mr. Chuck Gilbertson, owner of Lot 5 of the
Montgomery Addition, stated that there are
drivers on Huber who observe a 35 mile per
hour minimum. He stated that much of the
traffic goes by at 50 miles per hour, that
the speed is very dangerous and there does
not seem to be any control. Mr. Gilbertson
felt that stop signs should be installed on
Huber.
Councilmember Cummins pointed out that the
Police Department set up speed traps on
Huber at Council's request last year and
perhaps should do so again.
Council discussed the advisability of
installing stop signs on Huber and speed
limit reductions.
Mrs. Virginia Dwyer, 558 Stone Road, stated
that the real problem right now is from
construction traffic and that the average
speed at 5:00 is at least 40 miles per hour
-possibly 50 mph on Huber. She felt that
enforcing the speed limit and letting the
construction traffic know that the speed is
being enforced is important. Mrs. Dwyer
felt that there should be a stop sign at
Huber and Highpoint and at Stone Road and
Highpoint. She felt that there should be
some additional traffic control at least
during construction.
Councilmember Blesener felt that Council
should pursue a temporary construction
access to those lots from Delaware but that
she would not want to see permanent access
from Delaware.
Mr. Putnam responded that there is an
existing driveway to the Weed home from
Delaware but that it is not of a size to
accommodate construction vehicles. He also
pointed out that while Mr. Siebell has
stated there will be 170 additional trips
from the plat daily, even if there were to
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be 170 people coming out of the
development, not all of the traffic would
be going down to Highpoint - people will go
in all directions from the plat. He
pointed out that there are 178 lots in the
total project and that 17 lots is not going
to have a significant affect on traffic.
He stated that he has talked to the people
on Stone Road and they are not interested
in a main entrance to Copperfield coming
from Delaware at the Weed property. He
further pointed out that neither Stone or
Fieldstone was intended to be a cul-de-sac.
Mrs. Kay Handford, 2244 Highpoint, stated
that the traffic issue goes back to the
density issue. She stated that residents
are also concerned about the preservation
of the trees: this is the only remaining
wooded area in the Copperfield area. Mrs.
Handford stated that only 10 trees are
identified on the plat but there are over
200 trees over 28 inches in diameter. She
asked how many of the trees will be
retained.
Mr. Putnam responded that the area where
most of the major trees are is on the north
property lines and that no grading will be
done in that area. He stated that people
will work their homes around the trees,
pointing out that the buyers will want to
retain the trees. He reviewed drawings
which showed where grading will occur and
pointed out that he has already moved many
of the trees which would be lost in grading
the balance of the plat.
Mayor Mertensotto asked why the streets
couldn't be cul-de-sacs -- bring a street
in from Delaware ending in a cul-de-sac.
Councilmember Blesener stated that the land
has been platted around and felt that this
is what Council has expected to see all
along for the Weed property. She stated
that she appreciates the concerns about
traffic, has no objection to placing stop
signs on neighborhood streets and felt that
the City should look at the possibility of
stop signs on Huber. She felt that the
proposed plat is consistent with the rest
of the Copperfield area in terms of lot
sizes, roads, and design.
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Mr. Putnam pointed out that he would have
to do a great deal of grading to provide an
access point at Delaware at the existing
driveway and would have to do considerable
filling.
Councilmember Biesener stated that if this
would occur, it would cause the elimination
of many of the large trees and Fieldstone
Drive would then also become a through
street which would be very unfair to the
property owners on Fieldstone.
Public Works Director Daneilson pointed out
that Delaware is a County road and that he
is not sure that the County would give the
City permission for an access.
Mrs. Dwyer suggested that the residents
would be very happy if Mr. Putnam would
just remove two lots. She noted that 6 or
7 lots could be developed under the
existing zoning.
Mr. Chuck Gilbertson, 542 Huber Drive,
stated that he appreciated Mr. Putnam
listening to his concerns in the first
phase of Copperfield because he did make a
transition in the lot sizes and that he
appreciates the transition being made in
this proposal. He stated that he does have
some concern about the transition from the
large Montgomery Addition lots to the
smaller lots proposed here and the loss of
trees. He felt that the proposed density
is too high and that although Mr. Putnam
has made some allowances in the northeast
corner he would like to see lower density
with larger lots on the west side of the
plat.
Councilmember Cummins stated that Mr.
Putnam has done a very good job in
Copperfield but that in his opinion, two
things could have been done better: the
homes are too close together in many parts
of Copperfield because of the 10 foot
setbacks; and, the 30 foot front yard
setback appears inadequate. He felt that
Planner Dahlgren's suggestion that one lot
be removed from each of the properties east
and west of the Weed home would be both
pleasing to the residents and would result
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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May 17, 1988
in an even better looking plat.
Councilmember Witt agreed, stating that the
transition in lot sizes would be better as
well.
Planning Commission member Ultan Duggan
stated that he voted against the proposed
plat because he felt the six or seven lots
which would be allowed under existing
zoning would be better. He stated that the
developer is asking the City to reduce the
density from 40,000 to 15,000 square foot
lots and the City has a chance to say no to
the proposal. He felt that if the number
of lots were reduced, the plat would look
better.
There being no further questions or
comments, Councilmember Cummins moved that
the hearing be closed at 9:28 P.M.
Councilmember Hartmann seconded the motion.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he feels the
street design is poor, that the lot
frontages are too narrow, and that on these
bases and the public comments, he is not in
favor of the proposal.
Councilmember Cummins stated that he feels
the concept is good and that any connection
to Delaware would result in significant
problems for the Copperfield area. He felt
that the transition from the Montgomery
Addition could be more appealing if the
developer were asked to provide minimum
18,500 square foot lots with a minimum of
100 foot frontages and 130 foot depths, and
setbacks of 35 foot front and rear yards
and 15 foot sideyards.
Councilmember Witt stated that she is
concerned about the variances that have
been requested in Copperfield and about the
front footages and felt that Council has an
opportunity to make this a transition area
and lower the density.
Councilmember Blesener agreed with
Councilmember Cummins' comments but felt
that the lots are decent size although she
felt that Council should try to come up
with a compromise. She felt that it is a
very good plat and that if what it will
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 88-13,
PASTER ENTERPRISES
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take to arrive at a compromise is to move
some lot lines, Mr. Putnam should be given
the opportunity to think about making some
changes before Council takes action on the
plat.
Mr. Putnam asked Council to give him some
standards. He stated that he has submitted
a preliminary plat with lots much larger
than the other Copperfield Additions. He
also asked whether Council would mind if
the plat did not connect with Copperfield.
Councilmember Blesener stated that it would
make no sense not to connect the plats.
Councilmember Hartmann stated that the
Copperfield development was designed with
the intent that this land also would be
developed, and that is the reason for the
street configuration in Copperfield. He
agreed with the City Planner's remarks
about reduction in lots.
Councilmember Blesener asked whether
increasing the lot sizes to 18,500 but
still maintaining 17 lots would be
agreeable with the Council.
Councilmember Cummins noted that Mr. Putnam
has been very accommodating of all the
requests Council has made of him and that
Councilmember Blesener's suggestion would
make sense and would meet the standards on
lot sizes and setbacks he had suggested.
After discussion, Councilmember Cummins
moved to table a decision on the rezoning
and preliminary plat to the June 7th
meeting.
Councilmember Witt seconded the motion.
Council asked Mr. Putnam to consider
reducing the number of lots in the proposed
plat as suggested in the Planner's report,
and to design the plat so that all lots
maintain a minimum 100 foot frontage.
Mayor Mertensotto informed the audience
that discussion on the Paster Enterprises
application for conditional use permit to
allow a liquor store in the Mendota Plaza
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had been continued from the May 10th
meeting.
City Attorney Tom Hart informed Council
that he has met with Paster Enterprises and
reviewed the proposed developer's
agreement. He reviewed recommended changes
in the developer's agreement.
Councilmember Cummins asked Mr. Paster for
clarification on estimated remodeling costs
and exterior colors, asking whether the
$125,000 estimate was what is proposed for
all of Phase 1.
Mr. Paster stated that he is working
strictly with architects and they would
have to be present to discuss colors. With
regard to costs, he stated that $125,000
will not dress up the center and he has no
idea of what the costs will be until the
architects finish the plans.
Councilmember Cummins stated that he wants
to make sure the City gets assurances that
it will get the quality renovation Paster
Enterprises talked about at the last
meeting, including assurances that Council
will maintain control over types of
materials, etc.
Councilmember Biesener asked Attorney Hart
how the application must be processed, as a
new PUD or as a conditional use permit.
Mr. Hart stated that if only the renovation
of the existing facility is addressed, the
PUD process is not required, but if Paster
Enterprises wishes to have Council
consideration of the total package
including Phase 2, the PUD process would
apply. Responding to a question from
Councilmember Cummins, Mr. Hart stated that
the Council can require the right of
specific performance in the developers
agreement and that the agreement
incorporates the representations as to
architectural details that have been made
by the applicant.
Councilmember Biesener expressed concern
that the agreement doesn't allow Council
any latitude in design and that Council
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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doesn't know what it is buying since it has
not seen any formal plans.
Mr. Frisch stated that Mr. Paster wants to
get started on the project and will not do
anything that will have adverse effects -
he wants to do something that will work for
the shopping center. He noted that the
Council is being more restrictive than
Paster Enterprises has experienced in other
areas. Mr. Frisch stated that Paster will
lose a major tenant (MGM Liquor) unless the
conditional use permit is granted and if
the tenant is lost there would not be
sufficient financing to do the renovation.
Councilmember Cummins stated the Paster
renovation of the Sibley Plaza and Doddway
centers was very appropriate for those
areas, but that neither of those designs
would be appropriate for the Mendota Plaza
as Council envisions the City's downtown
area.
Mr. Paster, responding to a request for
clarification on what renovation Snyders
will receive, stated that he is working
with Snyders on upgrading the interior, and
that the exterior will not be upgraded at
this time.
There was discussion and agreement over the
agreement changes recommended by Attorney
Hart.
Councilmember Cummins asked what signage is
planned for MGM Liquors, and felt that
using the word "warehouse" in the store
name would present an inappropriate image
for the shopping center. Mr. Rick Bowie
responded that he would discuss the subject
with MGM but that it might not prove to be
possible to change the name from MGM Liquor
Warehouse.
Councilmember Biesener moved adoption of
Resolution No. 88-27, "RESOLUTION APPROVING
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR LIQUOR STORE IN
MENDOTA PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER."
Councilmember Hartmann seconded the motion.
Councilmember Biesener moved to authorize
the Mayor and City Clerk to execute the
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CAR WASH
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developer's agreement with Paster
Enterprises as amended to incorporate the
City Attorney's changes and Council
discussion this evening.
Councilmember Cummins seconded the motion.
The Council acknowledged a memo from the
Public Works Director relative to Council
discussion continued from May 10th on a
request from Mr. Brian Birch to allow
construction of a car wash at Dodd Road and
Highway 110, along with a letter from Mr.
Brian Birch.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Mr. Brich has
disagreed with the staff interpretation
over whether a car wash is an allowed use
for the property. He stated that the
question is whether Council wishes to
consider amending the B-2 District to allow
car washes or whether Council would
consider rezoning the property to B-4.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the potential
for amending the B-2 uses is doubtful since
there is so much B-2 zoning and rezoning to
B-4 would be precedent setting. He stated
that he likes the idea of structuring the
use within a shopping center rather than
allowing free-standing car washes, and that
it is hard for him to conceive of a car
wash with an office building above as Mr.
Birch proposes.
Mr. Birch stated that there are several
similar facilities in the Twin Cities.
Councilmember Biesener pointed out that B-2
is a neighborhood business district and
that she does not feel a car wash is a
permitted use. She stated that the list of
permitted uses in the district specifically
exclude drive-in facilities and that she
personally is not interested in adding a
car wash use to B-2 uses or in rezoning the
property to B-3 or B-4.
Councilmember Cummins stated that since Mr.
Birch is looking for informal consensus, he
agrees with Councilmember Biesener, and is
not interested in either rezoning to B-4 or
in making car washes an allowed use in B-2
since they are specifically permitted in
TELEPHONE SYSTEM
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May 17, 1988
another district. Councilmember Hartmann
agreed.
Mr. Birch informed Council that he has
asked people in the area and they approve
of his proposal. He submitted a petition
signed by area property owners.
Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that Mr.
Birch has not made official application to
the Council and is asking only for informal
consensus on whether Council would consider
upzoning and that consensus appears to be
no. He suggested that Mr. Birch apply for
zoning amendment or rezoning and go through
the formal process if he wishes to have a
formal decision from Council.
Mr. Birch stated that he is not asking for
rezoning but rather for building approval
since he feels the car wash is a permitted
use in the B-2 district.
Councilmember Cummins stated that if Mr.
Birch makes application for building permit
Council will review it and give him a
formal decision as to whether under B-2 the
proposed use is a use deemed similar by
Council to uses allowed in the district.
Attorney Hart stated that there are in his
opinion practical differences that render
it not similar in use for purposes of the
zoning ordinance.
Mr. Bill Burke, the City's telephone system
consultant, was present to review the
proposed specifications for a telephone
system for new City Hall.
After brief discussion, Councilmember
Cummins moved to approve the telephone
system bid specifications for new City Hall
along with authorization to advertise for
bids to be received June 21st.
Councilmember Hartmann seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
STREET LIGHT
Council acknowledged and discussed a memo
from Public Works Director Danielson
regarding a request from Tim Curley for a
street light at the City's bike trail
located at Lexington and T.H. 110 because
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of his concern that the trail is too dark
and dangerous at night.
Councilmember Blesener stated that her
concern is that the whole frontage of the
SOS/Curley property on Lexington should not
be driveway. She felt that the driveway
should be chained off so that there is
clear definition of the driveway and
bikeway and that installing lighting is not
a solution to the problem. She also felt
that there should be some obstructions to
prevent cycles from using the bike path.
Mr. Curley, present for the discussion,
stated that when he makes a left turn onto
Lexington after work at night, he cannot
see because the area is so dark and that he
is concerned about pedestrian safety. He
stated that he would like to have lights
installed at both ends of the trail and
informed Council that a light would cost
$6.87 per month.
Councilmember Blesener suggested that the
matter be tabled until there is a solution
for cleaning up the area and that movement
of the vehicles using SOS, the furniture
store and auto repair shop should be
controlled.
Councilmember Witt stated that she would
not object to installing a light as long as
it is only a temporary solution and that
she would like to see Councilmember
Blesener's concerns addressed. Responding
to a question from Councilmember Witt, Mr.
Curley indicated that there are no concrete
plans for redevelopment of the property at
this time.
Mayor Mertensotto suggested that a light be
installed for a year and that the need then
be re-evaluated.
Councilmember Cummins felt that Council
would be setting precedent for lighting
bike trails if the request is approved.
Councilmember Blesener stated that she does
not support the request.
Councilmember Witt moved to authorize staff
to order a light from NSP to be installed
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
COUNCIL COMMENTS
POLICE NEGOTIATIONS
ADJOURN
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
ATTEST:
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May 17, 1988
PETITION AND ORDERING PREPARATION OF
FEASIBILITY REPORT FOR BRIDGEVIEW SHORES."
Councilmember Witt seconded the motion.
Councilmember Blesener asked that hearings
be scheduled later on agendas so that
people waiting for discussion on less time
consuming, matters do not have to wait until
so late in the evening. It was the
consensus the the matter should be
discussed at the upcoming workshop.
Administrator Frazell asked for Council
direction on the City's position in labor
negotiations ith the police department.
There being no further business to come
before the Council, Councilmember Hartmann
moved that the meeting be adjourned to the
June 4th Council/Planning/Park Commission
workshop.
Councilmember Blesener seconded the motion.
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 11:25 o'clock P.M.
Kathleen M. Swanson
City Clerk
Charles E. Mertensotto
Mayor