2007-05-01 City Council minutesMay 1, 2007
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CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, May 1, 2007
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, Minnesota was held at 7:30 o'clock p.m. at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota
Heights, Minnesota.
CALL TO ORDER Mayor Huber called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. The
following members were present: Councilmembers Duggan,
Krebsbach, Schneeman and Vitelli.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Council, the audience and staff recited the Pledge of
Allegiance.
AGENDA ADOPTION Councilmember Duggan moved adoption of the agenda as
presented. Councilmember Schneeman seconded the
motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Councilmember Duggan said he would like to draw attention
to the minutes as they did not reflect some of the comments
that were made during the presentations from the
representatives of the Par 3 and Vote No committees, and
those comments made by some of the Council members.
Councilmember Duggan referred to the concept plan for
Southview Senior Living where the report showed the
condominium units measuring from 400 sq. ft to 600 sq. ft.
and said he averaged the middle five units to find they were
860 sq. ft. Councilmember Duggan said he never challenged
this at the time of the presentation, but wanted to share that
information at this time. The presentation showed the
smaller units, but there were actually some larger ones as
well.
Councilmember Duggan moved to approve the minutes of
the April 17, 2007 City Council Meeting as corrected.
Commissioner Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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Councilmember Schneeman asked where Precinct Five is
located. City Clerk Kathleen Swanson said voting for this
precinct is done at Friendly Hills Middle School.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked Ms. Swanson to review
the polling locations in relation to the precincts. Ms.
Swanson reviewed the locations and the areas that they
cover.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to approve the minutes of
the April 24, 2007 Election Canvassing Board Meeting.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CONSENT CALENDAR Councilmember Schneeman moved approval of the consent
calendar as presented, and authorization for execution of any
necessary documents contained therein.
a. Acknowledgement of the Minutes from the April 25, 2007
Planning Commission Meeting.
b. Acknowledgement of the Building Activity Report for April
2007.
c. Authorization for Reimbursement of Fall Protection System
for the Water Tower.
d. Approval of Hiring Engineering Intern.
e. Approval of Permanent Appointment of Pam Deeb.
f. Approval of Permanent Appointment of Sharon Hinze.
g. Approval of NOC Appointments.
h. Adoption of Ordinance No. 412: "AN ORDINANCE
AMENDING TITLE 3 CHAPTER 1 OF THE CITY CODE ".
I. Adoption of Resolution No. 07 -26: "RESOLUTION
ADOPTING AN INVEST MENT POLICY".
j. Approval of the List of Contractors.
k. Approval of the List of Claims.
Councilmember Duggan seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
PAR 3 BOND SALE Finance Director Kristen Schabacker asked to have this
discussion later in the evening as Mark Ruff from Ehlers and
Associates is not yet present at the meeting.
Mayor Huber said discussion on this item will be held when
Mr. Ruff is in attendance.
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CASE NO. 07 -06, JOHNSON Assistant to the City Administrator Jake Sedlacek
reviewed the case in which the applicants, Randall and Joy
Johnson, 2219 Swan Court, propose to remove cattails along
a 15 -ft. stretch of lakeshore on Rogers Lake. The reason for
this proposal is to allow the applicants to create an access for
a sailboat.
Mr. Sedlacek said because this vegetation is both above and
below water, the applicant will need approval from the DNR
before he can do any work.
Mr. Sedlacek said this case was recommended for approval
by the Planning Commission with the condition that there is
no loss of groundcover vegetation on the shore.
Councilmember Duggan said he would not want to see this
lake eventually fill in with cattails as they seem to propagate
themselves. He asked if residents will always have to go
through the DNR to remove them. Mr. Sedlacek said as long
as any of the vegetation is above water, DNR approval is
required.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if there were any other
concerns about the protection of the wetland. Mr. Sedlacek
said the applicants are not proposing any changes.
Councilmember Duggan asked for clarification of the area
that will be affected and said it makes sense to clear this area
to make way for the boat.
Councilmember Schneeman asked who is responsible for
applying to the DNR. Mr. Sedlacek said the applicant is.
Randall and Joy Johnson, applicants, explained why they
choose this section as it is the least affected area.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked how deep the lake is for
sailing. Mr. Johnson said it is about 4 to 5 feet deep.
Councilmember Schneeman asked about the catamaran that
is on the property. Mr. Johnson responded that the
catamaran is his, but that goes out on Lake Pepin.
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Councilmember Schneeman said she believes small sailboats
or canoeing are good for the lake, as it is good to stir up the
water once in a while.
Councilmember Vitelli moved adoption of Resolution 07 -28:
"A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE WETLANDS
PERMIT AT 2219 SWAN COURT AS PROPOSED."
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 07 -07, JONES Assistant to the City Administrator Jake Sedlacek
reviewed the case in which the applicant, Gary Jones, 2213
Swan Court, is proposing to clear undergrowth, creating a
path to the lake and place a temporary /seasonal dock in
Rogers Lake.
Mr. Sedlacek said the dock is covered under the DNR
ordinance, and this case refers to only the clearing of
vegetation.
Mr. Sedlacek said the Planning Commission had
recommended approval and has asked the applicant to be
careful in removing this vegetation to minimize the impact.
Councilmember Vitelli moved adoption of Resolution 07 -29,
"A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE WETLANDS
PERMIT AT 2213 SWAN COURT" as proposed.
Commissioner Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 07 -08 Assistant to the City Administrator Jake Sedlacek
EDGERTON reviewed the case in which the applicant, Vern Edgerton, is
proposing to construct a fence. Fences up to 6 feet tall are
allowed as conditional uses on corner lots.
Mr. Sedlacek said the existing fence is currently located
outside the property line and the applicant is proposing to
place the new fence inside the property line.
Mr. Sedlacek said the applicant is replacing this very old
fence with a 5 -ft black chain link fence to better protect his
dog.
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Planner Steve Grittman said this is proposal meets all the
conditions of the CUP and the Planning Commission had
recommended approval.
Mayor Huber asked Public Works Director Sue McDermott
if she had any concerns. Ms. McDermott said she did not,
and was glad that the fence will be moved further away from
the right of way.
Councilmember Duggan said he believed the fence is an
ornamental fence and commended the applicant for having a
lovely property and putting in a new fence that will enhance
the area very well. Councilmember Duggan said he hopes
the City leaves the curb and gutter off this street to keep the
character of the property as it is, having a country feel.
Mr. Edgerton, 682 2nd Avenue, said that the fence was
changed to an ornamental fence to better keep the dog in the
yard. Mr. Edgerton said the slat -style fence will keep the
dog from trying to climb up as she could on the chain link.
Mayor Huber commended Mr. Edgerton on the great job he
has done with his property.
Councilmember Vitelli moved adoption of Resolution 07 -30,
"A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT AT 686 2ND AVENUE." Councilmember
Duggan seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 07 -09 Assistant to the City Administrator Jake Sedlacek
ABRAMOVICH reviewed the case in which the applicant, Simon
Abramovich, 719 Spring Creek Circle, is proposing to do
some minor grading as part of a remodeling job.
Mr. Sedlacek said the task at hand is a wetlands permit as the
applicant is also doing some renovations to the house. Mr.
Sedlacek reviewed the layout of the property and explained
how the additions will be laid out. The land must be graded
out to allow for the egress windows being installed on the
home.
Mr. Sedlacek said anything within the 100 -ft of the wetland
area needs a permit for any encroachment. Staff has
reviewed this plan and does not see a lot of impact upon the
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wetlands, and part of the home has a 14 -ft. encroachment
into the wetlands buffer.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if Staff will be monitoring
this project to make sure that the encroachment will not go
any further. Ms. McDermott said Staff will be inspecting to
make sure the erosion control is in place and monitoring the
grading as well to make sure the drainage works according to
the plan. Councilmember Krebsbach said this yard and
creek is beautiful.
Councilmember Duggan expressed his concern on how much
the deck encroaches into the wetland. Mr. Sedlacek
reviewed a detail map that the applicant has provided that
shows the approximate 100 -ft. buffer and the deck location.
Mr. Sedlacek said the age of this deck is not known at this
time, and it was existing at the time of the application.
Councilmember Duggan asked what the amount of
encroachment is for the deck.
Mayor Huber said if the deck was added without a permit, it
would be a non - conforming deck, and Council would have to
determine whether or not a permit would need to be issued.
Councilmember Duggan said greater care should be taken
considering the softness of the ground, so that the slope will
be preserved.
City Administrator Jim Danielson said Ms. McDermott's
calculations indicate that the distance between the wetland
and the home is 80 -ft., and that the creek moves so that there
is about a 4 -ft. difference.
Mr. Sedlacek said this home was just recently purchased by
the applicant, who closed on this home this spring.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if this creek rises from
time to time, and if there is any concern about water
problems and flooding. Mr. Danielson said not at this point,
but farther downstream, there have been some issues that the
City is dealing with now.
Councilmember Duggan said some of the homes on the other
side of the creek seem to have some challenges by the water
level.
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Councilmember Krebsbach said she is concerned about any
changes to the creek bed. Mr. Sedlacek said there is an 8 -ft.
difference from what the bottom of this grading will be.
Councilmember Vitelli asked if any of the ground will be
removed, or just moved around the property. Mr. Sedlacek
said it will be moved around on site for re- landscaping.
Mayor Huber asked if anyone on the Council wished to
further investigate the deck and any permitting that may have
or may not have been done. Councilmember Duggan said
that since these applicants have inherited this home as it is,
the City should have to live with it and the applicant should
not be punished for having a non - conforming deck.
Councilmember Duggan said he would like to be sure that
the City has taken all the necessary steps to preserve the
slope areas (in relation to all the construction) with the
appropriate materials.
Councilmember Vitelli moved adoption of Resolution 07 -31,
"A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE WETLANDS
PERMIT AT 719 SPRING CREEK CIRCLE."
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 07 -10, RYAN Assistant to the City Administrator Jake Sedlacek
reviewed the case in which the applicant, R. J. Ryan, is
seeking an 11 -ft. variance from Highway 55.
Mr. Sedlacek said the applicant has identified a hardship on
the property by having a pipeline easement, and that the
Planning Commission has determined that this property
creates a unique circumstance in this B -3 zone. The
Commission also found that the applicant proposes a
reasonable use of the property.
Ms. McDermott said this is a natural gas line, but is not sure
of who owns this line.
Mr. Sedlacek said the proposed building complies with all
the other setbacks, including the 75 -ft. easement for the
pipeline.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if the applicant was
present at this time. Mr. Sedlacek said he has not seen them
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yet. Councilmember Krebsbach said she would like to wait
until the applicant arrives before going further with this case. I
Mayor Huber put this case aside and continued with the rest
of the agenda until the applicant arrived.
CASE NO. 07 -11, Assistant to the City Administrator Jake Sedlacek
NOEL NELSON reviewed the case in which the applicant, Noel Nelson, 933
Delaware Avenue, has a single car, detached garage in their
Friendly Hills neighborhood. This garage, which is non -
conforming, is old and dilapidated. Mr. Nelson is wishing to
construct a two -car garage in its place.
Mr. Sedlacek said the conditional use permit is for the
detached garage, and the variance is for 6' to the rear yard
setback. The existing garage is located right on the property
line. The applicant is requesting the variance to allow the
garage to be placed 4 -ft. from the rear property line, and the
required setback is 10 -ft. The garage needs to be moved
closer to the property line to give enough room between the
garage and the existing home. Mr. Sedlacek said there is
also an existing utility pole on the adjacent neighbor's
property, and this proposal would satisfy the 5 -ft. easement
around that pole. Mr. Sedlacek said this variance would also
allow for an existing apple tree to remain at it is.
The Planning Commission recommends approval of this
request.
Councilmember Duggan asked what the distance was
between the proposed garage corner and the corner of the
porch. Mr. Nelson, applicant, said if he had to adhere to the
10 -ft setback, the distance would be about 5 -ft between the
buildings, and may even appear closer with the overhangs.
Mr. Nelson said if he is granted the variance, he would have
about 8 -ft. to 10 -ft. between.
Councilmember Vitelli moved adoption of Resolution 07 -32,
"A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT AND A 6' VARIANCE TO THE REAR YARD
SETBACK FOR A DETACHED GARAGE AT 933
DELAWARE AVENUE." Councilmember Schneeman
seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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Councilmember Duggan asked how the driveway would be
laid out. Mr. Nelson explained how the driveway would be
extended to the second garage door, and continues around
the south side of the garage for an extra concrete slab.
Councilmember Krebsbach told the applicant that he has a
beautiful porch.
CASE NO. 07 -12 Assistant to the City Administrator Jake Sedlacek
CAROL NELSON reviewed the case in which the applicant, Carol Nelson, 1312
Wachtler Avenue, would like to replace an existing detached
garage. Mr. Sedlacek said the applicant wishes to replace
with an exact same structure. Mr. Sedlacek said all the
requirements of the conditional use permit as far as size and
setbacks have been met. The applicant is proposing to raise
the elevation of the foundation as there is currently a lot of
water damage to the existing foundation.
Councilmember Duggan stated that the applicant paid a fee
for replacing an existing garage with an exact replica, and
perhaps the City could consider giving back some of the fee.
Mr. Sedlacek said these fees are still needed for the time and
labor of Staff, as well as the hearing process and notification
for the Planning Commission and the City Council.
Councilmember Vitelli moved adoption of Resolution 07 -33,
"A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT FOR A DETACHED GARAGE AT 1312
WACHTLER AVENUE." Councilmember Schneeman
seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
2030 COMPREHENSIVE Mayor Huber asked that the Council skip to Item K on the
PLAN WORKSHOP agenda and discuss the scheduling of the 2030
Comprehensive Plan Workshop.
As part of City Planner Steve Grittman's work plan, there
needs to be a joint meeting with the City Council and the
Planning Commission.
Councilmember Krebsbach said this meeting will be worth
the time spent as there are some key issues that need to be
discussed. Mayor Huber said this is a time that the City can
see if anyone sees any need for changing any part of the
Comprehensive Plan.
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Mr. Danielson reminded the Council that this work needs to
be completed by the end of 2008.
Councilmember Vitelli asked the Council members if this is
the right time to be doing this, and is there any need for more
information to prepare for this meeting.
Councilmember Duggan said this will give the Council a
chance to take an overall, collective look at where the City
will be in 10 years time. Also, this information needs to go
to Met Council as they want to have all the documents from
all the 190+ communities. Councilmember Duggan said the
Council needs to do everything they can to continue the
planning process that has been used over the past 20 years,
allowing the City to develop the way it has, and it's
important to have preplanning and prethinking so that the
Met Council does not suddenly come back and say the city is
way under population and must make all kinds of changes.
If the Council goes through this process, it will give proper
documentation for any argument and discussion with Met
Council.
After some discussion about a possible date for this meeting,
Mayor Huber asked the Council members to get back to Mr.
Danielson with their availability, and to have Mr. Danielson
check with the Planning Commissioners to see what their
availability is and put this item back on the agenda for the
next Council meeting to further discuss scheduling of this
meeting. Mayor Huber said he would like to have this
completed by June 15tH
CASE NO. 07 -10 Mayor Huber said that since the applicant is not present
RYAN at this meeting, he recommended that this case be tabled
until the next meeting.
Mayor Huber moved to table Case No. 07 -10 until the next
regular City Council meeting. Councilmember Vitelli
seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 07 -13, MENDOTA Assistant to the City Administrator Jake Sedlacek
MALL ASSOCIATES informed Council that the applicant, Mendota Mall
Associates, Highway 110 and Dodd Road, is proposing a
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planned unit development and has submitted a concept plan
for the Council's review.
Mr. Sedlacek said this property is mostly guided as mixed
use planned unit development and is zoned B -4. There is a
small portion on the east end of the property as nature
preserve, and the entire site will need to be to be rezoned to
MU -PUD.
The concept plan is proposed to construct 7,200 square feet
of new retail and 7,200 square feet of restaurant in two new
buildings along Highway 110.
Mr. Sedlacek reviewed an aerial photo of the property
indicating where this concept would be laid out.
Councilmember Krebsbach said she would like to have some
clarification on the ownership of the MnDOT parcel in
relationship with the Dodge Nature Center and the property
owned by Mendota Mall Associates. Mr. Danielson said
there is a state easement between the mall property and the
nature center, and this area is under MnDOT's control.
Councilmember Duggan said he walked this property and
asked about the roadway along the creek. Mr. Sedlacek said
this is a private road and the applicant will be addressing this
area during the presentation of the concept plan.
Councilmember Duggan asked who owns the creek. Mr.
Danielson said the applicant owns the creek, but the City has
an easement in that area. Councilmember Duggan asked if
the DNR has any jurisdiction on this wetland. Ms.
McDermott said the City will be reviewing any activity in
this wetland area. Ms. McDermott said this creek has no
name designation.
Mr. Aaron Hemquist, RLK Inc., is the engineer for this
project. Mr. Hemquist reviewed the site plan and answered
questions from the Council. Mr. Hemquist said there is an
existing pond that is very long and narrow. The applicant
proposes to construct a pond that is considerably bigger.
Councilmember Duggan asked if the pond runs parallel to
the creek, and is not a part of the creek. Mr. Hemquist said
that is correct. The new pond will be constructed to treat the
entire fully developed site, and will have some decorative
retaining walls around the pond.
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Councilmember Krebsbach expressed her concerns for the
green space currently in this area and if this plan goes
forward, she encouraged the applicant to keep as much green
space along Highway 110 as possible.
Councilmember Krebsbach referred to the Dodge Nature
Center and said the preserve experience can really be
affected by this 7,200 square foot retail space and asked the
developer to do anything possible to provide a buffer along
this edge.
Councilmember Duggan asked how much of the creek would
be lost. Mr. Hemquist said all of it would be lost to the site
because there will be a new pond in that area, and an
underground pipe would be installed to drain the creek and
direct the water to the pond.
Councilmember Duggan asked if the applicant has
considered the possibility of combining the parking of the
retail and the restaurant, as there could be a lot of green
space saved. Mr. Hemquist said it is anticipated that both the
retail and the restaurants will be open during the same hours.
Councilmember Duggan asked if the applicant has
considered the possibility of bringing the two buildings
closer together and having the road move to Highway 110 on
the very eastern edge of the property creating a boulevard
with trees along it. This would give extra protection to the
preserve area. Mr. Hemquist said there will be no traffic
going behind the building near the nature center.
Councilmember Duggan said there has been concern
expressed by the Planner and the Planning Commission that
the proposed road cutting through the southeast corner would
serve as a shortcut and asked if this road could be excluded
from the plan. Mr. Hemquist said he could not promise to do
that, and explained how they will work with this area to
better position the loading docks and provide landscaping.
Mr. Ken Henk, representing Paster Enterprises, the applicant,
at Mendota Mall Associates, 2227 University Avenue, St.
Paul, MN, presented and reviewed building elevations,
providing more details of the site.
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Mr. Henk explained how MnDOT's property comes into
play, and said the nature center has first rights to purchase
this property. Mr. Henk said either way, that area will most
likely remain green.
Mr. Henk said the plans will allow for some type of drive up
window on the end of one of the buildings. Councilmember
Schneeman asked if this would be for fast food. Mr. Henk
said it would be. Councilmember Schneeman said this
building is for retail. Mr. Henk said the term "retail" would
also include some type of food service, such as Caribou
Coffee.
Mr. Henk reviewed the materials and colors to be used in the
project, which will be close to what the Village has. Mr.
Henk said whatever materials will be used on these buildings
will be used on any additional development, plus the existing
structures will have a face lift with these materials. Mr.
Henk said he would like to provide more preliminary plans
on what they are envisioning for this space, which can
include senior housing and daycare facilities. The thought is
to grade the site, with major cuts in the southern portion of
the property to bring the elevation up along Highway 110,
and with these two buildings, the overall scheme can be
visualized.
Councilmember Vitelli said he believes there is too much
parking and impervious surface.
Councilmember Vitelli said the retaining wall is a concern to
him in that this may open up the opportunity for graffiti.
Councilmember Vitelli said the new street will be an
interesting and attractive short cut for people coming north
on Dodd Road and wanting to take a right on Highway 110.
Councilmember Vitelli said there should be more of a plan
for the total site rather than the next phase. Councilmember
Vitelli said he learned some history of this area, which shows
that the existing structure was not laid out so well. This
property was planned long ago when there was supposed to
be a clover leaf intersection for Dodd Road and Highway
110. The existing structure is not in a good location, and
now the Council is being asked to approve an addition.
Councilmember Vitelli said architecturally, this plan seems
dull, as it seems like boxes. He would like to see the two
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buildings brought together rather than the applicants saying
someday in the future they would bring the architecture of
the existing building into conformance with the new style. It
seems that should be a part of this now, making the total site
more attractive rather than the end result looking like another
piece is being added.
Councilmember Vitelli asked where the water feature would
be. Mr. Henk said a waterfall would be located where the
pond is, across from the restaurant seating area. This
waterfall will aerate the pond and create a white noise.
Councilmember Vitelli asked that another item of discussion
come with the proposal for the future to address the ability to
keep the pond full, as currently the dell behind the senior
complex across the street is getting empty, and the City is
told that they would have to hope for rain or start feeding the
dell with the fire hydrant.
Councilmember Vitelli said he would like to see the
applicant nail down more the future plan of the total site if
this is handled as a PUD, and try to get rid of some of the
parking.
Councilmember Schneeman said she agrees with
Councilmember Vitelli's comments and is very disappointed
with the current shopping center. Councilmember
Schneeman said she would never approve anything until a
plan comes forth. Do It Best Hardware has been out of
business for about one and a half years, and the sign is still
up, and she does not see that the applicant cares much about
this area. Something wonderful could be done there and she
hopes that the plan will address the other shops there because
they may become "orphans ". Councilmember Schneeman
said there is a desperate need for retail shopping for the
women residents in the area, as there are not a lot of these
types of stores in the area. Food stores/big grocery stores
would not be a good fit in this area. Councilmember
Schneeman said she would like to know what the plans are
for the existing shopping center and would like to see a
concept plan for the whole thing. Councilmember
Schneeman said the applicant could very well treat the older
tenants the same as new ones and this is a fairness issue.
Mayor Huber said he agrees with the comments that have
been said, and there is a lack of total design. Mayor Huber
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said there is no clear vision for the existing area and he does
not see where the mixed use is being part of this plan.
Mayor Huber said the applicant is asking the City to give up
things in terms of zoning, and it is clear that an overall site
plan is being requested. Mayor Huber said he does not
believe this is any benefit to the City at this time.
Councilmember Krebsbach said she agrees that the whole
plan should have a vision of a mixed use. Councilmember
Krebsbach said placing the retail adjacent to the Dodge
Nature Center gives an opportunity to be near one of the few
preserves in the state, and there is nothing in the plan that
recognizes that. The building would have to be pulled away
from the preserve and move up the street. This plan
disassociates itself from Mendota Plaza.
Councilmember Duggan asked if the applicant has
considered placing cottages along the Dodge Nature Center,
which would give a mixed use and a better use of the
preserve as a back yard to cottages. This could also be done
on the southwest area.
Councilmember Duggan said that unfortunately, the anchor
building is an anchor in the worst sense of the word, and he
believes the message has become clear that this building
needs to be addressed. If the applicant wants to complement
the buildings across the street with the proposed buildings, it
can't be done unless the existing building is removed.
Councilmember Duggan commented on the access from
Highway 110 being a very sharp turn, and students will take
this as a shortcut to get across the highway to get to Caribou
Coffee.
Councilmember Duggan said he is very concerned about the
creek and is not comfortable having it cut off with a drain
pipe into a pond.
Councilmember Duggan said he is concerned about the idea
of feasibility studies on what is going to work here based on
what has happened across the street and the time it is taking
to fill those buildings. Even putting a popular restaurant,
such as Axels, in this area would be a challenge.
Councilmember Duggan said even the feasibility study that
was done for Bob Kowalski did not give a great draw for this
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area, and how much business would this concept plan bring
based on that experience.
Councilmember Duggan said the plan could be maximized
by bringing the restaurant closer to the creek, and maybe the
buildings don't have to be so big, perhaps a series of smaller
buildings could be placed along this area.
Mr. Henk said he appreciates all the feedback and knows
there are some issues with the existing building. Mr. Henk
said the thought was to leave the southern areas open at this
time, and he understands the comments with the PUD - the
whole idea being to fill in the whole parcel and have a
master plan to fill out the entire area.
Mayor Huber said the City wants to see a total plan that
should be consistent with the Comprehensive Plan, and at the
same time, the City is here to try to see that property
developed to its best use. The City wants to work with the
applicant to see what that use is. Mayor Huber said the City
understands that the applicant may say some of these ideas
will not work, and then perhaps everyone will need to take a
step back and ask where to go from here.
Mayor Huber said he would like to continue this discussion
and thanked the applicant for their time on this project.
PAR 3 GENERAL Finance Director Kristen Schabacker said there is a
OBLIGATION BONDS resolution on the agenda to provide for the sale of general
obligation bonds to purchase the Par 3.
Mark Ruff, Ehlers and Associates, said the Council has the
opportunity to comment on the structure of the bonds that are
being proposed to be sold pursuant to the referendum.
The anticipated schedule would be that the bond sale would
be held on June 5, 2007 and at that time, the City would
award the sale of the bonds if they so choose. Before the
awarding of the sale, there would be a process where an
official statement (the document and facts and figures behind
it) is prepared, and he will conduct a conference call with the
rating agencies to see what the rating view is of the City's
financial and growth development status at this time. Mr.
Ruff said closing would be approximately the last week in
June.
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Mr. Ruff said the report presented at this time addresses
some issues:
• The election did contemplate a maximum bond issue of
$2,790,000. It is the recommendation of Ehlers and
Associates that the Council offer to the public market a
bond issue of maximum par amount $2,810,000 (which is
approximately $20,000 more). State law contemplates
the concept and allows cities, counties, and school
districts to increase the amount of bonds to allow for
something called "underwriters discount", which is
comparable to taking a home mortgage and paying
points. The upfront cost reduces the overall interest cost
of the bond issue over time and increases the market and
has a better chance of reducing the overall tax impact to
the taxpayers. This is clearly the Council's call under
state law if they want to choose this. If they choose not
to, the City will still receive a very good interest rate.
On top of the cost of $2,675,00 is the cost of acquiring
and improving this facility, the costs related to carrying
the interest costs between now and when the City will
actually start levying, the City will not levy until 2008,
and the City will not actually be receiving money until
the summer of 2008, there needs to be one interest
payment until that day, and there will be the need to pay
the cost of attorney fees, rating fees, and Ehlers' fees as
well. Interest rates of will be determined on June 5th
This is a competitive sale and he would expect 4 to 7
bidders from around the country. If the City does not
anticipate issuing more than $10 million this year, that
should broaden the market as IRS rules as such that if a
community issues less than $10 million, the banks can
purchase those bonds and receive the same benefit.
With interest rates increasing, the IRS has rules about
how much interest the City can earn on funds on the
construction or tax levy proceeds and Ehlers' cautions
the cities, counties, and school districts are subject to IRS
rules on how much money they make off taxes and
bonds.
Mayor Huber asked for clarification that the $20,000 would
let the City buy down the interest rate and so that may serve
to get a better interest rate so that the total payment stream
may be better if the City goes with the $2,810,00. Mr. Ruff
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said they may come back to the City on June 5th and say they
have found underwriters that were looking for a different
type of structure, and it is only $2,790,000 and did not take
the full maximum amount that is allowed under this
proposal. Mr. Ruff said this plan would allow taking the
maximum of about $28,000 in fees.
Mayor Huber asked if, on June 5th, the recommendation
would be who the best bidder is for this issue. Mr. Ruff said
there is a process and calculation that is undertaken called a
"true interest cost ", which measures both fees and interest
rates over a period of time.
Mayor Huber asked Mr. Ruff if he thought the City would be
better off going with the $2,810,000 to give the opportunity
to get a better deal for the taxpayers. Mr. Ruff said it is their
recommendation and public trust is important, so if this
approach is too difficult to communicate to the taxpayers
given the time frames, the City will not be getting a bad
interest rate if they choose not to go this route.
Mayor Huber expressed his concern about the risk. Mr. Ruff
said the market has been remarkably stable, given the world
events and the fear of recession. If these bonds were sold
today, the rate would be something just under 4 %. Fora
risky bond, the risk would be about 5 %. Mr. Ruff said this is
a very good time to sell bonds.
Councilmember Duggan asked how significant this is based
on the whole thing, and that $20,000 is a very small amount.
Mr. Ruff said he is told by bond traders that with today's
interest rates being so low, there are people who like to have
different structures that run contrary to what others may
think are rational and those different structures have to do
with tax laws. Some people would rather have to pay the
City more money upfront and have an interest rate that is
maybe 4% on their bonds. Other people, given where their
bond tax situation is, will buy bonds — these people are not
individuals and banks, but they are bond funds. So maybe
that bond fund would want to pay a little less and have a
lower interest rate over time. These traders who work with
underwriters have these conversations on a daily basis and it
changes from day to day. In this case, the thought of having
an extra $20,000 is just to give some flexibility, and may
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mean a lot in terms of achieving more bidders to get a better
chance of lowering the costs to the taxpayer.
Councilmember Duggan asked what impact the $20,000
extra would have on the average homeowner. Mr. Ruff said
at the top end, it would mean $1 a year more per taxpayer,
but the taxpayer would be saving on the interest rate in the
long run.
Councilmember Duggan asked for confirmation that the way
the resolution is crafted, and the way Mr. Ruff has presented
this plan, is that it could be a $2,790,000 bond and that the
worst case scenario is that it might go to $2,810,000 and this
could be more beneficial to the residents. Mr. Ruff that is
correct.
Councilmember Vitelli said that after hearing this research,
he would suggest taking the advice of Mr. Ruff. The key
issue is what will be the total cost over a 15 -year period to
the residents. By allowing the extra $20,000, there is a
chance that one offer will come in that is a lower cost than
with the $2,790,000. This gives flexibility on June 5th and
this is the right thing to do. Councilmember Vitelli said he is
in total support of this recommendation.
Councilmember Schneeman said this is good because now it
explains to the public exactly what the thinking is.
Councilmember Krebsbach said the City has the option on
June 5th to not go with the $2,810,000. This seems to be the
best action to give the best deal to the City.
Councilmember Vitelli moved adoption of Resolution 07 -27,
"A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR THE SALE OF
$2,810,000 GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES
2007A." Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 07 -14 Mr. Sedlacek introduced the case where the applicant,
UNITED PROPERTIES United Properties, is requesting that the Comprehensive Plan
be amended for the northeast corner of Highway 494 and
Pilot Knob Road. It is currently guided "I" (Industrial) and
they are asking it be changed to "B" (Business). Mr.
Sedlacek said the applicant has provided some concept
drawings.
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The Planning Commission has provided a lot of feedback for
this case. Mr. Sedlacek said the site is currently guided for
restaurants, and it has been a very hard to find restaurants to
come into this area.
Mr. Dale Glowa, United Properties, introduced Drew
Johnson, with the retail group at United Properties. Mr.
Glowa said United Properties is requesting an amendment to
the guide plan to allow retail uses on this corner. There is no
project at this time, and there are no requests for zoning
changes at this point.
Mr. Glowa said this amendment will enable United
Properties to approach the retail market with confidence and
try to find tenants for this project.
Mr. Glowa gave an overview of the history of this property.
Mr. Glowa presented a map showing approximately 20 acres
of undeveloped land in this business park,
United Properties is looking at doing a retail project that will
be service oriented on a neighborhood scale to serve the
business employees in the area. These services include
coffee, dry cleaning, sandwiches, pizza, ethnic restaurant,
packaging store, etc. United Properties has continually
encountered problems in trying to get in larger scale
restaurants.
Mr. Glowa said he believes these types of amenities would
serve the employees in this area and has been receiving a lot
of feedback from these employees wishing to have the
convenience of stopping on the way to and from work.
The City Council in the past has expressed negative concerns
about C- Stores (convenience /gas). The tenants are now
asking for this type of service.
Mr. Johnson has been contacted by a major C -Store
company and United Properties is confident that they could
land this type of business, and incorporate this type of use
into this area (architectural and lighting consistency, noise
issues will be addressed).
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Mr. Glowa said they are only in the concept stage and they
need to meet the needs of their tenants and create vitality
within the business park because the park is aging.
Mr. Glowa spoke about Grand Oaks in Eagan, where there is
an office development with the addition of these types of
services, and it has been a very successful arrangement.
Because of this, United Properties has lost three prospective
tenants totally about 65,000 sq. ft. of space to that
development.
Mayor Huber said it is becoming logical that United
Properties is not going to get a restaurant for the site, and he
believes they have given it their best efforts. Mayor Huber
said on the flip side, a c -store or gas station does not appeal
to him.
Councilmember Vitelli said it could be that finding a
restaurant has not been a success because of the price. Mr.
Johnson said he just met with a brokerage firm that
represents a lot of national chains and was told that it's hard
to do a restaurant in Minnesota because of the TIF sharing
laws. United Properties is currently having some problems
doing free - standing restaurants with some sites in
Bloomington and Lakeville that have 4 or 5 times the traffic,
because of higher construction costs. United Properties has
tried to subsidize people, but because of the investments that
need to be made inside these buildings, and the staffing, they
did not get the traffic to support the cost.
Councilmember Vitelli asked if United Properties has had
discussion with the Marriott. Mr. Johnson said they have
and there were some representatives at the Planning
Commission who later told Mr. Johnson that they were
delighted with this concept.
Mayor Huber said if there were a sense Council was
interested in allowing this, what information would United
Properties be coming back with. Mr. Johnson said the
Planning Commission asked if the City would be able to
place restrictions on what is placed on this site. United
Properties wants to be as flexible as possible in response to
the market, and it's likely that a mini - market/c -store would
work with the limited services.
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Councilmember Schneeman said she thinks this is such a
beautiful site and she would hate to see a strip mall and
filling station on that corner. Councilmember Schneeman
expressed concern for a gas station open all night and the
lighting that would be on. Councilmember Schneeman
asked if the tenant purchases the land as well as the building.
Mr. Glowa said that was correct.
Councilmember Schneeman asked if any thoughts were
given to add a health/tennis club. There is a market for that.
Mr. Glowa said the 3.76 acre site is not big enough for that,
unless it's the smaller businesses such as Snap Fitness or
Curves.
Mr. Johnson said consideration has been taken in account for
the traffic flow from the airport and river area, from which
businesses have to draw customers.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked what the occupancy rate is
in the business park. Mr. Glowa said about 91% full.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if there has been any
impact on the industrial park because of Brown College. Mr.
Glowa views this as a plus because they are tenants in the
park, and some of that activity can be negative due to
parking in the streets and there are people walking casually
around. For the most part, the activity level is a positive one.
This is a solid organization and it's good to have this anchor
there.
Councilmember Krebsbach said a concern is pulling people
off Highway 494. Highway 13 is the busiest area for the
police department, and there is a concern that this part of
Mendota Heights will be opened up. The City needs to think
about a 24 -hour service that a gas station would bring in and
how that would affect the area. Councilmember Krebsbach
said she would not support 24 hour businesses.
Councilmember Krebsbach said she would be interested in
talking to United Properties as the City reviews the
Comprehensive Plan to see if United Properties would see
any need for redevelopment. Councilmember Krebsbach
said the business park is a very classy area, and believes the
City could go to another level if the gas station / c -store is
taken off the discussion. There is room for more regional
corporate headquarters in this area and thinks she that would
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be a great market. Mr. Glowa said he would be happy to
participate.
Mayor Huber said one of the concerns the City has had with
the gas stations is that the City does not wish to have a place
where the parking lot serves the airport. This is an area
where the City would be concerned as well as they do not
want to attract that kind of business.
Councilmember Krebsbach said the City went through a 4 -5
year period where proposals for servicing the airport came in
(such as car rental) where the Council wanted to guide the
city away from that and still keep the character of the City.
It's important for the Council to keep looking at this
intersection and monitor what is happening.
Mr.Glowa respects these comments and over the years,
United Properties has worked with 210 acres in the Mendota
Heights Business Park, as well as several hundred acres in
Eagan, and his concern is how to retain the current tenants
and attract new tenants so that it does not become a retail
mall where all they can get in there is a Dollar Store.
Mr. Glowa talked about the importance of redevelopment
and revitalization of business parks and retail areas.
Councilmember Duggan asked for the applicant to come
back with some answers to: what the current traffic is on
Pilot Knob Road, Northland Drive and Mendota Heights
Road, and how well Cordon Bleu is doing as a restaurant.
Councilmember Duggan said United Properties has
established success for the community and he will support
the resolution that is before the Council.
Councilmember Duggan said the normal draw of retail is 3
miles. United Properties is a bit crimped because of
Highways 494, 55, and 13 are natural boundaries. On the
north side, there is Highway 110. It seems to be a stretch for
people to come down to this location from Highway 110.
This goes back to being fresh and vibrant and new as
opposed to a Dollar Store type of tenant.
Councilmember Duggan said he would like to know what the
distance is currently from this proposal to the nearest gas
station/pizza place /coffee shop locationy. ,
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Councilmember Duggan said he does not believe a {
feasibility study would need to be done and asked if United
Properties would anticipate drawing more traffic from south
of Highway 494.
Mr. Glowa said he does not have a traffic count but does not
observe any traffic problems in the park. Corden Bleu is
doing well. The new one does not have a restaurant yet but
it is in their budget to do one in 2008, and that will be their
last addition.
Councilmember Duggan said based on the experiences over
the years with United Properties he is happy to move
adoption of the resolution.
Councilmember Duggan moved adoption of Resolution 07-
34: "A resolution approving a comprehensive land use plan
amendment from "I" to `B" District" as proposed. Mayor
Huber seconded the motion.
Further Discussion
Councilmember Krebsbach said she would like to hear from
the police department regarding a gas station.
Councilmember Duggan asked if this needs to go through
Met Council. Ms. McDermott said it will.
City Clerk Swanson called the roll.
Ayes: 2 (Mayor Huber, Councilmember Duggan)
Nays: 3 (Councilmember Schneeman, Krebsbach, Vitelli)
Motion Failed
Councilmember Vitelli said he would like to see more
information on what the impact to the City would be.
Councilmember Krebsbach said the City needs to determine
what the impacts on the city will be.
Councilmember Vitelli said it seems that the SuperAmerica
reports a lot of incidents.
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Councilmember Duggan said the City has an obligation to
work with United Properties to preserve what they have built
with the City.
Councilmember Vitelli suggested that a conceptual plan of
what this would look like would be a good idea to review.
Mayor Huber said this was a good discussion and United
Properties has received some feedback, and will figure out
where the concerns are, and can come back to the City with
some additional information.
Councilmember Krebsbach said a workshop could be held to
discuss this further.
Mr. Johnson said he would like some guidance — since the
petition is to change the guide from "1" to `B" and it's pretty
clear that there is a possibility of allowing for limited service
retail without the gas station. United Properties could go
back and re -study the market and find another mini - anchor
that does not have the same kind of client and traffic issues.
Councilmember Krebsbach said the Council still needs to
have discussion amongst themselves and the Police Chief on
this project.
Councilmember Vitelli said it seems that a big issue is the
24 -hour gas station, and suggested that perhaps these retail
businesses, even with the gas station, could have a time limit
on their operation.
Police Chief Aschenbrener said there are a large variety of
issues with gas stations. His does not believe the 24 -hour
timeframe is as big an issue as the guiding of the type of
clientele.
Mr. Danielson asked if Staff should bring this back at the
next meeting with a resolution for denial, or will it be tabled.
Mayor Huber instructed Staff to come back at the next
meeting with a new resolution for denial, but wants to
continue having some open discussion on this project.
Mayor Huber said this will not have to go through the
Planning Commission as they have already recommended
approval.
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PAR 3 MANAGEMENT Mr. Danielson said the first steps were taken this evening
with the authorization of Ehlers and Associates to proceed
with the sale of the bonds to purchase the property. The
money would be available on June 25th and Staff will be
working toward closing before July as there would be some
tax implications after July 1.
Mr. Danielson said he and Mr. Sedlacek will be meeting
with the manager of the Burnsville Par 3 and the current
manager of Mendota Heights Par 3 to clarify the
establishment of continued operations after the closing, such
as cash handling, (as there are no credit card authorizations
for City Staff), food service license, beer license, repairs that
are needed, contracting of employees for the remainder of
2007.
Mr. Danielson said if there is a contract with the employees
to continue for the rest of year, operations for 2008 and
beyond will need to be determined. Mr. Danielson said
Councilmember Vitelli has recommended establishing a task
force that could help answer questions. Mr. Danielson said
Jerry Murphy, a long time past manager of Somerset Golf
Course is willing to participate. Mr. Murphy is also a
reserve police office for the City.
Mr. Danielson suggested having the current manager of the
Par 3 on the task force to help explain how the course
operates. Mr. Danielson recommended Mr. Sedlacek be a
staff representative. Mr. Danielson said it would be wise to
keep this task force to a small number at this time.
Councilmember Duggan suggested adding a member of the
Council and the Parks board, as well as having a citizen
serve on this committee. Councilmember Schneeman said
perhaps some subcommittees could be formed — keep it
small to get started. Councilmember Krebsbach said she
would not be for a citizen representative as she does not
know what the criteria would be. Councilmember
Krebsbach feels this group is needed to get organized, and
there is no need to have a "watch -dog" at this time.
Councilmember Vitelli said the Park board member could
serve as a citizen member as well.
Councilmember Vitelli said it was his experience that too
many people on a task force could lead to gridlock. There
are a lot of ideas and there will be new management. An
operating plan is needed, as well as a marketing plan.
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Councilmember Vitelli recommended Theresa Gangelhoff be
used as a resource. This probably needs to be a committee
for about 90 days and it's important to begin immediately.
Mayor Huber said looking long -term; one of the key issues
would be working with the leagues for feedback on how the
golf course could be improved. Councilmember Krebsbach
said that is an excellent idea and can provide some names of
league members if necessary.
Councilmember Duggan asked about the $7,500 payments
and will they continue. City Attorney Tami Diehm said the
City pays on the first of the month. Because the referendum
was successful, the City now makes a payment on May 1 St
and on June 1St, assuming the City will close in June.
Councilmember Duggan asked if rent will be prorated if a
full month is not leased. Ms. Diehm said that was correct.
Councilmember Vitelli said a memo was received from John
Mango, a resident of Mendota Heights, and he asked Staff to
contact this resident to make sure there is an understanding
of this memo, since Mr. Mango develops and finances golf
courses.
Mayor Huber recommended that Staff give regular updates
on the committee's progress at the Council meetings.
COUNCIL COMMENTS Councilmember Duggan spoke of his invitation by the
Minnesota International Center, which is associated with the
University of Minnesota, to assist in their Ireland celebration
to be held on May 121h
Councilmember Duggan reminded everyone of happy hour
at Sage Market and Wine Bar.
Councilmember Duggan suggested that the Mendota Heights
Garden Club be asked if they would like to do some planting
at the Par 3 golf course.
Councilmember Krebsbach said she observed a lot of golfers
5 ring the Par 3 and reminded all of the City Cleanup on May
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Councilmember Schneeman said there will be so much
enthusiasm and many ideas will come forth. Councilmember
Schneeman talked about her husband's experience with a
camp that had help of volunteers.
Councilmember Schneeman announced the birth of her 38th
grandchild, a girl named Mary Jeanne.
Councilmember Vitelli said he was pleased on the outcome
of the referendum vote, and was surprised at the emotions
that went into this process. He believes the Council did the
right thing to go this route and let the citizens make this
decision.
Councilmember Duggan talked about some of the families
that have been enjoying the golf course.
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before
Councilmember Krebsbach, moved to adjourn the City
Council meeting. Councilmember Duggan seconded the
motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Time of Adjournment: 10:30 p.m.
Rebecca Shaffer
ATTEST: Recording Secretary
John J. Huber
Mayor