1988-09-27 Planning Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
PLANNING COMMISSION
AGENDA
SEPTEMBER 27, 1988 - 7:30 P.M.
1. Call to Order.
2. Roll Call.
3. Approval of Minutes, August 23.
4. Introduction of New Commission Member, Michael Dwyer.
5. NEW BUSINESS: (Non-Hearing Items)
a. CASE NO. 88-36, Linsmayer, Variance.
b. CASE NO. 88-39, Lathrop, Lot Split.
c. CASE NO. 88-37, Paster, Variance for Temporary Sign.
6. HEARING:
a. CASE NO. 88-38, Paster, Conditional Use Permit for
PUD Amendment. (8:00 P.M.)
7. Verbal Review.
8. Adjourn.
NOTE:
Next month's meeting will be held in the Fire Station, 2121
Dodd Road.
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CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning
Commission was held on Tuesday, September 27, 1988, in the
City Hall Council Chambers, 750 South Plaza Drive. Vice-
Chair Anderson called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.M. The
following members were present: Anderson, Duggan, Krebsbach,
McMonigal, and new member Mike Dwyer. Commissioners Morson
and Burke had notified the Commission that they would be
unable to attend. Also present were Planning Consultant
Howard Dahlgren and Public Works Director Jim Danielson.
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES
Commissioner Duggan moved approval of the
August 23 minutes as submitted.
Commissioner McMonigal seconded the
motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Abstain: 1, Dwyer
INTRODUCTION OF Vice-Chair Anderson introduced and
NEW MEMBER welcomed Mr. Michael Dwyer, 558 Stone
Road, who was appointed by Council to
fill the vacancy created by the
resignation of Stu Henning. Mr. Dwyer, a
resident of Copperfield, is an attorney
with a Minneapolis law firm.
CASE NO. 88-36, Mr. Nicholas Linsmayer, 1935 Glenhill
LINSMAYER, Road, was present to request a five foot
VARIANCE side yard setback variance for Lot 17,
Block 1, Valley View Oak 1st, to allow
construction of a 20' by 35' in-ground
swimming pool. He noted that his
proposed pool placement will still
maintain a 10 foot setback from his home,
as had been requested by City staff. He
had a letter of approval from his
affected neighbor, Richard Swanberg, 1224
Culligan Lane.
Vice-Chair Anderson asked what the pool
fence would be like. Mr. Linsmayer
responded that it would be a six foot
vertical cedar, board on board fence.
Commissioner Krebsbach felt approval from
Mr. Larry Culligan, who will see the
fence from his property, would be good to
have on record.
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Commissioner Duggan asked where the pool
will drain. Mr. Linsmayer stated it will
not be drained, since it is an in- ground
pool.
Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend
approval of the requested five foot side
yard setback variance as shown on the map
submitted with the agenda materials,
conditioned upon written approval from
the Culligan family approving the plan.
Commissioner Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 88 -39, Mrs. Mary Lathrop, 640 Marie Avenue, was
LATHROP, LOT present to request approval to split her
SPLIT 202 foot wide lot into two parcels, A and
B. Her present home is on Parcel A,
which she plans to sell, so she can build
a new home on Parcel B. It was noted
that there is a shed on Parcel B, which
she stated belongs to her neighbors, the
LeMay's. She felt that as long as she
owns Parcel B and had written approval
from the LeMay's, the shed location
should present no problem.
The Commission felt she should get a more
accurate measurement of the shed on
Parcel A which is nearest the center of
the lot lines.
Vice -Chair Anderson felt the proposal
would not be out of character for the
neighborhood, and the newly created lot
would still contain over 21,000 square
feet.
Commissioner Krebsbach moved to recommend
approval of the subdivision of Lot 18,
Willow Springs Addition, into Parcel A
and Parcel B, 640 West Marie, as set
forth on the certificate of survey
reviewed at the meeting, contingent upon
written agreement between the LeMay's and
Mrs. Lathrop that Mary Lathrop will
remove the shed from her property (Parcel
B) when she sells that property.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 88 -37, Mr. Edward Paster was present to request
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PASTER, SIGN variances to allow a temporary (semi-
VARIANCE permanent, for 2-3 years) sign
(TEMPORARY) advertising space for lease in the
Mendota Plaza Shopping Center. He
proposes to place two 4' x 8' signs on
the property line along Dodd Road. It
was noted that City Ordinance allows 25
square feet and the proposed signs are 64
square feet. The Ordinance also calls
for a minimum setback for free standing
signs at 20 feet from a side lot line,
and the proposal is for a zero setback.
Mr. Paster noted that he is paying $500
for the sign, and would like it in place
for 2-3 years, not three months, and he
would like to place the sign on the
boulevard in the area where the Firemen's
Ball sign is now. He also noted that he
has to pay a $200 sign permit fee and
wondered if the fire department had to
pay the same fee. He also noted that
their sign is on his property and they
never asked permission to put it there.
Mr. John Streeter, the construction
foreman, said the legs would be treated
4x4 posts, 12 feet long, with four feet
in poured concrete in the ground. There
would be four feet clearance from the
ground to the bottom of the sign.
Planner Dahlgren noted that the Ordinance
requires a 100 foot setback from the
property line in a B-4 zone.
Vice-Chair Anderson expressed concern
with the viability of the shopping center
and also with obscuring the visibility by
placing the sign on the property line.
He felt this placement would obscure the
motorists vision while attracting their
attention. He felt that for lease signs
in the windows and the sign on the
McDonald pylon should be enough
advertising.
Mr. Paster felt that his firm needs to
correct the entrance into the center.
Vice-Chair Anderson felt a flat sign
facing Dodd Road would be preferable
since it would not obscure anyone's
vision.
Commissioner Duggan asked if McDonalds,
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Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 88-38,
PASTER, CUP/PUD
AMENDMENT
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Mendakota or Amoco know of the proposed
sign. Mr. Paster said he has not talked
to them about his proposal. Commissioner
Duggan then suggested placing a
brick/block sign on Mendakota's property
across from the entrance to the center.
Mr. Paster suggested that he could move
the sign back from the street and place
it up higher to help visibility.
Planner Dahlgren suggested putting the
sign under the existing pylon on TH 110.
Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend
denial of the variance as requested due
to potential traffic hazards,
distractions approaching an already busy
intersection, and in light of more viable
options.
Commissioner Dwyer seconded the motion.
Vice-Chair Anderson opened the meeting
for the purpose of a public hearing to
consider a request from Paster
Enterprises for a conditional use permit
for a planned unit development to allow
installation of two pylon signs and a
bell tower at Mendota Plaza Shopping
Center.
Mr. Paster noted that the existing center
sign, if moved from McDonalds to the
Paster property, would need to be five
feet higher than the existing sign. He
noted this would give them better
visibility. Planner Dahlgren felt the
legs could be longer, but that the sign
does not need to be larger. He felt a 41
foot sign is pretty high.
Commissioner Duggan asked Mr. Paster when
they decided to add the extra five foot
height. Mr. Paster responded that he
decided that the night before the
meeting. He also stated that the bell
tower is proposed to be 6'10" above the
tenants names and that three bell towers
would give a good architectural image to
the center. The base of the bell tower
will be "coining" stone and brick or
stone/block/brick material.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
VERBAL REVIEW
ADJOURN
Ayes: 5
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Vice-Chair Anderson felt this was a good
plan, but that there needs to be
agreement on the height of the signs.
There being no public for comments,
Commissioner Krebsbach moved to close the
public hearing at 9:05 P.M.
Commissioner McMonigal seconded the
motion.
Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend
approval of the conditional use permit
for a planned unit development amendment
prepared by Paster Enterprises with the
following conditions:
1. That pylon A may be five feet taller
than the existing sign.
2. That the bell tower is ok as
presented.
3. That pylon B as redesigned by Planner
Dahlgren be redrawn by an architect
and submitted to Council for the
public hearing. The sign may be five
feet higher than shown and that it be
placed on a redesigned concrete or
grassy area.
Vice-Chair Anderson added that the
placement of pylon B is based on a
redesigned driveway entrance and may not
be closer than 30 feet to the TH 149
right-of-way, and that this be subject to
final engineering and landscape detail
approval by city staff.
Commissioner Dwyer seconded the motion.
Public Works Director Danielson gave a
verbal review of the cases that had been
before the City Council.
There being no further business to come
before the Commission, Commissioner
McMonigal moved that the meeting be
adjourned.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
Nays: 0
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TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 9:15 P.M.
It was noted that this would be the last
Commission meeting to be held in this
Council Chamber. The October meeting
would be held at the Fire Station, 2121
Dodd Road.