1989-12-26 Planning Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES, DECEMBER 26, 1989
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning
Commission was held on Tuesday, December 26, 1989, in the
City Hall Council Chambers, 1101 Victoria Curve. Chairman
Morson called the meeting to order at 7:35 o'clock P.M. The
following members were present: Morson, Dreelan, Duggan,
Koll and Krebsbach. Dwyer was excused and Tilsen absent.
Also present were Acting City Administrator James Danielson,
Administrative Assistant Kevin Batchelder and Planning
Consultant Howard Dahlgren.
INTRODUCTION Chairman Morson welcomed new Planning
OF NEW MEMBER Commissioner, Carolyn Dreelan, to the
Planning Commission.
APPROVAL OF Commissioner Duggan moved approval of the
MINUTES minutes of November 28th with corrections.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
CASE NO. 89-46 Mr. George Spanjers presented his father
SPANJERS - John's case for their Wetlands Permit. Mr.
WETLANDS PERMIT Spanjers stated that the existing house is
closer than the new additions are to the
Wetlands.
Chairman Morson stated that this was in
essence a grandfather action to bring the
existing house into conformance with the
Wetlands Ordinance to allow the construction
of the addition.
Commissioner Duggan moved to waive the public
hearing and recommend to the City Council
that they grant a Wetlands Permit bringing
the existing dwelling into conformance and
allowing a fifty-eight foot (58') setback to
the Wetlands.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
CASE NO. 89-45
BIRCH -
SUBDIVISION
(HEARING)
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Mr. Brian Birch presented his request for a
subdivision. He stated that he had two
purposes in coming forward to the City for
this subdivision. He stated that what he
wished to do was enlarge Dr. Koepke's
property so that Dr. Koepke can build an
addition to his animal hospital and to
straighten his land with the exchange of the
triangular piece shown in drawing one.
Mr. Birch stated that the subdivision was
a simple transfer of land and that each party
was exchanging a triangular piece. Mr. Birch
stated that he was asking for approval of a
subdivision to plat this land for transfer.
Chairman Morson stated that he had no problem
with the replatting. He asked Mr. Birch
about the variance for the setback to Dr.
Koepke's building that would be necessary if
this exchange of land took place. His
question for Mr. Birch was is this necessary
to shave off this triangular piece.
Mr. Birch responded that yes it was necessary
to exchange this small triangular piece. He
explained that the frontage of his remaining
property would be one hundred ten feet (110')
and that in order to utilize his property, he
needs this exchange as it straightens out the
property which is narrow. He stated that
this triangular piece would give him the
ability to utilize his property to its full
potential. Mr. Birch also stated that Dr.
Koepke's building had no windows or doors in
the back where it faces his remaining
property.
Chairman Morson stated that there was a
drainage question raised by staff in its
memo. He wanted to know if water accumulates
in the ponding area shown on the drawing.
Mr. Birch responded that yes the water ponds
there on occasion. Mr. Birch stated that he
has owned the land for approximately twenty
(20) years and as far as he knows there has
never been a problem with water accumulation
on this piece of land.
Chairman Morson stated that it is hard for
the City to decide on this drainage issue
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because there are no contours available with
the plans. He wanted to know from Mr. Birch,
that as you go east on the property where is
the drainage. Mr. Birch responded that he
has shown two foot (2') increments on a
drawing that he had with him at the meeting
to show the topography. Mr. Birch stated
that the land drains to the south and to the
east.
Chairman Morson asked if there was a need for
the pond as shown on the drawing. Mr. Birch
stated that it is aesthetic only and that he
thought it could be landscaped in an
attractive manner.
Commissioner Duggan asked the applicant what
is to be done with the land after the
subdivision. Mr. Birch stated that is not a
concern of his at the present time.
Commissioner Duggan asked where will Dr.
Koepke's exit and entrance be for the
addition. He stated that his concern was the
closeness of the entrance to Dodd Road.
Commissioner Duggan stated that the turn is
very close to Dodd Road and could be a
traffic problem. Mr. Birch responded that
he didn't believe this would pose a problem
because the entrance to the addition would be
far enough from the intersection that there
would be no problem with the turn radius.
Commissioner Krebsbach asked about the
Highway right-of-way and when that land could
be vacated. Chairman Morson asked is there
any news from the State Highway Department
about this issue. Planning Consultant Howard
Dahlgren responded that the City did a study
of the right-of-way and the options involved
for handling the right-of-way five to six
years ago. Planner Dahlgren gave a brief
history of the right-of-way acquisition and
stated that when 1-35E was built Dodd Road
was never upgraded as there was not a need
for duplicate highways. Planner Dahlgren
stated that the MnDot traffic study showed
Dodd Road would be less than 10,000 trips per
day. He stated that MnDot felt that Dodd
Road should be left alone and not realigned.
Planner Dahlgren stated that, however
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development in Eagan may change this
view point. In time traffic on Dodd Road may
dramatically increase. MnDot is still
thinking of releasing the right-of-way stated
Planner Dahlgren. Planner Dahlgren stated
that Mr. Birch would have a finer piece of
land if the land is released. He stated that
at this point you really can't plan the land
until it is released. Planner Dahlgren
stated that the land is zoned B-2 to the
center line so that if the land is turned
back you would have business on the west side
of a Dodd Road realignment and on the east
side you would have a low intensity use
zoning.
Planner Dahlgren stated to the Planning
Commission that the parcel you are creating
is too small as a single lot and therefore
must be an addition. If, however, the plat
is approved you may be approving the addition
that Dr. Koepke will be coming forward with.
Planner Dahlgren stated that he felt this
addition should go through its own
conditional use permit process.
Chairman Morson question Mr. Dahlgren about
the traffic on Freeway Road and the proposed
entrance along Freeway Road. Planner
Dahlgren responded that it would be better to
have the entrance to the addition off of
Freeway Road. There is potential for traffic
problems if the addition's entrance is used
on Dodd Road.
Chairman Morson stated that he felt questions
about the addition's entrance and other
factors regarding the addition are probably
questions more appropriate for Dr. Koepke's
conditional use permit hearing.
Commissioner Koll stated that she had a
concern about the drainage. She asked the
questions who would have the responsibility
for excess water if it pooled in the area?
Commissioner Koll stated that this was a
concern of hers particularly when the
building and the parking lot create
additional drainage and runoff and take away
ability of the land to absorb water. Mr.
Birch responded that he has proposed on his
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plans that the City put in a culvert across
Freeway Road if it is needed.
Chairman Morson asked Acting City
Administrator Danielson; if this triangular
parcel, which is 10,622 square feet, is a
drainage problem. Mr. Danielson responded
that it is not a large problem, however, if
there is silt in with the storm water over
the years the ponding ability may decrease to
the point that excess water may accumulate to
the point that it may go across the road to
the north. Mr. Danielson stated that it is
our preference to have it go to the east.
Mr. Danielson stated that it is not a
significant problem.
Commissioner Duggan stated the road is eight
feet (8') above the property. Acting City
Administrator Danielson stated that the
amount of land draining into the area is
small and therefore the concern about
drainage is not significant. He stated
however, that there may be drainage onto
Freeway Road or Dodd Road if the ability of
the land to absorb the water is decreased by
silt build up.
Commissioner Koll asked if the water drains
to the west or to the east. Mr. Danielson
stated that the water should go east and then
under Highway 110 as it slopes south.
Mr. Birch stated that the City is using the
property to the east for a fill. He stated
that this should be in the comprehensive plan
for the entire area. Commissioner Koll
stated that she wished to raise her question
again, who has responsibility for the
drainage on the triangular piece if there is
a problem. Mr. Birch responded that it was
the City's fault for constructing the road
fifteen feet (15') onto his property. He
stated that the City made the road far above
the elevation of the lay of the land. He
stated that any water problems were created
when the City built this road and that this
road caused the drainage to across his
property.
Chairman Morson stated that the plan that he
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had has two different legal descriptions. He
asked Mr. Birch which was the accurate one.
Mr. Birch stated that there was a more
detailed legal description available and he
showed the Planning Commission which of the
legal descriptions he had provided was the
accurate one.
Chairman Morson stated that it was imperative
that a registered surveyor must do the
platting for a subdivision. Chairman Morson
asked if there was anyone in the audience who
wished to speak to this subdivision issue.
There was no one in the audience who wished
to address the Planning Commission.
Chairman Morson stated that now we should
consider item two of your agenda. That being
the plans that show the potential future
development including the right-of-way.
Mr. Birch gave an explanation of the options
of the land including the right-of-way,
potential zonings and potential developments.
Mr. Birch stated that he has written the
State a formal letter to reacquire his
property on a right-of-way give back. Mr.
Birch stated that at this point he wanted the
minutes to reflect that he is requesting that
the City reply in a formal letter. to Mr.
Birch that the City tell him what the plans
are for the use of the property the City has
to the east of the right-of-way which they
are currently using for a fill. Mr. Birch
also stated that he wanted the minutes to
reflect that the Highway 110 frontage road is
built on his property.
Commissioner Duggan queried about the
potential of a new over-cross of Highway 110
where the right-of-way exists. Chairman
Morson responded that it is probably not an
appropriate discussion matter for tonight's
meeting. Commissioner Duggan asked that if
the right-of-way give back doesn't happen
would Mr. Birch be comfortable with the slim
lot that is left of his property. Mr. Birch
responded that yes he has many ideas
depending on the zoning of the land.
Planning Consultant Howard Dahlgren stated
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NAYS: 0
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that his firm has done a study that suggests
that if the right -of -way is left alone, the
City would benefit greatly with an overpass
for cars and the bike path. He also stated
that this would also benefit the shopping
center to the south of Highway 110. Planner
Dahlgren stated that in the scenario it would
release a major portion of the right -of -way
but it would also put a nice road in for Mr.
Birch's property.
Planner Dahlgren also responded to Mr.
Birch's claim that the east side of the
right -of -way has the road on his property.
Planner Dahlgren stated that MnDot has this
land as a part of their right -of -way and this
is not a problem. Planner Dahlgren stated
for the applicant's information, that a
right -of -way give back is not really a give
back, that land must be bought back for a
price from the State of Minnesota. Planner
Dahlgren also stated that part of the right -
of -way may be kept for a local overpass. He
felt that the City would benefit greatly from
this overpass. Planner Dahlgren also stated
that he doesn't think single family
residential is the proper land use for this
parcel of land.
Commissioner Duggan moved to close the public
hearing.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
Planning Consultant Dahlgren stated that
before the Planning Commission can recommend
approval on the variance it must be applied
for by the applicant. He also stated that
the use of the land Dr. Koepke's addition
would need a conditional use permit and that
this should be processed on its own merits.
After some discussion Planner Dahlgren stated
that the Planning Commission can recommend
approval of the land division and the
variance but the conditional use permit can
and should be done at a latter Planning
Commission hearing. Planner Dahlgren stated
that there is no zoning involved here, that
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this is not a problem, however, he stated
that the planning application reflects that a
rezoning is considered. He stated that this
should be pointed out to the City Council
that this is not a rezoning matter before the
Planning Commission tonight.
Commissioner Koll asked Acting City
Administrator James Danielson if there was a
problem with drainage. Mr. Danielson
responded that there is some confusion over
the ponding in the drainage area and that the
major portion of the confusion was over who
should pay for it. He stated that the City's
past practice is to have the developer pay
for it or the land owner be assessed for it.
Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend
preliminary plat approval of drawing one
conditioned on having an update with an
official survey. He stated that the survey
should have two parts included in it. These
two parts should be :
1. That Dr. Koepke's new lot should be
shown as one lot with a proper legal
description; and
2. That Mr. Birch's remaining land be shown
as one lot on the survey with a proper legal
description.
Commission Duggan also moved that a proper
drainage plan be submitted with the final
plans showing contours so that the City
Council can properly address the drainage
issue. Commissioner Duggan also moved that
the fifteen foot (15') rear yard setback
variance be granted as a result of plat
approval.
Commissioner Krebsbach seconded the motion.
The Planning Commission stated for the record
that the drawing they were recommending
approval on were the large drawing dated 11-
28-89 and drawing number one in the
application packet. The Planning Commission
also stated that the minutes should reflect
that the check off on the application filed
by Mr. Birch shows a rezoning, however, they
want to make it clear that no rezoning is
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considered at this time.
As a body, the Planning Commission added an
amendment to the motion stating that their
action tonight is only on the subdivision,
and that no action is taken on any rezoning.
Any action regarding a rezoning or future
subdivision of the right-of-way would have to
occur at a public hearing at a separate
Planning Commission meeting as a separate
application.
Chairman Morson stated that any other
discussion of the easterly property will be
at a later date as a separate planning
consideration.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
CASE NO. 89-34 Commissioner Krebsbach questioned the
MINNESOTA INDOOR statute of limitations on an application
SOCCER & TRAIN. being sixty (60) days.
AMEND. TO ZONING sixty (60) days.
ORD & CUP -
(HEARING)
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
CASE NO. 89-40
FRYE - CAO
VARIANCE -
(HEARING)
Planner Dahlgren replied that in this case
that the applicant is requesting the tabling
and that the applicant has the right to do
that indefinitely.
Commissioner Krebsbach moved to continue the
public hearing until the January Planning
Commission meeting.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
Ms. Amy Wadsworth, an Attorney representing
the Katz's (neighbors of the Frye's),
requested that the meeting be continued
because the Katz's could not be present
tonight. She stated that the Katz's had
submitted a letter to the Acting City
Administrator asking for this continuance.
Acting City Administrator Danielson responded
that he had received a letter. Mr. Danielson
stated that the only person who can request a
continuance is the applicant themselves.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
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Ms. Wadsworth submitted an exhibit to the
Commission that shows a photo of the property
and the view.
Chairman Morson asked the Frye's if there was
anything to be added to their request. He
stated that they were ready to act on the
request tonight. Commissioner Duggan stated
that he was also prepared to act and he asked
if it would be acceptable to the Frye's to
continue until January. Mr. Frye stated that
he has no reason for wishing a continuance.
Commissioner Krebsbach asked how far the
footings are from the bluffline. Chairman
Morson responded that the building addition
extends forty-one feet (41') from the present
house.
Commissioner Koll moved to close the public
hearing.
Commissioner Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Commissioner Koll stated that there must be a
need to show hardship. Commissioner Koll
stated that this need should not be contrary
to the public interest. She stated that
after much deliberation she feels approving
the request is a violation of the intent of
the Critical Area Ordinance. She stated the
following reasons that support her intent to
deny the request for the variance. The
following reasons are stated in Ordinance 403
Section 2.5e, Section 2.5g, Section 4.1b and
Section 5.4 subsections a,b,c,d,e and g.
Section 2.5e
The development is consistent with the
reasonable preservation of the view of the
river corridor from other properties and by
the public and the walling off of views of
the river corridor from other properties and
public right-of-ways has been minimized.
Section 2.5q
The development shall be located in such
a manner as to minimize the removal of
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vegetation and alteration of the natural
topography, however, in no case shall the
following standards be exceeded:
1. No building or structure shall be
located within forty (40) feet of the bluff
line.
2. No finished grades shall exceed a
slop of forty percent (40%).
Section 4.1b
Existing Structures. Existing
structures the location, or the use of which
is inconsistent with this Ordinance or the
Critical Areas Designation Order shall not be
eligible for any permit granted by the City
for expansion, change of use, renewal of
existing permit, or building permit, unless
the following criteria are met:
b. Expansion of existing structures
shall be in the direction away from the river
front.
Section 5.4 - A,B,C,D,E and G
Variance Approval Standards. In
considering applications for variance under
this Ordinance, the Council shall consider
the advice and recommendations of the
Planning Commission and may grant variance
from the strict application of the provisions
of this Critical Area Overlay District
Ordinance and impose conditions and
safeguards in the variances so granted,
provided the following additional criteria
shall be considered:
a. The conditions causing the hardship
are unique to that property.
b. The variance is proved necessary
in order to secure for the applicant the
right or rights that are enjoyed by other
owners in the same area of the district.
c. The granting of the variance will
not be contrary to the public interest or
damaging to the rights of other persons or to
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NAYS: 0
VERBAL REVIEW
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property values in the neighborhood.
d. The granting of the variance will
not be contrary to the management policies of
the Critical Area.
e. No variance shall be granted simply
because there are no objections or because
those who do not object outnumber those who
do; nor for any other reason other than a
proven hardship.
g. The conditions which result in the
need for the variance were not created by
the applicants design solution. The
applicant shall have the burden of proof for
showing that no other reasonable design
solution exists.
Commissioner Koll moved to recommend to the
City Council that the request for Critical
Area Ordinance Variance be denied based on
her stated findings of fact.
Commissioner Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Commissioner Duggan wanted the record to
reflect that his specific objection is not
the obstruction to the neighbors, which he
feels is not significant, it is just that the
applicants are requesting to build too close
to the bluff line.
Commissioner Duggan stated that his main
objection is that it could not be redesigned
to be a little further back from the bluff.
Commissioner Koll submitted some photos of
both the Frye and Katz properties for the
public record.
Acting City Administrator James Danielson
gave a verbal review to the Planning
Commission on City Council action on Planning
items.
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ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Dreelan moved to adjourn the
meeting at 9:10 o'clock P.M.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
Respectfully submitted,
Kevin Batchelder
Administrative Assistant