1990-01-23 Planning Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES, JANUARY 23, 1990
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning
Commission was held on Tuesday, January 23, 1990, in the City
Hall Council Chambers, 1101 Victoria Curve. Chairman Morson
called the meeting to order at 7:32 o'clock P.M. The
following members were present: Morson, Koll, Dwyer,
Dreelan, Duggan and Tilsen.. Commissioner Krebsbach was
excused. Also present were Public Works Director Danielson
and Planning Consultant Howard Dahlgren.
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
CASE NO. 90-01
POSTHUMUS -
VARIANCE
Commissioner Duggan moved approval of the
December 26, 1989 minutes.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
Mr. Bruce Posthumus, 540 West Annapolis
Street, presented his request for a front yard
setback variance. He stated that he would
like to upgrade his existing house by
constructing a second story addition. He
submitted pictures of the existing structure
for the Commission to review.
In response to a question from Chairman
Morson, Mr. Posthumus explained that he had
obtained signatures of consent from all his
contiguous neighbors. He further explained
the reason why he did not obtain signatures of
consent from the neighbors to the east. Mr.
Posthumus stated that he had obtained a CUP to
construct a garage last year and he had
initially gotten permission from his neighbors
to the east. He stated that they ran into
problems and they withdrew their consent when
he started construction. He stated that he
had to go back and modify the plans. He
stated that rather than obtaining the
consent himself, given the situation,
he felt that the City should contact them. He
further stated that it was his understanding
with Howard Dahlgren, Paul Berg and the City
Administrator that they were going to contact
his neighbors.
Public Works Director Jim Danielson stated
that he has not contacted the people and that
he was unsure if Kevin Batchelder,
Administrative Assistant, did or not.
Chairman Morson commented that this matter is
not a public hearing.
In response to a question from Commissioner
Dwyer, Mr. Posthumus stated that he has no
knowledge of whether the neighbors know about
his proposed addition. He stated that it is
possible that they have heard about the
addition from his other neighbors.
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Chairman Morson stated that the addition will
be on the west side of Mr. Posthumus' property
and that it would not really be significant to
his neighbors on the east. Mr. Posthumus
agreed. Mr. Posthumus stated that they might
see a change in the roof line. He stated that
the second story addition would only be
visible to them from the street.
Commissioner Tilsen asked if the peak of the
existing house will be extended or will it
have a different pitch. Mr. Posthumus stated
that over the center portion of the house the
roof will be reconstructed along with the
existing roof line except over the front part
of the house. Mr. Posthumus stated that the
gable roof (viewed from the front of the home)
will remain.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that the Commission
should be clear in their intention that the
addition is to be used as living space and not
a garage.
In response to a question from Commissioner
Duggan, Mr. Posthumus reiterated that he was
not trying to keep his addition a secret from
his neighbors to the east. He stated that it
would be best that he not contact them based
on what happened when he applied for the CUP
last year.
Commissioner Koll asked if there are any water
problems. She stated that the garage is close
to the street and she wondered about the snow
plows in the winter time. Mr. Posthumus
stated that the water problem was rectified
with the construction of the new garage.
Commissioner Koll asked if there was a concern
with the living quarters being so close to the
street. Mr. Posthumus answered that the
street is one block long and that there is
minimal traffic. Commissioner Koll questioned
if the house, in the future, would ever be
connected to the garage. Mr. Posthumus said
no and that it would be virtually impossible.
Commissioner Dwyer asked if he was going to
raze the existing garage and Mr. Posthumus
answered no. He stated that they will build
on top of the existing structure.
Commissioner Dwyer moved to recommend to the
City Council that they approve a 28.1 foot
front yard setback variance conditioned upon
proof of notice of the easterly neighbors so
that they can appear at the time of the City
Council meeting, if they wish, and that the
structure be built and used for residential
purposes.
Commissioner Tilsen seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
CASE NO. 89-34
MENDOTA HTS
ANIMAL HOSPI-
TAL (HEARING)
January 23, 1990
Page 3
Chairman Morson directed Public Works Director
Jim Danielson to inform Mr. Posthumus'
neighbors to the east.
Chairman Morson opened the meeting at 7:58
o'clock P.M. for the purpose of a public
hearing to discuss a request from Dr. Tom
Koepke of the Mendota Heights Animal Hospital
for a CUP for an animal hospital expansion.
Dr. Tom Koepke, Mendota Heights Animal
Hospital, was present to discuss his request
for a CUP to construct an addition to his
clinic. Dr. Koepke introduced to the
Commission Mr. Langer, Langer Construction
Company, who was present to answer any
technical questions.
Public Works Director Jim Danielson confirmed
that hearing notices had been sent to the
neighbors of the Animal Hospital. Dr. Koepke
stated that he had made an effort over the
last two months to let everybody know what he
is doing.
Dr. Koepke stated that he understands the
concern expressed in the planning reports
about parking. He stated that the nature of
his business just doesn't cause a problem with
parking. He stated that at this time, the
grooming facility and the hospital all enter
off of Dodd Road. He explained that the
grooming facility will be moved over to the
other side and that should cut in half the
parking. He stated that they would be better
off with that move.
In response to a question from Commissioner
Dreelan, Dr. Koepke stated that the new
entrance off of Freeway Road will be strictly
used for the grooming facility. He stated
that the parking lot on that side will be
strictly for the grooming clients except for
the mobile veterinary van - if in fact they
ever get that unit. Dr. Koepke further stated
that the other people who would come for
surgeries or boarding would all use the Dodd
Road exit. He stated that the animal hospital
would not use the Freeway Road entrance.
Commissioner Dreelan stated the she feels that
the design of the new building looks like an
army barracks. She stated that she would like
to see the roof line brought down so that the
addition would not look so square and that she
had some concern on how the windows are
situated. Dr. Koepke stated that he thought
the windows on the brick broke up the
building. He further commented that the
existing building is square and that is the
cheapest way to build and that you get the
most utilization of space using that design.
Dr. Koepke stated that he hopes the trees
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right in front of the building will help break
up that look.
Dr. Koepke stated that he has contacted a
landscaper with regards to planting Blue
Spruce trees. He stated that he hopes that
will help break up the look of the addition.
Commissioner Dwyer asked Dr. Koepke if he has
received any comments from the neighbors. Dr.
Koepke responded that he has not.
Commissioner Duggan asked if it would be
possible to consider bringing the windows
together on the top story so that there are
larger windows. He stated that would be more
appropriate in design of the neighborhood.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that what they
would like to see is a more residential look
to the building. Dr. Koepke stated that they
could make windows larger and do the windows
every other one instead of having no windows.
He stated that he has no problem with cutting
out one half of the windows - it is feasible.
Commissioner Duggan noticed a requirement in
the ordinance requiring precast roof.
Dr. Koepke stated that in his existing
building he doesn't have a precast roof.
Commissioner Duggan questioned if there have
been any complaints about noise. Dr. Koepke
stated that on the existing building they have
insulated every single inside wall. He stated
that has worked out great. Dr. Koepke stated
that he knows that is the ordinance but that
he didn't do that on the original building.
Planner Dahlgren stated that a precast roof is
for noise abatement and that a wood roof could
be designed to abate the sound as well as a
precast concrete roof.
Public Works Director stated that the
Commission should waive the requirement of a
precast roof as the existing building does not
have a precast roof.
Commissioner Duggan asked if this was just
something that slipped through the cracks when
the initial building was built. Dr. Koepke
answered yes.
In response to a question from Commissioner
Duggan, Mr. Langer responded that estimated
time of construction would be about four
months. He further commented on the noise
factor that the sound transfer range for that
composite roof would be very close or
equivalent to a precast roof.
In response to a question raised by the
Commission, Planner Dahlgren stated that the
total parking spaces is eighteen plus two
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
January 23, 1990
Page 5, 1990
double garages which is four more totalling
twenty-two. He commented that they didn't
know the exact square footage of the new
building in terms of the floor area. Dr.
Koepke responded that what he has total in the
animal hospital right now is 5,860 square feet
including the addition. Planner Dahlgren
stated that the total parking on the site
would seem to total twenty-two spaces.
There was a brief discussion on the total
square footage of the building.
Dr. Koepke stated that if the clinic were
sold, it would be tough to convert the
building into office space due to the
uniqueness in the building's design. He
stated that it would be highly unlikely that
it would ever be used for anything else.
Commissioner Tilsen had some concern with the
driveway entrance off of Freeway Road. Dr.
Koepke stated that they moved the entrance as
far back as they could. Commissioner Tilsen
questioned whether the entrance could be moved
east to ten feet from the property line. He
stated that there might be better movement
of the cars within the parking lot. Mr.
Langer commented that if they do what
Commissioner Tilsen is suggesting, it would
make a relatively steep slope down into the
parking lot. Mr. Langer stated that at the
time of the final grading, they will try and
move the entrance as far east as possible and
still have a reasonable slope so it is not
slippery.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that he is
concerned with cars backing out and cars
entering all at the same time. Mr. Langer
commented that they are always very sensitive
to the north side of the building because of
ice.
In response to a question from Commissioner
Dwyer, Dr. Koepke stated that there are about
12 to 15 cars per day. He stated that the
traffic is sporadic.
Chairman Morson noted that there was no one
present in the audience for the public
hearing.
Commissioner Dwyer moved to close the public
hearing.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
Commissioner Tilsen moved to recommend to the
City Council that they approve a CUP to allow
the animal hospital to expand according to the
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
RESCHEDULING
OF FEBRUARY
1990 MEETING
CASE NO. 89-34
MIST - AMEND.
TO ZONING ORD.
& CUP
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
KENSINGTON
PUD DIS-
CUSSION
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Page 6
plans submitted subject to the building design
look residential in character and look at
moving the driveway 10 feet east of the
property line.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
Commissioner Koll questioned the drainage
proposal. Dr. Koepke responded that he will
do whatever the City wants.
There was a brief discussion on the parking
lot and entrance off of Freeway Road. Planner
Dahlgren stated that he is concerned about the
motive for moving the driveway further east
because it will do two negative things. He
stated that the further east you move it the
steeper the driveway gets. He further stated
that if you move the driveway further east you
will lose a parking space or make it very
difficult to get to the westerly most spot.
He stated that the distance from the driveway
to Dodd Road is adequate for the amount of
traffic that is entering and leaving this
facility.
Commissioner Dreelan withdrew her second to
the motion and offered a friendly amendment
stating that the driveway be moved easterly as
far as possible and to waive the ordinance
requirement for a precast roof.
Commissioner Dwyer seconded the motion.
Due to February 27, 1990 being precinct
caucus night, the Planning Commission meeting
scheduled for that night must be changed as
the two meetings cannot coincide. It was the
concensus of the Commission to reschedule the
February meeting to Wednesday, February 28,
1990 at 7:30 o'clock P.M.
Commissioner Duggan moved to continue the
public hearing to February 28, 1990 at 8:00
o'clock P.M.
Commissioner Dwyer seconded the motion.
There was a lengthy discussion regarding the
status and future schedule for Kensington PUD.
A letter from Mr. Richard Putnam of the Tandem
Corporation was submitted to the Commission
previous to tonight's meeting for their
review. The letter submitted was a suggested
tentative schedule for review of the
Kensington PUD by City Council, Planning
Commission and the Parks and Recreation
Commission. It was the concensus of the
Commission that any member could attend the
tour and informal discussion of Kensington and
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Park project on Saturday, February 3rd from
8:00 A.M. to 10:00 A.M. It was noted that all
Commissioners, Council and interested citizens
are welcome. There was a brief discussion
regarding a tentative work session scheduled
during a regularly scheduled Parks and
Recreation Commission meeting for Tuesday,
February 13th that the Planning Commission has
been invited to attend to discuss the
Kensington and Park Project.
VERBAL REVIEW Public Works Director Jim Danielson gave a
verbal review to the Planning Commission on
City Council action on Planning items.
MENDOTA HTS Dr. Koepke interjected that he was attempting
ANIMAL HOSP. to purchase more land from Brian Birch but the
Mr. Birch was unwilling to see more land to
him at this time. Dr. Koepke told the.
Commission that he would continue in his
efforts and that this extra land, when
obtained, could be made available for parking
spaces.
ADJOURN
Commissioner Koll moved to adjourn to February
13, 1990 joint work session with the Parks and
Recreation Commission at 7:00 P.M. It was
also noted that Planner Dahlgren and Chairman
Morson would not be attending the work
session.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
ABSTAIN: 1, Morson
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT 9:35 o'clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary