1992-10-27 Planning Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION
OCTOBER 27, 1992
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was
held on Tuesday, October 27, 1992, in the City Hall Council
Chambers, 1101 Victoria Curve. The meeting was called to order at
7:30 o'clock P.M. The following members were present: Koll,
Friel, Dwyer, Krebsbach, Tilsen. Commissioners Dreelan and Duggan
were excused. Also present were Public Works Director Jim
Danielson, Planning Consultant John Uban, Administrative Assistant
Kevin Batchelder and Senior Secretary Kim Blaeser.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Tilsen moved approval of the September 22,
1992, Minutes.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
ABSTAIN: 1, FRIEL
Commissioner
1992, Joint
Minutes.
Commissioner
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
ABSTAIN: 1, FRIEL
HEARING:
CASE NO.
MAZZARA -
SOMERSET
92-31:
PLACE PUD
Tilsen moved approval of the September 29,
City Council/Planning Commission Workshop
Koll seconded the motion.
Chair Dwyer briefly explained that the applicant, Mr.
Gerald Mazzara, had been before the Planning Commission
on September 22, 1992 with a preapplication discussion of
the Somerset Place Planned Unit Development (PUD). He
stated the applicant is proposing to subdivide a 10 acre
parcel into three single family lots with a common outlot
designated as Wetlands.
Mr. Gerald Mazzara, representing both the owner and
buyer, was present to discuss the proposed PUD. He
explained he held a meeting with the adjacent neighbors
about two weeks prior to the Planning Commission to
discuss the proposal.
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Mr. Mazzara explained plan changes as originally
discussed at the preapplication meeting. He stated the
location of vegetation has been identified along with the
three building pads. He stated the south site has been
moved towards the wetlands away from the east property
line which should help protect the view of the adjoining
Garrett property on the east. He stated there is new
plantings that are proposed which will enhance the buffer
zone from the east and south.
Mr. Mazzara explained that 10,000 square feet has been
reserved for each site for on site septic systems. He
stated he has provided results of the soil boring tests
to the City and Planning Commission. He stated that once
the PUD has been approved, each site will be tested by a
well company. He further stated he would provide a
wetland boundary map once the PUD has been approved.
Mr. Mazzara discussed public road access. He stated a
superblock plan does not exist at this time. He stated
it would be inappropriate to bring a public road through
this development. He further stated he has prepared
several concept plans for public roads in the area, as a
possibility. He submitted the plans to the Planning
Commission. He stated the land in the area could be
served with public or private roads. He stated there
seems to be opposition to public roads in this area. He
further stated the property owners within the Superblock
area have not seen the proposed concept plans. He stated
he is only submitting these plans as a point of reference
and information to the Planning Commission and property
owners in the area.
Mr. Mazzara stated he would provide home owners
association documents and covenants to the City Council
prior to final approval of the plat. He stated, at this
time, a draft copy has been prepared.
Mr. Mazzara noted the recommendation, by the Parks
Commission, was to provide additional platted right-of-
way and trail easement along Wentworth and through the
wetland area. He stated this is something they would not
like to do. He stated that if a park plan was approved
by the residents in the area, then they would be willing
to provide an easement for the entire superblock area.
Commissioner Tilsen stated a more precise wetlands
boundary survey map should be provided to the City. He
stated the wetlands could be in jeopardy if they were
, ) larger area than indicated on the map. He stated
preserving the wetlands area is an important issue and he
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would be inclined to not recommend approval of the
request if the wetlands are further encroached upon.
Mr. Mazzara responded if the Planning Commission
recommends approval, he would be willing to have the
wetlands reviewed by a biologist.
Commissioner Krebsbach inquired if the proposed septic
system is adequate for the size of lots proposed. She
inquired as to what Dakota County's standards are. She
further noted her concerns for the amount of grading
which will occur for this development. Mr. Mazzara
responded City staff has reviewed the grading plans and
there seems to be no problem. He further stated he feels
confident that the size of lots for the septic systems is
adequate. He stated he would be willing to validate his
confidence with Dakota County. Planner Uban stated he
would like to see refinement of both the grading and
septic field plans.
Chair Dwyer stated the integrity of the wetlands is a
real concern and maybe a scenic easement could be agreed
upon with the ultimate buyers of the property. Planner
Uban responded a scenic easement could be done within the
PUD. He stated there are several elements related to
this plan which are sensitive. Mr. Mazzara stated he has
no problem with helping define the wetlands area.
Commissioner Friel stated his concerns for the use of
private roads in this area. He stated most private roads
are not maintained properly and there could be public
safety access problems. He noted the inconsistency in
the proposed right-of-way on the plans and what is
actually required within the Subdivision Ordinance.
Commissioner Friel stated the Subdivision Ordinance
requires a thirty foot right-of-way and the proposed
development indicates a twenty foot right-of-way. Mr.
Mazzara responded he was not aware of the restriction.
He further stated the proposed road width was determined
based on preserving the evergreens in the area. He
stated they can do a thirty foot right-of-way.
In response to a question from Commissioner Friel, Chair
Dwyer stated there is no sanitary sewer service
available. Mr. Mazzara stated there will be well service
on site.
Commissioner Koll stated she has concerns for drainage
and the location of septic systems next to the wetlands.
She further stated the Fire Marshal should be given an
opportunity to review and approve road access. She
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stated she has no problem with the development of a
private road.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
John Bradford, 1673 Delaware Avenue, inquired as to how
the superblock would have evolved had Mr. Mazzara been
approved earlier. He questioned how the three new
landowners of the Harris property would be a part of the
superblock study. Chair Dwyer responded each property
owner is protecting their rights as a landowner and that
Mr. Bradford's point is well taken.
Planner Uban stated a meeting of the superblock residents
is scheduled for November 9, 1992. He stated the
scheduled meeting begins the process of planning the
superblock area. He stated the need for roads, parks and
utilities will be researched. He stated the City is
looking for ideas from property owners regarding their
long term potential for subdividing their parcels. He
further stated he is only able to give recommendations to
the City Council.
Commissioner Friel stated the plan for the superblock
area is "just a plan". He stated it will require
cooperation from all of the land owners in this area.
Tom Garrett, 540 Wentworth Avenue, stated he has known
Mr. Harris for some time. He stated that by constructing
a public road through this area would ruin the properties
and jeopardize the wetlands area. He stated by creating
a road and having an access point off of Wentworth Avenue
would create a dangerous intersection. He stated it
would be nice to see the Harris property remain as is but
he understands Mr. Harris' right to sell and develop his
land. He stated if the property is to be developed, he
would like to see the development of the property kept
consistent with the existing neighborhood.
Commissioner Koll concurred with Mr. Garrett stating it
would be nice to keep this territory preserved. She
stated again she is not opposed to constructing a private
road.
Mr. Mazzara stated he designed concepts to show possible
ideas for developing public roads in this area. He
stated at a meeting, held by him with the property owners
of the superblock area two weeks earlier, some property
owners expressed their ideas for developing their land
and other property owners stated they had no intentions
of developing their property.
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Mr. Mazzara reviewed Plan A which represented a loop road
with 19 lots; Plan B showing two acre lots giving plenty
of room for on site septic systems and road access off of
Marie exiting onto Delaware Avenue; Plan C showing
another loop concept with 9 large lots; Plan D showing a
700 foot cul-de-sac and Plan E showing an enhanced cul-
de-sac with a larger turn around. He reiterated to the
Commission and property owners present at the meeting
that these plans are all just ideas.
Chair Dwyer stated the concept plans, as proposed by Mr.
Mazzara, seemed to implicate the Bradford property. Mr.
Mazzara responded it seemed the Bradford's may have a
future interest in developing their land and he was only
trying to accommodate their plans for the future. He
stated he prepared these plans based on what he had heard
and discussed at the meeting held two weeks.
Mr. Bradford stated the City has been given ideas in the
past for development of property in the superblock and
the ideas were not acted upon. He further stated the
proposed concept plans Mr. Mazzara presented tonight
reflect no consultation time with him.
Commissioner Krebsbach inquired what feelings were
generated for the construction of a public road through
the property at the neighborhood meeting. Mr. Garrett
responded no one wants a road through the property.
Ted Weyerhaeuser, 610 Wentworth Avenue, stated he owns 10
acres of land within the superblock area. He stated he
is against having any roads constructed through this
area. He stated his land is low and good for wildlife.
In response to a question from Commissioner Friel, Mr.
Mazzara stated the proposed plan submitted for review is
intended to be a preliminary plat.
Mr. Mazzara stated his concerns for public right-of-way
of 60 feet stating tree preservation is an issue. He
stated the private road is a part of the preliminary plat
and with this concept, the Garrett property is protected
from significant traffic.
Commissioner Tilsen stated the private road concept is
acceptable. He stated wetland encroachment is a concern.
He reiterated is concerns for placement of the wetlands
as submitted on the plans by Mr. Mazzara. He further
stated private sewer systems are fine, if they are
considered temporary. He stated he would like to
consider another way of handling the sewer system due to
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the life expectancy of on site septic systems. He
discussed the possibility of public road and utilities
construction in the next twenty to thirty years. He
further suggested an easement be provided on the south
property line for future septic system replacement.
Planner Uban stated an on site septic system can last
forever if properly maintained. He stated the City of
North Oaks has been using on site septic systems since
the 1950's. He stated the City of North Oaks enforces
very specific rules in maintaining the on site systems.
He further stated the County and Metropolitan Council
require 5 to 10 acres for on site septic systems.
The Commission briefly discussed gas and electric utility
services in the area of the superblock.
Relating to the private road vs public road concern,
Commissioner Friel stated it is necessary to provide the
appropriate width for right-of-way because in the future,
he does not want to jeopardize the maintenance of the
roadway with the possible changes of ownership in the
area. He further stated his concerns for maintenance and
public safety.
In response to a question from Commissioner Krebsbach
regarding the location of fire hydrants and fire safety,
Public Works Director Danielson stated the City of
Sunfish Lake does not have fire hydrants and the Mendota
Heights Fire Department provides fire service to this
City by using their tanker trucks. He stated the City's
Fire Department is prepared to handle fire safety
questions.
Commissioner Tilsen stated an accurate wetlands boundary
survey should be updated. He further stated the trail
system should be reviewed further as per the Parks
Commission recommendation. He further stated the on site
septic systems is a real issue and an easement along the
south property line should be considered for future
septic system maintenance. He stated a public right-of-
way should be provided without detriment to the proposed
plan. He suggested a 60 foot right-of-way could serve
Lot 3 through Lots 1 and 2 without the road being
centered in the right-of-way.
Commissioner Friel concurred with Commissioner Tilsen in
stating that an accurate wetlands boundary survey should
be updated. He further stated the on site septic systems
should be researched further to provide more room. He
further stated he would like to see documents regarding
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the convenants. He further suggested research in
providing public access be done.
Commissioner Krebsbach moved to continue the public
hearing until November 24, 1992 at 7:30 o'clock P.M.
Commissioner Friel seconded the motion.
Mr. Mazzara stated a soil borings test was completed for
this property. He stated there is a time problem in that
the sale of the property is conditioned on the approval
of this request. He stated if required, the trail system
will be done. He further stated that normally the
convenants are reviewed at the time of the final plat
process. He stated they are trying to avoid the public
right-of-way and he will provide and sanitary sewer
easement.
Mr. Garrett stated he objects to the required 60 foot
public right-of-way in that many trees will be lost and
that it will diminish property values significantly.
Mr. Mazzara stated the neighbors in the area are happy
with the proposal and does not understand why there are
so many objections from the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Friel responded the Planning Commission
enforces the City's Zoning Ordinance and is only trying
to abide by the requirements of the Ordinance. He stated
the Planning Commission is not in the position of
carrying out recommendations not based on the Zoning
Ordinance.
Mr. Thomas Hu, potential buyer of the property in
question, stated he feels they are trying to provide the
neighborhood with a well designed project that will blend
in.
Alice Bradford, 1673 Delaware Avenue, stated she owns
five acres of land next to the proposed subdivision. She
stated if the City plans to put a road through it would
help her land. She stated if a road comes through the
side of the land to Delaware it will be very steep. She
further stated a road in between the houses is not a good
idea and she is not in favor of the project.
VOTE ON THE MOTION:
AYES: 3
NAYS: 2, ROLL, DWYER
October 27, 1992
Page
CASE NO. 92-33:
MCGUIRE -
VARIANCE
Mr. Timothy McGuire, 30 Dorset Road, was present to
discuss his request for side yard setback variance to
allow the construction of an attached garage and an
addition.
Chair Dwyer stated the Planning Commission received the
sketches and signatures of consent from the property
owners.
Commissioner Tilsen stated Mr. McGuire's corner lot width
is less than the required 100 foot lot width as it was
platted in the 1940's.
Commissioner Koll stated the proposed plan fits the
neighborhood well and she approves of the request as she
considers it an asset to the area.
Mr. McGuire stated he has not yet decided if he will
remove the sidewalk leading to Dorset or if he will
replace it. He further stated he would like his address
to stay as it is on Dorset and that the driveway will be
removed.
Chair Dwyer moved to waive the public hearing.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
Chair Dwyer moved to recommend that the City Council
grant a four and one half foot (4' 5") side yard setback
variance allowing the new garage addition to be built as
proposed on the site plans as submitted conditioned upon
the removal of the old driveway and replace it with sod.
He further noted the applicant should use his discretion
in preserving the sidewalk.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
October 27, 1992
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HEARING:
CASE NO. 92-32:
THE NORTHLAND LAND COMPANY -
SUBDIVISION
Mr. George Burkards, representing the Northland Land
Company and Mr. Wayne Bishop, representing Walsh/Bishop
Architects, were both present to discuss an industrial
subdivision, which is a replatting of the original
preliminary plat of the Mendota Heights Business Park to
accommodate lot configurations for Associated Bureaus.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Mr. Burkards
stated Associated Bureaus is a nationally scaled
collection agency with 400 employees. He stated
employment in five years could reach 600 employees. He
stated the Company is ranked fourth or fifth in the
Country.
Chair Dwyer stated road realignment is being done through
the preliminary plat process and the proposed square
footage of the building is 65,000. He stated United
Properties is not developing this land and questioned if
they will be monitoring the development. Mr. Burkards
responded they will be monitoring the development.
In response to question from the Commission, Mr. Burkards
stated they will work with the City Engineer in meeting
their requirements for street right-of-way.
Chair Dwyer also noted the proposed plan accommodates 400
employees and that Associated Bureaus has a five year
option to acquire an additional 6 acres of land adjacent
to the site to accommodate future parking lot expansion.
He further discussed the grading plan stating the City's
Planner feels it conforms with the natural terrain of the
site, except for a portion of the parking at the
northwest corner which extends over the existing slope.
He stated the proposed slope around the parking lot is
2:1 and the Planner suggests it should be reduced to a
3:1 slope to minimize the slopes in the parking area. He
further stated the landscape slope should be 3:1. Mr.
Burkards stated the slopes should have originally been
noted as 3:1.
Commissioner Friel inquired about the airport safety
zoning regarding the population assigned to this area.
Commissioner Friel desired to know if the population
assignment affected the remaining sites and their
population allocation. Mr. Burkards responded that there
are only two sites remaining and that there would be 382
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employees left for the remaining lot, if Assoicated
Bureaus used 950 employees.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
Chair Dwyer noted there was no one present to discuss
this request.
Commissioner Krebsbach moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
In response to a question from Commissioner Friel, Mr.
Burkards stated there are Tax Increment Funds available
as previously discussed with the City Council in
September.
Commissioner Koll noted her concerns for parking and that
recently she noted cars were parked in the street near
VGC. Mr. Burkards responded the VGC parking lot had
recently been paved and there was no parking allowed
until they closed on the building.
Commissioner Tilsen moved to recommend the City approve
the preliminary plat with the following conditions and
one option:
1. That the road right-of-way be revised to eliminate
the bubble effect at the Associated Bureau's
entrance and provide for truck turning radii around
the 90 degree corners, for approval by City's
Engineering staff.
2. That appropriate easements for drainage and
utilities will be secured as additional lots are
developed.
3. The Council consider, as an option, that Commerce
Drive be installed concurrent with development of
Associated Bureaus.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
October 27, 1992
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MISCELLANEOUS
Commissioner Friel stated he had noticed a resident of
Bridgeview Shores was doing some chain sawing near the
wetlands. He suggested the City should advise new
residents of the restrictions of removing vegetation and
constructing around wetlands areas. Public Works
Director Danielson stated he concurs with Commissioner
Friel in his recommendation.
Commissioner Friel further stated Mr. Mazzara's
development request does not comply with the Planned Unit
Development process. He stated he would like to see the
PUD requirements met and that Mr. Mazzara should abide by
those requirements. Chair Dwyer informed City staff Mr.
Mazzara should be notified of information he is lacking
before returning to the Planning Commission in November.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated City staff
reviewed the information submitted by Mr. Mazzara and he
noted Mr. Mazzara did submit the information as
requested.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder reminded the
Commission of the November 9, 1992 Superbiock meeting
being held by City Staff and Planner Uban.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the Planning Commission
adjourned their meeting at 9:50 o'clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary