1992-03-24 Planning Comm MinutesDRAFT
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MARCH 24, 1992
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was
held on Tuesday, March 24, 1992, in the City Hall Council Chambers,
1101 Victoria Curve. The meeting was called to order at 7:35
o'clock P.M. The following Commission members were present: Koll,
Friel, Dreelan, Dwyer, Krebsbach and Duggan. Commissioner Tilsen
had notified the Commission that he would be late. Also present
were Public Works Director Jim Danielson, Planning Consultant John
Uban, Administrative Assistant Kevin Batchelder and Senior
Secretary
Kim Blaeser.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Duggan moved approval of the February 25,
1992, Minutes with corrections
Commissioner Friel seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
INFORMATION ON CABLECASTING
OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS
Ms. Judy Skeie-Voss, Northern Dakota County Cable
Communications, gave a brief summary regarding the
broadcasting of Planning Commission meetings. Ms. Voss
submitted information regarding television etiquette and
informed, the Commission that the meetings will be aired
live starting at 7:30 o'clock P.M. beginning in April.
CASE NO. 92-08:
RAAK -
VARIANCE
Mr. and Mrs. John Raak were present to discuss their
request for a simple lot split. Chair Dwyer explained
that the Raak family owns two platted lots at 728
Wentworth Avenue. He stated that both lots meet the
minimum,requirements of the Zoning Ordinance in terms of
lot size • and lot width. He explained that Mr. Raak
proposes to add twenty-five feet (25') from the larger
eastern lot, where Mr. Raak's father's home is located,
to the western lot for the purpose of creating two lots
of equal dimension. Chair Dwyer explained that the newly
created lot will have a single family home constructed on
iwhere and Mrs. Raak propose to live.
March 25, 1992
Page 2
In response to a question from Commissioner Dreelan, Mr.
Raak explained they are proposing to construct a rambler
style home. Mr. Raak submitted a book to the Commission
showing the style of home they hope to construct. Chair
Dwyer noted the Planner's concern of compatibility of the
proposed house with the surrounding neighborhood. Mr.
Raak responded that they feel the proposed house is
compatible as most homes on the street are ramblers.
Commissioner Krebsbach stated she had driven by the site
and noted that Mr. Raak's lot is rather deep and the
Evergreen Knoll Addition is quite a distance away.
Chair Dwyer noted, as per Mr. Raak's site plan and the
Planner's report, that there is a screen-house and a
landscape structure that infringe on the western side of
the subject property. Chair Dwyer stated the Planner
noted that the City should require some assurance that
the adjacent property owner is not making any claim to
the area of infringement before the granting of the lot
split. Mr. Raak responded that he has spoken to and
received signatures of consent with the property owners
and the adjacent property as required by the City. He
stated that the adjacent property owner did not indicate
a problem as he signed the consent form.
Chair Dwyer informed Mr. Raak that the width of the
right-of-way for Wentworth Avenue is sixty feet (60').
He stated that because Wentworth Avenue is a County road,
the County has requested an additional three feet of
right-of-way. He stated the County is requesting that
Mr. Raak dedicate an additional three feet (3') of right-
of-way. Mr. Raak stated that he has no problem with the
request.
Commissioner Krebsbach moved to waive the subdivision
fees and the public hearing.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Friel moved to recommend that the City
Council grant the lot split with the condition that an
additional three feet (3') be dedicated for the purpose
of County right-of-way.
Commissioner Krebsbach seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
March 24, 1992
Page 3
HEARING -
CASE NO. 92-06:
ANDERSON -
CUP FOR PUD, WETLANDS PERMIT,
SUBDIVISION AND VARIANCE
Ms. Kathleen Anderson and Mr. Robert Wicker were present
to discuss Ms. Anderson's request for a Conditional Use
Permit for Planned Unit Development, Wetlands Permit,
Subdivision and Variance for the purpose of constructing
a single family home. Ms. Anderson explained that she
would like to plat a 1.3 acre lot, which she is
purchasing from Somerset 19 Condominiums. She explained
she will not disturb the wetlands with the construction
of the home.
Chair Dwyer stated this property is included in the
Somerset 19 Planned Unit Development. He stated that
this property is part of an area designated for open
space within the Somerset 19 Planned Unit Development.
He stated he is not inclined to recommend approval of
this development as there is nothing that compels the
City to grant these changes.
Ms. Anderson explained that initially when the Somerset
19 development was first approved, the project covered a
smaller area. She explained that in 1975, land was added
to the development which was designated for common open
space. Mr. Wicker explained that because additional land
was added to the open space within the planned unit
development, there is an excess amount of land. He
stated that the additional property is not needed to
satisfy the open space requirement within the PUD. He
stated the open space designated in 1971 satisfies the
requirement within the PUD.
Mr. Wicker stated the police department has notified Ms.
Anderson that dumping is occurring on the site. He
stated that this property has deteriorated in the past
years and that constructing a home on this property will
not only increase the City's tax revenue but also help
beautify the area. He stated the proposed home will
blend in with the existing neighborhood.
Commissioner Friel cited Section 22.16(3) of the Zoning
Ordinance stating that no changes may be made in an
approved final development within a planned unit
development plan subject to several conditions. He
stated that he agrees with Chair Dwyer in that he has not
seen or heard anything which gives a basis within the
City's Zoning Ordinance for a recommendation to the City
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Council to make a change to the Planned Unit Development.
He stated that it appears the Planning Commission is
being asked to ignore the provisions as stipulated within
the Zoning Ordinance. He stated the Planning Commission
and City Council need to see justification in the
provisions of the Ordinance and at this point, they have
not.
Mr. Wicker responded that the parcel of land Ms. Anderson
desires to subdivide is not the original open space of
the planned unit development. He stated this parcel was
an additional piece of land added to the Association's
already designated open space requirement. He stated if
that land is removed, there is still ample open space as
required by the initial planned unit development. He
stated it would be in the best interest of the community
that this land be developed using Ms. Anderson's proposal
for a single family home.
Commissioner Friel responded that according to City staff
and Planner, the additional land is include within the
planned unit development as open space. Planner Uban
concurred with Commissioner Friel, in stating that the
Association added this parcel of land to the planned unit
development and that it is on the tax rolls as open
space.
Commissioner Koll asked if Somerset 19 Association sought
the selling of this property. Mr. Wicker responded that
the Association has and that they would like to see the
land developed as it will improve the value of the
property.
Mr. Guthmann, President of the Somerset 19 Association,
explained the Association purchased the land in 1975 from
the Wodke family. He explained the Association does not
need the land and that it is in the Association's best
interest to sell the land as the Association needs the
income for their Maintenance Reserve Fund. He explained
that he had discussed the possibility of selling the
property with Planner Dahlgren several years ago, and at
that time Planner Dahlgren indicated that developing the
land for single family use could be considered.
Commissioner Tilsen arrived at 8:08 o'clock P.M.
In response to a question from Commissioner Friel, Mr.
Guthmann stated the land in question is over two blocks
away from the condominiums and that the proposed
development would make better use of the property than
what exists on it now.
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Page 5
Commissioner Krebsbach stated she would like to see the
Planning Commission review the surrounding parcels to get
a sense of direction as to what type of development is
proposed, if any, within the areas of Wentworth
Avenue/Dodd Road/First Avenue.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Ms. Anderson
stated her request for a ten foot (10') variance is due
to the lack of building room due to the wetlands. She
stated she would like to have a backyard area as she is
proposing a walkout home.
Commissioner Krebsbach stated the Commission should find
out what land is still available for residential
development and park land development. Administrative
Assistant Batchelder stated there are a few parcels of
land to the north that could still be subdivided but that
most of the land in the immediate area has been developed
or is park.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
Mrs. Wodke, adjacent property owner, asked for the
definition of a planned unit development. She further
commented that she was under the understanding the
wetlands are a protected area and that no development can
occur on wetlands. Chair Dwyer briefly summarized the
definition of a planned unit development and the process
of wetlands development.
Mrs. Wodke stated that she and her husband had been
considering subdividing their land. She stated that they
were unsure as to how Ms. Anderson's application would
impact their future considerations of their land.
Commissioner Krebsbach stated that based on Mrs. Wodke's
input, the Commission should get a better sense of what
property owners, with acreage, are proposing to do with
their land. Mrs. Wodke informed the Commission that she
and her husband own one acre of land.
Mr. Nelson, 698 Third Avenue, stated his concern for the
water table should Ms. Anderson develop the land. Public
Works Director Danielson informed Mr. Nelson that a soil
survey was completed for the site and that survey
indicates the soil to be adequate for construction.
Mr. Linnell, 1407 Cherry Hill Road, noted his concern for
the wetlands.
Chair Dwyer acknowledged that the Planning Commission
received a photo copy regarding the type of house Ms.
Anderson is proposing.
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Page 6
Commissioner Friel moved to table the public hearing
until the Planning Commission of April 28, 1992, at 7:45
o'clock P.M..
Commissioner Krebsbach amended the motion directing staff
to send a letter to property owners communicating to them
that the Planning Commission is interested in hearing
their thoughts on the possibility of future development
on properties that have not been developed.
Commissioner Krebsbach seconded the amended motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
HEARING:
CASE NO. 92-04:
HENRY SIBLEY SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL -
SIGN VARIANCE
Ms. Lois Rockney, Director of Business Affairs for
Independent School District No. 197, was present to
discuss a request for a sign size variance to allow
installation of a sign on the south wall of Henry Sibley
High School in the form of individual plastic letters.
Ms. Rockney explained the letters are to be four feet
(4') in height and the sign is seventy-eight feet (78')
in length, total square footage area 312 square feet.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Ms. Rockney
explained that the sign is a donation from the Class of
1991 and that there is not enough funds, at this time, to
light the sign. She stated that eventually, they would
like the sign to be lit. In response to a question from
Commissioner Duggan, Ms. Rockney stated the School
District had not discussed the possibility of removing
some of the flood lighting. She stated the present flood
lights are there for security reasons and that she would
consider reviewing the issue of removing some of the
lights with the School District.
Ms. Rockney informed the Commission that the intent of
the sign request is to address the fact that the school
is not easily identified from the Highway. She stated
that many people (school teams, business associates,
etc.) have difficulty in identifying where the school is.
Commissioner Krebsbach stated that the School District
needs to think of signage on a long term basis and have
a comprehensive isgn plan for Henry Sibley High School.
March 24, 1992
Page 7
She statedthis would help determine when enough signs are
enough.
Commissioner Friel explained that according to the City's
Zoning Ordinance, in order for the Planning Commission to
recommend approval of a variance, the applicant must
present a case of hardship.
Ms. Rockney stated that the existing signs on the
property have been vandalized. She stated that it is
anticipated that if this sign variance is approved, the
sign located on the frontage road facing Highway 110
would be removed.
Commissioner Dreelan inquired as to whether this proposed
sign is the same as St. Thomas Academy's existing sign.
Ms. Rockney stated that to her knowledge it is the same.
Commissioner Krebsbach stated that it would be helpful to
erect a sign on Highway 110 giving direction as to where
the high school is located.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
Mr. Russ Wahl, 631 Callahan Place, stated that he sees no
reason for the City to grant a variance. He stated his
concern as a tax payer and that the School District is
spending money on items that are not necessary. He
stated that he agrees with Commissioner Krebsbach that
there should be a directional sign placed on Highway 110
as to the location of the high school.
Ms. Rockney stated the Class of 1991 chose to donate a
sign to the school district. She stated the Class of
1991 felt that installing the sign would give the
students a sense of identity.
Ms. Marsha Knuth, Parents Committee Chair for the Class
of 1991, stated that a new sign is needed as it is very
difficult to find the school. She explained the Class of
1991 chose to donate the sign as it gives the students a
real sense of identity and that it will be very helpful
to those people who are unfamiliar with the location of
the school.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Mr. Wahl
stated that the request for the sign will not interfere
with his lifestyle as the sign will not be seen from his
place of residence.
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Page 8
The Commission briefly discussed their concern over the
size of the sign. Mr. Dick Kruse, Midway Sign Company,
explained that the size of the sign is necessary as it
will be seen from a distance. He stated the sign is much
like St. Thomas' sign. He stated that no funding has
been allocated for the lighting of the sign. He
explained the frontage road sign is old and rotting, the
monument sign has been vandalized and the sign over the
main entrance of the school is unreadable.
Planner Uban stated his concern for how the letters will
be attached to the building. Mr. Kruse stated that the
letters will not be caulked. He stated the letters could
be stud mounted. He stated that the letters will not be
raised as birds tend to make their nests and they may
cause a great deal of mess. Mr. Kruse further stated
that he did not install the north entrance sign.
Commissioner Krebsbach asked if the proposed sign. and the
sign above the north entrance will be similar in
characteristics. Mr. Kruse stated that the color of the
letters on the north sign are the wrong color for a sign
that needs to be seen from a distance. In response to a
question from Commissioner Tilsen, Mr Kruse stated the
anticipated life span of the sign is 10 to 15 years.
Mr. Jim Mazzoni, Callahan Place, stated that he has
talked to various people inquiring whether they have a
problem finding the school. He stated that their problem
has been locating the parking lot and entrance of the
school. He stated that it would be to the benefit of the
School District if they were to look into installing a
sign locating the parking and entrance of the high
school.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder submitted pictures
and sample lettering of the sign to the Commission as
submitted by Midway Sign Company.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that the City should request
the Department of Transportation to install directional
signage on Highway 110.
In response to a question from Commissioner Friel, Ms.
Rockney stated that when the funding is available, the
School District would like the sign to be lighted.
Commissioner Koll moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Friel seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
March 24, 1992
Page 9
Commissioner Friel stated that he believes there is a
real problem in locating the parking and entrance of
Sibley High School. He stated the Commission has had a
problem in setting precedent with regards to the granting
of sign variances. He stated he is concerned with the
aesthetics of the sign and he is opposed to lighting the
sign. He stated that lighting of signs in a residential
area is obtrusive and inappropriate.
Commissioner Duggan stated he has no objection with the
proposed sign. He stated that he is against lighting the
sign.
Commissioner Roll moved to recommend that the City
Council grant a variance to allow a total 312 square
foot, lighted sign to be mounted on the south side of
Henry Sibley Senior High School building.
Commissioner Krebsbach moved to amend the motion adding
that the School District consider coordinating the
existing north sign and the proposed south sign designs,
put forth an effort in installing directional signage on
Highway 110 and directional signage on Delaware Avenue.
Commissioner Krebsbach seconded the amended motion.
Chair Dwyer stated that the School District has not
proven hardship. He further stated that MnDOT would have
to be contacted in order for the directional signage to
be placed on Highway 110.
Commissioner Dreelan moved to amend the motion stating
that lighting of the sign is not included within the
variance.
Commissioner Koll accepted the amendment to her original
motion.
Commissioner Krebsbach seconded the amended motion.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that he is opposed to the sign
variance. He stated the Class of 1991 should look into
a more appropriate use of the money donation.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 2, DWYER, TILSEN
March 24, 1992
Page 10
HEARING:
CASE NO. 92-07:
ANDREWS - WALGREEN COMPANY
CUP
Mr. Steven Andrews, Technician with the Walgreen Company,
was present to discuss Walgreen Company's request for a
conditional use permit to install a satellite dish
antenna located at 2535 Pilot Knob Road, Suite 120.
Mr. Andrews explained the purpose of installing the
satellite dish is to provide the facility direct
communications with other Walgreen facilities and the
corporate headquarters located in Chicago. He explained
the antenna is to be mounted on a pole at the north side
of the building. He explained that the antenna dish will
be six feet (6') in diameter. He further explained that
the antenna will be mounted on a twenty-five feet (25')
pole. Mr. Andrews stated the dish needs to be over the
pitch of the roof. He explained that they would like to
place the dish on the roof of the building, but the
landlord will not allow Walgreen Company to do so.
In response to a question from Commissioner Krebsbach,
Mr. Andrews stated that Walgreen's has used satellite
communications for over three years. He stated that over
90 percent of the stores use this communication and that
their office is one of the last to convert. He stated
that they have been using phone lines for communications
and that it is getting very expensive to continue with
this form of communication. He stated that the satellite
will help assist in repairing equipment as most of the
equipment is now sent out of this particular office for
repairs.
In response to a question from Commissioner Duggan, Mr.
Andrews stated that the satellite communications system
will only be available for Walgreen's use.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder explained that there
are satellite dishes within Mendota Heights. He stated
that if a satellite dish is not mounted on the roof, it
is considered an accessory structure under the Zoning
Ordinance requirements. He stated that within the
Industrial Zoning District accessory structures require
Conditional Use Permits and that the height limitation is
45 feet.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
March 24, 1992
Page 11
Commissioner Friel stated that the Commission would be
illadvised to take action on this application due to
pending litigation on another matter regarding antenna
height within the City. He moved to recommend that the
Planning Commission table the request for a conditional
use permit until April 28, 1992, at 8:00 o'clock P.M.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
Chair Dwyer stated City staff will discuss this matter
with the City's attorney and will report back to the
Commission in April.
Chair Dwyer called at recess at 9:20 o'clock P.M.
Chair Dwyer reconvened the meeting at 9:27 o'clock P.M.
CONTINUED HEARING:
CASE NO. 92-02:
THE ROTTLUND HOMES
Mr. Todd Stutz, Executive Vice President of Rottlund
Homes, Mr. Don Jenssen, Rottlund Homes and Mr. John
Bannigan, Attorney representing the applicant, were
present to discuss The Rottlund Homes' request for a
Rezoning, CUP for PUD and Subdivision to allow the
construction of a 68 unit townhome development in the
southeast quadrant of Mendota Heights Road and Dodd Road.
Mr. Stutz explained to the Planning Commission that he
and Mr. Jenssen have submitted revised drawings which
identifies specific information the Planning Commission
had requested at their February 25, 1992, meeting along
with a letter specifically relating to additional
information that the Commission, City staff and Police
and Fire Department had requested. He stated that they
believe the information, as submitted in letter form
dated March 17, 1992, addresses all issues as discussed
during the February 25th Planning Commission meeting and
subsequent meetings with City staff and planning
consultant.
Mr. Stutz explained the total area of the Planned Unit
Development is 10.52 acres. He explained that their
proposed development will consist of 9.58 acres and the
remaining .94 acre will remain under the ownership of
R.A. Putnam and Associates who intends to develop the
land as a day care facility. He explained that according
to the letter from Mr. Putnam dated March 6, 1992, Mr.
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Putnam is requesting only sketch plan approval at this
time.
Chair Dwyer stated that there seems to be inconsistencies
between the Rottlund letter and Mr. Putnam's letter,
specifically relating to the total acreage of the planned
unit development. Mr. Stutz confirmed to the Commission
that the total acreage of the planned unit development is
10.52 acres.
Mr. Stutz explained that the 68 unit townhome complexes
will consist of seven - eight unit buildings and one -
twelve unit building. He explained that there will be
berms constructed along Mendota Heights Road. He further
explained that the buildings will be two story buildings
with the total height (at the highest peak) twenty-eight
feet (28').
Mr. Stutz explained, as per the Planning Commission's
request, the listing of lenders references. He explained
that Rottlund Homes is actively involved, throughout the
Twin Cities area, in a lending relationship with specific
lenders. In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Mr.
Stutz explained that he is not able to specifically
identify which lender will be financing the project as
lenders will not review a proposed development until
there is preliminary plat approval. He explained that
submitting the list of lenders should prove that the
Rottlund Company has the ability to undertake the
development as proposed.
Chair Dwyer stated that Rottlund Homes has not provided
the Commission with the financial information needed as
required by the City's Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Stutz
responded that due to the proprietary nature of the
Rottlund Company, corporate financial statements will not
be provided to the Commission as this information would
provide competitors with a potential competitive
advantage.
In response to a question from Commissioner Duggan, Mr.
Stutz stated that the price range for each townhome will
be $80,000 to $90,000. He explained that the retail
price of this product is roughly $25,000 higher than the
product Centex Homes is presently constructing in their
nearby development. Mr. Stutz explained that the target
market they hope to satisfy will be for empty nester age
55 and older. He explained the proposed townhomes will
have a main floor master bedroom. He further explained
that standard features within each home include wood
floors, oak trim, ceramic baths with exterior materials
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of brick and aluminum. He stated there will be upgrades
available as each unit will be built specifically for the
potential buyer.
Mr. Stutz stated that the existing surveys show errors in
the size of the exception shown on the plat because they
are based on an erroneous centerline in Dodd Road. He
stated an exact boundary survey is in process and will be
supplied to the City prior to final plat approval.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Mr. Stutz
stated the approximate density of dwelling units is 7.1
units per acre. He stated that this density is within
the Zoning Code requirements.
Mr. Stutz explained that the exterior materials will be
brick and aluminum with an upgrade in shingles. He
stated that the siding will have a thirty year warranty
and the shingles will have a twenty year warranty. He
stated that through the Association dues, there will be
money set aside for the maintenance of items not covered
under a specific warranty.
Commissioner Friel stated that under the development
schedule, the development of the Outlot is not included.
He further stated that no elevation and utility plans
have been submitted with respect to the Outlot. He
stated that the City's Zoning Ordinance requires that
this specific information is to be submitted. Mr. Stutz
stated that Mr. Putnam had made it clear that what he is
asking of the Commission is a sketch plan approval.
Commissioner Friel stated that the Outlot is a part of
the planned unit development and that all of the required
information must be submitted.
Commissioner Friel noted that the minimum requirement for
a day care center, according to the City's Zoning
Ordinance, is one acre.
Mr. Stutz explained that the estimated amount of
developed open space including Outlot A is 236,338 square
feet, 51 percent or 5.43 acres. He stated that the
Rottlund parcel contains 49.4 percent open space. He
stated all open space or common area will be governed by
a homeowners association. He explained there will be
automatic underground irrigations systems for all
landscaped and sodded areas. Mr. Stutz explained that a
copy of the Declaration of Covenants, Conditions,
Restrictions and Easements, Bylaws and Articles of
Incorporation for the proposed homeowner's association
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has been submitted for the Commission's review.
Commissioner Friel stated that the only employment
opportunities generated by this development will be that
of construction workers on the site. He stated that, at
this point, there is no way of determining what type of
employment the day care facility will generate.
Commissioner Duggan stated that according to his
calculations, over 1/2 of the proposed development is
hard surface or buildings.
In response to a question from Commissioner Koll
regarding the submitted Covenants, Mr. Stutz responded
that it is not Rottlund's policy to develop property as
rental units. He stated that the clause within the
Association's Bylaws is to be fair to the residents who
are unable to sell their property.
Mr. Stutz explained that preserving and maintaining the
development is an important priority. He explained that
the exterior materials require no maintenance, the
streets (although private) will be constructed to City
standards, the landscaping will be maintained with an
irrigation system. He explained that approximately
$5.00, per unit, of the Association dues will be set
aside for a Reserve Account. Commissioner Duggan stated
that $5.00 per unit seems to be low.
Commissioner Tilsen expressed his concerns with safety
issues with respect to the Police and Fire Departments
accessibility into the development.
Mr. Stutz explained that Braun Engineering surveyed the
site and indicated that conditions are adequate. He
explained that they have conducted a tree survey. He
explained that the species of trees located on the site
are mostly boxelder and poplar. He stated that they will
be relocating trees by using a tree spade. He stated
that they have calculated to install approximately 270
trees. He further explained that the property to the
east of the proposed development has the majority of
trees which is owned by a Mendota Woods Subdivision
resident.
Mr. Stutz explained it is estimated the development will
generate 476 trips per day based upon 7 trips per
residential unit. He stated that the traffic that could
be generated through the development of the outlot was
not included in the estimates.
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In response to a question from Commissioner Koll, Mr.
Stutz explained that throughout the development site,
there is a difference in topography. He explained that
retaining walls are necessary. He stated the material
used for the retaining walls will be keystone blocks and
boulders at the entrance of the development. He further
stated that drainage is taken into account with each
retaining wall system. Mr. Stutz briefly explained the
height of retaining walls along the east end of the
development and along the 1-494 ramp.
In response to a question from Commissioner Friel, Mr.
Stutz explained that the dotted line, which appears on
the grading/drainage plan represents an erosion control
device which is used during the construction period.
Mr. Stutz explained relative to the Police and Fire
Department concerns, the circulation system now proceeds
through the development with the linking of the cul-de-
sacs with a loop drive. He further stated that street
lighting will be used at the entrance and throughout the
cul-de-sacs. He further stated that each dwelling will
have exterior lights.
Mr. Stutz stated that at this time, no entrance monument
is proposed. He stated that signs will be limited to
traffic signs and temporary marketing signage.
Commissioner Tilsen expressed his concern with the
proliferation of signage. He stated that one sign at
each entrance (no parking signs) should be sufficient.
Mr. Stutz responded that they would prefer to do that,
however, minimum signage is often ignored.
Chair Dwyer stated, according to the drawings, that there
is proposed to be 30 off street parking stalls, 100
garage slots and 100 parking spaces in the front area of
the garages for a total of 230 spaces. Chair Dwyer
stated that according to his calculations, if 40 parking
spots were removed due to the prohibiting of parking in
front of garage stalls, the total amount of parking
available is 130. Mr. Stutz responded that Rottlund
Homes has complied with the requirements of parking as
set forth in the Zoning Ordinance.
Commissioner Friel asked if Rottlund Homes is installing
a four foot high fence between existing parking areas and
adjacent developments. Mr. Stutz responded that a fence
is not proposed. He stated that berms will be
constructed.
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Page 16
Commissioner Friel stated that Ordinance 401, Seciton
12.5(2) states that no parking areas may be within 10
feet of the principle structure. Commissioner Friel
stated that the private streets are too narrow. He
inquired if the intention of having private narrow
streets and parking stalls in front of the garage was to
maximize the density. He stated with public streets
there would be less units.
Commissioner Friel stated that the City's Zoning
Ordinance does not provide direction for private streets.
Mr. Stutz responded that it would be up to the Planning
Commission to review as part of the HR-PUD process.
Commissioner Krebsbach stated that the proposed
development seems to anticipate no children living within
the development. She questioned where children would
play. She stated there could be 120 children living
within the development. Mr. Stutz stated children could
play in the open space of the development such as the
berm area and holding pond area. Commissioner Krebsbach
questioned where the residents walk. She stated that the
proposed development does not seem to take into account
pedestrian safety. Mr. Stutz responded that the
development is as safe as any other development in the
City. He explained that there is not a lot of through
traffic on private streets as opposed to public streets.
He further stated that there is a trail way along Mendota
Heights Road. Commissioner Krebsbach stated that
Rottlund Homes is remiss in not having considered both
children and pedestrian safety.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Planner Uban
stated that it is very common to have segregated parking.
He stated that they could designate off street parking.
Chair Dwyer stated that the City could accommodate this
factor but then there would be less green space within
the development.
In response to a question from Commissioner Tilsen, Mr.
Stutz stated that twenty feet (20') is the depth of the
shortest driveway. Commissioner Friel stated that the
Subdivision Ordinance requires a 30 foot driveway. Mr.
Stutz responded thta this is a proposed Planned Unit
Development with private drives.
Commissioner Duggan referred to the Fire Department's
concerns regarding street design and turning radii.
Commissioner Duggan questioned whether or not fire trucks
are able to get out of this proposed development.
Planner Uban stated the latest plan shows a hammerhead
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design. He stated that he has not been able to compare
the latest plan to the earlier plan. Mr. Stutz stated
that the radius is more than adequate. He further stated
that each building has interior sprinkler systems.
In response to a question from Commissioner Krebsbach,
Mr. Stutz stated there is 475 feet from Mendota Heights
Road to the twelve unit building.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
Mr. Mike Wier, Bridgeview Shores resident, stated that
the requirement for a planned unit development is 10
acres and this proposed development is only 9.5 acres.
He expressed his concerns for property valuations,
density and the amount of traffic that could be
generated.
Public Works Director briefly explained the process of
applying for traffic signals. He explained that the City
has requested the State to install traffic signals at
Highway 149 and Mendota Heights Road several times. He
explained the State has found that traffic signals, at
this time, not warranted.
Mr. Norm Linnell, Bridgeview Shores resident, stated the
Commission should keep in mind that this area is
currently zoned for single family homes. He stated his
concern for private streets, the lack of park land. He
stated his concerns for the lack of buffering between the
proposed development and Mendota Woods. He stated more
information should be obtained from Mr. Putnam regarding
his development plans. He stated his concerns for
property values should a commercial development be
approved.
A Mendota Woods resident, owner of Lot 2 Mendota Woods,
stated her concerns for trees, traffic, children and
pedestrian safety. She further stated her concerns for
the lack of green space. She stated the Commission
should request more detailed information regarding the
day care facility. She stated she would like to see
single family homes constructed on this site. She stated
she would like to see the erosion devices clarified.
Mr. Stutz responded that erosion measures have been taken
into account as provided on the grading plan. He stated
that measures are taken to protect sediment from going
into the sewer system. He stated a special fabric cloth
type fencing is used that allows water, but not sediment
to filter through.
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Mr. Stan Linnell, 1407 Cherry Hill Road, stated there is
a very high percentage of hard surface within the
development. He stated more transition is needed and
that the roadways are too narrow. He further stated
walkways should be provided. He stated additional
screening should be provided at the northern end of the
development.
Mr. Stutz explained that buildings will have additional
features to protect against airplane noise, meeting
standard FHA requirements. He stated the outdoor noise
levels to be in the range of 62 to 65 decibel range.
Mr. Stutz explained that an additional $2,500 has been
provided to the City for additional reviews required by
this project. He stated the Rottlund Company is
requesting that any monies not used, be return upon
approval of the project.
Commissioner Krebsbach moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Friel seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Friel moved to recommend that the City
Council deny the Conditional Use Permit for a Planned
Unit Development, the rezoning to HR-PUD, and the Sketch
Plan approval for the following reasons:
1. The proposal does not meet the criteria for a Planned
Unit Development set forth in Sections 13 and 22 of the
Zoning Ordinance in that it does not:
a. preserve the natural and scenic qualities for open
areas,
b. limit development to a scale appropriate to the
existing terrain and surrounding land use,
c. result in an effective and unified treatment of the
development possibilities on the project site, or
d. harmonize with the existing and proposed
development in the areas surrounding the site
and, in fact, instead of preserving open areas and
natural and scenic qualities, the proposed Planned Unit
Development diminishes open space and maximizes densities
by utilizing unsafe private streets of inappropriate
widths, the consequence of which is to have a result
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entirely opposite that which is contemplated in the
utilization of a Planned Unit Development.
2. The Planned Unit Development does not meet the
definitional requirements of Sections 22.1(a) and (b).
3. The granting of the Conditional Use Permit requested
would have an adverse and detrimental effect upon the
health, safety and welfare of the future occupants of the
project site and on existing and future occupants of
surrounding lands. It will seriously depreciate
surrounding property value and the project is not
therefore in harmony with the general purpose and intent
of the City Zoning Ordinance and, in particular, does not
meet the requirements for a Conditional Use Permit
specified in Sections 5.6(5) of the Zoning Ordinance. In
particular, the private streets have the potential of
creating health and safety problems, as evidenced by the
concerns expressed, among others, by the reports of the
fire and police departments of the City, even though it
is recognized that apparently some changes were made in
the plans in response to those reports.
4. The proposal before us fails to meet the following
specific requirements of the Zoning and Subdivision
Ordinances of the City, among others:
a. Outlot A, which calls for a day care center, does
not meet the one -acre minimum specified by Section
7.2(8) or in the alternative there is an
inconsistency between the site description and
dimensions contained in the plans presented by the
developer and the developer's March 17, 1992,
letter. It fails in other respects as well to meet
the requirements of Section 7.2(8) of the Zoning
Ordinance in that the applicant is lacking evidence
of registration with the State of Minnesota as
required.
b. The streets are private streets and are twenty -four
feet (24') wide instead of the minimum thirty feet
(30') required by Section 5.3(a) of the Subdivision
Ordinance. Private street width provided for by
the developer is the width permitted for private
driveways only. It appears that the use of private
streets was apparently utilized as a means to
maximize housing units in the proposal and minimize
open space, which is entirely inconsistent with the
purposes for which a Planned Unit Development is
permitted, particularly on such a small site. Such
streets also have the potential for creating public
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safety problems because of problems related to
maintenance and snow removal.
c. The Site Development Plan fails to comply with
Sections 5.6(2)b6, 7 and 8; 5.6(2)c 3, 4 and 5;
5.7(2)a6, 7 and 8; 5.7(3)b 3, 4 and 5; 22.5(1) and
22.5(4) with respect to Outlot A; and in general
with Sections 5.6(2)d6, 5.6(2)e3, 5.7(3)c6,
5.7(3)d3 and 12.5(7).
d. The proposed parking outside, off street fails to
comply with Section 12.5(2).
e. There is no public street abutting Lots 2, 3 and 5
as required by Section 3.2(65) of the Zoning
Ordinance.
f. The Covenants of the Homeowner's Association which
provide for rental of the units is inconsistent
with the representation that these units are "for
sale" units.
g. Traffic studies have not taken into account the day
care center traffic of the Planned Unit
Development.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
Commissioner Krebsbach offered a friendly amendment
stating that the proposed plan does not reflect open
space area for both children and pedestrian travel.
Commissioner Friel accepted the Friendly Amendment.
Commissioner Friel moved to include within his motion
that the plan fails to comply with the requirement of
fencing as required by the Zoning Ordinance, on the north
side of the property.
Commissioner Tilsen offered a Friendly Amendment stating
that private driveway length should be much less than 500
feet.
Commissioner Friel accepted the Friendly Amendment.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the Friendly Amendments and
the addition to the original motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
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MISCELLANEOUS
The Planning Commission briefly discussed the possibility
of visiting the Kathleen Anderson site.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder explained, with
regards to Mr. Guthmann's comments regarding Planner
Dahlgren, that City staff had informed the applicants and
Somerset 19 that Planner Dahlgren did not have the
authority in to approve planning requests and explained
that only City Council has the authority to grant any
planning approvals.
VERBAL REVIEW
ADJOURN
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
Public Works Director Danielson provided a verbal review
for the planning items at the previous City Council
meeting.
Commissioner Krebsbach moved to adjourn the Planning
Commission to Saturday, March 28, 1992 at 9:00 o'clock
A.M. for the purpose of visiting the Kathleen M. Anderson
site located at the southwest quadrant of Third Avenue
and Clement Street. Commissioner Krebsbach further
directed City staff to send mailed notice to all property
owners within 350 feet of the requested Planned Unit
Development Amendment, Variance, Wetlands Permit and
Subdivision.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
Commissioner Tilsen informed the Commission that he would
not be able to attend the meeting.
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 11:45 o'clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary