1993-11-23 Planning Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
NOVEMBER 23, 1993
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was
held. on Tuesday, November 23, 1993, in the City Hall Council
Chambers, 1101 Victoria Curve. The meeting was called to order at
7:30 o'clock P.M. The following Commission members were present:
Koll, Dreelan and Duggan. Commissioners Tilsen, Dwyer, Friel and
Hunter were excused. Also present were Public Works Director Jim
Danielson, Planning Consultant John Uban, Administrative Assistant
Kevin Batchelder and Senior Secretary Kim Blaeser,
APPROVAL OF
'01
INUTES
Vice Chair Duggan held over the approval of the October 26,
1993 minutes until the December meeting when there would be
a quorum.
The Planning Commission decided to proceed without a quorum so
that each case could be reviewed.
CASE NO. 93-27:
OSKEY -
WETLANDS PERMIT
Mr. Tim Oskey, of 671 Apache Lane, was present to discuss his
request for a Wetlands Permit to allow the construction of a
thirty-six inch (36") high fence to within fifty-five feet
(55') of the wetlands.
Mr. Oskey explained the proposed fence will close off the rear
property line. He further explained the purpose of
constructing the fence is to keep his children and pet from
wandering out of his yard.
Lacking a quorum, the Planning Commission moved to suggest
that the City Council approve a Wetlands Permit to allow a
thirty-six inch fence to within fifty-five feet of the
wetlands as proposed on the applicant's site plan.
DISCUSS PROPOSED TRAIL
ALIGNMENT CHANGE TO ARNDT ADDITION
SITE PLAN
Mr, Tom Junnila, of 1024 Downing Street, appeared before the
Planning Commission to request their consideration of a change
to the location of the bike trail approved with the Arndt
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Addition plat. Vice Chair Duggan explained the Arndt Addition
is a thirteen lot subdivision whose preliminary plat was
approved in 1992 and the bike trail as approved runs along the
north, east and southern boundaries of the plat to provide
access to Ivy Park. Mr. Junnila stated he has submitted
signatures from a number of his neighbors and that those
signatures were submitted as a petition in favor of his
proposed relocation of the trail (Option No. 1). Mr. Junnila
explained that Option No. 1 is proposed to be a shorter bike
path which would bisect Lots 2 and 3 of the Arndt Addition and
then go along the rear of Lot 3 and enter Ivy Park parking
lot. Mr. Junnila stated his neighbors are in favor of
shortening the bike path as it will be safer for the children
in the area.
Vice Chair Duggan stated the developer has agreed to pay for
the construction of the trails as originally approved. He
further stated the maintenance of the trailway will be the
City's obligation.
Mr. Junnila stated his personal preference in changing the
bike trailway is because it will be located within thirty feet
(30') of his backyard. He stated his lot is already bound by
two public streets and that with the addition of the trail
way, his privacy would suffer significantly.
Ms. Kathy Nadler, of 610 Kirchner Avenue, stated she would
like access to Ivy Park via Kirchner Avenue. She stated she
is a daycare provider and that access to the park via Kirchner
Avenue is the easiest route for her.
Mr. Richard Nadler, of 610 Kirchner Avenue, stated that
residents of the Valley Lane area want the present plan as
approved by the City Council. He stated the trails are an
attractive addition to the community and that they can only
increase property values. He stated his front window is
twenty feet (20') to thirty feet (30') from the road and that
he is comfortable with the location of the trail system. He
stated it would be a shame to lose this section of the trail.
Mr. Nadler further stated that numerous trees have been lost
with the excavating of this development and that it is a real
disappointment. He stated that the Mayor stated the trees
should be cut down.
Vice Chair Duggan stated he has visited the site. He further
suggested that City staff should inform residents who are
submitting petitions to the City that names and addresses
should be printed on the petition to ease the verification of
legal names and addresses for Council.
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A brief discussion ensued regarding the number of traffic
trips made through the area.
Vice Chair Duggan inquired about the ADA requirements on
slopes. He explained the City is required to abide by new
standards with new trails. Duggan stated Option 1 would
impact two of the new lots within the addition and would
impact the Makiesky and Mullerleilies property. Duggan stated
that Option No. 2 would impact four of the new lots within the
addition and that the developer has indicated they are not in
favor of either Option 1 or Option 2. He further stated that
with the approved site plan, the most impacted people on the
existing plan is Mr. Junnila. He further stated that at the
original Planning Commission meeting, Mr. Junnila was in favor
of the plan.
Mr. Junnila stated his position has changed since the time of
the Planning Commission meeting as it seems very strange to
have the path right in his backyard. Vice Chair Duggan stated
several eight foot (8') pathways within the City have been
screened with the planting of trees, etc, to provide privacy.
Commissioner Dreelan requested clarification with respect to
the September 27, 1993 letter from Mr. Junnila stating that
Mayor Mertensotto and Mr. Arndt are not opposed to the
proposed trail alignment change. Mr. Arndt stated he is in
favor of the original, existing site plan approval.
Commissioner Koll stated she understands Mr. Junnila's
concerns. She stated that the trail is to serve the whole
north end and that the current proposal is serving the
Kirchner Avenue area too and that the impact of the original
plan is minimal.
Vice Chair Duggan stated the original plan is the best plan
and that screening of the trail area is possible.
Mr. Mike Newman, 1006 Downing, stated he is concerned about
children who will find their own way to reach the playground.
He stated that direct access to the park is an issue. He
further inquired as to how an east/west path along the Junnila
property serves his neighborhood's purpose. He stated he
would like to see a more direct route. Vice Chair Duggan
stated ADA standards help determine the placement of the
trails.
Mr. Junnila
development
that Mayor
Arndt's and
inquired if Mayor Mertensotto is involved in the
of the subdivision. Vice Chair Duggan explained
Mertensotto is the attorney representing the
that he has abstained from voting on the matter.
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Lacking a quorum, the Planning Commission moved to suggest
that the City Council not alter the original Arndt Site Plan,
The Planning Commission further directed staff to research ADA
requirements on grade ratios.
CONTINUED HEARING
CASE NO. 93-25s
DEEB -
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND
WETLANDS PERMIT
Mr. Jake Deeb, of 1780 Dodd Road, was present to discuss his
request for a Conditional Use Permit and Wetlands Permit to
allow the construction of 988 square foot detached garage to
within thirty six feet (36') of Willow Creek.
Vice Chair Duggan briefly explained that at their October
meeting, the Planning Commission, at the request of Mr. Deeb,
continued the hearing to their November meeting. He explained
that at that time, the Planning Commission had asked that Mr.
Deeb submit additional information and revised drawings.
Duggan explained that Mr. Deeb has submitted the information.
Mr. Deeb briefly explained his letter of intent regarding the
condition of his property (in 1986) prior to the City
realigning Willow Creek. Vice Chair Duggan explained that Mr.
Deeb purchased his property in 1990 and that Mr. Deeb feels
that with the realignment of the creek prior to his purchase
of the property, has impacted him in that he now must apply
for a wetlands permit. Mr. Deeb stated he is not asking for
the City to move the creek but to return his property to it
original state. He explained it is an expensive procedure
every time he decides to make a change to his property due to
the wetlands designation.
Commissioner Koll inquired if Pine Creek would handle the flow
of water as a result of future development. Planner Uban
stated the City should consider a drainage easement to handle
future storm water drainage. Commission Koll inquired how the
culvert remains open. Public Works Director Danielson stated
the culvert is a private culvert. Mr. Deeb stated the former
owner installed the culvert and then covered it to allow for
a larger and flatter backyard. Mr. Deeb stated the culvert
has never been plugged.
Commissioner Dreelan noted her concern for a four car garage.
She inquired as to the necessity of having such a large
garage. Mr. Deeb responded the garage is a three car garage
) with a fourth door on the side. He stated the fourth door is
for his convenience in moving recreational and gardening
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equipment in and out of the garage. Commissioner Dreelan
inquired if the existing garage will be closed off. Mr. Deeb
responded yes and that the existing garage door will be
converted to french doors.
Ms. Kathleen Ridder, of Dodd Road, noted her concerns for the
drainage system.
Lacking a quorum, Commissioner Koll moved to suggest that the
City Council consider approving the removal of Pine Creek from
the Wetlands Map as per Mr. Steve Kernick, of the Dakota
County Soil and Water Conservation District; provide an
easement on Pine Creek to allow standard utilities along the
perimeter of the property and grant approval of the wetlands
permit for the driveway, house and garage.
Vice Chair Duggan stated he is not in favor of this motion.
Mr. Fred Peterson, 1770 Dodd Road, stated that Mr. Deeb's
garage should be attached. He further stated that Pine Creek
does overflow and that the entire wetlands designation should
be removed. He stated that Mr. Deeb should not get special
treatment. He further stated that he received notice from the
City when the creek was going to be realigned. He also stated
he has pictures of when the creek is flowing.
Mr. Deeb stated that he is not asking for the Pine Creek
culvert to be moved back to its original state. He stated Mr.
Kernick, of the Dakota County Soil and Water Conservation
District, only reviewed Pine Creek wetlands on his property,
not along it whole length.
In response to a question from the Commission, Mr. Deeb stated
he would like an detached garage as he does not want petroleum
products in his home, there are safety concerns, less noise
and he is able to receive cheaper insurance rates. He stated
it is also much more expensive to build an attached garage.
Vice Chair Duggan stated he is uncomfortable with the size of
the structure next to the wetlands. In response to a question
from Vice Chair Duggan, Mr. Deeb stated there is fifteen feet
(15') from edge of garage to the trees. He further stated
that no vegetation will be altered.
Commissioner Koll stated she is concerned about the size of
the garage next to the wetlands. She further stated the
Council is currently reviewing an ordinance amendment
regarding the size of garages.
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Lacking a quorum, Commissioner Koll moved to suggest that the
City Council consider granting Mr. Deeb Wetlands Permit and a
Conditional Use Permit for Accessory Structure with the
following conditions:
1. Size of the garage to be less than 988 square feet.
2. The tuck under garage door be removed and replaced with
french doors.
3. Landscape and/or seed the entrance to the old garage.
4. Building materials and colors to match the existing
house.
5. Landscaping on Dodd Road be completed to help screen the
structure from Dodd Road.
Commissioner Dreelan stated she agrees with Commission Koll in
that the proposed garage is too large of a structure next to
the wetlands.
Mr. Deeb inquired as to how the size of the garage was
determined. Commissioner Koll responded that a three car
garage is equal to 800 square feet. Vice Chair Duggan stated
675 square feet would be more appropriate
HEARING:
CASE NO. 93-26:
MCDONALDS CORPORATION
CUP
Mr. Fred Reynolds, of McDonald's Corporation, was present
representing the McDonald's Restaurant located at 2020 Dodd
Road, to request a Conditional Use Permit to allow the
•construction of a free standing, 120 square foot
cashiers/face-to-face booth.
Mr. Reynolds explained that it will be a remote structure with
the exterior matching the existing building. He explained
that the unit will be constructed in the existing landscape
island area behind the restaurant. He explained that the
purpose of the booth is to improve customer satisfaction. He
explained the single existing booth is capable of handling 73
cars per hour in the drive-thru. He stated with the added
booth, the capacity will increase to 114 cars per hour. He
further stated that in the future, the booth will be
incorporated into a face-to-face ordering concept. He stated
that with this process, the order is placed with a person
instead of the menu board.
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In response to a question from Vice Chair Duggan, Mr. Reynolds
stated there will be two individuals within the booth during
times of operation. He stated the booth will be used during
peak hours and that it will have a camera system and monitors.
He further stated there will be no food preparation within
this booth and that condiments will only be given to the
customers.
Commissioner Dreelan stated there is not enough room to allow
cars to stack as it will interfere with the handicap parking.
Mr. Reynolds responded that he will relocate the handicap
spots. Commissioner Dreelan inquired if there is a
•landscaping plan completed. Mr. Reynolds stated a plan has
just been completed and he then submitted it to the
Commission.
In response to a question from Commissioner Koll, Mr. Reynolds
stated the exterior lighting remains the same.
Lacking a quorum, Commissioner Koll moved to suggest that the
City Council consider granting the Conditional Use Permit to
allow the construction of a cashier's/face-to-face booth at
the McDonalds Restaurant located at 2020 Dodd Road with the
following conditions:
1. Submittal of landscape plans for review by City staff.
2. Submit to the City operational safeguards to enhance
security.
3. Relocate the handicap parking stalls.
HEARING:
CASE NO. 93-28:
HEAVER -
VARIANCE
Mr. Keith Heaver, representing the owners of 1680 Dodd Road,
was present to discuss their request for a rear yard setback
variance to allow the construction of a single family home.
Mr. Heaver stated that they agree with Planner Uban in that
they will designate the front yard to be on the southern edge
of the property adjacent to the outlot for driveway purposes
eliminating the need for a rear yard variance. Planner Uban
stated that Dodd Road is a heavily traveled road and that the
City should avoid having driveways on Dodd Road. He further
stated that other homes have been oriented to a private drive.
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He further stated that with corner lots, the owner may pick
the orientation of the home as long as it meets the zoning
criteria.
Mr. Bob Salmen, owner of 1694 Dodd Road, stated his property
is located to the east of the proposed home. He stated that
his home faces the south and that the other homes in the area
face to the west. He stated he is concerned with the setback
of the proposed home and not the orientation of it. He
further explained that he is currently reviewing a possible
subdivision of his property and is concerned that the setback
of the Heaver home is too close.
Mr. Heaver explained the front elevation of the home will be
south facing. He further stated they do not want to access
the new driveway onto Dodd Road. He stated they will maintain
the trees as a buffer. He stated there are some requirements
they need to adhere to related to the wetlands area. He
stated they have pushed the home as far back as possible. He
stated there is a high water table that they are dealing with.
Mr. Heaver explained that the first 300 feet of the driveway
will be gravel and then asphalt. Vice Chair Duggan stated the
Fire Department is not comfortable with a fourteen foot (14')
wide driveway. Mr. Heaver responded that this is an issue he
will need to discuss with the neighbors in the area as it is
a shared driveway. He further stated that he does not want to
remove a lot of trees. He further stated he would like to
begin construction as soon as possible. Duggan stated that
trees will need to be identified and that a twenty foot (20')
wide driveway is needed for emergency vehicle access.
Commissioner Koll inquired if there are drainage problems due
to the clay in the area. Vice Chair Duggan stated there were
drainage concerns during the Somerset Area discussions.
Public Works Director Danielson stated that the wetlands is
not on the City Wetlands Map. He stated that there have been
soil tests taken and that it appears that with some soil
exchange, the construction of the home will work. He further
stated that the wetlands is landlocked in that there is no
outlet for the water to flow. Danielson stated Ms. Kathleen
Ridder, of 1744 Dodd Road, has expressed to him that she is
concerned about the landlocked wetlands and that the City
should account for the problem by acquiring an easement for
utilities.
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Mr. Fairbairn, owner of 1680 Dodd Road, stated he is
comfortable with the results of the soil testing. Vice Chair
Duggan stated that Mr. Heaver should work closely with City
building officials during the construction of this home.
Public Works Director Danielson stated that Ms. Ridder has
also expressed her concern with the high water table.
•Mr. Salmen stated he would like to see the houses spaced more
apart.
Mr. Nelson, of 1660 Dodd Road, stated he is the property owner
to the north of the proposed home. He noted his concerns for
the drainage in the area when the new homes are constructed.
Danielson stated the wetlands is without an outlet and it has
been functioning adequately. He further stated it would be
prudent for the City to plan for an outlet. Danielson stated
that Ms. Ridder would want to include an outlet with the
development of her property. Danielson stated he could
calculate the amount of water runoff in the area.
Lacking a quorum, the Planning Commission moved to suggest
that the City Council consider approving the construction of
a single family home on Lot 1, Block 1, T and LT Addition with
the designation of the front yard on the southern edge of the
property (adjacent to the outlot used for the driveway) with
the following conditions:
1. Development of the property is subject to wetland
preservation practices and the recording of a
conservation easement for the protection of the wetlands
along Dodd Road.
2. The upgrade of the existing common driveway to meet fire
code standards.
The Planning Commission further requested staff to calculate
the amount of water runoff.
VERBAL REVIEW
Public Works Director Danielson provided a verbal review for
the Planning items at the previous City Council meeting.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the Planning Commission
adjourned its meeting at 10:15 o'clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary