1994-10-25 Planning Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION
OCTOBER 25, 1994
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was
held on Tuesday, October 25, 1994, in the City Hall Council
Chambers, 1101 Victoria Curve. The meeting was called to order at
7:30 o'clock P.M. The following members were present: Koll,
Friel, Betlej, Dwyer, Lorberbaum, Duggan and Tilsen. Also present
were Public Works Director Jim Danielson, Planning Consultant John
Uban, Administrative Assistant Kevin Batchelder and Senior
Secretary Kim Blaeser.
INTRODUCTION OF NEW MEMBER
Chair Dwyer introduced new Planning Commissioner Sally
Lorberbaum to the Commission and community.
ANNOUNCEMENT
Chair Dwyer announced that on October 26, 1994 the
Metropolitan Airports Commission will conduct a public hearing
on the MSP Long Term Comprehensive Plan Alternative Document.
He announced that the hearing will be held at Washburn High
School, 201 West 49th Street, Minneapolis at 7:00 o'clock P.M.
and that all interested community residents should attend this
hearing as it relates to the future expansion options at MSP
including the possible future construction of additional
runways and terminal facilities.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Duggan moved to approve the September 27, 1994
minutes with corrections.
Commissioner Tilsen seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
ABSTAIN: 1, LORBERBAUM
CASE NO. 94-34:
SCHNEEMAN -
VARIANCE TO FRONT YARD
FENCE HEIGHT
Mr. Chris Schneeman, of 1561 Park Circle, was present to
discuss his request for a front yard fence height variance
which would allow the construction of a fence 40 inches to 48
inches in height within his front yard.
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Page 2
Mr. Schneeman explained that his home is situated on a corner
lot on an interior cul-de-sac in the Park Place neighborhood.
He explained that due to his need to properly contain the
family dog and to satisfactorily enclose his backyard area
which contains gardens, a swing set and compost area, a fence
of 48 inches will be necessary. He noted safety concerns
regarding neighborhood children frequenting his yard to visit
his dog. He further explained that the existing restriction
creates a hardship on the full use of his property that
property owners of other similarly sized lots enjoy.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Mr. Schneeman
explained that the rose arbor gate will be eight feet in
height with a four foot wide gate. He stated that the color
will be the same as the fence and that he will plant climbing
roses.
In response to a question from Commissioner Koll, Mr.
Schneeman stated that they are constructing the fence around
a blue spruce tree and that they have no specific plans to do
additional landscaping. Commissioner Koll suggested that Mr.
Schneeman consider planting shrubbery to help soften the
appearance of the fence.
Chair Dwyer noted that signatures of consent had been
received.
Commissioner Duggan moved to waive the public hearing.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Koll moved to recommend that the City Council
grant a fence height variance to allow a forty-eight inch
(48") fence with an eight foot (8') high rose arbor, as
proposed on site plans dated October 18, 1994.
CASE NO. 94-32:
HEAVER DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION -
SUBDIVISION/LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT
Mr. Keith Heaver, representing Mr. Jay Salmen owner of Lot 3,
Sutcliff Circle, was present to discuss his request for a
subdivision/lot line adjustment which would change lot lines
to accommodate adjustments in the utilities that serve Lots 3
and 2 and building orientation which will allow more rear yard
view orientation for Lot 3. (Mr. Heaver is the owner of Lots
1 and 2, Sutcliff).
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Page 3
Mr. Heaver explained that with the realignment of the lot
lines, all the lots will still meet the minimums in both lot
size and setback requirements. He explained that the
utilities were originally offset to the west on Lot 3 and the
lot line shift will correct this and line up the utilities
better.
Commissioner Tilsen noted that he would not be in favor of any
encroachments, especially the corner lot on Sibley Memorial
Highway, which will be compressed as a result of the lot line
adjustment. He stated that he does not want to see a variance
request for this corner lot in the future. He further stated
that he does not want to create a hardship situation and that
the developer should consider this when planning the
construction of a home. Mr. Heaver responded that the width
of Lot 1 will be 112 feet. He stated that he does not
anticipate any problems in placing a house on the footprint of
the lot.
Commissioner Lorberbaum noted that the desirability of the lot
should be considered and not just the marketability.
Commissioner Friel inquired about the vacation of easements as
a result of the lot line adjustment. Mr. Heaver stated that
new easements of five feet on each side of the property line
will be created. Commissioner Friel noted that the drainage
and utility easements should be clarified on the map prior to
City Council review.
Chair Dwyer stated that all signatures of consent have been
received.
Commissioner Duggan moved to waive the public hearing.
Commissioner Tilsen seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Tilsen moved to recommend that the City Council
grant the subdivision/lot line adjustment as requested
conditioned that the proper easements be provided for the new
lots lines.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
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Page 4
HEARING:
CASE NO. 94-31:
MENDOTA HEIGHTS UNITED CHURCH
OF CHRIST -
VARIANCE
Ms. Jeanne Lufkin, representing Mendota Heights Church of
Christ located at 680 Highway 110, was present to discuss a
request for a sign variance which would allow an additional
message board to the existing sign.
Ms. Lufkin stated that they are proposing to add a message
board to this sign so that events at the church can be
publicly noted on the sign. She stated that many churches
have message boards in addition to typical signage.
Commissioner Duggan noted that he drives by the church daily
and that if the right colors were chosen, the sign would be
more visible from the highway.
Planner Uban explained that the proposed addition to the
church's permanent signage is two by eight feet for sixteen
square feet on two surfaces for a total of thirty-two square
feet. He stated that with these message boards attached to
the existing signage the overall perceived impact on the
neighborhood should be lessened. Planner Uban clarified that
the church has already received a variance on the existing
sign for size.
Commissioner Friel stated that the Ordinance permits a 12
square foot sign in the "R" District and the church already
has an 80 square foot sign and is now adding another 32 square
feet. He stated that a hardship has not been presented,
although he understands the problem.
Commissioner Friel stated that churches within the "R"
District should have sign standards instead of an ad hoc
approach with variances. He further stated that the City
should focus on revising its sign ordinance.
Chair Dwyer stated that the Dodge Nature Center is the only
abutting property owner and that Dr. Gregory Lee has informed
the City that the Dodge Nature Center is not opposed to the
proposed sign addition.
Commissioner Duggan moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Tilsen seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
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Page 5
Commissioner Lorberbaum moved to recommend that the City
Council grant the requested sign size variance to allow a
temporary sign (Message Board) of thirty-two square feet, as
proposed.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 1, FRIEL
HEARING:
CAO 94-05:
WERTHAUSER -
CRITICAL AREA VARIANCE
Mr, Art Werthauser, owner of 1024 Sibley Memorial Highway, was
present to discuss his request for a Critical Area Variance
which would allow he construction of a wall within four feet
of an existing wall with materials consisting of interlocking
pre-cast concrete (Vers-Lok).
Chair Dwyer explained that Mr. Werthauser received a Modified
Site Plan approval to construct a single family home at 1024
Sibley Memorial Highway at the October 4 Council meeting. He
explained that Mr. Werthauser desires to enhance access to his
rear yard with the use of retaining walls. He stated that the
proposed wall does not comply with some of the existing
standards for retaining walls as stated in Section 2.5A(5) of
the Critical Area Ordinance. He explained that according to
the Ordinance, retaining walls are required to be separated by
twenty feet (20').
Chair Dwyer stated that the Planning Commission is charged
with only reviewing the request for the Critical Area
Variance. He further stated that apparently there is a
property line dispute between Mr. Werthauser and his neighbor
and that the Planning Commission should not be involved in
this matter.
Mr. Werthauser explained that his home is being placed on the
hillside and that retaining walls are needed. He stated that
his property slopes from east to west. Werthauser explained
that the home will be twelve feet (12') above the roadside
which allows for a better view of the bluff and that the house
will be high enough so he will not have to look at the
retaining walls on Victoria. He stated the house will be at
the same elevation as the house to the east. He further
explained that this property was originally owned by Shiely
and that they gouged the area out when fill was needed.
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Page 6
Mr. Werthauser submitted pictures of the retaining wall to the
Planning Commission. He stated that by constructing the
second wall, this will allow for removal of snow, handicap
access and mowing.
Commissioner Tilsen stated he had visited the site and noted
there were six trucks hauling in material. He inquired how
much material is needed to raise the house. Werthauser
responded approximately 1,200 cubic yards. Tilsen inquired if
a grading permit is needed. Public Works Director Danielson
stated yes.
Tilsen noted his concerns for drainage. He inquired if the
walls are being constructed within the natural drainage area.
Public Works Director Danielson stated no. Tilsen noted his
concern for the Critical Area bluffline. He stated that there
will quite a few trees removed. Werthauser responded that
most of the trees are diseased and are also scrub trees. He
further stated that he intends on replacing trees. Tilsen
inquired if there are any other options other than
constructing a second wall. He stated the house could be
lowered which will require less fill. He noted that this
would then lessen the view.
Commissioner Duggan stated he visited the site and that he
questions the concept of how well the view is from this site.
He stated that he could only see condominiums and a water
tower. He stated that by raising the house four feet, a
better view is not being accomplished. He further noted his
concern for drainage. He stated that the neighbors to the
west have informed the City that they had water problems until
drain tile was installed. Mr. Werthauser responded that all
of the drainage from his property will flow down his property
line. Werthauser stated that the retaining wall is located
two feet from his property line.
Duggan stated that the second wall will be four feet back from
the first and three feet high. He stated that there will be
another four feet to the garage. He stated that with the two
walls there will be a drop of twelve feet (12') plus the
garage wall. He stated that this will be a severe wall to
look at. Commissioner Duggan stated that according to the
Critical Area Ordinance, "the need for a variance should not
be created by the applicant's design solution".
Duggan suggested that evergreen trees are needed between the
wall and garage. He stated that with this suggestion, there
would no longer be a pathway. He further stated that the
submittal of a landscape plan is required by the Critical Area
Ordinance and that he had not seen a plan.
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Page 7
Commissioner Lorberbaum stated she had visited the site and
that she is concerned about changing the contours and
drainage. She inquired if the retaining wall will change the
drainage and if so, where will the drainage go. She stated
that the neighbor's yard is level and there was a lot of mud
near the wall area. Planner Uban responded the natural slope
is from the east to west and that the water comes across the
property to the west. He stated that with the construction of
the house, the drainage will be directed around the retaining
wall. He stated the overall drainage amount will not change
but will be concentrated around the retaining wall. He stated
there will be minimal impact with water. He further stated
that the muddy condition could have been created with the
construction of the house and that erosion control measures
should have been done. Mr. Werthauser stated that there
should not be mud.
In response to a question from Commissioner Betlej, Planner
Uban stated that the Ordinance allows a setback of two feet
(2') from the property line. He stated that this requirement
is more than a fence setback requirement but less than the
driveway setback requirement. Commissioner Betlej noted his
concerns for drainage with the possibility of water
accumulation near the wall area. He further stated that
procedurally, this process appears to be handled incorrectly
and with the substantial grading taking place, this should
have triggered Planning Commission review prior to the
building permit.
Commissioner Koll stated the Critical Area Ordinance states
that natural stone and wood are the allowable materials. She
stated that over the years, materials have been improved. She
inquired about the aesthetic value of poured concrete walls
verses boulder and wood retaining walls. She further inquired
if the Commission should be concerned, when referencing the
Critical Area Ordinance, in monitoring aesthetic value or
engineered value. Planner Uban responded that stone walls and
large boulder walls need concrete footings. He explained that
wood walls tend to rot. He stated that the integrity of the
bluffline may be more important. He further stated that the
new wall systems such as inter-locking decorative blocks have
some aesthetic appeal. He further stated that these walls can
be stepped or terraced and include landscaping. He stated
that these new wall systems have a longer life span and that
they are better engineered. Chair Dwyer stated there are
several walls similar to this request on Mendota Heights Road.
Planner Uban stated that retaining walls do help control
slopes.
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Page 8
Commissioner Koll stated that the original rationale behind
the ordinance was to use natural materials. She stated that
the new concrete systems can be used to look natural. Koll
further noted her concerns with the amount of fill and
potential drainage problems.
Mr. Werthauser stated with the construction of his home, there
will be two homes on six acres in this area. He stated there
is not a lot of runoff and that a lot of the drainage will be
absorbed. He stated the water will go down hill to the
highway storm sewer system. Commissioner Friel stated Mr.
Werthauser has a steep lot and that he is proposing to replace
the absorption with a driveway, house and swimming pool.
Planner Uban stated that he was requested to review the
variance request for a second retaining wall. He stated that
with the construction of the second retaining wall, the
drainage will not be changed but re-routed. He stated that he
did not review the drainage as it had already been approved
when City Council approved the house construction.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
Mr. and Mrs. Moore, 1028 Sibley Memorial Highway, submitted
pictures of Mr. Werthauser's first wall to the Commission.
Chair Dwyer acknowledged receipt of a letter from Mr. and Mrs.
Moore, Mr. Moore stated the Council made a mistake in
approving the building permit. He stated he would prefer no
building on this site. Commissioner Tilsen stated there has
been a building permit issued and that Mr. Werthauser has a
right to construct the one retaining wall. Tilsen inquired
what Mr. Werthauser would prefer, two retaining walls or one
which would lower the elevation of the house. Mr. Moore
inquired why the house cannot be lowered. He further stated
he would like to see additional landscaping.
Commissioner Duggan noted that according to the plans
submitted, there appears to be a significant amount of woods.
He stated that after grading the woods only exist on the east
edge of the property.
Commissioner Duggan inquired if Mr. Werthauser is using his
neighbor's property to drain. Public Works Director Danielson
stated that the conditions previous to construction of the
house still exist. He stated that the contours on the map
show a pre-existing low area. Mr. Moore stated there is
standing water in his backyard. Commissioner Duggan suggested
that maybe the existing drainage pipe does not work. Chair
Dwyer stated that the proposal/issue is the retaining wall and
that the Commission can express dissatisfaction with the City
Council preempting their review.
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Page 9
Mrs. Moore inquired if Mr. Werthauser needs to receive a
permit for hauling dirt. Commissioner Tilsen stated that the
City Council will need to address this issue. Mrs. Moore
inquired if the marketability of her house would be
jeopardized with the construction of the retaining walls. She
stated that the walls are nice looking.
Mr. Max Hill, neighbor to the west, noted his concern for
drainage coming across the Moore's property to his yard. He
stated there has been water in his basement since the City
installed the pond. He further stated he does not have a
problem with the second wall.
Public Works Director Danielson stated that if there is a
problem, the City will work with Mr. Werthauser. Mrs. Moore
stated there were some water problems in 1985 and since that
time, drain tile has been installed and they have not
experienced any problems.
Commissioner Duggan moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Tilsen seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Friel moved to recommend that the City Council
deny the variance request as it does not meet the requirements
set forth in the Critical Area Ordinance - Section 5.4. He
further stated that Mr. Werthauser consider other design
solutions.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that the applicant did indicate he
would correct any drainage problems if created by his
construction. He further noted that a grading permit may be
required by City Council.
Commissioner Friel amended his motion to suggest that the City
Council consider reviewing the neighborhood issues of drainage
and to further review grading permit issues. Commissioner
Tilsen added that Council consider placing a diversion swale
along the property line.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
HEARING:
CASE NO. 94-33:
GENERAL PUMP, INC. -
VARIANCES
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Page 10
Mr. Del Erickson, representing General Pump, Inc. - 1174
Northland Drive, was present to discuss a request for three
variances which would allow the construction of a shared
driveway and adjustment of the driveway to better accommodate
truck turning movements and a sign setback.
Mr. Erickson stated that it was the desire of the City Council
that General Pump construct a shared driveway as General Pump
owns both lots. He further stated that normally the setback
requirement for the truck turnaround area would be ten feet
but the site has frontage on the Interstate 494 and that is
why a variance is needed. He further stated that there will
be berming and landscaping completed for this area. He
further added that a twenty foot (20°) sign setback variance
is request, similar to other signs in the business park.
Commissioner Tilsen inquired about the proposed use of the
other lot. Mr. Erickson responded he does not know. He
further stated there will be 35 evergreen placed along the ten
foot setback.
Chair Dwyer acknowledged receipt of a plan submitted by Mr.
Erickson regarding sign dimensions. Mr. Erickson described
the sign material to be stone aggregate.
In response to a question from Commissioner Friel, Mr.
Erickson stated two lots were purchased by the owners and that
the lot line runs through the center. Commissioner Friel
inquired if there will be easements to control the shared
driveway. He stated that with two separate platted lots, an
easement or dedication will be required. Planner Uban
concurred. Commissioner Friel stated that this is just the
kind of circumstances that will need variances for undeveloped
lots in the future.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
There was no one present to discuss this request.
Commissioner Tilsen moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Tilsen stated that with any approval of a shared
driveway be predicated upon the fact that no variances be
granted for Lot 4 due to the driveway.
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Page 11
Commissioner Friel moved to recommend that City Council grant
the following variances:
1. A ten foot (10') driveway setback variance along 1-494 to
allow "bump out for truck maneuvering.
2. A twenty foot (20') front yard sign setback variance.
3. A ten foot (10') driveway side yard setback variance to
allow for a common driveway between Lots 3 and 4, Block
1, Northland Plaza Addition all subject to the filing of
an easement or dedication which establishes the shared
driveway with the understanding that should the applicant
desire to use the other parcel, a vacation could be
sought.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
Chair Dwyer called a recess at 9:25 o'clock P.M.
Chair Dwyer reconvened the meeting at 9:32 o'clock P.M.
CONTINUED HEARING:
CASE NO, 94-25:
MENDOTA HOMES -
REZONING AND
CUP FOR PUD
Mr. John Mathern, of Mendota Homes, and Mr. Bob Fors, of
Childtime Day Care, were present to discuss their request for
a Rezoning and a Conditional Use Permit for Planned Unit
Development which would allow the construction of 36 townhomes
and day care facility at the southeast quadrant of Mendota
Heights Road and Dodd Road.
Chair Dwyer explained that the Mendota Homes PUD has been
before the Planning Commission previously and has been
continued so that the developer can make plan adjustments
reflecting concerns of the Planning Commission and provide
additional information requested in the ordinance. Dwyer
explained that a petition was received by the City from the
Bridgeview Shores neighborhood in August. He acknowledged
receipt of letters received from Roxanne Wodarczyk, 2593
Lockwood Drive and Kenton Rinker, of 782 Pondhaven Lane
regarding Mendota Homes' application.
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Mr. Mathern explained that he is proposing a thirty six
townhome development with one day care facility. He stated
that both he and Childtime Day Care have responded to comments
from the Planning Commission and Planner Uban's report.
Chair Dwyer reviewed the October 24, 1994 report from Planner
Uban regarding the Barton-Aschman traffic report and the
concerns with stacking and turning movement delays. Mr.
Mathern stated that this is not an uncommon traffic situation
and that Barton Aschman is nationally recognized for its
expertise in traffic analysis. Commissioner Duggan inquired
if the driveway could be moved. Mr. Mathern responded that
there is some flexibility to move it towards the townhomes.
Commissioner Duggan stated he is concerned that this will
still be inadequate.
In response to a question from Commissioner Duggan regarding
Barton-Aschman's traffic study and peak hours, Mr. Mathern
stated that the identified peak hours, for the day care
traffic, will be 7:00 A.M. to 9:00 A.M. and from 4:00 P.M. to
6:00 P.M. He stated that Barton-Aschman has indicated 61
trips, per hour, during peak hours. Planner Uban stated that
he questioned Barton-Aschman's analysis and that Barton-
Aschman provided him with an amended analysis. He informed
the Commission that Barton-Aschman's analysis has been amended
to Evening Peak Hour Trip Generation at 97 trips (45 in, 52
out) and Morning Peak Hour at 96 trips (52 in, 44 out).
Planner Uban stated that these revised numbers do not change
the perception of a traffic problem.
In response to a question from Commissioner Betlej, Planner
Uban stated that some of these trips include people already
using the roadways. Commissioner Betlej stated that there may
be a heavier traffic situation with the commercial trade area
to the south of the day care. Planner Uban stated that people
like to have their day care near their home and not their
work.
Commissioner Duggan stated the Commission should focus on the
number of trips generated by the day care. In response to a
question from Chair Dwyer, Planner Uban stated that there
would be 100 cars in and out of the day care in peak period.
He stated that peak hour periods are identified as two hours.
He explained that when the traffic number is doubled, it is
assumed that that number is split over each hour.
In response to a question from Commissioner Tilsen, Planner
Uban stated there are 26 parking stalls. Commissioner Duggan
inquired if there is a formula for calculating parking.
Duggan noted his concern for not enough parking as parents
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will be escorting their children into the building and during
peak hours, with one child every minute being escorted into
the building, there will be traffic congestion with only 11
parking stalls available. Planner Uban stated that maybe not
all staff members will be at the day care during peak hours
and therefore more parking will be available. Commissioner
Duggan stated that Mendota Heights Road is a dangerous roadway
and that it is not a nice crossing as it exists now.
Mr. Mathern stated that Childtime Day Care and Barton-Ashman
have analyzed the traffic, signal lights and parking. He
stated that there are a few variables in the analysis and that
Barton-Ashman did not specifically focus on the intersection.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Mr. Mathern stated
there will be three lanes into the day care and two lanes out.
He stated that he feels the proposed number of lanes in and
out is reasonable and that movement through the intersection
will work. Chair Dwyer stated that he travels through the
Mendota Heights Road/Dodd Road intersection daily and that it
is an unpleasant intersection. He stated that he does not
have a lot of confidence in Barton-Ashman's report.
Commissioner Friel stated that he has difficulty with the
Barton-Ashman analysis. He inquired how to distinguish
between the percentage of traffic already on the street system
and the percentage generated by the immediate area. Friel
stated with only 285 feet established for stacking, there will
be stacking in the parking lot also. Planner Uban stated that
no matter how many people leave the day care, stacking is the
same. Planner Uban stated that the sequence of lights is two
minutes and that most people will be going left to 1-494. He
stated that people will be leaving the day care and joining
the stream in its sequence. He stated to leave the day care
may only take 30 seconds and as Barton-Ashman is reporting,
the stacking-problem does not seem severe. He stated that we
will not know until the signal lights are installed.
Commissioner Friel stated that fifty percent more vehicles
will stack into the parking lot. He further stated that he
does not believe that there is less density in the southeast
area than originally planned.
Commissioner Duggan briefly discussed a 1993 report from MnDOT
estimating the number of trips for one hour to be 100. He
stated that is a twenty five percent increase, which is
substantial. He stated that since 1993, there has been more
units constructed on Mendota Heights Road and with an
additional 36 townhomes and a day care, the traffic increase
will be substantial. Planner Uban responded that some of
these trips exist today and that the Barton-Ashman report
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discounts this and assumes the worse case scenario. Uban
stated that there will not be a 25 percent increase in
traffic, that the increase will be in circulation with the
left turns being increased. In response to a question from
Chair Dwyer, Uban stated there will be an increase in
congestion and that Barton-Ashman's report indicates it will
be manageable.
Chair Dwyer stated that an additional market analysis summary
was submitted. He stated that the ChildTime, Inc. had denied
review of the full market study as it is considered
proprietary information. He stated that the City needs
assurance the market is viable to maintain the day care's
occupancy.
Mr. Fors submitted background information from the 1990
Census. He indicated the main market in 1990 was over 340
children under the age of five and that 80 percent of adults
in the community have Bachelor's Degree. He stated the City
has highly educated people with families. He stated there is
well over 400 children, now, under the age of five. He stated
the day care would have difficulty serving a large area as the
demand would be too great. Commissioner Duggan stated that by
the year 2000, those children will be over 12 years old and
then the day care's demographics will no longer be there. Mr.
Fors responded the School District projects a continued growth
in family. Commissioner Duggan stated he disputes the School
District' projections and that the number of children under
five will not always be there.
Mr. Mathern stated that he believes people will like the site
and that the market is viable for this type of facility. He
stated that Childtime feels the market is reliable.
Commissioner Tilsen acknowledged receipt of information
submitted by Jackie Easton, Bridgeview Shores resident,
regarding other day care facilities in the area.
In response to a question from Commissioner Lorberbaum, Mr.
Fors stated that Bright Start's capacity only allows for 80
children and that they do not provide full service meals. He
stated that Childtime will be a larger facility with more
services available.
Commissioner Lorberbaum stated that if 13 parking spaces are
available and during the winter time parents are undressing
toddlers for about fifteen minutes, there could be only 52
people parking in an hour. She inquired how 100 arrivals
will be handled. Mr. Fors stated that he believes the
assumptions on the amount of time is inadequate. He further
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stated that other day care facilities similar to Childtime
offer less parking than what is proposed at this site.
Chair Dwyer stated that some information has been provided
regarding financial viability of Mendota Homes. Commissioner
Betlej stated that if Mendota Homes intends to take down the
land with cash and close on it, Mendota Homes° balance sheet
does not give the appearance that this is feasible. Mr.
Mathern responded that he is in the process of applying for
construction loans and that at the time of final approval, the
financing becomes final. He further stated that at the time
of final platting, the project will move forward and Mr.
Putnam will convey the property to Mendota Homes. He further
stated that with public street improvements, assessments will
be charged against each property.
Commissioner Betlej inquired about how many projects Mendota
Homes is currently developing. Mr. Mathern responded that
there are two projects currently underway, one in Inver Grove
which is thirty percent complete and the other in Lilydale.
He stated that the Mendota Heights project will be their next
project. Mathern further indicated that he will furnish the
City with letters of credit for grading and landscaping.
In response to a question from Commissioner Betlej regarding
rising interest rates, Mr. Mathern stated that most buyers of
these townhomes are on their third or fourth home. He stated
that these people have equity within the community and that
they sometimes put 100 percent down on their new home.
Chair Dwyer briefly summarized the development schedule as
submitted by Mr. Mathern. He stated that development may
commence in January of 1995 with completion in 1996. He
further indicated that the day care hopes to begin operation
as early as 1995.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Mr. Fors stated it
is Childtime's intention to purchase the property from Mr.
Putnam.
In regards to the revised grading plan submitted, Commissioner
Tilsen stated that some softening has been included but that
he would like to see more. He stated he would like to see the
swales softened by 1/2 percent and that the driveways be
flattened. Mr. Mathern stated he has no difficulty with
accommodating the grade changes as suggested by Commissioner
Tilsen. Tilsen further stated that he would like to see the
units tucked more into the rear of the property which would
create more natural berming along the freeway. He further
stated that the landscape plan shows the driveways different
than the grading plan. Mr. Mathern responded that the
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landscape plan is only a concept and that the intention was to
provide information regarding numbers and types of trees.
Commissioner Tilsen stated the plan has improved but that he
would like to see everything lowered so there is a berming
effect along the freeway.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer regarding drainage.
Mr. Mathern stated that berming along Mendota Heights Road may
cause a drainage problem. He stated that more trees than
berming may help the situation. He stated that his first
priority in developing the plans was to include backyard
space. He further stated that people interested in these
types of townhomes do not want steps. He stated that he would
like to include backyard space without grades caused by
berming. Commissioner Tilsen stated the question is whether
or not walkouts or berming is wanted. Mr. Mathern responded
that there is no reason for units to be walkout and that he
can eliminate this idea with no problem. He stated that Lots
5,6 7 and 8 could be non-walkout and Lots 1,2 3 and 4 berm
could be extended along Mendota Heights Road.
In regards to the landscaping of the daycare, Mr. Mathern
stated the daycare will be landscaped. He further stated the
building has been moved to save some trees. He further stated
there will some lower plantings around the exterior of the
building and fence area. He stated that visibility is a key
factor when landscaping a day care facility.
Chair Dwyer inquired if the City Attorney has reviewed the
Homeowner's Association documents.
In response to a question from Commissioner Duggan, Mr.
Mathern stated the play area will be located south and west of
the building. Duggan responded that some of the property is
sloped in the southwest corner. Mathern stated that area will
have to be fenced and can be modified to accommodate the
sloped area.
Mr. Mathern briefly explained the number of trees which will
be removed and replaced. He indicated that 17 trees will be
destroyed and that some will be moved to be saved. He further
stated that the backdrop trees will likely be saved and that
the building area trees will be lost. Commissioner Duggan
stated that there will be significant changes in the area and
that a great effort in landscaping should be accomplished. He
stated the replacement of trees should be monitored.
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Chair Dwyer stated that street locations have not been
changed. Mr. Mathern stated that street locations are
appropriate. He explained that the exits are at the property
lines on the western access. He stated that the eastern
access is pointed at the side of Lot 5 with full plantings on
the north side of the street.
Commissioner Tilsen inquired if a full service day care is
needed in the City. He stated that the availability of home
care within the City should be valued. He further inquired if
the City wants to encourage home care providers. He inquired
if 15 staff members for 177 children is a direction the City
wants to pursue.
Planner Uban explained that for comparative information, he
noted the impact on density if the 10,000 square foot lot
average is met and if the 25 percent impervious surface is
met. (Density allow 33.5 lots and 30 units are allowed by
the requirements for 25 percent impervious surface).
Commissioner Duggan briefly reviewed the calculations for
density. He stated that the maximum is 33.5 and not 36, based
on density.
Commissioner Friel that the calculations for impervious
surface comes up different. He stated that the 25 percent
requirement is a hard number that neither the Planning
Commission or City Council can grant a variance to. Chair
Dwyer stated that Mr. Mathern is aware of this requirement, as
per the October 12, 1994 letter from Mr. Mathern, and the
despite the plan being good, it does exceed the impervious
surface requirement. Commissioner Friel stated that even if
a variance were justified, no hardship has been presented.
Friel further noted that the corrections to the August
Planning Commission minutes include that Mr. Mathern provide
the Commission with information on the underlying subdivision
variances. Mr. Mathern inquired if the City Council and
Planning Commission have no authority to grant a variance to
increase the units to 36. He inquired if this was set in
"stone". He stated that he would not be wasting everybody's
time if he had been aware of this. Commissioner Friel
responded that there is no authority to grant a variance
according to Section 22 of the Zoning Ordinance, Mr. Mathern
stated he does not have the ability to reduce the impervious
surface.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that a fifty five foot (55') right-
of-way may allow some gain in land. Mr. Mathern inquired if
this would work in his favor. Planner Uban responded yes.
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Mr. Mathern explained that he is providing heavy landscaping
with underground irrigation. He stated that he is providing
one level units which use up land with large footprints which
are marketable. He stated that he would like 36 units and he
believes that this makes good use of this site. Commissioner
Friel inquired if there is an economic advantage in keeping
the development at 36 units. Mr. Mathern stated yes.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
Mr. Kent Rinker, 782 Pondhaven, apologize for his late
delivery of his letter dated October 21, 1994. Rinker stated
that the language within Sections 22.1B, 22.3(1) and 22.3(6)e
are clear in that a variance is not allowed. He stated that
even if a variance is allowed, it is not a five percent
variance but a twenty percent variance. He further stated
that according to Sections 22.1, 22.2 and 22.3(6)f, a density
variance is prohibited for financial benefit. Rinker further
inquired if there is really 10 acres of land. He further
stated that Section 22.1b clearly states that PUD should
consist of entirely residential, therefore a day care cannot
be considered. He stated that another variance would need to
be granted.
Rinker stated that evidence of financial status has not been
accurately met. He stated that the traffic report assumptions
are questionable. He further stated that according to the
Subdivision Control Ordinance land dedication or cash
dedication be submitted. He stated that the day care site
equals 10 percent of the site and that that site could remain
open and serve as the park dedication.
Mr. Kenneth Severson, 2496 Westview Terrace, stated he
conducted a two hour survey of traffic on Mendota Heights
Road. He stated he counted 525 cars in two hours. He noted
his concerns for increased traffic.
Ms. Jana Patrick, 2536 Arbor Court, stated that Bright Start
has problems with parking and that they offer different types
of programs on a regular basis. She further inquired if
Childtime's report include stay at home children. She stated
she would like to see single family homes constructed on this
property. She stated this would generate less traffic.
Commissioner Duggan inquired if there are parking restrictions
enforced on Mendota Heights Road. Public Works Director
Danielson responded not at this time. He further stated that
a no parking zone should be considered with the construction
of a new left turn lane.
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Ms. Jackie Easton, Bridgeview Shore resident, reviewed
information she submitted regarding day care facilities in the
area. She commented that Visitation is the only day care
facility with no openings. She further discussed the new
Metro II site which serves as Extended Day for Kindergartners
from ISD No. 197. She further stated that there are 12
individual day care providers in the area, which includes
herself. She stated that cars come at scattered times or all
at the same time. She further stated that Childtime did not
research the use of Nanny's in the area.
Mr. Mike Dumer, Arbor Court, stated he does not want to see
the day care with the townhouses. He further stated that he
feels that people buying the townhouses would not want a loud
heavily trafficked day care next to their place of residency.
He further stated that the City should review financial
statements more thoroughly.
Mr. Doug Rickert, 550 Abbey Way, stated that the traffic
report does not include traffic from throughout the day. He
stated that there are at least 300 cars between the hours of
9:00 A.M. and 4:00 P.M. He further noted his concern for
sight distances. He noted his concerns for families safety as
related to traffic increase. He noted his concerns with the
developer's financial ability in completing the work.
Commissioner Tilsen moved to close the public hearing.
Ms. Easton inquired if emergency vehicles would have enough
access in and out. Mr. Mathern stated the fire marshal would
review this information.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Friel moved to recommend that the City Council
deny the rezoning request from R-1 to MR-PUD. He stated that
it is unnecessary to rezone as all the applicant seeks to
accomplish can be accomplished by proceeding as a PUD under
Section 22 of the Ordinance and that application for a CUP for
a PUD is before the City.
Commissioner Friel further moved to recommend denial of the
CUP for PUD because based on the record before the City it
will adversely affect the public health safety and welfare and
is not in compliance with the PUD Ordinance Section 22 in the
) following specific requests:
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a. It fails to meet the impervious surface requirements of
Section 22 and in fact exceeds them by 20 percent
(22.1B).
b. It fails to meet the density requirements of Section 22
utilizing for that purpose the calculation process of
Section 22.3(3) and applying the MR-PUD requirement of
not more than four units per calculated acre.
c. Even assuming that a variance from the impervious surface
requirements and/or the density requirements of Section
22 was permitted, the applicant has presented no evidence
of hardship and in fact has advised the Planning
Commission that his failure to meet those requirements is
entirely for the economic advantage of additional units
which our Ordinance clearly indicates is not a
justification for variance.
d. It is the finding of the Planning Commission based on the
evidence before it that the traffic generated by a
proposed day care center to serve 117 children and the
proximity of its entrance to Highway 149 is inconsistent
with the maintenance of public safety and health at the
intersection of Mendota Heights Road and Dodd Road, and
in fact creates a public safety problem.
e. There is a clear lack of any hard evidence before the
Planning Commission to support the requirement of Section
22 that adequate funding is available to the applicants
to complete the project.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
DISCUSS ORDINANCE REVISIONS
DETACHED GARAGES AND STADIUMS
IN R-1
Due to the lateness of the meeting, the Commission continued
this discussion to their November meeting.
VERBAL REVIEW
Public Works Director Danielson informed the Commission of
City Council action on previous planning cases.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the Planning Commission moved
to adjourn its meeting at 11:52 o'clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary