1994-11-22 Planning Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHT
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 22, 1994
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was
held on Tuesday, November 22, 1994, in the City Hall Council
Chambers, 1101 Victoria Curve. The meeting was called to order at
7:30 o'clock P.M. The following members were present: Betlej,
Dwyer, Lorberbaum, Duggan and Tilsen. Commissioner Friel had
notified the Commission that he would be late. Commissioner Koll
was excused. Also present were Public Works Director Jim
Danielson, Planning Consultant John Uban, Administrative Assistant
Kevin Batchelder and Senior Secretary Kim Blaeser.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Tilsen moved to approve the October 25, 1994
minutes with corrections.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
Commissioner Duggan moved to approve the October 24, 1994 City
Council/Planning Commission Workshop minutes.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
HEARING:
CASE NO. 94-35 -
SIGN ART -
SIGN VARIANCE
Mr. Bob Sherlock, of Sign Art, was present to discuss a
request from Barbara Lee's Dental Office located at 780 South
Plaza Drive for a sign setback variance.
Chair Dwyer explained there are two small signs close to the
street curb within the right-of-way of South Plaza Drive. He
explained that the request is to replace those two small non-
conforming signs with a single six foot by eight foot (6° x
8') monument sign. He stated that the sign is in compliance
with the size requirements of the zoning ordinance. He
explained that the location of the sign is the reason for the
variance request.
Commissioner Tilsen stated he had visited the site and found
there is a sign on the building. Tilsen stated he felt there
is a proliferation of signs along South Plaza Drive. He
explained there is a temporary "For Lease" sign on the bank
property along with signs for Holly Homes, Bright Start and
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the insurance company. He stated that the amount of signs on
this road looks clumsy.
Tilsen stated he would like to see this sign downsized and he
questioned the need for the sign to be lit. He stated he does
not want to see the sign lit all night.
Commissioner Duggan stated that setting the sign back ten feet
(10') makes sense to advertise the business. He stated that
he understands why Ms. Lee would like a new sign since there
is a new dental office opened in the area. He stated he likes
the design of the sign and that he too does not want to see
the sign lit all night. He stated he is in favor of allowing
a business to be successful.
Commissioner Lorberbaum stated that she would like more
specific hours of illumination specified.
Commissioner Betlej inquired about hardship. Mr. Sherlock
responded that Ms. Lee is trying to gain visibility for her
dental practice. He explained that first time clients have
had a hard time finding the office. He further stated that
Ms. Lee is trying to take advantage of the flow of traffic on
Dodd Road and that if the sign were setback thirty feet (30'),
it would not be visible from Dodd Road. Betlej noted his
concern for the amount of signs on South Plaza Drive. He
further stated that some of the signs may not be in compliance
with the zoning ordinance. Public Works Director Danielson
responded that some of the signs have a variance and others
are existing, non-conforming signs.
Betlej noted his reluctance in approving this request due to
the amount of existing signs on the street. Planner Uban
pointed out that it is possible that the other businesses in
the area may see an up-to-date sign and decide to change their
signage. Betlej stated there is a tendency to want larger
signs to compete with all the others and that maybe such a
large sign is not necessary. Planner Uban stated that the
size of the sign requested is in compliance with the zoning
ordinance.
Commissioner Duggan stated that the placement of the sign is
appropriate because it keeps the sign forward of the existing
trees. Betlej stated that sign is nice looking and that he
would like to see the size reduced, if it encroaches on the
setback.
Mr. Sherlock stated that Ms. Lee would like to keep the
maximum size allowed for the sign. He stated that she is
making an investment in signage and that she would like it to
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benefit her business. He stated that she wants to gain
visibility. He explained that it will be an aluminum sign,
and will be internally lit. He explained that the dentist's
name and address will be lit and not the entire sign. He
stated that this sign is not like the bank sign as it will be
more architecturally subdued. Chair Dwyer inquired if the
sign will be lit continuously. Mr. Sherlock explained that
the sign can be installed with a photo cell and that a timer
can be used
Chair Dwyer stated that the hardship is in saving the trees
which serves the purpose of screening the parking lot.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
There was no one present to discuss this request.
Commissioner Duggan moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Tilsen seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Tilsen inquired if staff and/or Planner
researched the signs along South Plaza Drive for zoning
ordinance compliance. Planner Uban responded no.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated that the bank has
received a variance and that Bright Start has a sign under
their conditional use permit.
In response to a question from Commissioner Duggan, Planner
Uban stated the proposed sign is large and that it could be
reduced in height. He suggested that the sign may be
decreased in height to five feet (5'). Mr. Sherlock responded
that that would not be a problem.
Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend that the City Council
grant a sign setback variance to allow the sign to be placed
within ten feet (10') of the right-of-way with the following
conditions:
1. That the illumination be turned off 1/2 hour after close
of the business.
2. That the sign be reduced in height to no more than five
feet (5') with proportionate reduction in width to six
and one half or seven feet (6 1/2' or 7').
3. That a minimal level of illumination intensity be used.
4. That and redevelopment or intensification of the use of
the property will require all signage to meet City
setbacks.
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5. That all existing signage be removed.
Mr. Sherlock stated that both sides of the sign will be lit.
Commissioner Friel arrived at 8:10 o'clock P.M.
Commissioner Tilsen requested that staff/planner research
signs along South Plaza Drive for variances and non-conforming
signs. He further inquired if additional language should be
added to the sign ordinance regarding minimal illumination.
He further inquired if there is an appropriate level of
candlepower for signs within the B-1 zone. He suggested that
staff find examples of light intensity standards from other
cities. Chair Dwyer stated that this information could be
placed on a future Planning Commission agenda for discussion.
Chair Dwyer seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
ABSTAIN: 1, FRIEL
Commissioner Friel was not present for this discussion
HEARING:
CASE NO. 94-36:
SALMEN -
SUBDIVISION AND VARIANCE
Mr. Bob Salmen, owner of 1694 Dodd Road, Lot 2, Block 1, T and
J Addition, was present to discuss his request for splitting
his lot into two lots which would allow him to have a second
lot created so that he may build a home on that lot in
approximately five to ten years. Both his existing lot and
the proposed new lot do not front on a public street, thus
requiring a variance.
Commissioner Tilsen inquired how many homes should be on a
driveway before it has to be a public street. He stated that
four homes on a driveway is a lot and he wondered when the
City should draw a line. Chair Dwyer stated that the Mazarra
request included three homes on a private driveway. Tilsen
further stated that Mr. Salmen's request includes a steeper
and longer driveway. He further inquired if the lots to the
south request access too. Mr. Salmen responded that the
properties to the south have their own road. He further
stated that emergency vehicle turnaround will be on the
interior of the lot versus public turnaround. Chair Dwyer
stated that the recent Fairbairn approval was conditioned upon
a ten foot (10') easement for possible public road.
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Mr. Salmen stated he would do the same.
Commissioner Duggan inquired if Mr. Salmen, as per Planner
Uban's report, would allow an easement for both lots to help
preserve the potential right-of-way for future public use. He
further stated •that the easement agreement will have to
clarify as to whether it gives the rights for Lot 2 to split
crating a new entity for the easement. He further stated that
the issue for snow removal needs to be clarified. He further
stated the easement should also be changed to create rights
for public access and covering the rights of the newly created
lot for access across the fifty foot (50') area. Mr. Salmen
stated he would abide by the suggestions and clarify the
changes within the agreement.
Commissioner Duggan noted his concerns for the steepness of
the driveway grade and that four houses will be located on one
private driveway. He further inquired if a private driveway
could accommodate traffic such as cars, garbage trucks and,
snow plows. Public Works Director Danielson responded that if
the private driveway accommodates an emergency vehicle, such
as a fire truck, then it will accommodate other vehicles.
Commissioner Lorberbaum inquired if there will be space
available for parking should there be a social function. She
stated she does not want to see parking on Dodd Road. She
further inquired if the home would be placed in line with the
existing homes. Mr. Salmen stated that the design of the
house on the submitted plans is not his design and that he
intends to place his new home in line with the existing house
setback. Lorberbaum further inquired about utility easements.
Mr. Salmen stated that the easements need to be clarified.
Public Works Director Danielson stated that Mr. Salmen will
need to provide an easement for vehicle turnaround. He
further stated that the property to the east is owned by Mr.
Boyle and that Mr. Boyle would also need to grant a ten foot ,
(10') easement through his property.
In response to a question from Commissioner Friel, Public
Works Director Danielson stated that Mr. Salmen's property is
zoned R-1. Commissioner Friel stated he sees no compelling
reason to do anything at this time, and not until the home is
proposed. He further stated that the new lot will be large
enough to provide building sites for more than one additional
home. He further noted his concerns fundamentally with
private streets and the long term problems that become
municipal responsibilities.
) Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
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Page 6
Ms. Kathleen Ridder, 1744 Dodd Road, stated she was not aware
that the land was zoned R-1. She further stated that this lot
could be divided into three lots at 15,000 square feet each
with public roads. She noted her concern should these
subdivisions keep occurring without some sort of masterplan.
She stated there will be a "hodge podge" developments if these
subdivisions keep occurring. Chair Dwyer stated that the City
had been discussing with residents of the Somerset/Superblock
area regarding their plans for development for quite some
time. Ms. Ridder stated that there could be three lots on
50,000 square feet of land and that that is not good planning.
Ms. Ridder stated that each owner has the right to subdivide
but it needs to be in a coordinated fashion. She noted her
concerns for future developments. Mr. Saimen stated it is not
his intent to subdivide further. Commissioner Friel stated
the City has no authority to control private development but
that the City can set standards. He stated the City cannot
plan this area but only insist that it be developed within its
standards. Friel stated that private streets with easements
becomes a crossword puzzle for future problems with public
access and services. Ms. Ridder stated that a public street
would abut her property which would give her a whole new
configuration in developing her property.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Ms. Ridder stated
that her driveway services four homes, with two owners, and
that she maintains the driveway. Chair Dwyer stated that he
disagrees with Commissioner Friel and that he does not have a
problem with private roads. He stated that the City should
review these cases as they come in. He stated that Mr.
Salmen's request seems to be legitimate and that the City can
deal with the grading issue. He stated the Planning
Commission should recommend that a variance be granted to the
public frontage. Ms. Ridder explained that many years ago,
when she was a Planning Commissioner, insurance rates on
houses with private driveways was an issue and that is why she
has maintained the driveway as a private road. She stated it
is very expensive to maintain. She further stated that the
hill is a definite hazard.
Mr. Salmen stated he appreciates Ms. Ridders concerns and that
he is looking to minimize the development. He stated that Ms.
Ridder's concerns are self centered. Commissioner Tilsen
responded that Ms. Ridder's concerns are for the entire area
and that her points are not self centered. Mr. Saimen
inquired when the Gesell's built.
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Page 7
Commissioner Tilsen stated there is a lot of area to work with
along with future development of public roads. He stated that
Mr. Salmen plans not to subdivide in the future. He stated
that with his request to subdivide now, it puts the City into
a position of not having a lot of choices should a road need
to be constructed. He stated that a future cul-de-sac may be
needed and that additional easements will be necessary. Mr.
Salmen stated he does not see the need for a public street as
it will intrude on all of the lots. He stated that the nature
of surrounding developments have set precedent for his
request. Commissioner Tilsen stated that the City has been
consistent on requiring turnarounds and asphalt driveways for
subdivision requests with an extended private driveway.
Commissioner Friel stated that this request is not at all like
other requests. He stated the City does not know what type of
development will occur in five to ten years from now. He
stated that Mr. Salmen is asking the City to commit to
approving his subdivision request based on past precedents.
He further stated the City should not commit to granting
easements. He stated that the City may have to condemn this
private access in the future at a cost to be borne by the
community taxpayers.
Mr. Salmen inquired when the lots to the south were platted.
Ms. Ridder responded many years ago. She further stated that
there are no plans to develop this land. Commissioner Duggan
stated that he would support Mr. Salmen's request if he were
planning to construct his home now instead of five to ten
years from now. He stated the Planning Commission has
reviewed several applications which have caused a constant
encroachment of the open space in the area. He stated the
Planning Commission has been put into the position of meeting
existing needs of existing homeowners without having any
insight to future developments. Commissioner Friel pointed
out that the Harris property (Mazarra) was approved with a
private street with easements and was never developed.
Commissioner .Friel stated that the concern for future
development is not the size of lots but whether there will be
public access available to future developments. He stated
that the City does not want to be stuck with private streets
with owners who will not deed over to the City. He stated
that condemnation procedures will need to take place at the
community's expense. He reiterated that the City is not able
to project what will happen with future development in this
area.
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Page 8
Chair Dwyer stated that the applicant has agreed to give some
easements. Mr. Salmen inquired if this private driveway is
being looked at as a public entrance for the Ridder property.
Commissioner Friel replied no, but they could divide the
existing lots to have access on the north. Mr. Salmen stated
that he has plans to do some plantings now and that he has
long term plans for his own property and that his plans should
not be held up because of future plans by other property
owners in the area.
A discussion ensued regarding easement dedication and Mr.
Fairbairn, new homeowner on Dodd Road, explained that his
recollection of City Council approval of his development was
an easement dedication for utilities. He noted his concern
for development that would be inconsistent with current
development. He further stated he hopes there will not be a
drainage problem and that wetlands does dominate the area.
Commissioner Lorberbaum noted her concern for additional
impervious surface in the area. Mr. Salmen stated he noted
his concerns regarding this issue when Mr. Fairbairn presented
his development for review.
Commissioner Duggan stated the Planning Commission should
table this request, since there seems to be no urgency, to
clarify easements, drainage, and new and replacement
plantings. He stated that the Planner raised several concerns
which the applicant should clarify.
Chair Dwyer pointed out that according to the December 7, 1993
City Council minutes regarding the Fairbairn case, the Council
insisted on an easement for street and that the Mayor was
asking for a sixty foot (60°) right-of-way. Dwyer stated that
Mr. Salmen has presented a hardship in that he wants to
subdivide his property and he has no public access.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that if the City right-of-way, then
an easement a turnaround is needed as the lots go two or three
lots deep.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Mr. Salmen stated
time is a problem and that he believes his request is a fair
one. He further stated he does not want to be put out as the
City's guinea pig.
In response to a question from Ms. Ridder, staff confirmed
that a part of the superblock area is R-1. Ms. Ridder stated
that a public road in this location would give her more
development options.
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Page 9
Commissioner Duggan moved to table the subdivision and
variance request until January 24, 1995 to allow Mr. Salmen,
time to clarify issues raised by the Planning Commission. He
further stated that the Planning Commission is not against Mr.
Salmen's request.
Commissioner Lorberbaum seconded the motion.
Commissioner Tilsen offered a friendly amendment directing the
Fire Chief and Police Chief to review Mr. Saimen's request
regarding safe emergency vehicle access.
AYES: 5
NAYS: I, DWYER
Chair Dwyer opposed continuing the public hearing until
January.
HEARING:
CASE NO. 94-37:
WERTHAUSER -
CUP FOR LAND RECLAMATION
Mr. Art Werthauser, owner of 1020 Sibley Memorial Highway, was
present to discuss his request for a Conditional Use Permit
for Land Reclamation which would allow him to fill
approximately 1,200 cubic yards for his new home.
Chair Dwyer stated that upon receiving a unanimous
recommendation for denial of his CAO wall setback variance
from the Planning Commission, Mr. Werthauser withdrew his
request and did not attend the November 1 City Council
meeting. Dwyer explained that the Moores and Hills attended
the November 1 City Council Meeting and requested that the
City Council withdraw Mr. Werthauser's building permit pending
consideration of his Conditional Use Permit for Land
Reclamation request. Because Mr. Werthauser was not present
at the November 1 meeting, the City Council conducted a
special meeting on November 7. Dwyer explained that at the
special meeting, Council considered input from the Moore's,
Werthauser, the public and the City Attorney, and then took no
action to withdraw Mr. Werthauser's building permit.
Chair Dwyer further explained that Mr. Werthauser's neighbors,
located to the west of his site, have made the City aware of
a long standing groundwater problem with their homes. He
stated the neighbors are concerned that the Werthauser
development will make their problems worse. Dwyer stated that
with the Conditional Use Permit process, the City has the
authority to grant a Conditional Use Permit and attach
conditions to the approval.
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November 22, 1994
Page 10
Chair Dwyer stated that Public Works Director Danielson has
suggested four possible conditions to the Conditional Use
Permit.
Chair Dwyer inquired if Mr. Werthauser would install gutters
and that the downspouts for the gutters be directed away from
the Moores to the greatest possible extent. Mr. Werthauser
responded yes. Chair Dwyer stated that the survey concludes
that Mr. Werthauser's surface water drainage, if properly
handled, will cause no increased water problems for the Moores
or the Hills. Public Works Director Danielson stated that if
there is a problem created by Mr. Werthauser's development,
the Moore's would have to grant Mr. Werthauser access onto
their property to correct the problem. Danielson stated that
Mr. Werthauser has indicated that he would correct any water
problem on the Moore's property should his development be the
direct cause of the problem.
In response to a question from Commissioner Tilsen regarding
drainage, Mr. Werthauser explained there is a minor ditch on
the east side of the driveway and that the driveway drains
northeast away from the Moore's property. Mr. Werthauser
described how the house has been lowered since the retaining
wall was denied. He explained that there has been 1,600 yards
of fill brought onto the site (1,200 yards compacted). He
explained that there have been 190 trucks bringing in fill
with approximately 7 yards of dirt per truck. He further
submitted weight calculation tickets to the Commission.
Mr. Werthauser explained that they ran into poor soil
conditions (peat) on the property and therefore another 200
yards of fill needed to be brought in. He explained that the
peat will be spread during the final grading process.
Mr. Werthauser explained that he has lowered the grade from
east to west and that he has designed this plan to the best of
his ability.
Commissioner Duggan stated that Mr. Werthauser has done a lot
to readdress and fix all of the concerns raised.
Commissioner Lorberbaum stated that Mr. Werthauser has
proposed a reasonable solution to address the problems and
that had Mr. Werthauser applied originally for a Land
Reclamation Permit she would have been against the request.
Commissioner Friel questioned Mr. Werthauser's calculations
and stated that 1,530 yards of fill had been brought to the
site. Mr. Werthauser stated that 1,150 yards of compacted
fill had been delivered.
)
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Page 11
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
Mr. Hill, neighbor to the west, stated this area was
originally a watershed area. He stated he has been a resident
for forty years. He stated he does not feel that Mr.
Werthauser should have to fill the lot just because he wants
to build his house at a higher elevation. He stated that Mr.
Werthauser is closing off the watershed area by constructing
his home. He further submitted pictures to the Commission.
He further stated that he would be better off discussing the
drainage problem after spring rains have occurred.
Mr. Moore, neighbor to the west, argued about the amount of
fill actually brought onto the site. He further stated that
he will not give Mr. Werthauser permission to enter his
property to correct any water problems. Commissioner Betlej
inquired if Mr. Moore's insistence on not cooperating with Mr.
Werthauser is based upon his attorney's advise or his own.
Mr. Moore responded that if Mr. Werthauser thinks he has
corrected the problem he will walk away and then a problem
could still exist. He further stated that Mr. Werthauser can
correct the problem on his own property.
Commissioner Friel inquired if the appropriate grading plan
has been submitted as per Section 4.12 of the Zoning
Ordinance. Public Works Director Danielson stated that
grading along the west of the property line could be cut down
to provide positive drainage.
Commissioner Duggan moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Friel seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Friel moved to recommend that the City Council
grant the requested Conditional Use Permit for Land
Reclamation subject to the following conditions:
1. The home have gutters and that the downspouts for the
gutters be directed away from the neighboring house on
the west to the greatest possible extent.
2. That all site drainage be directed away from the Moores
to the greatest extent possible.
3. That a catchbasin be installed in the rear yard to
capture drainage coming from the east and directing it
down the east side of the driveway.
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Page 12
4. That the grade along the west property line be
constructed so as to create positive drainage from south
to north.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
Commissioner Duggan inquired if the Planning Commission should
place a condition that Mr. Werthauser is to work with the
Moores in correcting the water problem. Mrs. Moore stated
that they had water problems during the spring of the year but
since 1985, when the drain tile was installed, they have not
had a problem. Chair Dwyer responded that the Planning
Commission should not endorse expectations that Mr. Werthauser
will fix any type of pre-existing water problems.
VOTE ON MOTION
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Chair Dwyer called a recess at 10:10 o'clock P.M.
Chair Dwyer reconvened the meeting at 10:20 o'clock P.M.
DISCUSS ORDINANCE REVISIONS
Chair Dwyer explained the City Council has directed staff and
the Planning Commission to consider recommendations for
Ordinance changes as a result of several recent land use
issues. He stated that the Council has specifically asked for
recommendations on Ordinances regarding Detached Garages in
the R-1 District, Athletic Stadiums in the R-1 Zone, and the
Critical Area Ordinance.
Commissioner Friel suggested that language be added to Section
7.2(10) to read Detached private garages. He stated that
staff's suggestion for 7.3(1) is fine and that Section 4.5(3)
should read "In all "R" Districts no accessory building shall
exceed one thousand (1,000) square feet. However, a detached
accessory structure which is a private garage shall be subject
to the size and permit requirements described in Section
7.2(10).
Commissioner Friel moved to recommend that these changes be
adopted as amendments to the Zoning Ordinance.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
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November 22, 1994
Page 13
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Chair Dwyer stated that at the October 24, 1994, Joint City
Council/Planning Commission Workshop, stadiums in the R-1
District were discussed. He explained the items that were
discussed were licensure for use of field lights and public
address systems in order to control their use. He further
stated that other standards to be discussed are:
1. Distance and location
2. Lights
3. Parking
4. Traffic
5. Public address systems.
Chair Dwyer stated there is already one stadium in place and
that now the City needs to consider other educational
facilities in the City with potential stadium uses.
Commissioner Tilsen stated the Commission should discuss
including restrictions on hours of use, number of games played
per week and year within the amendment.
Commissioner Friel stated the City should be concerned about
the number of times the facility is used with lighting. He
stated that the schools should note up front what type of uses
the facility will be used for and that it be restricted to
those uses under the Conditional Use Permit limitations.
Commissioner Friel stated that the kind of uses and traffic
concerns should be added to the above list of proposed
standards. He further stated that the Ordinance should be
more restrictive in residential areas than the commercial
district.
Commissioner Duggan stated the City needs to be careful in
limiting the specific uses of any stadium. He stated the City
should consider inviting the schools to discuss their
intentions for the types of uses for the stadium.
Commissioner Friel inquired if there are ordinances available
from other Cities. Chair Dwyer stated another concern may be
during the summer months when there may be an incentive for
the school to use the stadium for profit. Commissioner Duggan
stated that it is not St. Thomas Academy's intention to use
the stadium for non-school uses. He stated that it is known
that Mendota Heights Athletic Association uses St. Thomas
fields for their youth activities.
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Page 14
Commissioner Lorberbaum stated that specific standards
regarding the type of exterior materials, bleachers, capacity
seating and ADA requirements should be addressed within the
ordinance.
Chair Dwyer explained that also during the workshop, the
Critical Area Ordinance and Modified Site Plan procedures were
discussed. He stated the Council and Commission discussed
revising the procedures of Modified Site Plan reviews and
which factors should trigger Planning Commission involvement
in a Modified Site Plan review.
Chair Dwyer explained that Councilmember Krebsbach would like
the Planning Commission to review all applications related to
the Critical Area,
Chair Dwyer explained that staff has suggested that Modified
Site Plan could be allowed to proceed to City Council when the
site plan conforms to the standards of the CAO Ordinance, as
in the past, with some exceptions,:
1. Movement of earth, by grading, which results in a cut or
fill in excess of five (5) feet at any point on the
subject property.
2. When development of the property will result in the
substantial alteration or removal of natural vegetation,
trees, shrubs, rock outcroppings, water course, or scenic
amenities.
Commissioner Friel inquired how the Ordinance could
specifically regulate building below the bluff line.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated the Ordinance is
presently unclear. Commissioner Friel stated the City should
focus on reviewing applications proposing construction below
the bluffline. He stated the City is vitally concerned about
the sight lines. He stated the City should be defining
distances above or below the sight lines.
In response to a question from Commissioner Lorberbaum,
Planner Uban stated the staff could review other Cities (i.e.
Burnsville and Eagan) regarding their Critical Area
restrictions.
Commissioner Duggan stated the Critical Area Ordinance should
reflect concern on impact of neighbors, drainage and
vegetation.
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November 22, 1994
Page 15
Commissioner Friel submitted a proposed revisions of Sections
3.2(81) and 4.12 regarding mining and land reclamation. He
presented the revisions which would be intended to permit the
following without a conditional use permit:
A. Permit excavation for all structures which extend below
grade without any limit on the cubic yards that may be
removed, provided that a permit has been issued for the
development or structure by the City and-provided that
such excavation and any related grading will not
adversely affect surrounding property or development of
the site.
B. Permit the deposit of material which is excavated for
permitted structures which extend below the surface (i.e.
structures for which the City has issued a permit), so
long as the deposit of such materials does not elevate
the grade, and if it does elevate the grade then, not
more than 400 cubic yards may be deposited to elevate the
grade and then only so long as such deposition does not
adversely affect surrounding property or development of
the particular site.
Commissioner Friel further presented revisions to Section 22
Planned Unit Development - please see attached. The revisions
are regarding impervious surface on parcels being used for
residential and commercial development and to prohibit the
allowance of variances from the Planned Unit Development
provisions.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder explained that staff will
inform the City Council of the suggested revisions and that a
hearing will be conducted at the Planning Commission level.
He further stated that Council has asked the Commission to
review tree preservation ordinances.
MISCELLANEOUS
Chair Dwyer briefly discussed Independent School District
197's proposed Bond referendum in 1995 which could release
funds to construct two middle schools - one site in Eagan and
the other in Mendota Heights (corner of Mendota Heights Road
and Huber Drive). Dwyer suggested that a representative from
the City attend the School Board meeting to discuss Mendota
Heights concerns, especially related to traffic.
Commissioner Tilsen asked that staff review ordinances
regarding minimal lighting for signage.
Planning Commission
November 22, 1994
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DECEMBER MEETING
Due to the holiday season, the Planning Commission moved to
change its December 27, 1994 meeting date to December 29,
1994. It was noted that if there are no pending applications,
the Commission would be contacted about canceling the meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the Planning Commission moved
to adjourn its meeting at 11:10 o'clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary