2000-11-28 Planning Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
NOVEMBER 28, 2000
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was held on Tuesday,
November 28, 2000, in the City Hall Council Chambers, 1101 Victoria Curve. The meeting was
called to order at 7:30 p.m.
The following Commissioners were present: Chair Duggan, and Commissioners Betlej, Friel
(arrived at 8:30 p.m.), Lorberbaum, McManus, and Vitelli. The following Commissioner was
absent: Commissioner Koll. Also present were Public Works Director Danielson, Planner
Steven Grittman, Administrative Assistant Patrick Hollister and Carla Wirth, Recording
Secretary.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Chair Duggan requested the addition of the following agenda items:
5a. Consider December Meeting Schedule
5b. Commissioner Terms of Office
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Chair Duggan reviewed changes made to the second edition of the meeting minutes as requested
by Commissioner Friel.
Commissioner Lorberbaum asked that the changes made to the previous month's minutes be
itemized in the minutes so there is an accurate historical record.
Chair Duggan concurred and asked that the corrections be delineated in a legal fashion with the
words added to be underlined and the words removed to be strikethrough.
The following changes were made to the October 24, 2000 Planning Commission minutes:
Page 4, 1st paragraph, "Chair Duggan asked if AT &T had considered any other additional site
locations were sought after.
Page 6, 5th paragraph, "Commissioner Vitelli moved to recommend approval of the conditional
use permit and variance to add 30 feet to the existing 95 -foot monopole tower at 1168 Northland
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Drive for AT &T Wireless Services and requestediiv a needs assessment report from AT &T as
this item goes before the Council."
Upon his arrival later in the meeting, Commissioner Friel requested the following correction:
Page 7, 4th paragraph: "Commissioner Friel indicated he felt the screening within the
commercial zoning district might be discriminatory Faiseeffeeizn due to the fact it is not required
within the residential zoning district. He added that he was having difficulty understanding why
the ordinance Genif&i.914 was so focused on residential and commercial TV antennas when the
problem is with amateur radio antennae."
Commissioner Betlej moved to approve the minutes of October 24, 2000 meeting as amended.
Commissioner Lorberbaum seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
CASE NO. #00 -42: DICK BJORKLUND ON BEHALF OF STEVE AND VERNA
NICHOLS
HEIGHT VARIANCE
1858 ORCHARD HILL
Chair Duggan explained this was a public hearing for the purpose of discussion on a height
variance for a new single family home at 1858 Orchard Hill by Dick Bjorldund on behalf of
Steve and Verna Nichols.
Planner Grittman reviewed the Planning Case with the Commission and noted the applicants
have applied for a variance from the height standards to allow the front, right side of the house to
have a lookout lower level, with two windows that are approximately 41/2 feet in height. He
provided a description of the proposed house, which was designed with a multi -level hip roof.
The proposed house height on the front, right side of the house is 21/2 stories or 291/2 feet. The
maximum allowed is 2 stories or 25 feet, whichever is less. The rest of the house is compliant
with the height standard.
Planner Grittman explained how the house height could be redesigned into compliance, however,
noting staff recommends approval of the variance with the condition that evergreen trees be
planned southeast of the house to filter the view of the house from Orchard Hill. He noted that
while the applicant has worked with the existing topography by stepping down the roof line of
the house, the house is still unable to meet the building height limitation because of the slope of
the land. He advised that it may be argued that in this case compliance with the building height
standard would be technically correct, and that it would not affect the impact of the house on the
public or sounding properties.
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Chair Duggan asked if the house is about 41/2 feet higher than permitted by the ordinance.
Planner Grittman stated that is correct and described the topography of the subject lot. He
displayed the front elevation of the proposed house and explained how the building height
measurement is taken.
Commissioner Betlej asked if the ordinance does not consider the average grade of the house
front. Planner Grittman explained if the ordinance is interpreted to be from the lowest to the
highest point, that would change this measurement. He advised that staff relied on the Building
Official's interpretation.
In response to Chair Duggan, Public Works Director Danielson explained that the Code
Enforcement Staff measures the two front corners of the house to determine the average height
of the house front.
Chair Duggan stated his preference to consider the variance rather than require the area to be
filled. He stated he accepts staff's analysis and acknowledgement that it may actually be less
than the requested 41/2 feet depending on the interpretation of the ordinance.
Chair Duggan asked for questions and comments from the audience.
Dick Bjorldund, representing Steve and Verna Nichols, presented a copy of the survey, noting
the unusual changes in grade. He reviewed the building footprint and impacted elevations. Mr.
Bjorklund identified the location of existing pine trees and corner of the house in question. He
stated this is an unusual situation and suggested that changing the grade would result in the house
looking out of place.
Commissioner McManus asked how the average grade is calculated and whether it is actually the
mean grade. She also asked where the trees are proposed to be placed. Planner Grittman used
the survey to point out the planting locations that would filter the view of the home and soften
the height.
Commissioner Betlej noted that two drawings are being presented which depict different
treatments, one identifies a slope and the other a retaining wall. Mr. Bjorklund explained that
one drawing was completed by the designer who did not have the final grade elevations. He
noted the location of the front door and retaining wall that is needed to create the sidewalk area.
Mr. Bjorklund also noted the location of another large tree and stated they are willing to plant
trees as suggested by staff.
Commissioner Betlej read a portion of the Zoning Ordinance related to the calculation of
building height. He stated it appears there is a change in grade of six feet so he would measure
the height using both corners of the house and the average, which results in no need for a
variance.
Chair Duggan clarified that this calculation would result in the need for a 11 /2 foot variance.
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Commissioner Vitelli stated his concurrence with that calculation for the mean elevation and
supported the plan as presented.
Commissioner Lorberbaum noted that Mr. Bjorklund has been a builder in Mendota Heights for
many years and that this house has already been designed and construction was started before it
was realized that the height was a problem. She suggested this is a problem of their making and
stated she was surprised that they learned about this height restriction from staff and decided to
raise the grade on that corner of the house and eliminate the windows so a variance would not be
needed. Construction of the house was started but then the buyer decided to request the variance.
He noted the property is unique in nature.
Commissioner Lorberbaum asked if the variance is being requested due to the uniqueness of the
lot and if they are unable to build a house that would meet the ordinance requirements. Mr.
Bjorklund stated this is a very unique lot with an 18 foot drop in elevation form one corner of the
lot to the other. He stated he wants the house to look right and he does not think the appearance
of the house would be as good with the elevation change needed to eliminate the need for a
variance.
Commissioner Lorberbaum asked if the variance request is being made due to the uniqueness of
the lot. Mr. Bjorklund answered affirmatively.
Commissioner Vitelli commented on the excellent reputation of Mr. Bjorklund in Mendota
Heights due to his high quality work and good working relationship with the City and
community. He stated that if the City insisted the ordinance be met, he is sure Mr. Bjorklund
would raise the elevation. However, he supports consideration of the requested variance.
There being no further questions or comments, Commissioner Betlej moved that the hearing be
closed.
Commissioner Lorberbaum seconded the motion
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
Chair Duggan asked for recommendations from the Commission members.
Commissioner Vitelli moved to recommend approval of Case No. #00 -42 a building height
variance not to exceed 41/2 feet to construct a new home at 1858 Orchard Hill, based on a finding
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That a hardship exists which restricts reasonable use of the property without the variance and
that the unique topography of the site contributes to the height issue and subject to conditions to
ensure consistency including a condition that evergreen trees be planted southeast of the house to
filter the view of the house from Orchard Hill.
Commissioner McManus seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
CAO #00-04: GEORGE AND SUE SPANJERS
SITE PLAN WITHIN THE CRITICAL AREA OVERLAY DISTRICT
1223 KNOLLWOOD LANE
Chair Duggan explained this was a public hearing for the purpose of discussion on the request
for approval of a site plan within the Critical Area Overlay District, which is adjacent to the
Mississippi River, in order to construct a new home and swimming pool at 1223 Knollwood
Lane.
Planner Grittman reviewed the Planning Case with the Commission and noted the applicants
have applied for site plan approval to construct a house that is 11/2 stories in height with a
walkout basement and attached three-car garage. The lot contains steep slopes that exceed 20
percent in some areas. The house has a foundation size of approximately 2,500 square feet and
meets all property setback requirements. Planner Grittman displayed a drawing identifying the
footprint of the proposed home and grading of the site. He stated the property is relatively open
with some trees, sloping to the north and northwest. He stated the average slope of the building
site is 12 percent with an overall acreage of 22 percent. Planner Grittman stated the ordinance
regulates development of 12 percent to 40 percent grades and prohibits development of lots over
40 percent in grade.
Chair Duggan noted the Comprehensive Plan addresses not building on slopes greater than 18
percent and inquired regarding those differing standards.
Public Works Director Danielson stated the Comprehensive Plan has not yet been adopted and
the ordinance, as it stands, addresses 40 percent grades as opposed to 12 percent to 18 percent
grades.
Planner Grittman pointed out the location of a retaining wall, up to eight feet in height, behind
the house and pool area to accommodate a back yard area. He explained the Critical Area
Overlay District restricts the height to five feet and requires construction of native materials. He
recommends the proposed grading be amended to meet those standards.
Commissioner Vitelli asked if two separate five foot retaining walls would comply. Planner
Grittman answered affirmatively.
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Planner Grittman noted the need for a tree preservation plan and specific review of the grading
and drainage by engineering staff to assure it meets the Critical Area Overlay District and other
requirements of the City. Planner Grittman indicated that the application appears to be generally
consistent with the Critical Area Overlay District Ordinance; however, staff believes some
additional information and review is necessary. Therefore, he recommends that the site plan be
approved with three conditions as indicated in his staff report.
Commissioner Vitelli noted the only issues raised are for City Engineer approval of the erosion
and drainage control. Planner Grittman stated that is correct and would be done as a staff
function.
Chair Duggan asked if a DNR review is needed of the drainage. Public Works Director
Danielson stated a DNR review is not needed since a variance is not involved.
Chair Duggan asked if the area of impervious surface needs to be considered with the drainage
calculations. Public Works Director Danielson explained the City Engineer looks at every
building permit submitted to the City to address grading and drainage issues.
Commissioner Vitelli stated he would like to ask the applicant if two five -foot retaining walls
could be used and if he has any issue with the trees.
Chair Duggan asked for questions and comments from the audience.
George Spanjers, applicant, stated the retaining wall is on the west corner of the lot. He stated if
the site grading cannot be lowered to four feet in height, he would consider two retaining walls
since he has two young children and is concerned for their safety. He advised of their intension
to create a boulder retaining wall.
Chair Duggan stated there is a small fenced area in the back of the property with some
vegetation. Mr. Spanjers explained that the homeowner to the west has been using that area.
Mr. Spanjers stated the trees in the area of the building pad are poplar and cannot be saved.
However, the larger pine trees in the area of the garage will be relocated to the east side of the
property to provide privacy around the pool area.
Commissioner McManus asked if this is his proposal as opposed to staff recommendation. Mr.
Spanjers stated that is his intention.
There being no further questions or comments, Commissioner Vitelli moved that the hearing be
closed.
Commissioner Lorberbaum seconded the motion.
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AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
Chair Duggan asked for recommendations from the Commission members. He stated his
concern about the location of other buildings down the hill from this building site and requested
the use of silt fence to protect those properties. Mr. Spanjers expressed no objection to that
request.
Commissioner Lorberbaum moved to recommend approval of the site plan within the Critical
Area Overlay District to construct a new home and swimming pool at 1223 Knollwood Lane that
is 11/2 stories in height with a walkout basement and attached three-car garage based on a find
that the proposal meets the requirements and intent of the Critical Area Overlay District
Ordinance and subject to the following conditions as recommended by staff to ensure
consistency:
1. The retaining wall may not exceed a height of four feet, and it must be made of native
stone.
2. The pine trees to be removed and preserved must be indicated on the plan, and the trees
that will be preserved must be surrounded with protective fencing to avoid soil
compaction by construction equipment or materials.
3. Grading, drainage, and erosion control issue are subject to City Engineer review and
approval.
4. Appropriate use of silt fence.
Commissioner Vitelli seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
FENCE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT
Chair Duggan explained this item is for the purpose of discussion on the Fence Ordinance
Amendment and asked the Commissioners if they have further questions.
Commissioner Vitelli expressed concern should this type of fence be constructed on every corner
lot.
Commissioner Betlej stated he shares that concern and hoped the ordinance forwarded to the
Planning Commission would have incorporated the recommendations they have made when
issuing variances historically. He noted one of those recommendations was to require a fair
amount of landscaping between the fence and the public street.
Commissioner Vitelli reviewed two fence requests that were previously considered by the
Planning Commission. He felt those two requests were reasonable, however, he remains
concerned should there be a proliferation of this type of fence.
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Chair Duggan asked if the term "thoroughfare roads and county roads" could be used instead of
"major roads." Other than in a hazardous area, he also supported that a minimum of 30%
opacity be required. However, if there is a hazard, the CUP process allows the consideration of a
solid fence.
Planner Grittman noted that the discussion during several fence variance requests addressed
being adjacent to major, arterial, or collector status roads as identified in the Comprehensive
Plan. He stated a more streamline ordinance had been recommended with the suggestion that by
making it a CUP, the City would have some discretion on the design, addition of landscaping,
etc.
Commissioner Vitelli recommended this ordinance amendment be "shelved" and not considered
at this time. He noted two fence requests had been considered previously and were approved
with requirements.
Commissioner Lorberbaum asked if this was drafted due to the two past cases or at the council's
request.
Administrative Assistant Hollister stated this ordinance revision effort derived from one of the
fence requests when the Planning Commission recommendation included examination by the
Council of, perhaps, revising the ordinance.
Commissioner Lorberbaum stated since the Planning Commission suggested this amendment,
they could also set it aside for now. Commissioner Betlej agreed.
Commissioner McManus stated concern with removing the Planning Commission's
responsibility in being able to consider the aspects of the request and making that decision based
on those specifics. She stated she may want to reconsider this amendment depending on the
number of request before the Planning Commission.
Chair Duggan noted it is the consensus of the Planning Commission to shelve consideration of a
Fence Ordinance amendment and requested that if it is considered in the future, the previously
mentioned wording revisions be included.
Commissioner Friel arrived at 8:30 p.m.
Commissioner Vitelli moved to take no action on the Fence Ordinance Amendment at this time.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
Commissioner Friel asked if the issue is not liking what was seen or wanting more.
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Commissioner Lorberbaum stated the motion is to not take action at this time and to shelve the
issue.
Commissioner Vitelli summarized the discussion held related to this issue and concern expressed
to not "leave the barn door open."
Commissioner Vitelli moved to withdraw the motion on the floor and to not change the
ordinance language at this time.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Chair Duggan noted the fee for a fence permit is $10 but the fee for a CUP is $350. Should this
ordinance amendment be considered in the future, he suggested that consideration be given to
lowering a fence CUP fee.
ORDINANCE AMENDMENT — PRIVATE ACCESSORY ANTENNAS
Chair Duggan explained this is for the purpose of discussion on the Private Accessory Antenna
Ordinance Amendment. He stated in the past three discussions, issues were raised including
safety and height of the dish. He asked if the Commissioners feel these issues have been
adequately addressed. No concerns were expressed.
Chair Duggan asked if concerns remain relative to size or diameter of the dish being proposed.
Commissioner Friel stated he remains concerned about the size.
Chair Duggan stated a CUP permit application process is available to request a larger size dish.
Planner Grittman stated that is correct.
Chair Duggan noted the exclusion of television antenna and size limitation and asked if there are
concerns related to those issues. No concerns were expressed.
Commissioner McManus inquired what the screening would be like. Planner Grittman stated
screening of the entire antenna apparatus would be required, whether roof mounted parapet walls
or ground fence. He stated this is determined from the adjacent property or right-of-way.
Chair Duggan stated future technology and addressing remedials were discussed and asked if
removal should be required at some point.
Commissioner Friel noted some structures still have old television antennas and suggested if it
becomes an issue, it could be discussed at that time. He asked about a stack or chase on a roof
that is eight feet in height due to requirements which results in obscuring the ability for antenna
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Reception. Chair Duggan stated that the antenna would have to be relocated on the roof or on
the chase. Or, they could demonstrate a hardship.
Commissioner Friel stated his perception this ordinance will create more problems than it is
designed to solve. He stated the focus of the problem was an amateur radio antenna but that is
no longer the focus. He stated the focus has become television antenna throughout the
community.
Chair Duggan asked if a larger size dish type roof antenna should be addressed. Commissioner
Friel stated the issue before the Planning Commission was amateur radio antennas, not television
antennas.
Commissioner Vitelli stated he believes the proposed ordinance language also addressed amateur
radio antennas.
Planner Grittman stated he did not try to prepare a new ordinance since this is the third
discussion held and the focus of the ordinance remains an issue. He requested direction so
language can be drafted more in the line with the Planning Commission's desires. Planner
Gri ttinan stated amateur radio antennas originally spurred this discussion and the city Attorney's
view is that some of the issues are related.
Commissioner Friel stated the focus is what the Planning Commission has experienced rather
than how this is dealt with elsewhere. Planner Grittman stated he first started with several
antenna ordinances drafted from other communities. Then he tried to import the Mendota
Heights issue into that framework.
Commissioner Betlej stated his support for the proposed language since it provides some
parameters the Planning Commission can use when considering requests for amateur antennas.
Commissioner Friel stated his concern that some will put ordinary television antennas on their
homes that become involved with this ordinance and expenses to obtain a CUP, which is not the
focus of the Planning Commission's concerns.
Chair Duggan suggested the most recent language be referred to the City Council for their
deliberation and decision or possibly referral back to the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Vitelli stated he would support a recommendation for adoption and ask if the City
Attorney is supportive of the ordinance as drafted. Planner Grittman answered affilmatively.
Chair Duggan asked for questions and comments from the audience.
There being no questions or comments, Commissioner Vitelli moved that the hearing be closed.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
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AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Vitelli moved to recommend approval of the proposed Zoning Ordinance
amendment as mitten, based on a find that the regulation of accessory antennas is necessary to
ensure access to communications for private citizens, but to avoid unnecessary proliferation of
antennas in residential areas.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 1 (Friel)
CONSIDER DECEMBER MEETING SCHEDULE
Chair Duggan noted the meeting schedule for December 26, 2000 and the holiday schedule.
Administrative Assistant Hollister advised that at this time no items have been submitted for
consideration at the December meeting. However, if an urgent issue were to arise, staff will
contact Chair Duggan for direction.
Chair Duggan requested Planning Commission and cable television staff notification after the
application deadline as to whether a meeting will or will not need to be scheduled in December.
COMMISSIONER TERMS OF OFFICE
Chair Duggan congratulated Councilmember-elect Vitelli who will no longer serve on the
Planning Commission after December. He stated he looks forward to having a friendly Planning
Commission voice on the city Council.
Chair Duggan stated his and Commissioner Lorberbaum's positions expire at the end of the year.
Public Works Director Danielson asked the Commissioners to submit a let of interest in
reappointment, should that be the case.
Chair Duggan stated his enjoyment in serving on the Planning Commission and intention to
submit a letter of request for reappointment to the Planning Commission.
VERBAL REVIEW
Chair Duggan requested a verbal review of the matters, which were submitted to the City
Council for their consideration. Public Works Director Danielson informed the Commission of
Council action taken on recent planning cases.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the Planning Commission, Commissioner Betlej moved to
adjourn its meeting at 9:00 p.m.
Commissioner Lorberbaum seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Respectfully submitted,
Carla Wirth
Recording Secretary
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
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