1989-03-28 Planning Comm MinutesCORAECTED*.MInUTt8
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning
Commission was held on Tuesday, March 28, 1989, in the City
Hall Council Chambers, 1101 Victoria Curve. Chairman Morson
called the meeting to order at 7:35pm. The following members
were present: Morson, Anderson, Koll, Duggan, and Dwyer.
Commissioner Krebsbach had informed the commission that she
would be out of town on the date of the meeting date. Also
present were Planner Howard Dahlgren, Public Works Director
Jim Danielson, Administrative Assistant Kevin Batchelder, and
Mayor Charles Merte,nsotto.
APPROVAL OF commissioner Ko ' 11 moved approval of
MINUTES the February 28, 1989 minutes.
Commissioner Dwyer seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
CASE NO. 89-09 The Fryes and Katz's were not in
FRYE/KATZ VARIANCE attendance at the meeting. Public
Works Director Danielson explained that
both parties were informed of the
meeting time and date. Mr. Dahlgren
explained that the Commission could go
ahead with the case.
Commissioner Koll said she had visited
the property that the parties involved
want subdivided; she agrees with the
proposal since it is unbuildable
property.
Commissioner Anderson stated that it is
an appropriate request.
Chairman Morson explained that this
is a subdivision, and a survey and
legal description are required, ..but
were not supplied. Public Works
Director Danielson said that the survey
and legal description have been
supplied, but unfortunately were not
included in the meeting information for
this evening's meeting.
Commissioner Koll said that $8000 has
been spent on past surveying of
the property.
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Commissioner Anderson moved to
recommend waiving the public hearing
on this matter; moved to recommend to
City Council the subdivision as
proposed. Commissioner Koll seconded
the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
VERBAL REVIEW Public Works Director Jim Danielson
gave a verbal review of cases that had
been before the City Council.
Chairman Morson and the Planning
Commission commended Commissioner
Dorothy McMonigal for her years of
service to the City as a Planning
Commission member, and requested the
City Council to do. likewise.
CASE NO. 89 -03 Chairman Morson called the meeting
DUFFY, REZONING to order for the purpose of a
VARIANCE, CUP FOR continued public hearing on Mr.
PUD, ZONING ORDINANCE John Duffy's application for the
AMENDMENT rezoning, variance, Conditional Use
Permit for a Planned Unit Development,
preliminary plat and zoning ordinance
amendment for the property at the
Southeast quadrant of Lexington Avenue
and Trunk Highway 110.
Mr. Duffy presented the commission
with a design based on meetings with
the neighborbood, taking into account
the criteria that was presented to him
by the neighborhood.
Mr. Duffy stated that the general
consensus of the neighborhood meeting
was that no one was opposed to
developing the property. He felt that
the community needs commercial
development for generation of taxes.
The residents preferred the B -2 zoning
uses to those within the B -3.
Residents were concerned about
effective screening of residential
lots. Mr. Duffy recommended an 8'
high berm to be built and landscaped as
a residential buffer. The slope kept
to 3:1 for a pleasing appearance and
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easy maintenance.
A convenience store with gas is
desirable to the residents, according
to Mr. Duffy, but no more than eight
servicing stations. A bike path is
needed, according to residents; Mr.
Duffy proposed a bike path running down
the right -of -way from Tom Thumb Street
to Hwy. 110 with a „signalized stop
light with push button activator by the
sidewalk.
Mr. Duffy stated that trash removal
would be handled by a screened dumpster
enclosure built into the bermed slope.
The neighborhood would like to see
Phil's garage incorporated into the
plan; Mr. Duffy -'s proposal is for the
service garage to be built as a
separate wing with over -head doors
facing away from the Lexington
entrance, and all parking in the rear.
Aesthetics was a major concern with
residents; Mr. Duffy proposes following
a basic Early American style, but using
brick on all sides. Entrance nodes
would be used as a means to break up
the linear appearance of the front
wall.
Mr. Duffy stated that Tax Increment
Financing is a good vehicle and wanted
to consider this as part of a
development proposal. He stated where
the road would be installed with his
proposed B -2 zoned shopping center.
There would be no variances needed; he
has met all the required setbacks. He
stated that parking and the traffic
flow would be maximized with two small
loops on each end of the center. Mr.
Duffy stated that there are tax issues
with a tax exempt statue and zero lot
lines.
Mr. Duffy presented the topographic
plan which included a berm proposal to
screen the residential lots. He stated
that Dundee Nursery has been hired to
prepare the landscaping plan he
presented. Mr. Duffy explained that
the sign band would be a white back lit
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strip to show up with words and
individual letters.
Commissioner Dwyer asked Mr. Duffy what
the distance is between Mary Adele and
the back of the proposed building. Mr.
Duffy responded by saying approximately
200 feet; lots are 1301 deep; there is
151 of boulevard between the lots and
Mary Adele pavement.
Commissioner Dwyer asked if the back of
the building was brick? Mr Duffy said
yes, there is brick on all 4 sides, a
canopy in front with a stucco band in
back.
Commissioner Anderson said that back in
February, Plan A did not involve
residential lot development; the
residential lots would be rezoned from
the existing wall north. He then asked
what happens with the undevelopable
land? Mr. Duffy said the city ends up
owning the strip. Commissioner
Anderson asked about maintenance on
zero lot lines. Mr. Duffy explained
that there would be a general
maintenance agreement for the center.
Commissioner Anderson questioned Mr.
Duffy on the desirability of new
residential lots. He's not sure that
new residents will be thrilled with
this; what is the impact on the
community? Mr. Duffy said B-2 zoning
is wanted. The neighborhood wants
residential lots berming to appease the
neighborhood, both visually and for
sound. It was explained that Tom
Curley owns this property; a realtor
would look at viability of these lots.
Commissioner Anderson commented on the
viability of the shopping center. We
need a decent sized anchor. Without
it, we may have problems. Mr. Duffy
said that they have anchors and tenant
lease mix. They have 3 open spaces
with letters of intent for occupancy.
Commissioner Anderson asked Mr. Duffy
is he could still lease everything if
he were proposing Plan A. Mr. Duffy
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stated the letters were signed when
Plan A was proposed and that either
development was attracting tenants.
Commissioner Anderson was concerned
with the exterior appearance of the
structure; it should have a modern look
to it - use same brick as City Hall to
tie the corners together.
Commissioner Anderson asked Mr. Duffy
which proposed center did he feel was
the best site: Mr. Duffy stated that
Plan A was the best use of the land and
was based on marketing analyses.
Commissioner Duggan complimented the
developer on the improved plans. He
had major concerns over the traffic; it
will mean a lot of trips for that
corner - he has a concern for the
neighbors. Mr. Duffy would like to see
signalized intersection with button
crossing for pedestrians and bikers.
However, the County doesn't seem
interested to complete modification.
Commissioner Duggan displayed much
concern over the traffic situation.
City Planner Howard Dahlgren concurred
that the design will work sufficiently
for the amount of trips each day. He
added that traffic on the north side to
serve shopping area could be better if
more parking were added in front. The
service road is workable, but Mr.
Dahlgren was concerned with lack of
stacking ability at the proposed bank
drive -up - he feels the bank proposal
is not adequate at this time. He
concluded by saying that the overall
traffic scheme is not seen as a
problem. When the Frontage Road/
Lexington intersection traffic warrants
a signal, a light will be installed
there.
Commissioner Duggan commented on the
auto garage; he felt it would not be
harmonious to future residents. He
also commented on the garage pit;
recommended that garbage be contained
in the buildings. Mr. Duffy agreed
that inside storage of garbage would be
ideal, however, dumpsters are normally
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provided behind the building.
Commissioner Duggan also made a comment
that junky cars are unsightly. He
asked who would be responsible for
maintaining berm and landscaping. Mr.
Duffy said they are responsible and it
would be included in the development
agreement. Commissioner Duggan feels
there is a need for more substantial
landscaping, and**Mr. Duffy will come
forward with size*of trees and adequate
landscaping.'. .
Commissioner Dwyer asked if the crab
apple trees could be saved. Mr. Duffy
didn't know if the trees could be saved
or not.
Commissioner Duggan asked how many
residential lots are being planned for
development. Mr. Duffy said 9 lots
were platted. Commissioner Duggan
asked if he would consider eliminating
some lots to increase overall lot
sizes. Mr. Duffy said that is
Curley's decision.
Commissioner Duggan asked about
pollution concerns with gas station and
Croix Oil. Mr. Duffy said that Croix
Oil has served SOS for the past 11
years, and would like to sell the gas
to the new station. Commissioner
Duggan thanked Mr. Duffy for the plans.
Commissioner Koll asked about the curve
of the street and size of the front
parking lot. Mr. Duffy said that 201
stalls, 241 drive aisles, and 201
stalls is code; however, parking lot
could be made larger without variances.
The road curvature was no problem for
the amount of traffic in question.
Commissioner Koll questioned the auto
repair in the back of the building; her
concern is the buffer area (jumper
cars, etc). She said the desirability
of lots is still satisfactory to her.
A colonial type of construction was her
choice, but whatever type is decided
upon, the materials used must be of
substance and quality. She asked about
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the existing evergreens on the proposed
building area - can they be saved or
moved? Mr. Duffy said he would like to
see as many as possible stay; possibly
half of the existing trees.
City Planner Howard Dahlgren elaborated
on his report, explaining parking
concerns, trees and screening, traffic
and parking. He said that the key is
channeling traffic at entrance to
center; this is not a good situation
now. Mr. Dahlgren concluded by saying
that Plan A is the best alternative if
it is adjusted somewhat. It solves the
problem of the screen: leave it and
enhance it.
Commissioner Anderson feels that Plan A
has a safer and better traffic pattern.
He said this was a valuable piece of
commercial property at the western
gateway to the City; he asked why
minimize the buffer and miniscule the
size and potential of the center.
Mayor Mertensotto gave an oral
presentation expressing his desire to
maintain the existing wall and pine
tree screen, explaining the TIF policy
and the City's desire to see a very
high quality project if public money is
involved.
Chairman Morson opened the meeting to
the floor. Mr. Harry Wise, 3077 Timmy
Street, presented comments from the
neighborhood meeting which had been
held earlier. There was great
reluctance among residents to lose the
screen. They were in agreement with B-
2 zoning, and the 3 non-conforming
businesses should be kept. A "sore -
point" issue is the drive-in bank; some
feel this is high speed risk traffic.
The residents show heavy resistance to
the drive-in bank and to fast food
restaurants.
Mr. Wise then presented his personal
opinion. He is upset about selling the
lots with berm and trees; he feels that
the rear parking is useless during rush
hour. The garage, the biggest source
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of noise, is as close to neighbors as
you can get it. He feels that the
traffic flow is a problem, the
screening is not adequate. He feels it
is unethical to put in neighbors as a
screen. The flow into the filling
station is inadequate, and the
aesthetics of a convenience store is a
concern to him.
Mr. Duffy took the floor with
clarifications. He said that everyone
stayed at the meeting to come to a
concensus. Zoning and uses allowed had
been agreed upon. Plan A building was
501 from wall and 751 away from
property line.
Mrs. Judy Werthauser thanked Mayor
Mertensotto for his direction. She
went on to say that she, and 200 other
people, were against Plan A. The B-2
zoning was a concern; she wants a CUP
and not a change of.zoning. She feels
that creativity should be a major
factor in screening, and would like to
see screening options from the
developer. Mrs. Werthauser is
unhappy with the amount of pumps
proposed at the convenience store;
she feels that the traffic study should
have supported the neighborhood better
and is still uncomfortable with it.
Mr. John Nides, 2094 Patricia Street,
explained that he was concerned over
the fact that the project being
presented was what was agreed upon; now
he is hearing something totally
different. He is very concerned over
the size of the project.
Judy and Al Werthauser said they do not
want rezoning or variance on residence
lots. They feel they are forced to
make a decision whether to have a big
mall or a small mall with houses. They
also would prefer keeping the existing
screen in place.
I
Chairman Morson said that he feels that
the people have spoken in favor of Plan
A, especially with the screen. He
added that the Planning commission does
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not have a satisfactory recommendation
to make to the City Council, and a
decision must be made.
Commissioner Anderson said that a
decent opportunity to present a viable
project hasn't been given to Mr. Duffy.
He feels that at this time, there is no
workable detailed plan. We need to be
more specific with plans for Mr. Duffy
and the neighborhood.
Tim Curley, son of the owner of the
property, stated that they have been
trying to develop the property for four
years. He want on to summarize the
activity on this project since August,
1988 when they came to the City for
direction.
Chairman Morson stated that the
Commission has not been influenced by
the Mayor's comments. Many aspects of
the presented plan are not acceptable.
He does not want to see trees removed.
He felt that the first developer scared
people with the huge Super America
first planned. Chairman Morson added
that a decision should not be made
under a stressed condition; he
recommends taking another look at the
situation.
Mary Sweeney, 2047 Theresa Street,
stated that her front door faces the
trees. She wants to see the barrier
rather than lots; she feels that new
homes there would not be an addition to
the neighborhood. She also wants to
keep the trees.
Harry Wise feels that points in Plan C
are valuable and if incorporated in
Plan A, it could be much better.
Mr. Duffy addressed the commission by
saying that he has been presenting
plans to meet the needs and wants of
the neighborhood and the City. He
feels the time has come for some
positive action; he wants to get the
right solution - would like to know
what it is that is really wanted.
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Chairman Morson agreed with Mr. Duffy
that a decision must be made.
Joe Schmitz, owner of the SOS, said
that one year ago, they were told to
make no improvements with their
property. Now improvements are
necessary and insurance will be costly
if improvements are not made. He
doesn't understand the direction being
given.
Mayor Mertensotto feels that Plan A is
a viable project economically for the
developer; Plan A should be developed
with the concerns addressed.
Commissioner Anderson said the
neighborhood has limited influence on
the problem. Legal issues are
involved, along with health, welfare
and safety issues. As far as the
traffic issue goes, an increase in
volume is not the only issue. He added
that Mr. Duffy's problem is that he is
too nice and has listened to all of us;
we've jerked him around from month to
month. Mayor Mertensotto has given us
a dose of political reality tonight;
now the time has come for clear
direction.
A neighbor stated that the developer
and the community have been misled.
Mr. Duffy has presented a compromise
that was worked out with the
neighborhood.
Harry Wise added that they have
presented their concerns.
Commissioner Dwyer asked if the
Werthausers and Mr. Wise's comments
were a consensus of the neighborhood.
The neighbor said they're trying to
come to a compromise
Chairman Morson stated that he sees
merits in both plans, but cannot accept
either as a whole. We must review and
reassess.
Pat White, 2098 Theresa, expressed
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concern over the fact that a landowner
must pay taxes on residential lots, but
then nothing can be done with them.
Commissioner Koll said that the
process has gone on too long. She is
hearing a dichotomy.
Commissioner Anderson explained that
the Planning Commission is guided by
principles and laws that compel action.
A motion was made by Commissioner Dwyer
to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the
motion. City Planner Howard Dahlgren
explained that it can be moved to close
the public hearing tonight and continue
the hearing next month, or close
everything tonight. Commissioner
Duggan stated that he wants
clarification of the process of
closing or continuing the hearing. He
withdrew seconding of the motion.
Commissioner Koll then seconded the
motion.
AYES: 3
NAYS: 2 Anderson, Duggan
Commissioner Dwyer moved that Planning
Commission recommends that the City
Council approve Plan C with a fine
tuning of the dumpster enclosure and
berm area, a resolution of Ethan Allen
and drive -in bank situation, and the
inclusion of a berm with 30 foot spruce
trees. Commissioner Koll seconded,
with emphasis on the berm, its
landscaping, its screening and
buffering ability.
Commissioner Duggan felt the term
"finetuning" is inadequate. This must
be specified now. All of Mr. Duffy's
plans have been rejected; the
neighborhood will never be satisfied.
Chairman Morson said we are only here
to approve the plans, but Commissioner
Duggan felt that we are also here to
give Mr. Duffy some direction.
Commissioner Anderson feels that Plan C
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is unsound and does not make the best
or highest use of this precious
commercial property.
AYES: 2
NAYS: 3 Anderson, Duggan, Morson
Motion fails.
Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend
to the City Council that applicants
proposal be denied. The city should
not pursue a plan that nobody is happy
with; Mr. Duffy should be given a
chance to begin again.
Commissioner Anderson stated that this
motion has merit; it seems to be the
only thing that everyone can agree on.
Commissioner Duggan withdrew the motion
because of lack of second.
commissioner Anderson.moved to
recommend that the City Council approve
the preliminary plat for a modified
Plan A, subject to the following
conditions:
a. That the center be moved west and
north away from existing wall to
allow for a landscaped area.
b. That the free standing service
station be limited, or scaled back,
to six pumps.
C. That the zoning be retained as B-2
with amendments to the B-2 zoning to
allow for the following uses:
1. motor fuel/convenience store
2. drive-in back
3. minor auto repair
4. furniture store
5. locksmith
6. interior decorator
7. picture framing store
8. health studio
9. radio repair
c. Recommend denial of any fast food
drive-up use.
d. That the center incorporate the
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more modern exterior facade proposal
of a brick surface with masonry band
comparable to City Hall.
e. Recommend that the R-1 zoned area be
rezoned to B-2 zoning, and that the
B-2 zoning line be drawn 201 north
of existing wall so the required 301
setback keeps building to the north.
f. Recommend approval of 4 acre
variance to allow a 6 acre PUD.
g. Recommend denial of the requested
signage variances and that signage
be in accordance with city
ordinances.
h. Recommend approval of a 301 variance
to the 601 setback for a service
station.
i. Recommend that final approval of the
preliminary plat be contingent on
the submittal of.a survey that
accurately reflects the details of
the placement of the north service
road.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the
motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 1 Koll Motion carried.
ADJOURN Commissioner Anderson moved to adjourn
the meeting. Commissioner Dwyer
seconded. The meeting was adjourned at
11:05pm.