1999-01-19 Council minutesPage No. 1
January 19, 1999
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, January 19, 1999
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, Minnesota was held at 7:30 o'clock p.m. at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights,
Minnesota.
Mayor Mertensotto called the meeting to order at 7:30 o'clock P.M. The following members were
present: Mayor Mertensotto, Councilmembers Dwyer, Huber, Krebsbach and Schneeman. Mayor
Mertensotto turned the chair over to Councilmember Huber.
AGENDA ADOPTION Councilmember Dwyer moved adoption of the revised agenda for
the meeting.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of the minutes of the
regular meeting held on January 5, 1999.
Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CONSENT CALENDAR Councilmember Schneeman moved approval of the consent calendar
for the meeting, revised to remove item f, computer acquisition
memo, from the agenda, along with authorization for execution of
any necessary documents contained therein.
a. Acknowledgement of the minutes of the December 9, 1998 Parks
and Recreation Commission meeting.
b. Acknowledgment of the Fire Department monthly report for
December, 1998.
c. Acknowledgment of the Treasurer's monthly report for
December, 1998.
d. Acknowledgment of a memo regarding a correction in the
administration personal services budget detail sheet.
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e. Approval to pay a claim of $475.00 to Ms. Marion Ryan for
reimbursement for sewer back -up expenses at 684 No. Freeway
Road.
f. Approval of Authorization for the purchase of two replacement
1999 Ford Crown Victoria police cars from Superior Ford for a
total cost of $41,216.00.
g. Approval of the list of contractor licenses dated January 19,
1999 and attached hereto.
h. Approval of the List of Claims dated January 19, 1999 and
totaling $928,000.48.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
ENTRANCE SIGN Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
Danielson regarding final design review for the city entrance sign
proposed to be constructed on Dodd Road at Mendota Heights Road.
Mr. Bob Peota and Mr. Cliff Swenson, from Signia Sign, were
present to review the proposed design.
Mr. Swenson informed Council that the last time he came before
Council he reviewed a design for a sign labeled option 1 which had a
limestone base with a wall in the back and a wall in the front and
landscaping. At that time Council directed design changes to save
some money but yet keep the design similar, matching the City
office sign. He then reviewed the proposed design changes, which
included removing the back wall and keeping a short retaining wall
in the front. The materials, including limestone veneered and
stacked limestone retaining wail, are the same. He reviewed the
planting scheme and the grading that will be required to create the
bench that the sign base will sit on. He informed Council that the
refinements have been made to the sign, and he is seeking approval
of the design.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Huber, Mr. Swenson
stated that the primary change from the last artist's rendering is
removal of the back wall. He showed Council and the audience a
sample of the rock faced stone that is proposed to be used in the
retaining wall and veneer. The stone is quarried in Minnesota, near
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Mankato. The wall cap will be more finished to provide a contrast
with the stone.
Mayor Mertensotto asked the length of the 3 %Z foot tall retaining
wall and whether it will stay in place over time. He pointed out that
there will only be a warranty of one year after the project is done.
Mr. Swenson responded that the wall is approximately 20 to 22 feet
long. He informed Council that from an engineering standpoint it is
not retaining a large load and will work fine. He stated that the
product has been used successfully in other projects, in walls up to
five feet tall, with no problems. The details that will be prepared
will be similar to the detail he has used in the other projects.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Krebsbach regarding
landscaping, he stated that there will be conifers in the back, crab
trees on the side and different plantings in front and in back of the
sign to provide color throughout the year. Three burr oaks are also
proposed to be added as a backdrop to the crabs.
Councilmember Schneeman asked how durable the sign cabinet is.
Mr. Peota responded that the cabinet is fabricated aluminum and will
not rust over time. The paint finish is metal based and will weather
like a car's finish. There is a ten year warranty on the finish before it
will start to fade. The inside of the cabinet would have fluorescent
illumination to light up the letters white at night with an opaque
background that will be dark at night.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that his notes were that the total cost
of the sign project would be $50,000 and that there was a suggestion
that if the city acts as general contractor there could be a 10% or
15% cost savings. He asked Mr. Peota to break down the costs.
Mr. Peota reviewed a detailed list of estimated (budgeted) costs for
each of the components of the proposed project. The total projected
cost is $47,250, plus a contingency.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that he has a concern about the city
spending $50,.000 on a sign. He pointed out that he has expressed
his concern in prior meetings about the policy decision and while it
is a lovely design, he does not know that the city needs to spend
$50,000 for a sign. He commented that even though TIF funding is
available, there are many institutions in the city, such as the school
district, that are having a tough time and he would have difficulty
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spending this kind of money welcoming people to the city. He
stated that he could perhaps support something less than half the
projected cost, but could not support spending so much money.
Councilmember Schneeman asked if Council envisions putting
similar signs in the city.
Councilmember Dwyer responded that Council has discussed putting
a sign at the Mendota Bridge mirroring the Dodd/Mendota Heights
Road sign.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that there would probably be another two
signs in the future.
Councilmember Schneeman asked if the cost would be the same for
future signs since the design is done.
Mr. Peota responded that the costs would depend on the site - how
much grading there would be and whether retaining walls would be
needed. He explained that once the contract documents are done,
there would only be a small fee to his firm for adjusting the sign to
the other signs.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that part of the cost is really to
create the setting for the sign. She felt Council could get cost for the
actual sign down to half and that the minimum project that could be
done would be the retaining wall, the sign and the base and some
junipers around it. She pointed out that the plantings that are
proposed are common to Mendota Heights.
Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that Council has required that all
buildings in the industrial area be finished on all sides and has spent
a lot of time on landscaping. He stated that the city could probably
install a wooden sign for $5,000 but if Council wishes to perpetuate
the quality and image the city is trying to present, it will have to
spend the money that is projected. He felt that some of the estimates
are high and pointed out that there would be a savings if the city
general contracts the project.
Mr. Peota stated that his impression is that Council likes the sign.
He stated that he is seeking approval for the final design and that the
next step will be to get bid documents done, get some bids and know
the hard numbers. He pointed out that the numbers that have been
discussed are budget numbers and they may come down when the
bids come in. Getting the bids won't cost anything and Council will
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be able to look at what costs are associated with each of the
components and can hone in on some areas where costs can be
reduced.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that it would be helpful to know
what part of the cost is for the retaining wall and the landscaping and
what part is for the sign. $50,000 for a sign alone would be more
than what the city would want, but the landscaping, etc., would
finish off the corner and Council's decision could be that finishing
the corner would be worth the additional $25,000 expense. If
Council ultimately decides not to finish the site, there would still be
a nice sign and a retaining wall.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that while he was campaigning no one
expressed need for a sign — they talked about helping out the school
district, more parks, more trails, ballfield lights, street lights, etc.
He wondered if there is support in the community for spending
$50,000 or even $25,000 for a sign.
Councilmember Huber stated that Council has been working on the
design for a number of months and there is concern about the costs.
He further stated that if it is Council's desire to go with a high
quality sign, the one proposed is the one Council would go with.
The question that remains is what level of investment Council
wishes to make. He pointed out that the memo from the Public
Works Director discusses preparing the bid documents and
recommends approving another $750 for Sigma's preparation of the
bid documents. He asked for Council's feeling about spending
another $750 to prepare final bid documents without committing to
going forward with the project.
Councilmember Krebsbach felt that if there isn't support for that
scale of project Council may not want to spend another $750.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that she likes the design and loves
the sign even though it is expensive. She asked if the city can do any
of the construction work.
Public Works Danielson responded that city staff does not have the
expertise to do the work.
Councilmember Dwyer pointed out that having Guy Kullander do
the contracting would take him off his regular projects, so there is
some question about how much money that would save.
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Councilmember Huber stated there is the concept that this will not be
the only sign. If Council is considering additional signs, the
multiples go up fast.
Councilmember Dwyer agreed, pointing out that instead of $50,000
the city would be spending $100,000 or $150,000
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council does not have to commit to
additional signs but has made the decision to go with an architect
rather than going with a wood sign. He pointed out that as one
travels around the state and country, when landscaping goes with a
nice sign, it shows the level of care that goes into the city. He spoke
about the expenses projected for extending electrical and the stone
retaining wall. He stated that timbers could be used instead of stone
for the retaining wall to reduce costs. He felt that the cost will be
less than projected. If nothing is done it will remain a vacant two
acre site. He pointed out that the city requires extensive landscaping
in industrial projects and would not be paying homage to what it has
been preaching to others for so long.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that her feeling is that if Council
authorizes the additional $750, it would be committing tonight to
supporting the concept and design and would pare down the costs
after they are known. She pointed out that there is significant TIF
available and other cities are investing more in boulevards and
landscaping than Mendota Heights is. Mendota Heights is
transitioning from rustic to more of a finished look, and that end of
the city connects the site to the schools which have signage similar
to the industrial area. Even though it is expensive, half of the cost is
for the sign and the other half is for finishing the site. She supported
both getting bids and doing the sign.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that he would support $750 more for
additional work by Signia that would tell Council whether this is
closer to a $35,000 project.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that she thinks it is necessary to
spend another $750 to find out because Council has already made an
investment in this project.
Councilmember Huber stated that he has reservations, even if
Council gets the cost down to $35,000 because there are still other
signs to do. He stated that he will go along with additional $750 on
the Signia contract but that he is not sure he could commit to
$35,000 for the sign project if it can be reduced to that cost.
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Councilmember Dwyer moved to authorize an amendment to the
contract with Signia to allow an additional $750 for preparation of
contract documents for bidding, to authorize Guy Kullander to act as
general contractor and to authorize solicitation of bids with the
understanding that ultimate approval of the project is reserved to a
later date.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
FRIENDLY HILLS MIDDLE Council acknowledged a memo from Administrative Assistant
SCHOOL PLAYGROUND Hollister regarding a request for funding for playground equipment
EQUIPMENT for the Friendly Hills Middle School. Ms. Linda Nides, and Ms.
Beth Sevenich, representing the Friendly Hills Middle School PTA,
and Ms. Liz Wynne, Principal of the middle school, were present for
the discussion.
Ms. Nides informed Council that she and Ms. Sevenich are
spearheading a fundraising drive to build a middle school
playground. She explained that $24,000 has been raised in four
months with the intent to build a playground that is geared towards
fifth through eighth graders. Total funding needed is $40,000 and
$24,000 has been raised . She stated that the Parks and Recreation
Commission has recommended that the city contribute $5,000 from a
special fund, which matches the $5,000 commitment from the school
district. The project is proposed in three phases. The parks
commission requested that the $5,000 contribution, if it is approved,
go to phase one, which is traditional playground equipment costing
$20,000. Of the funding already raised, $15,000 is committed to
Phase 1 and if the Council approves the Parks and Recreation
Commission commitment, Phase 1 will be fully funded and will be
installed in the coming spring. Phase 2 is seating and accessories —
park benches, tables with seating, trash receptacles, and bike racks,
etc. Phase 3 is Project Adventure, a team building rope challenge
course. She stated that the intent is that the playground be open to
the public. The city has set a precedent by supporting playground
equipment at Mendota School.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Schneeman, Ms.
Nides stated that the $24,000 raised to date does not include the
contribution recommended by the Parks Commission. She stated
that the Parks and Recreation Commission has given a commitment
to $5,000 and the PTA would also like to request an additional
$5,000 from the City Council budget.
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Councilmember Huber stated the Parks and Recreation Commission
can only make recommendations to Council and does not have the
authority to make expenditures. He further stated that when there are
commission recommendations regarding park equipment and park
land, Council asks the commission to recommend a funding source.
The commission is recommending that funding for this proposal be
from the Special Park Fund.
Responding to a question from Mayor Mertensotto, Ms. Nides
informed Council that Project Adventure would be used for school
and community education programs and teachers would have to go
through a training course and some of the rope courses would have
to be taken down if trained supervisors were not going to be present.
One of the Park Commission contingencies was that the contribution
go just to Phase 1.
Principal Wynne stated that when the group looked at putting
together a playground, the group looked at the ages of the children in
the school and the idea was to structure it so that the playground
would not be competing with the neighborhood park equipment.
Phase 1 is more of a fitness area as opposed to the traditional
playground versus swings and saws, etc. Phase 2 is a social area,
including picnic tables, where students can sit and socialize. Phase 3
is Project Adventure and staff members are already trained to
supervise its use. The school is looking at using it in its physical
education program. She stated that it is also excellent for children
who are at risk and also for adults. In terms of concerns about
students being on it unsupervised, there are several schools and
camps that have the equipment. The apparatus is designed so parts
can be removed, and signs will be posted as well. Historically,
liability is very low.
Mayor Mertensotto asked if community education will be charging
students for Project Adventure.
Ms. Wynne stated that although it is not something the group has
yet discussed, since there are school people trained and qualified to
supervise Project Adventure, she would like to provide the
opportunity for use of the equipment through community education
and also for organizations and small groups.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if the Project Adventure apparatus
is used anywhere other than in a camp environment.
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Ms. Wynne responded that the apparatus is set up and used
successfully at the Eden Valley High School. She informed Council
that the apparatus will be located up on the hill in the woods to the
north of the bus area.
Councilmember Schneeman asked if the apparatus would be fenced
in. She stated that the apparatus would have to be supervised if
neighborhood children would be using them, especially in the
summertime.
Ms. Wynne responded that a lot of the equipment is designed with
detachable pieces. None of the area will not be fenced but there will
be signage. At this point the school does not see a need to fence the
area.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that she is familiar with the truss
ball component and kids could fall off it.
Ms. Wynne responded that the school would have to carefully
monitor the area initially to see if there are any problems.
Councilmember Dwyer asked what phase the second $5,000 would
be dedicated if the city contributes $5,000 from the general fund.
Ms. Nides responded that $3,000 is still needed for Phase 2 and it
might also be decided that pieces should be added to the traditional
playground.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Schneeman, Ms.
Nides stated that the fundraisers went to the Mendota Elementary
PTA and they have given a donation but they have not gone to the
other elementary schools as yet. The City of Eagan has not been
approached as yet.
Mayor Mertensotto noted that Council has been informed that
$15,000 in donations have been committed to Phase 1 and $9,000
has been committed to Phase 3 but nothing has been committed to
Phase 2.
Ms. Nides responded that the $5,000 from the school district has
been dedicated to Phase 3 because more funds were committed by
the business community to Phase I. The school district put no
restrictions on its donation.
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Ms Wynne stated that the experience has been that, in terms of some
of the funds that have been collected, people feel more comfortable
with donating to Phases 1 and 2 so it was the decision to apply the
school district contribution to Phase 3.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that his concern is that the PTA has a
program going and there is a legitimate basis for it because the city
has lots of equipment in its parks for the elementary aged children
but does not have equipment in the parks for older children. He
expressed concern about the letter from the PTA to the school
district attorney regarding public access.. He stated that if the city
makes a contribution, Council's intent is that the city residents will
have access. He asked if the residents who participate in community
education have to pay a fee also. He noted that Ms. Wynne has said
that use of Phase 3 will require supervision by trained individuals
and a certain amount of the equipment can be removed. He pointed
out that since the school district will own the equipment, it will bear
any liability. He stated that if the city is going to invest money, he
does not want the investment to be based on a statement that this is
planned and that is planned. He asked how much money is needed
to complete the total project.
Ms. Nides responded that with the $5,000 contribution from the city,
$12,000 is still needed to complete the project.
Ms. Wynne stated that if there were additional funds, there would be
more money to apply towards Phase 3. No more money can be
added to Phase 1 because there is not sufficient space for additional
equipment. Responding to a question from Mayor Mertensotto, she
stated that if there is a commitment for the $16,000 that is still
needed, all three phases will be completed.
Mayor Mertensotto asked how much of the remaining un fielded
$16,000 the PTA thinks it can raise.
Ms. Nides responded that she believes the larger donations have
been received. The PTA applied for a grant from Dakota County but
it fell through. She felt that the PTA can possibly fundraise another
$2,000 this year and will continue the drive next year.
Mayor Mertensotto asked if the PTA is asking for $5,000 from the
Special Park Fund and another $10,000 from the city.
Ms. Nides responded that $24,000 has been collected, so $16,000
more is needed.
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Mayor Mertensotto asked, if the city contributes an additional
$10,000 in addition to $5,000 from the Special Park Fund, if the
school board will commit themselves to say that it will take no
action to prevent community use of the property.
Ms. Wynne responded that she would take that matter to the school
board.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that there is justification for the
commitment, because the city spent about $850,000 for the Henry
Sibley High School athletic complex and the response he got one
time about having additional cooperation in the use of that facility
was that the city signed a bad contract. He stated that if Council
decides to donate money to improving the Friendly Hills Middle
School playground facilities, they have to be open for public use
outside of school hours without any prohibition on public use. He
recommended contributing the $5,000 and another $10,000 but the
$10,000 would be conditioned upon the school board making that
commitment.
Councilmember Huber stated that his concern about guaranteeing
access is that the city would be committing money to the portion of
the project that requires supervision. He did not know whether the
current school board can commit future staffing.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that the city could commit the funds
to Phases 1 and 2 with the condition that they be open to the public
when they are not being used for school activities.
Ms. Nides stated that the school district has guaranteed taking on the
liability and future maintenance.
Councilmember Huber stated that he does not know that the city
needs a guarantee to access to the phases 1 and 2 facilities because
they will be open to the people passing by.
Ms. Nides stated that she understands the Mayor's concerns about
past commitments and what the PTA wants is a playground for the
students and something that is open to the community. She stated
that a contingency could be placed on the contribution and she can
take that matter to the school board.
Councilmember Dwyer suggested approving the $5,000 from the
Special Park Fund to complete Phase 1 as recommended and donate
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$3,000 from the General Fund to be dedicated to completion of
Phase 2 and let Project Adventure stand on its on feet.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that the $5,000 from the school
district is only for Phase 3.
Ms. Nides stated that the board did not dedicate its contribution to
any phase Responding to a question from Councilmember
Schneeman about the Heritage Middle School, she stated that this is
a Friendly Hills PTA sponsored fund raiser in Mendota Heights for
the Friendly Hills Middle School and Mendota Heights residents.
Ms. Wynne stated that the district will treat the facility as it does the
ball fields, tennis courts, etc. which are open to the public when not
being used by the schools.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that Phase 3 does depend on
staffing and asked if it is anticipated that there will always be
available.
Ms. Wynne stated that she feels it will because the phy ed teachers
are trained to supervise Project Adventure and there will always be
phy ed at the school Through the school, programs can be offered
for family type events and also through community education where
the school's instructors will instruct.
Ms. Nides stated that the school could work with the city as it does
now on the golf program, and other recreation programs.
Ms. Wynne stated that if the school is were fortunate enough to have
this opportunity she will seek out opportunities to maximize use of
the apparatus. She stated that the school would be very receptive to
organizations with the only concern that whoever is supervising is
qualified to do it.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that if the city were to contribute $15,000
Council would want the assurance that all three phases would be
completed and would also need assurance that the playground would
be open to the community.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that should another organization
within the city develop trained staffing, they would then be able to
1 use the Phase 3 equipment. That is the only way there would be
access to Phase 3.
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Responding to a question about charges for use of Project
Adventure, Ms. Nides stated that if, for example, another middle
school or other organization wanted to use it, there would be some
charge for the staffing but not for the use of the apparatus. The
charge would be to compensate the instructor for coming in after
hours.
Councilmember Huber restated the various proposals.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he would like to see the project
completed because the city does not have a park that has the
proposed types of facilities.
There was discussion over potential liability, and it was noted that
Council can require that it be a named insured on the school's
insurance policy.
Councilmember Huber stated that he has a problem with Phase 3
because he does not know how access can be guaranteed and there is
no guarantee that it will always be staffed. He had no question about
funding the completion of phases one and two.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that the school's stated goals to help
children in crises through the Phase 3 portion are good, that is not a
goal that city's would ordinarily foster.
Councilmember Krebsbach suggested donating $5,000 each to Phase
1 and 2.
Mayor Mertensotto agreed, stating that funds already committed
could be transferred to Phase 3.
Councilmember Dwyer moved that the City Council accept the
recommendation of the Parks and Recreation Commission and
dedicate $5,000 to Phase 1 and that council donate $3,000 from the
general fund contingency to the completion of Phase 2 with the
understanding that those phases be accessible to the general public
outside of regular school hours.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Mayor Mertensotto expressed concern unless the school board
assents to accessibility to the general public, access to the public is
not guaranteed.
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Responding to a question about whether there is anything in the
design that would restrict someone from using Phase 1 and 2
equipment, Ms. Wynne stated that the Phase 1 and 2 will not be
fenced in. They will be placed in the area adjacent to the basketball
courts in a wide open area and will have access from the bike trail
and other accesses. The only time there would be students in the
summer would be if summer school is held, and access to the
playgrounds would be available. She stated that the project would
be for the kids, and for the community. She could think of no way it
would not be accessible to the general public.
Councilmember Huber stated that he shares the concerns Mayor
Mertensotto has about what happened at Sibley but this (Phases 1
and 2) is not the kind of equipment where people will schedule use
of it. It is a very unstructured use type of playground.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that keeping the statement in the
motion about access is important, so that any letter to the school
board would contain the text of the motion and the funds would be
contingent upon access to the public.
Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that if someone gets hurt in the area,
the school district could say that it cannot be used by the public and
call the police department to keep people out. He stated that the city
could donate the $5,000 from the Special Park Fund for Phase 1 and
there should be a resolution from the school board that if the city
contributes the extra money the board will commit to not imposing
any rule or regulation that would prohibit public access and use of
the facilities outside of school hours.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would rather designate the
$8,000 and send a copy of the motion and release of the funds would
be based on the school district responding that they can accept the
conditions within the motion.
Councilmember Dwyer restated the motion as follows: that the city
donate $8,000 towards Phase 1 and Phase 2 with the understanding
that it is tendered to the school district with the condition that the
school board, by motion at a school board meeting, agrees that
phases 1 and 2 will be open and accessible and with the
understanding that the donation will not be made until the city
receives the school board resolution.
�. Ayes:5
Nays: 0
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RMF CONTRACT Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
Danielson regarding a proposed contract for services for preparation
of a concept plan for redevelopment of the Freeway Road area.
Council also acknowledged a proposal for Master Plan Services from
Mr. Ross Fefercorn, from RMF Enterprises. Mr. Fefercorn was
present for the discussion.
Mr. Fefercorn referred to his letter to the city dated November 25,
1998 which summarizes what he proposes to do with the site. He
briefly reviewed the credentials of the group he will be working
with, which include Nelson Tremain Partnership, A Studio and RMF
Entities. He explained that Nelson Tremain and A Studio will help
him make a recommendation on what should be done with the site.
The proposal for services includes an outline with three major areas:
collection and gathering of information about the city and the site
(Phase I); taking that information and developing two conceptual
master plan alternates for presentation to the City Council and city
staff (Phase II); and, taking to a greater level of definition one of
those two plans. He stated that this could be a $30 to $35 million
development for the city, so the city should easily be able to
recapture TIF from tax revenues. He explained that he would put
together a bound report putting together everything his group has
done in the process, and the city would have that documentation as
the project moves forward to reality.
Councilmember Huber asked if Mr. Fefercorn has any idea of
approximately how long it will take to complete the three phases.
Mr. Fefercorn responded that he would hope it would be a four to six
month process and that it will be no greater than six months.
Councilmember Huber stated that if Mr. Fefercorn would like to get
through all thee phases by the end of summer, he will need some
commitment from Council to keep that schedule.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked where there are examples of the
work that Mr. Fefercorn has led that Council could see.
Mr. Fefercorn responded that he included a resume of his work in the
original proposal. He informed Council that over the past several
years he has done over a dozen housing developments and probably
close to 1,000 units of market rate housing. Basically over the years
he has built separate housing developments and separate retail
developments and the city's project envisions wedding those uses.
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Councilmember Krebsbach asked is there a development Mr.
Fefercorn knows of that might be what he is envisioning.
Mr. Fefercorn responded that most urban cities have something like
what he is referring to, such as the Uptown area of Minneapolis
which has a mix of housing, retail and services, which has all of the
components. Also there is a site in Kansas City. In Minnetonka,
CSM Corporation and Rottlund Homes are working on a project, but
that is somewhat more commercial.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that when Council first met with Mr.
Fefercorn the discussion was to complete the three phases in four to
six months because Council knew an extension on the
Comprehensive Plan amendment deadline would be needed and
Council wants the Freeway Road area addressed in the amendment.
He stated that when the name Nelson Tremain first came up the city
got public comments that Council was looking at affordable housing
for the project site and that is not true. There will be an opportunity
for community input in Phase II. Council is hiring Mr. Fefercorn to
develop an overall development plan for what would be best for the
site. He asked what whether reimbursable expenses could be limited
to 10% of the contract.
Mr. Fefercorn responded that he will let Council know about
reimbursable expenses as they are incurred and he could set a limit
of ten. percent. Reimbursables would be printing, reproduction costs
etc.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that the proposed service contract fee
is $26,000 and he does not know if that is reasonable or not but what
Mr. Fefercorn is planning to undertake seems like a lot of work for
the price.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that this is probably the most
exciting thing that has happened in Mendota Heights for a long time
People have been waiting for something to be done, and when she
was campaigning the number one question that was asked of her was
about downtown Mendota Heights.
Mr. Fefercorn responded that it needs to be an interesting place for
people to gather.
City Attorney Hart stated that as a contract interpretation matter he
sees that there is a not to exceed figure and a termination clause on
30 day notice and billing on a monthly basis, but it must be pro rated
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based on work completed on a certain percentage of the total project.
If there is a huge amount of work done in the first phase, the city
would not want to be billed on that basis but rather on the percentage
of the total project that has been completed. Unless there is a
revision, the majority of the work could be done in the first two
months and the city could have paid for it and have nothing on
paper. He recommended that there be a statement in the contract that
the city will be billed on a monthly basis based on the percentage of
the project that has been completed or some language that would
make payment on an equitable pro ration basis not to exceed time
and materials.
Mr. Fefercom responded that some of the work they will be doing
will be behind the scene and to the extent that there is a thirty day
notice he will have a point of stopping the work being done and
billing for the work done an a progressive basis, so revised language
should be acceptable.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the contract also has to be amended to
include the cap on reimbursable expenses.
Mr. Fefercorn informed Council that Phase I will go by before he has
any meetings with Council but his group will be meeting with city
staff.
Mayor Mertensotto asked that the revised contract include language
relating to what the anticipated percentage of the total cost will be
for each of the phases.
Councilmember Schneeman moved to authorize the Mayor to
execute the Proposal for Master Plan Services with RMF
Enterprises, amended to include a 10% cap on reimbursable
expenses and inclusion of language recommended by the City
Attorney with respect to equitable pro ration of billing.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CDBG REALLOCATION Council acknowledged a memo from Administrator Batchelder
regarding reallocation of funds from the 1996 Senior Housing site
acquisition along with letters from Mr. Lee Smith, Dakota County
HRA, and Mary's Shelter. It was noted that $8,343.62 in 1996
CDBG funding that had been allocated to senior housing site
acquisition was not needed for the project and can be reallocated to
another use.
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Mayor Mertensotto stated that Mary's Shelter has been before
Council for CDBG funding but they were not specific as to their
administrative costs and their budget program was open ended. He
felt that the $8,300 should be added to the city's commitment to
facilitate low income housing repairs including hook -ups of utilities
on a loan basis.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that Council has the choices of rolling
the $8,300 into the city's housing rehabilitation loan program which
has $45,000 in funding from the 1999 CDBG grant or dedicating that
$8,300 to Mary's Shelter in response to its request for funding
assistance. He recommended dedicating the money to Mary's
Shelter, which he feels is a very worthy cause.
Councilmember Huber pointed out that the third option is to dedicate
the funding to assist four home owners in the Furlong area with the
cost of extending water service to their homes.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that she would like to have
someone from Mary's Shelter come before Council. She stated that
over the past several weeks in the news, there have been many cases
of families who needed shelter and ended up dying because they did
not have it. Mendota Heights is just like every other community and
has residents who need the transitional housing that Mary's Shelter
provides. She pointed out that other Dakota County cities are
helping Mary's Shelter and felt that Mendota Heights should also
help them.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Schneeman about
whether there are other transitional housing providers in Dakota
County for women and children, Police Chief Johnson stated that the
Robert B. Lewis House also provides shelter for battered women and
children.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that Council should see a budget
showing where the money would go before making a decision to
donate funds to them. He noted that many organizations have come
before Council for funding and use of HRA funding must be a
priority situation and the city must know what the money would go
for.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that the HRA CDBG funds are related
to housing needs and the residents at Mary's Shelter come from
Mendota Heights as well as from other Dakota County cities.
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Responding to a question from Councilmember Huber,
Administrator Batchelder stated that there is no current information
on where the city stands on use of the CDBG housing rehabilitation
loan money. He informed Council that the 1998 allocation became
available in July and in December there were a couple of
applications pending. The 1999 allocation of $45,000 was dedicated
into low income housing rehabilitation and from time to time money
revolves back into the program from prior loans.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would like to get a better
handle on available funding. She would like to get information on
the larger picture on shelters in Dakota County. Also she stated that
she would like to know if the city's HRA funding has gone to people
whose needs were hidden and the city was able to help them through
these funds, which would be a good use for the money.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that the prior request from Mary's
Shelter was for capital improvements for a building but Council has
had no subsequent contact from them. He pointed out that the city
has been building a reserve fund in its housing rehabilitation loan
program because as loans are paid back or the property is sold, the
money goes back into the rehab fund.
Councilmember Schneeman asked if the city knows that people in
the Furlong area will qualify for funding assistance for water
extension.
Councilmember Huber stated that more information is needed.
Information is needed on: how much the Furlong water extensions
might cost; an update on home loan rehabilitation requests; and, staff
could get information on what the current status is with Mary's
Shelter and perhaps someone from Dakota County could speak about
shelter services in the county.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Huber,
Administrator Batchelder responded that the $8300 is money left
over from the senior housing project and until Council reallocates
the money he assumes the county will hold it for us
Councilmember Huber stated that when staff gets to the point where
it can make a presentation on the water extensions in Furlong, that
would be a trigger to the City Administrator that Council would like
to see more information on shelter services either specifically for
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Mary's Shelter or all shelter services in Dakota County and a
decision can be made at that time on where to spend the money.
BOURN PROPERTY Council acknowledged a memo from Treasurer Shaughnessy
regarding acquisition of the Bourn property at 1181 Bourn Lane,
along with a copy of a life estate agreement that was executed with
the prior owner of the property adjacent to the Fire Station.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council needs more demographics,
such as the age of the property owner. He also asked what would
happen if the city had a development proposal for the area while the
life estate is in effect — could there be a clause that the agreement
would terminate in six months if there is a development proposal.
Treasurer Shaughnessy responded that he just provided a copy of the
agreement with the owner of the property adjacent to the fire hall as
a sample to be used in this case. In this instance, he did not feel that
the life estate would run as long for various reasons. He further
stated that he thinks it is less likely that the city will acquire one of
the remaining Bourn Drive properties. In order to redevelop, the
city must get an agreement with Resurrection so that there would be
a large enough parcel to develop.
City Attorney Hart stated that a buy -out provision on the life estate
would be advisable, and it would be advisable to establish the value
of an appropriate buy -out amount up front through a written
understanding.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that there should be some nominal
payment to terminate the agreement after six months if there is a
valid redevelopment proposal.
City Attorney Hart and Treasurer Shaughnessy were directed to
revise the proposed agreement life estate agreement based on the
adjustments as discussed this evening.
COUNCIL COMMENTS Mayor Mertensotto stated that he received a call from Mr. Seymour
at 1080 Twin Circle who stated that every year he complains that he
has his driveway plowed and sometime during the day the city plows
the cul de sac and fills up the end of his driveway.
Public Works Director Danielson responded that cul de sacs are a
real problem especially if there are a lot of driveways and there is no
place to put the snow. The main plow comes through and then the
pick -up comes through later. He stated that he will look into the
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matter with the Public Works Supervisor to see if they can come up
with a solution.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Huber regarding the
status of the ski trail, Assistant Hollister stated that he believes that
because there was no snow soon enough for the high school ski
team, they are so far into their season now that they have abandoned
the concept of using Par 3. Also the snowmobile they had wished to
purchase does not work and will not be purchased.
Mayor Mertensotto directed Assistant Hollister to give Council a
memo on the status of the ski trail and snowmobile purchase issue
and a recommendation that Council rescind the funds that were
allocated from the General Fund for the purchase of the snowmobile.
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before Council,
Councilmember Schneeman moved that the meeting be adjourned to
the Comprehensive Plan workshop that was scheduled for this
evening, with subsequent adjournment to 7:00 p.m. on Tuesday,
February 2 for closed session discussion on litigation.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 9:25 p.m.
K thleen M. Swanson
City Clerk
ATTEST:
Charles E. Mertensotto
Mayor