1992-11-17 Council minutesPage No. 3447
November 17, 1992
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, November 17, 1992
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the
City Council, City
of Mendota Heights, was held at 7:30 o'clock P.M.
at City Hall, 1101
Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights, Minnesota.
Mayor Mertensotto called the meeting to order at 7:30 o'clock P.M.
The following members were present: Mayor Mertensotto, Councilmembers
Blesener, Cummins,
Koch and Smith.
AGENDA ADOPTION
Councilmember Blesener moved adoption of the
revised agenda for the meeting.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Councilmember Smith moved approval of the
minutes of the November 4, 1992 Election
Canvassing Board meeting.
Councilmember Blesener seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CONSENT CALENDAR
Councilmember Blesener moved approval of the
consent calendar for the meeting along with
authorization for execution of any necessary
documents contained therein.
a. Acknowledgement of the Treasurer's monthly
report for October.
b. Acknowledgment of receipt of the minutes
of the October 7th and October 22nd NDC -4
meetings.
c. Adoption of Resolution No. 92 -77,
"RESOLUTION ACCEPTING WORK AND APPROVING
FINAL PAYMENT FOR NORTHLAND DRIVE RAILROAD
CROSSING AND TERMINATION OF ESCROW
AGREEMENT."
d. Adoption of Resolution No. 92 -78,
"RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO ENTER
INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH MN /DOT FOR ROAD
LIFE COMPENSATION FOR MENDOTA HEIGHTS
ROAD."
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e. Adoption of Resolution No. 92 -79, "A
RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING RULES AND RENTAL
FEES FOR USE OF CITY PARKS AND PROPERTY."
f. Acknowledgment of the minutes of the
November 10th Parks and Recreation
Commission meeting.
g. Approval of the list of contractor
licenses dated November 17, 1992 and
attached hereto.
k. Approval of the list of claims dated
November 17, 1992 and totalling
$621,818.61.
1. Approval of the permanent appointment of
Gary Pike as Public Works Maintenance
Worker and his progression to the level of
Maintenance II.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
ASSOCIATED BUREAUS Council acknowledged a memo from Treasurer
Shaughnessy and a proposed developer's
agreement for the use of Tax Increment
Financing for the Associated Bureaus project.
City Attorney Hart stated that he believes the
agreement to be fairly close to a final draft.
He informed Council that he received a
surprising call recently from the financing
representative for ABI reiterating their
desire for a land write -down in the financing
package, which is not Council's preferred
package. Council's stated preference was that
there be no land write -down he had suggested
to Mr. Casserly, ABI's financing
representative, that he give the city an
opinion that the expenses proposed are
eligible for TIF. He stated that Mr. Casserly
will only provide an opinion if it includes a
land write -down and says that basically the
city will be funding the costs of the schedule
provided by the developer and the mechanism
for doing it is a land write -down. Mr. Hart
further stated that Mr. Casserly has been told
that this is not the way the city wants to go
and that the city wants to be kept out of the
chain of title. He pointed out that there may
also be other reasons why this is not the way
Council wishes to go. He stated that he
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believes the costs which were itemized fall
within the general parameters of the basis on
which the economic development district was
established but he thinks it is appropriate
and reasonable to ask for an opinion from
ABI's legal representative that the costs are
eligible.
Councilmember Blesener asked what risk the
developer would have if they do not have a
land write-down clause in the agreement.
Attorney Hart responded that the city
indemnifies in the agreement that if parts of
the schedule were ever to be considered
inappropriate for use of TIF the city would
get its money back.
Mayor Mertensotto asked whether a bond was
sold for the original TIF. Treasurer
Shaughnessy responded that only $1 million was
bonded for the initial project, and the final
payment on the bond is due in 1993. Funding
for the ABI project would come entirely from
taxes generated on the project.
Mayor Mertensotto suggested that the agreement
be laid over to the next meeting and that
Attorney Hart point out to Mr. Casserly that
bond proceeds are not being used to finance
the project.
Councilmember Cummins asked if the real hang-
up is that Mr. Casserly won't give the city an
agreement letter or if he wants the
indemnification clause removed.
Attorney Hart responded that Mr. Casserly does
not want the clause removed but he does not
want to give an opinion letter without the
land write-down. He felt that it is certainly
reasonable for the city to require an opinion.
Councilmember Smith asked if the city is at
risk if it does not receive an opinion. Mr.
Hart responded that there is always some risk
in transactions of this type and the city
would have a good argument that all of the
costs in the proposal qualify for TIF. There
is, however, is certainly a possibility that
someone involved in the government could
challenge it in future years. He stated that
although this would be highly unusual, he
would rather have the comfort of knowing that
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the developer has looked at it at the outset
as well. He further stated that United
Properties' legal representative agrees with
the city's approach.
It was the consensus that action on the matter
be tabled to December 1st and that City
Attorney Hart be directed to confer with Mr.
Casserly.
AIR NOISE UPDATE Council acknowledged receipt of a community
air noise update from Administrator Lawell,
specifically regarding the MAC P&E Committee
recommendation for a 60 day fanned corridor
procedure test, a hearing on the MAC Noise
Ordinance to be held on November 30th, and a
complaint from Mr. Joe Meagher regarding
Runway 4-22 usage. Council also acknowledged
a copy of a memo from Nigel Finney P&E Deputy
Director regarding corridor issues, a copy of
a letter from Metropolitan Council Chair Mary
Anderson to the MAC Commissioners regarding
the P&E Committee recommendation, copy of a
letter from Administrator Lawell to MAC Chair
Hugh Schilling, excerpts from material
presented at the November 12th MAC meeting
relative to the MAC Air Noise Budget, and a
copy of a letter from MAC Aviation Noise
Programs Manager to Administrator Lawell
regarding runway 4 operations.
Mayor Mertensotto informed Council that the
MAC has rejected the recommendation of the P&E
Committee, and adopted its staff
recommendation, which the city objects to,
even though the P&E Committee had unanimously
recommended implementation of the 60 day test.
He stated that the city has even received a
surprising letter from the Metropolitan
Council that the city did not comply with land
use requirements, which is incorrect.
Councilmember Smith stated that the city seems
to have lost the battle but that she thinks
there are more avenues from which to approach
the matter. She suggested that Council
request that an air noise abatement committee
be formed, consisting of a staff member, a
Council member and citizen members to form
strategies and help alleviate the problem.
Mayor Mertensotto agreed, stating that if the
city is ever to succeed, it must have a
citizens group. He supported the appointment
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of a steering committee before the end of the
year.
PARK DEDICATION FEES Council acknowledged a memo from
Administrative Assistant Batchelder regarding
a proposed increase in the park contribution
formula.
Councilmember Blesener suggested that the
formula for large lots is disproportionate.
Administrator Lawell responded that the Park
and Recreation Commission generally felt that
large property owners could afford a larger
fee but did not suggest one. The issue is one
of all the property that has developed
previously under the existing set of rules of
either land or $750 per lot. The question is
one of whether those who develop properties
now should be penalized.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated
that the park dedication survey does not
provide information on whether developers have
the choice of cash or land dedication.
Typically, if there is a large subdivision in
the city, a land dedication is required. For
small developments, the city likely could not
get enough land to be useful. He stated that
the question is what is appropriate as a cash
dedication, and that his memo suggests
establishing a dedication based on the use of
the parks by the new lots although there
certainly is an equity issue.
Councilmember Smith did not think a good
reason to charge more is that those who own
large properties can afford it more. She also
felt that the multi - family contribution is too
low because such developments bring more
people and more demand for parks - multi-
family is a much more intensive use than
single family. She asked whether other
communities relate park dedications to land
acreage or the number of units proposed.
Assistant Batchelder responded that Fridley
has a square foot rate but that is for a
commercial cash dedication and calculates to
about $1,500 per acre.
With respect to multi - family, Councilmember
Smith asked if there is a way to tie a land
dedication to a per unit basis, for instance
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12 units per acre pays 12 times the dedication
fee or land. She asked if multi-family can be
put on a formula basis to make it equitable
with single family.
Councilmember Blesener stated that Council is
basically going to pass a new resolution to
establish park dedication for all properties
in the city. She objected to larger lots
paying more, pointing out that the large lot
developments already preserve open space. She
suggested tying the number of units to the
amount of land to be dedicated or the site of
the plat. She felt that it is important that
the city always protect its option to require
land or cash and should have a greater role in
determining which form the contribution should
be.
Assistant Batchelder responded that the park
dedication ordinance language clearly states
that the city has the option of choosing cash
or land.
Councilmember Cummins stated that he does not
share the concern over large lot contributions
but could see graduating the fee upwards for
large lots. In those cases, the city has the
option of taking a very big piece of land
which would have much greater value than the
proposed cash dedication.
Councilmember Smith responded that she does
not believe there will be enough lots platted
in excess of 1.5 acres in the future to make
any difference.
Councilmember Koch stated that the whole
process bothers her and that she feels the
park contribution requirement is a burden to
land owners. She further stated that while
she understands that the city must look out
for its interests, but the recommended
contribution rates are proposed to change
dramatically from the existing rates and she
sees no rationale for the increase.
Councilmember Smith stated that the 10% land
dedication has little relationship to the cash
dedication amounts. She asked whether
increasing the charges is a priority of the
Park Commission.
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Assistant Batchelder responded that the
Commission was looking at a specific
subdivision proposal recently and when they
made their recommendation for increasing the
fee they felt there should be a larger fee for
larger lots.
It was the consensus to table the matter and
direct staff to prepare additional research.
IVY FALLS CREEK Mayor Mertensotto opened the meeting for the
purpose of an informal hearing on proposed Ivy
Falls Creek improvements. Council
acknowledged a report from Public Works
Director Danielson; a letter from Mr. Chris
Doyle, 642 Maple Park Drive, expressing
concern over the easement over his property
and the potential for personal injury; a
letter from the City's insurance risk manager,
Berkley Risk Services, Inc., in response to
Mr. Doyle's letter; a copy of the letter sent
to affected property owners informing them of
this evening's informal hearing and proposed
project details; and an excerpt from the "Ivy
Falls Creek - Conceptual Design Report,"
prepared by BARR Engineering for the Lower
Mississippi River Watershed Management
Organization. Council also acknowledged
letters from the Lorentzen family trust
supporting the project, from Ellis Abrahamson
objecting to the proposed improvement and
assessments and suggesting another
stabilization plan as proposed in a letter
from a consultant he had asked to look at the
problem, and a letter from Mr. & Mrs. Eric
Miller objecting to the proposed assessment
plan.
Hydrologic engineering experts Jim Langseth,
from BARR Engineering, representing the Lower
Mississippi River WMO, and Glen Sanders, from
Wenck Engineering, were present to introduce
the project.
Mayor Mertensotto informed the audience that
no decisions would be made on the project this
evening. He turned the meeting over to Public
Works Director Danielson.
Mr. Danielson gave the audience a history of
the project and showed several slides of the
creek and its tributaries to identify the
major problems for the audience.
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November 17, 1992
Mr. Langseth reviewed several overhead
graphics. He explained that the creekbed is
searching for a flatter slope and will not
quit eroding until it finds a flatter, more
stable slope. The creek bottom will continue
to drop, and as it drops it also meanders,
cutting into either bank. In order to avoid
the consequences, the creekbed must be
stabilized. He reviewed the many solutions
which have been considered, and stated that
considering the initial cost, cost over time,
safety, etc., the best and most cost effective
solution has been determined to be to provide
additional ponding capacity in the Ivy Falls
Park pond and to install small drop structures
in the creek bed to stabilize it. He informed
the audience that the drop structures, which
will look like small water falls, will blend
in with the environment, reduce erosion and
sedimentation, and will be aesthetically
pleasing. He stated that the solution, which
will raise the creek bed, stabilize it and
restore the valley walls, is a proven solution
and a cost conscious one.
Mr. Sanders stated that his firm was contacted
by the city to review the BARR Engineering
design and criteria to see if it is a viable
solution for this project. He informed the
audience that after reviewing all of the
alternatives for the project, he agrees with
what is proposed by BARR as being the best and
most cost effective solution.
Mayor Mertensotto asked for comments from the
audience.
Mr. Ellis Abrahamson stated that the expert he
had contacted, Dr. Paul Earle, suggested using
sandbags and restricting yard sprinklers. He
asked whether the city's consultants consider
the soil in the area stable.
Mr. Langseth responded that any soil at too
steep a slope is unstable, so it is vital that
the slopes not be excessively steep - if
ground water is discharging out of a slope,
the slope is inherently unstable.
Mr. Jerome Crary informed Council that he
lives at the curve in Laura Court. He stated
that something has been left off of the
experts' charts. When the gabion project was
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done several years ago, the commitment from
the former City Engineer was that if the
project did not solve the problem the city
would build a second structure behind his
house because the intent was to try to break
up the flow of the creak. The water goes down
from Dodd through the gabion structures and
begins to boil and cause much erosion. He
stated that he is disappointed to hear that
Laura Court is not being addressed and nothing
is to be done with the culvert and that he
continues to lose property and his retaining
wall. Also, he felt that it would be
beneficial to take a video of the creek during
a storm to see the creek in action. He stated
that when there is a heavy rain the run off
from above keeps picking up velocity.
Public Works Director Danielson responded that
the intent is to improve the outfall behind
the Crary home - the outlets are where
problems typically occur.
Mr. Jack Brassard stated that he has recently
walked down the creek and that there are about
25 trees in the creek now, 1 1/2 to 2 feet in
diameter, which are probably 75 years old and
can never be replaced. He further stated that
there are trees on the bank which could never
be replaced if they are lost. He informed
Council that the Miller property is terrible
and another major storm could jeopardize the
foundation of their house. He felt that
something must be done now and it should be
nothing less than the best project to take
care of the problems.
Mr. Alan Taylor, 1297 Sylvandale, asked what
will be done where the culvert runs past his
house. Public Works Director Danielson stated
that the final design has not been done yet
but that he envisions putting the water into a
pipe and piping it down to the main stream
channel from the road.
Mr. Taylor responded that if this were to be
the solution he would lose the creek which
enhances his property.
Ms. Joan O'Brien expressed her concern that
the entire watershed area is not paying for
the improvement. Public Works Director
Danielson reviewed a map depicting the
drainage district which contributes to the
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flow in the creek. He explained that about
one -half of the water comes from West St.
Paul, which will contribute to the project
costs based on the Watershed Management
Organization formula. He reviewed the funding
formula, which consists of assessing 15% of
the project costs and financing the remaining
85% through tax increment financing for pond
construction costs, extension of the levy
which was initiated for the first Ivy Falls
project, a contribution of $55,000 from the
City of West St. Paul, and the initiation of a
storm water utility.
Ms. O'Brien asked if some of the water from
new developments can be re- directed so that it
does not flow into the creek. Mr. Danielson
responded that there is no opportunity
available to re- direct the flow. Mr. Langseth
stated that it may be possible that some of
the water coming from West St. Paul (68 acres)
will be diverted in the future as part of a
global watershed within the WMO, but that to
take water from low areas to high areas
(streets) would be extremely costly if at all
possible.
Ms. Marilyn Miller commended Council and staff
for an excellent presentation and asked for an
explanation of the area /frontage assessment
and why it is proposed to assess 15% when
Council had discussed percentages varying
between 10% and 30% at a recent workshop she
attended.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that there was
discussion over assessments of 10 %/20 %/30% at
the workshop and that Council had to look at
the overall financing package. Any reduction
of the proposed assessment percentage would
result in an increase in the proposed
quarterly charge for the storm water utility.
Councilmember Blesener stated that the 10%
figure was never endorsed but was simply put
forth as an alternative.
Mrs. Miller stated that from a home - owner's
viewpoint she thinks it should be seriously
considered and that she has a problem with the
funding concept. She also asked what happened
to the possibility of assessing the
homeowners's association.
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November 17, 1992
Mayor Mertensotto responded that the
association does not have any money and if it
were assessed it is likely the property would
go tax forfeit. He stated that he does not
think there was ever any thought given to
assessing the association.
Administrator Lawell stated that the total
project cost has remained the same through
much of the discussion that has occurred. The
percentage of assessment has held at 15%, and
the amount that was outside of that which was
proposed at one time to be assessed to the
association has been absorbed by the storm
water utility and not by assessments.
Mr. Harvey Miller, 715 Sylvandale Court,
stated that the association is a going concern
which has money and pays taxes on the property
and insurance. He felt that it should be
assessed and that no one in the association
would disagree with getting something done to
the creek.
Mr. Alan Taylor stated that part of the
assessment is for area and part for frontage.
The creek bed contributes to the frontage part
of his proposed assessment, yet the creek will
be taken away from him if the project is done.
Mayor Mertensotto asked why pipe is being
suggested for this reach.
Engineer Klayton Eckles responded that the
property borders the main creek as well as the
tributary, and when he did a cost calculation
for addressing the problem of the tributary,
which has some serious erosion, he determined
that the most cost effective solution would be
to install a pipe in the tributary. He
further explained that significant cost is
added to the project when pipes are added to
take care of the tributary erosion problem.
This is why the proposed Taylor assessment has
increased. Adding the pipe is just for the
benefit of the Taylor property, which is not
part of the creek system.
Public Works Director Danielson stated that at
this point the project is just in the
schematic design process and that he would be
willing to work with Mr. Taylor to do
something more desirable to him.
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November 17, 1992
Mr. Abrahamson asked Mr. Sanders to respond to
his expert's suggestion.
Mr. Sanders responded that his opinion is that
the sandbags could possibly be used in a low
flow situation but big storms would wash them
away. He did not believe they would work in
the creek.
Mr. Crary stated that discussion has been
going on for 10 years and the problem has been
studied to death. He further stated that all
anyone must do to know that something must be
done is to look at what has happened to the
creek over the past several years. He further
stated that people must realize that 85% of
the proposed cost will be funded by sources
other than assessments and that everyone must
consider the hazards which exist.
Mr. Brassard stated that no one wants to pay
an assessment but that property owners are
losing as much in value per year as what is
proposed.to be assessed.
Mr. Abrahamson referred to the statement in
his letter regarding the former City
Engineer's comments on future assessments.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that Mr.
Abrahamson was quoting from an engineer's
report which Council has no background on and
informed Mr. Abrahamson that Council would
never tell an individual that he would never
be assessed for future improvements.
Councilmember Smith stated that essentially
only gabions have been presented as a solution
yet the consultants say that other options
could be feasible. She asked whether the
engineers, in the design stage, will look at
other possible options where something as
sturdy as a gabion is not needed.
Mr. Langseth responded that this is the phase
of the study at which one determines which
alternative will be the most cost effective:
the alternatives have already been narrowed
down to the small drop structures, and gabions
are the best of small drop structures in terms
of proven technology. He further stated that
most of what would be considered as
alternatives are unproven and he could not say
that they would be durable enough and that he
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November 17, 1992
believes what is proposed is the most
appropriate and cost effective solution.
Councilmember Smith asked what kind of life
can be expected from this type of improvement.
Mr. Sanders responded that gabions were first
developed in Europe and have been in use for
about 50 years - they have been in use at
least 20 years in Minnesota and have held up
well. He stated that he feels the gabion drop
structures provide the best solution.
Responding to a question from Councilmember
Smith regarding ponding, Engineer Eckles
stated that the existing pond in Ivy Falls
Park does not even have to change. The plan
is to increase the holding capacity, not to
increase the size of the pond. The pond will
hold more water for a period of time, and that
water will totally empty into the creek at a
metered rate.
After discussion, it was the consensus to
increase the prosecution line item in the
proposed 1993 budget by $33,000 for purpose of
the December 1st public hearing and to direct
staff to request proposals from legal firms.
There being no further comments, Mayor
Mertensotto thanked the audience members for
their attendance and comments and reminded
them that a formal public hearing on the
matter will be conducted on December 1st.
STORM WATER UTILITY
Council acknowledged a report from Assistant
City Engineer Klayton Eckles regarding the
proposed storm water drainage utility
ordinance and policy. Council also
acknowledged receipt of the proposed policy.
Councilmember Cummins moved that a public
hearing on the establishment of a storm water
utility be held at 8:00 P.M. on December 15th.
Councilmember Blesener seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
PROSECUTION FEES
Council acknowledged a memo from the City
Administrator regarding a request from
Winthrop and'Weinstein for an increase in
police prosecution legal fees. Administrator
Lawell summarized the information for council.
After discussion, it was the consensus to
increase the prosecution line item in the
proposed 1993 budget by $33,000 for purpose of
the December 1st public hearing and to direct
staff to request proposals from legal firms.
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November 17, 1992
COUNCIL COMMENTS Mayor Mertensotto asked Public Works Director
Danielson to contact Mrs. Kennedy with respect
to future planning for the utility layout
which will affect her property on Delaware
Avenue.
Councilmember Cummins informed Council that
the Metropolitan Council District 15 seat is
up for appointment and he is a member of the
screening committee.
Councilmember Blesener asked why a large pile
of sand has been dumped in the Mendakota Park
parking lot.
Administrator Lawell stated that the material
will be needed in the spring and was placed in
the parking lot now so that it can be moved
onto the field areas after the ground freezes
and does not have to be brought in during the
spring when the ground is soft.
Councilmember Blesener expressed concern over
the safety of children who are playing in it
and potential damage to the parking lot.
Administrator Lawell stated that he will look
into the matter further.
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before
the Council, Councilmember Blesener moved that
the meeting be adjourned.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 11:06 o'clock P.M.
gathleen M. Swanson
City Clerk
ATTEST:
Charles E. Mertensotto
Mayor
LIST OF CONTRACTORS TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL
November 17, 1992
General Contractors License
Ryan Company Inc.
Industrial Door Co., Inc.
Concrete License
A & B Cement Const. Inc.
Hafner/Nelson Masonry Inc.
Gas Piping License
Rouse Mechanical
Metro Air Inc.
Waste Inc. DBA A-Aarons
HVAC Contractors License
Northwestern Service, Inc.
Metro Air, Inc.
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