1993-09-07 Council minutesPage No. 3741
September 7, 1993
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, September 7, 1993
Pursuant to due call
and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the
City Council, City of
Mendota Heights, was held at 7:30 o'clock P.M.
at City Hall, 1101 Victoria
Curve, Mendota Heights, Minnesota.
Mayor Mertensotto called
the meeting to order at 7:30 o'clock P.M.
The following members
were present: Mayor Mertensotto, Councilmembers
Huber, Koch, Krebsbach and Smith.
AGENDA ADOPTION
Councilmember Krebsbach moved adoption of the
agenda for the meeting.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Councilmember Smith moved approval of the
minutes of the July 20, 1993 regular meeting
with corrections.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of the
minutes of the August 3, 1993 regular meeting
with corrections.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of the
minutes of the August 17, 1993 regular
meeting.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Councilmember Smith moved approval of the
minutes of the August 21, 1993 Target Issues
workshop and August 31 budget workshop.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CONSENT CALENDAR
Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of the
consent calendar for the meeting, revised to
move items c, e and s to the regular agenda,
along with authorization for execution of any
necessary documents contained therein.
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September 7, 1993
a. Acknowledgment of the Code Enforcement
monthly report for August.
b. Adoption of Resolution No 93 -45,
"RESOLUTION APPROVING FINAL PLAT FOR
FOXWOOD PLAT."
c. Approval of a disputed claim release from
the Victoria Highlands Townhome
Association regarding the plat's access
road.
d. Acknowledgment of bids received for Huber
Drive trail seal coating and award of a
contract to Professional Asphalt Services
for squeegee application for $3,295.00.
e. Approve the appointment of Bret Blaeser as
a Probationary Firefighter effective
September 7, 1993.
f. Authorization for the Mayor and City Clerk
to execute a corrective easement agreement
submitted by Centex to correct the legal
description for the Kensington 5th
Addition trail to Kensington Park.
g. Approval of a Joint Powers Agreement with
the City of Lilydale for the Mayfield
Heights Diversion project and
authorization for its execution by the
Mayor and City Clerk.
h. Acknowledgment of the minutes of the
August 24th Planning Commission meeting.
i. Adoption of Resolution No. 93 -46, "A
RESOLUTION COMMENTING ON THE MISSISSIPPI
NATIONAL RIVER AND RECREATION AREA DRAFT
COMPREHENSIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN AND
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT," and
direction staff to forward the resolution
to the National Park Service prior to the
September 10, 1993 deadline for submittal
of public comments.
j. Acknowledgment of receipt of the minutes
of the August 4, 1993 NDC -4 meeting.
k. Adoption of Resolution No. 93 -50 "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS, MINNESOTA (THE "CITY ")
AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE, SALE AND
DELIVERY OF THE CITY'S INDUSTRIAL
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September 7, 1993
DEVELOPMENT REFUNDING REVENUE BONDS
(CENTRE POINTE ONE ASSOCIATES PROJECT)
SERIES 1993 (THE "BONDS "), WHICH BONDS AND
THE INTEREST AND ANY PREMIUM THEREON SHALL
BE PAYABLE SOLELY FROM REVENUES PLEDGED
THERETO; APPROVING THE FORM OF AND
AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF
THE BONDS; AND PROVIDING FOR THE SECURITY,
RIGHTS AND REMEDIES OF THE OWNERS OF SAID
BONDS," subject to agreement that the
borrower will pay any expenses for the
City Attorney's review, along with waiver
of one half of the $17,200 Industrial
Revenue Bond fee.
1. Approval to establish the Truth in
Taxation Hearing on December 7 at 7:30
p.m., and adoption of Resolution No. 93-
47, "RESOLUTION APPROVING TENTATIVE 1993
LEVY COLLECTIBLE IN 1994," Resolution No.
93 -48, "RESOLUTION APPROVING FINAL 1993
TAX LEVY FOR SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT NO. 1
COLLECTIBLE IN 1994," and Resolution No.
93 -49, "RESOLUTION ADOPTING PROPOSED
BUDGET."
m. Acknowledge receipt of the July 1993 ANOMS
report.
n. Approval of the list of contractor
licenses dated September 7, 1993 and
attached hereto.
o. Approval of the list of claims dated
September 7, 1993 and totalling
$406,486.39.
p. Authorization of an expenditure of $965.00
to fund the city's portion of a study to
determine the feasibility of a Dakota
County Joint Communications System.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
R &R FIREWOOD Council acknowledged a request from Mr. Walter
Zuk and R &R Firewood for a temporary special
use permit to allow the cutting and removal of
the wood currently on the McNeil site at 1455
Perron Road. Council also acknowledged an
associated report from the Public Works
Director.
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September 7, 1993
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the city has
addressed the issue before with the property
owners, who had submitted an escrow deposit
which was forfeited to the city because the
wood was not removed. He further stated that
before any permit is issued he would want the
applicant to submit a $500 escrow which would
be forfeited to the city to defray enforcement
costs if the operation does not cease by March
15, 1994.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if only the
processing operation is required to cease at
the termination of the permit. Administrator
Lawell responded that all operations on the
site must end by March 15th and that the
fourth condition of the agreement will be
revised to state that the firewood processing
and storage will cease.
Responding to a question from Councilmember
Smith, Administrator Lawell stated that no
additional firewood can be brought to the site
and that the permit provides for the cutting
and removal of the wood which has been stocked
on the site for nearly a decade.
Mayor Mertensotto felt that it must be made
quite clear to the applicant that no
additional wood may be brought to the site
from any source, that all operations must
cease by March 15th, and that he must submit a
security deposit to cover any city expenses in
connection with the permit.
Councilmember Smith moved to issue a temporary
special use permit to Walter Zuk and R&R
Firewood with the conditions specified in the
agreement subject to submission of a $500
security deposit to cover any city expenses in
connection with the permit, the deposit to be
returned to the applicant if the operations
cease on or before March 15, 1994, and on the
condition that no wood can be brought to the
site from any source.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
WATER TOWER FENCING Council acknowledged bids received for
security fencing inside the water tower.
Councilmember Smith moved to accept the bids
and award the contract for water tower
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September 7, 1993
security fencing to Century Fence for its low
bid of $3,888.00.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
ST. THOMAS ACADEMY Council acknowledged a letter from St. Thomas
Academy requesting a variance from Ordinance
1201 to allow its environmental studies class
to operate a motorized pontoon on Rogers Lake.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he understands
the request is to allow the use of a pontoon,
propelled by an electric motor, for the
purpose of taking water samples and bottom
samples for scientific analysis. He pointed
out that Council has religiously protected the
ordinance with the exception that a similar
request had been granted to St. Thomas in the
past on the basis that the information
generated would be shared with the city. He
informed Council that the information was
never received. He felt that the request
should be denied, stating that if the use is
allowed Council may receive similar requests
from individuals wishing to use motorized
watercraft for family gatherings.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that the St.
Thomas request differs from others because it
is for scientific and educational purposes and
because the pontoon platform is necessary in
order to get the samples. She further stated
that she would not vote to approve a similar
request in connection with a family picnic,
nor would she approve the St. Thomas request
if there were evidence that they had abused a
permit granted in the past.
Mayor Mertensotto felt that sixteen days of
use, as presented in the St. Thomas letter, is
too long and that approving the request would
set a precedent.
Public Works
Council that
the environm,
and that the
sampling was
results were
Director Danielson informed
he has been a guest speaker for
antal studies class in the past
result of its last efforts at
not successful, which is why the
not shared with the city.
Mayor Mertensotto suggested that action on the
request be tabled and that St. Thomas should
provide an agreement on shared results and
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September 7, 1993
information on the size of the motor proposed
to be used, and limited dates for the
activity.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to table action
on the request.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
FRIENDLY HILLS Mayor Mertensotto opened the meeting for the
FEASIBILITY HEARING purpose of a public hearing on proposed
improvements to serve the Friendly Hills
Additions.
Assistant Engineer Eckles stated that the
purpose of the hearing is to consider the
reconstruction of streets in the entire
Friendly Hills neighborhood, which includes
the first and second additions. He explained
that 3.5 miles of streets, which are 25 years
old and beyond their serviceable life, are
included within the scope of the project. He
informed the audience that in 1992 Council
adopted a street reconstruction and
rehabilitation policy to address the issue of
what to do when it comes time to repair
streets. The policy states that the city
encourages people to support upgrading streets
to urban design standards and will subsidize
the construction of streets reconstructed to
urban standards, which includes curb and
gutter. He explained the differences between
reconstruction and rehabilitation of streets.
He stated that the existing streets in
Friendly Hills are 30 feet wide blacktop mat
and that the mat is thinner than the city
standard and badly aged. He reviewed the
advantages of curb and gutter, including
extended street life, protection of yards and
grass, protection of the edge of the blacktop,
easier plowing and maintenance of the streets
and better appearance. He pointed out that
the best advantage is that the city will
partly pay for the future rehabilitation of
those streets which have curb and gutter.
Engineer Eckles reviewed several graphics on
what the total reconstruction would involve
and on the estimated project costs. He
informed the audience that storm sewer is
included in the project, as is the realignment
of the Dodd/Decorah intersection and the
reconstruction of Decorah to MSA standards,
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September 7, 1993
which include 38 foot width and curb and
gutter. He described the MSA standards,
explaining that because Decorah is a collector
street receiving much more traffic than a
typical residential street it qualifies for
MSA classification and its reconstruction can
be heavily subsidized by state funding. He
then reviewed graphics on the funding
mechanisms and explained that it is proposed
to assess all of the lots equally, at $3,750
per lot. He informed the audience that
assessments for the improvements would be
collectible over a 19 year period at 7%
interest or could be paid in full without
interest before certification.
Mayor Mertensotto asked for questions and
comments from the audience.
Mr. Mike Coonan, 2237 Apache, asked what width
is proposed for the streets other than
Decorah.
Engineer Eckles responded that the standard
city street width is 33 feet from curb face to
curb face and that to accomplish the width,
the existing boulevard area would be reduced
from 15 to 13 feet.
Mr. Mike Blake, 2204 Apache, stated that he
understands the need for storm sewer but asked
if the additions can be addressed separately.
He stated that the second addition has a
greater need and greater problems but that he
does not understand the need for curb and
gutter and storm sewer in the first addition
except the city's need to have all streets be
uniform.
Engineer Eckles responded that when there is
curb and gutter, storm sewer is needed to get
the water out of the street. He further
stated that the project is being presented
with curb and gutter because the goal and
policy of the city is to get the streets
upgraded. He pointed out that a similar
project revitalized the north end of the city
and its appearance was much improved.
Mr. Blake responded that the problem in the
first addition is caused by Mendakota Park and
stated that he does not see why property
owners should pay for poor park run -off. He
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September 7, 1993
felt that storm sewer should be installed on
Dodd Road instead.
Mr. Ken Radke, 2106 Aztec Lane, stated that
the water drains to his lot and also from the
bank and dental office on South Plaza. He
felt that something must be done to take care
of this run-off in heavy rains, explaining
that he must use a sump pump to pump water
from his basement and has cracks in his
basement floor from the water.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the streets in
Friendly Hills are 24 or 25 years old and that
normally streets today are built to a much
higher standard. He further stated that
Friendly Hills is one of the oldest
residential developments in the city and homes
in the neighborhood have been kept up. He
noted that experience in the north end of the
city has shown that urban street sections help
maintain property values, but pointed out that
Council will not force urban streets on the
Friendly Hills property owners. He stated
that simply doing an overlay will do little to
improve property values and that Council
believes that putting in urban street sections
in urban areas is the proper approach to take,
which is why Council established the
rehabilitation fund to assist in the cost of
bring the streets to urban standards. He
explained that the property owners must be the
judge and that Council will not force urban
street construction. He pointed out that city
policy has always been to assess 100% of
project costs, except the costs of pipe
oversizing, but that the new rehabilitation
policy provides that the city will support
half of the cost to construct streets to urban
design.
Mr. Radke stated that he is totally in favor
of doing the urban design project.
Mr. Don Stahl, 752 Decorah, stated that his
home is on the inside of the curve, and asked
for specific information on how the street
widening would affect his property. He also
stated that traffic on Decorah is very fast
and felt that much of the deterioration on
Decorah is due to construction traffic during
the development of Copperfield.
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September 7, 1993
Mayor Mertensotto responded that if the
project is approved Mr. Stahl should meet with
city staff for more detailed information.
Mr. Carl Becker, 2197 Aztec, asked if the
proposed assessment will be $3,750 regardless
of the amount of street frontage a lot has.
He stated that he has not been assessed in 20
years for gravel or street improvements and
asked if the $434,000 that the city would
contribute to the project would take care of
the streets for the foreseeable future.
Engineer Eckles responded that since all
properties tend to use the street about the
same amount, it is proposed that all of the
lots be assessed the same amount regardless of
frontage. He further stated that one cannot
expect streets of rural design to last much
more than 20 years and at some point they need
major reworking. He commented that if the
streets in Friendly Hills are let go much
longer they will wear down to the gravel. He
stated that the policy is to try to encourage
the urbanization of streets, and neighborhoods
which decide to participate will get funding
assistance from the city - in the case of
Friendly Hills, the city would support 470 of
the cost. He further stated that the
neighborhood must work with the Council to
decide what the best course is for the
neighborhood.
Mr. Becker stated that he favors country style
streets.
Mr. Don Stahl, Jr., 757 Decorah, stated that
he thinks curb and gutter would be unsightly
in the neighborhood and asked if it could be
constructed only on Decorah, leaving country-
style streets in the remainder of the
neighborhood. He stated that most of the
water in the second addition goes down the
east/west streets. He further stated that he
is a bicyclist and the worst part of his
journey is getting out of Friendly Hills. He
felt that storm sewer grating is unsafe to
ride across and would present a safety hazard.
He thought that this should be taken into
consideration since there is much non-
motorized vehicle activity in Friendly Hills.
He also stated that he would like to see
something done with the streets soon. Mr.
Stahl stated that he does not like the looks
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September 7, 1993
of curb and gutter but sees the need for
something on Decorah.
Mr. Lars Hesberg, 749 Decorah, stated that he
is in favor of doing something with the
streets because they are dangerous. He
further stated that something must be done to
reduce speeds on Decorah, such as speed bumps.
He stated that he knows that if Decorah is
widened he will lose some of his front yard
but would be willing to agree to the widening
if something is done about safety.
Mr. Dick Wold, 754 Mohican, stated that
mention has been made that an overlay without
curb and gutter and storm sewer would cost
$1,500 per lot. He asked how long such an
overlay would last, and also asked how
residents should go about voicing their
opinions.
Engineer Eckles responded that the expected
life would be about as long as the existing
Friendly Hills streets have lasted but pointed
out that consideration of reconstructing the
streets was discussed 8 years ago by the city.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that residents can
send Council a petition, either for or against
the proposed project, and that he will ask
Council to continue the hearing to allow
individuals to submit comments. He stated
that James Losleben has asked that the hearing
be left open because he could not attend this
evening and because he is concerned about the
intersection of Keokuk and Pagel.
Mr. Wold stated that he would like the streets
resurfaced with no curb and gutter.
Mayor Mertensotto informed the audience that
if the residents want only an overlay, the
property owners would have to pay the total
project cost, at an anticipated assessment
amount of $1,500 per lot. He further stated
that Council is talking about upgrading the
streets to urban design and that he is
convinced that doing so would increase the
values of properties in the neighborhood.
Councilmember Huber stated that he hopes the
proposed project does not become a divisive
issue in the neighborhood and pointed out that
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Council wants to get a lot of input from the
residents.
Mr. Robert Biels, 712 Decorah, expressed
concern over the safety of young children
living on Decorah, stating that the street is
like a highway now and widening it to 38 feet
will turn it into a freeway. He felt the
street would be very dangerous for children.
He also stated that over the years his
property value has increased much more than he
would have imagined. He stated that money is
not the issue to him but rather that he likes
the streets the way they are and does not like
curb and gutter. He further stated that
people in the area keep the neighborhood up
very nicely and the project will not enhance
the neighborhood by $3,750 per lot. He
pointed out that Huber Drive was recently seal
coated and nothing has been done in Friendly
Hills for years. He asked what the benefit of
reconstruction is if it will only last 20
years - the same life as rehabilitation.
Ms. Rita Burkhard, 726 Decorah Lane, asked if
the city will replace trees that are taken
down if the project goes through. She stated
that she thinks some of her trees are within 4
feet of the street. She also stated that if
the street is widened something must be done
about traffic speeds or someone will be
seriously injured.
Ms. Rosemary Rued stated that she has lived in
the area for 35 years and many years ago her
family hired an attorney to fight curb and
gutter. She stated that her property has 205
feet of frontage and she is concerned that she
will have to pay for the full frontage. She
informed Council that she is very opposed to
the project, does not feel that the street
improvement or storm sewer is necessary, and
the proposed assessment would be a hardship
for her. She also expressed concern over the
speed of traffic on Decorah.
Responding to the concerns over traffic speed
on Decorah, Mayor Mertensotto stated that he
will bring the concerns to the attention of
the Police Chief.
Mr. George Weiner, 2145 Fox Place, stated that
the water problems come from the spillway by
his property coming off of Dodd Road. He felt
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September 7, 1993
that something should have been done to
correct the drainage problem years ago, and
informed Council that he is opposed to curb
and gutter. He felt that something should be
done with the street and that the city should
correct the drainageway between his property
and the old fire station site.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the proposed
project was not initiated just for storm water
problems. He informed the audience that if
only an overlay is done and the properties are
assessed $1,500, owners should not come back
in the future and expect a credit of $1,500 if
they then want curb and gutter.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would
like to know the extent of the water problems
and whether the residents truly prefer country
style streets or oppose urban design because
of the cost. She also stated that she would
like to know whether people would prefer the
realignment of the Dodd/Decorah intersection.
Mr. Becker stated that he opposes the project
and that when the city removed the fire
station it did nothing to correct the drainage
problems. He further stated that he would
appreciate the streets being overlaid but does
not want curb and gutter.
Mr. Brad Herbert, 2158 Fox Place, stated that
he does not think curb and gutter is needed
and that the drainage problem in the first
addition comes from Dodd Road through the old
fire station site and then goes down Hokah.
He felt that this is the only drainage problem
needing correction.
Mr. Lew, 787 Mohican, stated that the
assessment would cost about $27.80 per month,
which would not be a hardship to him but there
are many people in the neighborhood who have
limited means.
Mr. John Maczko, 751 Cheyenne, stated that he
has mixed feelings about the project - he
works for the City of St. Paul and they cannot
keep up with the requests from people who want
to go from country to urban design streets
because of the property value increase. He
stated that he cannot justify a $3,750
assessment and does not believe the value of
his property will increase to than extent. He
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September 7, 1993
stated that the curb will help keep cars on
the street an not in his yard and would make
the neighborhood look nicer, but not to the
extent of $3,750.
Mr. Blake stated that it sounds to him that
the cost factor for the people on Decorah
would be nothing if MSA funds were used and
nothing were done to the rest of the
neighborhood. He further stated that the
excess MSA funds could be put to good use if
the city did a study on how to slow traffic on
Decorah. He suggested that the city do a
mailed survey of the neighborhood to see what
people want done because there are two issues
- no one wants to pay $3,750 for
reconstruction and it sounds like it may be
beneficial for the city to upgrade Decorah.
Engineer Eckles responded that MSA can be used
to fund some, but not much, of the storm sewer
cost, and that a number of formulas are used
to determine how much funding the state will
provide for a project.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that another
issue is the extent to which the neighborhood
has maintained a standard - the neighborhood
seems to have maintained itself well without
improving the streets. She felt that the
question is whether reconstruction is another
enhancement which would sustain the
neighborhood.
Mayor Mertensotto felt that it would be very
difficult as far as storm water problems, to
upgrade Decorah to MSA standards without doing
anything for storm water in the rest of the
neighborhood. He explained that Council can
look at upgrading Decorah but there would
still be an assessment involved.
Engineer Eckles stated that the total
reconstruction project would cost an estimated
$1.7 million. An overlay project on the 3.5
miles of street, including repairing some of
the bad spots in the subsurface of the
streets, would cost about $400,000, which
would result in an assessment of about $1,500
per lot. He pointed out that there would be
no guarantee on an overlay project but on a
total reconstruction project the city
guarantees and maintains streets to urban
standards.
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September 7, 1993
Mr. Mike Coonan stated that as he understands
the discussion, the city would participate in
the costs of a reconstruction project but
would not participate in the cost of an
overlay project. He felt that rehabilitation
of the streets should have been addressed
seven years ago and stated that he is opposed
to curb and gutter but would be in favor of an
overlay or a complete rebuilding without curb
and gutter.
Mr. Don Stahl, Jr., stated that the comparison
between Friendly Hills and any other
neighborhood in the city is unfair because
Friendly Hills is unique. He objected to curb
and gutter.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that there are over
100 people in attendance at the hearing and
apparently most want only a blacktop overlay.
He informed the audience that Council will
keep the public comment period open for
another 60 days to allow property owners to
submit comments.
Councilmember Koch stated that she has
received calls from people who are in favor of
the reconstruction project and that she would
like the hearing kept open to allow those who
are in favor of it to submit their comments.
With respect to the safety issue on Decorah,
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council will
direct the Police Chief to address the problem
and that it will be up to him to determine how
best to handle it.
Councilmember Smith stated that comments have
been made this evening that many communities
have found curb and gutter to be advantageous
and there are reasons it can be beneficial but
that she is reluctant to compare Mendota
Heights to other cities. She further stated
that urban style streets may be a standard to
aspire to in the neighborhoods that want it
but that Council does not want to force that
standard on neighborhoods which do not want
it.
There being no further questions or comments,
the Council by consensus continued the hearing
to November 2.
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September 7, 1993
RECESS Mayor Mertensotto called a recess at 10:00
p.m. The meeting was reconvened at 10:10 p.m.
FIRE TRUCK Fire Chief Mackzo reviewed his memo regarding
the bid award for refurbishing fire truck 2287
and the removal of the squrt from the 1970
pumper. He stated that bid forms were sent to
three manufacturers and only Custom Fire
Apparatus submitted a bid. He informed
Council that Custom built the 1988 pumper and
has built numerous vehicles for cities in the
area. He explained that the bidders were
required to submit a base bid and bid on five
alternates. one of the alternates was to
install a 1,000 gallon tank on the existing
squrt unit, which the department feels will
increase the resale value. It is anticipated
that the value of the truck after installation
of the tank will be $20,000. He recommended
approval of this alternate (A) and alternate D
Squrt boom light ($650) but not alternates B
and C. He informed Council that the bidder
has recommended an alternate for stainless
steel construction ($4,500 cost) rather than
aluminum as had been specified. He explained
that stainless steel construction would be
warranted for 15 years compared to a 5 year
warranty for aluminum construction, and
recommended approval of the alternate. Chief
Maczko informed Council that the total cost
for the refurbishing including the recommended
alternates is $135,730, $12,370 over the
estimated cost, and the cost for a new truck
would be $290,000.
Mayor Mertensotto asked what other fire
departments have removed articulating arms
from units and placed them on others. He
expressed concern over making such an
investment to refurbish a 1978 vehicle.
Chief Maczko responded that St. Paul has
remounted three articulating arms on new
chassis. He stated that virtually everything
on the 1978 unit has been rebuilt and that the
department feels that refurbishing the unit
will be an excellent investment.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that bills for
repairs on unit 2287 come up on the claims
list more than any other piece of equipment
and that the repair costs will not change if
the unit has the same engine.
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September 7, 1993
Assistant Chief Neska reviewed repairs which
have been made to the unit, stating that most
have been just normal wear and tear. He
stated that the truck is 15 years old and by
putting a new chassis on it, it will last
another 15 years.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the 1970 pumper
is underpowered and he did not think it would
resell for $20,000 even with a 1,000 gallon
tank. Chief Maczko responded that he is
basing his recommendation on the 1,000 gallon
tank on research. He explained that the tank
will benefit the city in that protection is
provided to Sunfish Lake, but the real reason
the tank is proposed is for resale value. He
informed Council that the department proposes
to trade the unit in, along with the 1960
unit, in the next two years on an aerial
truck.
Assistant Chief Neska stated that it will only
cost $1,200 to put the tank on the pumper now
because the truck will be taken apart for
removal of the Squrt, but it would cost
another city $5,000 to $6,000 to replace the
tank later.
Responding to a comment from Mayor Mertensotto
on making a $135,000 investment to upgrade
#2287, Chief Maczko stated that the city still
has a 1960 pumper in service and it does not
cost much to operate. He explained that the
drive train, engine, etc., which are on 2287
are still in production today and that all of
those parts are in great shape and should last
at least another 15 years.
Councilmember Huber expressed concern that
only one bid was received. Chief Maczko
responded that the truck is custom built and
two of the bidders are too busy to take on the
project. He informed Council that the
specification was not written restrictively
and that the department did not anticipate
that only one bid would be received.
Councilmember Huber stated that he accepts the
recommendation to install a 1,000 gallon tank
on the pumper because of its usefulness to the
city but pointed out that no decision has been
made on an aerial truck or sale of the unit in
two years.
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September 7, 1993
Councilmember Huber moved to accept the bid
and award the contract for refurbishing truck
2287 to Custom Fire Apparatus for their base
bid of $129,380 and alternates A for $1,200,
alternate D for $650, and the alternate to
upgrade to a stainless steel body, for a total
cost of $135,730.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 1 Mertensotto
Mayor Mertensotto asked what value would be
received for unit 2287 in the event of an
accident. Staff was directed to contact the
city's insurance carrier for information.
PUBLIC WORKS GARAGE Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works
Garage Project Manager Guy Kullander regarding
bid awards and change orders for the public
works garage expansion.
Councilmember Smith moved to accept bids and
issue purchase orders to Pine Bend Paving for
asphalt surfacing for its low bid of
$10,049.71, to Droel's Caulking Co., for
caulking of control and expansion joints for
$596.00 and to Waterproofing, Inc., to coat
the repaired north block wall for $120, and to
approve the following change orders: change
order no. 4 to Dahn Excavating, $6,255.48
(install, grade and compact Class 5 crushed
rock); change order no. 5, Dahn Builders,
$2,190 (repair, insulation and patching of
walls); change order no. 6, Witt Miller
Proofing, $1,846.00 (tapered insulation over
office); change order no. 7, Klamm Mechanical,
$1,448.78 (increase watermain for fire
sprinkler system); change order no. 8, Klamm
Mechanical, $2,800 (relocate existing LP gas
line); change order no. 9, Cool Air
Mechanical, $3,380.00 (natural gas piping);
and change order no. 10, Carlson Fire
Protection, $1,404.00 (sprinkler system
modifications).
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the.motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 93 -17, DEEB Mr. Jake Deeb was present to request approval
of a wetlands permit to build an approximate
1,000 square foot detached garage at 1780 Dodd
Road within 36 feet of Willow Creek. Council
J acknowledged associated reports from the
Public Works Director and City Planner, along
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September 7, 1993
with the minutes of the Planning Commission
meetings from July and August.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he has spoken to
Mr. Deeb and while Mr. Deeb is asking for a
wetlands permit so that he can build a 1,000
square foot garage, he believes a conditional
use permit is needed.
Mr. Deeb responded that at the Planning
Commission meeting he was told that if he
eliminated his existing tuck-under garage and
wants to build a detached garage he could
build a structure of between 450 and 1,000
square feet without a conditional use permit.
He stated that he does not believe he needs a
conditional use permit if the existing garage
is eliminated.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Mr. Deeb could
build a three-car garage for garage purposes
but felt that the structure would be
considered an accessory structure if it were
1,000 square feet in size.
Public Works Director Danielson responded his
interpretation of the ordinance is that if the
existing garage were eliminated Mr. Deeb could
build a detached garage between 450 and 1,000
square feet, and that any structure greater
than 144 square feet other than a garage
requires a conditional use permit. He pointed
out that in any event, unless the existing
garage is eliminated, a conditional use permit
is required. He informed Council that because
Mr. Deeb proposes to place the structure
within the wetland setback, the Planning
Commission felt that the wetland issue should
be discussed first.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the Planning
Commission could not arrive at a consensus on
a recommendation. He stated that a wetlands
permit cannot be issued until a determination
is made on what can be built.
There was discussion over the history of the
lot and the re-routing of the creek in the
past.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that information
given to Mr. Deeb has been misleading and
there is confusion over what is considered an
accessory structure and what is considered a
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September 7, 1993
garage. He pointed out that Mr. Deeb is
asking for a 1,000 square foot structure to
use as a three-car garage. He suggested that
the wetlands permit fee paid by Mr. Deeb be
refunded and that the Planning Commission be
directed to resolve the questions about the
ordinance language. He stated that he would
be very surprised if Mr. Deeb does not need a
conditional use permit, and that Mr. Deeb will
still need a wetlands permit after the issue
of accessory structure versus garage is
resolved.
Mr. Deeb stated that he wants to build an
unattached building of 1,000 square feet in
size, and that he would like the city to
refund the wetlands permit fee.
City Attorney Hart stated that the issue is
confusing in that there are a number of
variables - what has been applied for and
whether it meets the test of a garage by
definition of the ordinance, and whether the
application was filed before the adoption of
the recently revised accessory structure
provisions in the zoning ordinance.
Councilmember Smith moved to refund the
wetlands permit application fee.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Mayor Mertensotto informed Mr. Deeb that the
Planning Commission will be directed to
resolve the impasse over the interpretation of
accessory structure versus garage within the
next 30 days.
KANE WATER ASSESSMENT Mr. Raymond Kane, 2579 Delaware Avenue,
submitted a petition and waiver of hearing for
watermain improvements in connection with the
Biel/Kennedy project and a request for
deferment. Council also acknowledged an
associated memo and proposed resolution from
Public Works Director Danielson.
Mayor Mertensotto informed Mr. Kane that if a
deferment is granted, collection of the
deferred amount and accrued interest would be
delayed until such time as the property is
sold or connects to city water.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved adoption of
Resolution No. 93-51, "RESOLUTION ADOPTING AND
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September 7, 1993
CONFIRMING ASSESSMENTS FOR WATER IMPROVEMENTS
TO SERVE THE BIEL, KENNEDY AND KANE PROPERTIES
(IMPROVEMENT NO. 93, PROJECT NO. 2)."
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Staff was directed to prepare a resolution to
defer the Kane assessment for adoption at the
next Council meeting.
BIEL /KENNEDY /KANE Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works
SANITARY SEWER Director Danielson regarding a request from
the Biels, Kennedys and Kanes for an extension
of sanitary sewer to their properties on
Delaware Avenue. Mr. Danielson informed
Council that the property owners have
submitted a petition and waiver of hearing but
feel that the projected assessment of $6,833
per lot is too high.
Mayor Mertensotto suggested that the
engineering costs of $4,400 be charged to the
utility reserve fund, which would reduce the
project cost to $16,100. He pointed out that
sewer assessments are generally levied on two
sides of the sewer line, but because the other
side of Delaware is in Sunfish Lake only the
three affected properties can be assessed.
The property owners informed Council that they
would meet with Mr. Danielson and decide
whether to pursue the sewer extension at this
time.
LILYDALE UTILITY Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works
REQUEST Director Danielson relative to a request from
Mr. Bill Stub for approval to connect property
located in Lilydale, located at Victoria and
T.H. 13, to the city's sanitary sewer and
water systems.
Mr. Strub informed Council that he plans to
build five townhouse units on the property.
He informed Council that Lilydale had approved
a plan from another developer for 23 units on
the site. The project was never built because
Dakota County took a large part of the site as
right -of -way for realignment of Victoria. Mr.
Strub explained that the development he will
propose to Lilydale will be for five very low
profile townhomes. He explained that the site
will never be used for single family
development because the expense would be too
great, and informed Council that he is present
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September 7, 1993
this evening to ask Council to determine the
per unit utility connection charge.
Councilmember Smith stated that she would like
to give the Ettingers the opportunity to
review the proposal and would like to know
what impact the development would have on
their property.
Councilmember Krebsbach pointed out that
Mendota Heights residents have not had the
opportunity to react to the proposal. She
felt that adjacent property owners in Mendota
Heights should be informed on what is planned
and what the city's role is.
Mr. Strub responded that his survey was
completed today and he should receive it on
Thursday. He stated that he will transpose
the five units onto the site plan for adjacent
property owners to review. With respect to
the connection charge options in the Public
Works Director's memo, Mr. Strub stated that
he will only be using 200 feet of the lot
frontage and cannot afford a $28,000 cost for
five units.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked what the
projected sale price of the units is. Mr.
Strub responded that he will try to keep the
price between $185,000 and $225,000. He
explained that much dirt removal and
compaction must be done and the proximity of
the site to the Shiely operation and the
service station and liquor operations on T.H.
13 depress the market for the property.
Councilmember Smith felt that the Option A
connection charge is too generous and Option B
is too high, and stated that she would be
willing to consider half of the assessment
originally proposed for the property.
Mr. Strub thanked Council for its
consideration and stated that he will prepare
and submit a plot plan for Council and the
neighboring property owners as soon as
possible.
PUD ORDINANCE Council acknowledged receipt of the proposed
Planned Unit Development Ordinance amendment.
Action on the matter was tabled to September
21.
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September 7, 1993
IVY FALLS CREEK Council acknowledged an update from Pub ' lic
Works Director Danielson on the Ivy Falls
Creek improvement project. It was the
consensus of Council that a hearing should be
conducted to notify affected property owners
of a proposed change in the bidding date,
construction season and assessment
certification date.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved adoption of
Resolution No. 93-52, "RESOLUTION CALLING FOR
HEARING ON AMENDMENT OF RESOLUTION NO. 92-82
ORDERING IVY FALLS CREEK IMPROVEMENTS
(IMPROVEMENT NO. 91, PROJECT NO. 6).11
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before
the Council, Councilmember Smith moved that
the meeting be adjourned.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 12:15 o'clock A.M.
K,ithleen M. Swanson
City Clerk
ATTEST:
Charles E. Mertensotto
Mayor
LIST OF CONTRACTORS TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL
September 7, 1993
HVAC License
Thermex Corporation
General Contractors License
Bremer Construction