2006-09-26 Planning Comm MinutesPlanning Commission Meeting
September 26, 2006
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
September 26, 2006
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was held on Tuesday, September 26, 2006
in the Council Chambers at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve at 7:30 pm.
The following Commissioners were present: Chair Lorberbaum, Commissioners Lally, Povolny, Dolan and
Hesse. Those excused: Commissioners McManus and Harms. Also present were Mendota Heights City
Engineer Sue McDermott and Planner Steve Grittman. Minutes were recorded by Becki Shaffer.
ApprovalofAuzust22, 2006 Minutes
Additional correction to the July 27, 2006 minutes. Change the following paragraph to read as follows:
Page 1; first paragraph under Case #06 -21:
"Mr. Grittman reviewed a map showing the location of 741 Knollwood Court in which the application is for a
Critical Area Permit. The property was subject to soil failure in the rear portion of the lot. Mr. Grittman noted
that the neighbor's property was affected by the failure as well. The application is supported by extension of
the geographical report from the applicant's consultant. This information has also been reviewed by the City
Engineer. Mr. Grittman said it is in the interest of the Critical Area to repair the slope in a way to prevent any
future erosion."
Corrections to the August 22'd minutes:
Page 3, 9th paragraph should be corrected as follows:
"Commissioner Dolan asked if there are any other fences along the bluff line. Mr. Grittman said he is not aware
of any. Commissioner Dolan asked if there are any other fences along the right of way. Mr. Grittman said there
is one just a few houses down, but is technically located in n Lilydale.
Page 5, under the comments made by Mr. Burt Anderson, change the two following sentences:
"Mr. Anderson said he raised a daughter famil around this bluff ..." "Mr. Anderson said this property, at one
time, had hedging along the front of the property, and the monuments are nothing but elaborate structures which
had were there were lights at the end of the driveway."
Page 7, 4th paragrgpli, second sentence should read as follows:
"Mr. Grittman said the consultants felt it would be preferable to combine the two projects, but they will be
going forward independently."
COMMISSIONER DOLAN MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER POVOLNY, TO APPROVE
THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 22, 2006 AS CORRECTED.
4 AYES
0 NAYES
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1 Abstention (Commissioner Hesse)
MOTION CARRIED
Chair Lorberbaum said she received a letter from Mr. Dave Olson, 1049 Douglas Road, who wants to build a
storage shed in the future and has not yet applied for any permits. Mr. Olson states in his letter that he has an
issue with the City's rules about size. Chair Lorberbaum said there may be other people who have issues about
size of sheds and told the Commissioners that they can go forward with the first case either way, and asked if
there is any interest from the Planning Commissioners to hold a workshop with the City Council to talk about
sizes of sheds and took into this issue. Commissioner Lally asked Ms. McDermott if there are requests that the
minimum size is too small. Ms. McDermott said on the day Mr. Harkness came in to talk to Staff, there were
two more residents that had similar requests. Commissioner Dolan asked if the City's ordinances are unusually
restrictive on shed size. Mr. Grittman said it is more common to allow other accessory building space larger
than just the minimum size that Mendota Heights' ordinance allows, but there are other communities with these
same restrictions. Chair Lorberbaum said it appears that the Planning Commission is interested in holding a
workshop with the City Council.
HEARINGS
PLANNING CASE #06 -29
Tom and Nancy Harkness
1245 Dodd Road
Variance
Mr. Grittman shared a map of 1245 Dodd Road, in which the applicant is seeking a variance from the maximum
shed size requirement of 144 -sq. ft. to 192 sq. ft. The applicants have a single family home on the property
which has an attached single car garage with the driveway off Dodd Road, and the proposed shed would be
located in the rear portion of the property. This property is an oversized parcel with would allow for some
flexibility on the location of the shed.
Mr. Grittman said that because the property is so narrow, there is no room to expand the garage toward the side
yard in a way that would allow an additional car parking space. Staff recommends approval of this variance
request with the hardship identified as the applicant's garage is smaller than the standard zoning requirement,
and there is inadequate room to expand it in a way that would provide for additional parking area.
Chair Lorberbaum asked about the woodpiles located in the back of the property. Mr. Grittman said this is
covered under the property maintenance ordinances. Chair Lorberbaum said she will ask the applicant if the
wood will be stored in the shed.
Tom and Nancy Harkness, 1245 Dodd Road, said the shed would accommodate lawn equipment and house
maintenance items that are currently located in the garage. Mr. Harkness said he would like to use his garage
for parking at least one of his vehicles. Mr. Harkness said they heat their home with wood, and that is why
there is so much wood in the back yard. He will not be storing the wood in the shed.
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Chair Lorberbaum asked about the trailer in the front yard. Mr. Harkness said this trailer is parked on a parking
pad adjoining the driveway, and is parked between two large trees. Mr. Harkness said he cannot place the
trailer in the back yard, as he cannot drive a vehicle around the house due to space limitations.
Commissioner Povolny said there seems to be other sheds in the neighborhood and asked for clarification on the
locations of those neighboring sheds. Mr. Harkness explained where the sheds were located.
Chair Lorberbaum opened the public hearing. Seeing no one come forward to speak, Chair Lorberbaum asked
for a motion to close the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER LALLY MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLAN, TO CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING.
5 AYES
0 NAYES
MOTION CARRIED
COMMISSIONER HESSE MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER POVOLNY, TO
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST AS PROPOSED BASED ON THE
FINDING THE APPLICANT HAS SHOWN A HARDSHIP TO COMPLY WITH THE ZONING
REGULATIONS AND THAT NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE EXISTS FOR EXPANDING THE
GARAGE. SUCH SHED SIDE IS REASONABLE TO PROVIDE PERSONAL STORAGE NEEDS.
Further Discussion
Commissioner Lally said it seems reasonable given the large size of this lot.
5 AYES
0 NAYS
MOTION CARRIED
Mr. Harkness said he stated in his letter of intent that they will not be available until the October 17th City
Council meeting. Ms. McDermott said Case #06 -29 will be placed on the agenda for the October 17th meeting.
PLANNING CASE #06 -30
Pat Hoffman
2105 Lexington Avenue S.
Lemay Shores Comprehensive Plan Amendment
Mr. Grittman reviewed the map showing the location 2105 Lexington Avenue South, which is a portion of
Resurrection Cemetery property. The applicants are seeking to have a comprehensive plan amendment that
would apply to this portion that would allow residential use of this property from its current designation for
institutional uses. The property is not occupied by any other use other than open space at this time. The
applicants, if successful with this comprehensive plan amendment, and eventual zoning and subdivision
approvals, will be proposing a residential project of housing similar to the Augusta Shores project that is just
north of this site.
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Mr. Grittman showed a map indicating the proposed layout of the site, which is only in concept planning now.
This proposal requires the City to act on the comprehensive plan amendment and portion of the Planners Report
refers to the rezoning of the property, which would be a subsequent action. The project would contain 68 acres,
of which 48 acres would be open space on the property. The concept plan, known as Lemay Shores, shows
approximately 62 twin home units.
Mr. Grittman said that in reviewing this proposed amendment, the city must look at whether or not a proposed
land use can be accommodated in a particular location from a public service standpoint, i.e., traffic, public
utilities, sewer and water, etc. The proposed project is a very low - density project given the number of units and
the size of the property (less than one unit per acre). This property is adjacent to Lemay Lake.
Mr. Grittman said one of the most significant aspects of this site relates to the airport noise zones that are in the
area. When the Augusta Shores project was being considered the Met Council and the Metropolitan Airports
Commission worked on noise contouring (noise affects of airport runways) and with that information, the City
determined the appropriateness of the land use. There are allowances for attached housing for certain zones
versus detached housing, and a series of different tier allowances of residential uses in these areas. Mr.
Grittman said recent changes to the airport have altered the noise zones and provided a map showing those
zones. Mr. Grittman with these alterations, the proposed area is still eligible for the proposed housing plans.
Mr. Grittman said this proposed amendment change is consistent with past actions of the City, and Staff
recommends approval of the proposed changes.
Commissioner Lally asked what the current status / discussions have been with the City Council regarding open
space and the moratorium on the lot splits, given that with the proposed concept plan, only 27 of the 68 acres on
the site would be developed and the remainder would be open space. Mr. Grittman said the discussion with the
City Council in that area resulted in there will most likely be no significant changes made at the zoning level for
lot size. The Lemay Shores project will be less dense and is definitely consistent with the City's opinion on
open space preservation.
Commissioner Povolny said this is a very heavy airport traffic noise area and his concern that there are two
lakes (Augusta Lake and Lemay Lake) which have no public access and park land. He is concerned that these
lakes will not be accessible to all residents because it will be surround by private property owners.
Chair Lorberbaum reminded the Commission that the proposal before them is not the design of the concept
plan, but only to support or not support the comprehensive plan language changes.
Chair Lorberbaum said with PUD's, the City can ask for higher standards of development. Mr. Grittman said
different PUD's have different levels, some may be related to higher airport noise impacts or the design of
public streets.
Commissioner Dolan asked how the density of this proposed project would compare to Augusta Shores. Mr.
Grittman said the density would be lower than Augusta Shores. Commissioner Dolan asked if this was due to
design or the contours of the property. Mr. Grittman said it was due to design, but a larger part is the nature of
the land itself. Commissioner Dolan asked why rezoning applications were not made part of this. Mr. Grittman
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said from a procedural standpoint, the zoning would be tied to the PUD action. If the land use request for a
comprehensive plan change does not go forwards, the City would not want to act on the zoning portion.
Commissioner Dolan said in the Planners Report, it says that Noise Zone 3 prohibits single multiplex units with
individual entrances, but the City allows them. Mr. Grittman said this is due to a negotiated agreement with the
Met Council at the time of the Augusta Shores project, and it is anticipated that Met Council will follow the
same policy in future discussions. Any comprehensive plan amendment must be approved by the Met Council.
Commissioner Hesse asked when the Airport Relations Committee review this. Mr. Grittman said he is not
sure. Commissioner Povolny said he talked to the Chair of the Airports Relations Committee, who told him that
they are aware of this proposal, and have talked to Chad Levey, from the Metropolitan Airport Commission,
regarding construction standards that must be met in that area.
Chair Lorberbaum said she does not have actual numbers of complaints regarding Augusta Shores, but the fact
of the length of turnover times of the homes in the Augusta Shores area speaks to whether there are issues or
not, and to her knowledge, those homes seems to turn promptly and it seems the residents are not too upset by
any airport noise.
Mr. Peter Coyle, Larkin Hoffman Daly & Lindgren, is the attorney representing Hoffman - Mendota Shores
LLC. Mr. Coyle said he was joined by Pat Hoffman, President of Hoffman Homes, and several technical
support people from Heglund Engineering.
Mr. Coyle said he is an agreement with Mr. Grittman's statements, and this is a legislative decision by the City
Council. Mr. Coyle said that the applicant had presented a concept plan to the Planning Commission and City
Council a few months ago. This concept plan said that the applicant is ready to start Phase II, with Phase I
being Augusta Shores. Mr. Coyle said the feedback from the Planning Commission and City Council at that
time was very positive and encouraging.
Mr. Coyle said it is important to remember that when this project started by Hoffman Homes about five years
ago, the initial plan was to develop the Lemay Shores component first. The City Council was unsure about
whether or not this was going to be the right idea, and was very careful and thorough in challenging the
applicant to demonstrate that this project can be sited in any residential category with satisfactory results. Mr.
Coyle said their customers have been very enthusiastic in their appreciation in a product that's been built for
them, and the market has responded very favorably to the point where the housing has not only sold strongly but
has already hit substantial premiums when the homes have been put on the resale market. Mr. Coyle said the
complaints that have been raised with them have been essentially non - existent. Mr. Coyle said these buyers are
well — educated about the area, and are fully aware that the airport is near.
Mr. Coyle said the potential affect to adjacent property owners will be a physical separation east to west
between the existing very low density residential neighborhood and the project site across Lake Lemay of about
300 to 400 feet. Then adding quite a substantial grade separation and a very heavy vegetative screen (which
will be maintained and preserved through a conservation easement) as was done at Augusta Shores.
Mr. Coyle said he believes the Planning Commission has an old airport noise contour document from 1996 and
that has been subplanted by a 2005 map that MAC has produced on its website, which is the basis of the
schematic that has been submitted by the applicant.
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Chair Lorberbaum asked which of the two, Augusta Shores or the new Lemay Shores, would be closer to the
airport. Mr. Coyle said it would appear to him that the closest would be the Augusta Shores development.
Chair Lorberbaum opened the public hearing.
Mark and Colleen Kahn, 2370 Lemay Lake Road, presented a letter expressing opposition and provided a
petition signed by 33 neighbors to Ms. McDermott. Mr. Kahn said the petition says that the signatures confirm
opposition to the development and read the petition to the Commission. The residents who have signed this
petition feel that there may be some adverse affects on the environment if this development is approved, such as
traffic, wildlife, and pollution of the lake. Chair Lorberbaum explained the process of the submittal of petitions
and all other required letters and material to the Environmental Quality Board.
Mr. Kahn presented a computer generated map (obtained from Goggle Earth) showing Augusta Lake and
Lemay Lake, and pointed out the water quality comparisons to show how Augusta Lake has been polluted, and
said if this development comes in, Lemay Lake will be at risk for the same water quality degradation. Mr. Kahn
said that a lot of the 68 acres includes the lake acreage. Mr. Kahn also expressed concerns about how the
development will fit with the vision of Mendota Heights to maintain open space.
Mr. David Hiner, 1295 Kendon Lane, said he's been a resident since 1981, and has built three homes in this
neighborhood. Mr. Hiner said he does not understand how the noise contour map is prepared, as he does not
believe the planes actually fly these patterns as shown. Mr. Hiner said that if this development comes in, it will
take away the view of the lake from the rest of the residents. Mr. Hiner said that at the south end of the lake,
there is a swamp that feeds the lake which the concept plan shows running a road through. Mr. Hiner said this
is a city dump in which a lot of terrible things are thrown into such as computers and dead deer that the DNR
dumps. Mr. Hiner said this whole valley feeds the lake from rainwater in this area. The road should be run
through the city owned property nearby.
Ellsworth Stein, 1296 Lakeview Avenue, said he is the original founder of the Airport Relation Commission.
Mr. Stein said the City is always talking about open green space, and this development would take out a lot of
green space. The noise is much worse on the southern part that's going to be developed because the runway is
lined up perfectly across this area. This contour map does not effectively show the airplane patterns. There is
also a spring at the south end of the property and the road looks that it may come up along this spring and fears
it may shut off the water supply to the lake. Mr. Stein said as a member of ARC, he does not recall this project
coming before the commission and anything that comes to the Planning Commission should also be reviewed
by the ARC.
Mr. Stein asked who owns the property. Chair Lorberbaum said the property is owned by Resurrection
Cemetery, and is talking about selling it to Hoffman Homes.
Scott and Janet Nordling, 1280 Lakeview Avenue, said they just moved into their home in July, and had no
notification that this project was being proposed. Mr. Nordling said had he and his wife known about this
project, they would not have purchased their home. The Nordlings were also concerned that they received no
notification from the City, but was notified by the neighbor of the public hearing. Ms. McDermott said the
notifications go by the list provided by the County and that she will make sure that the Nordlings are on the list
to be notified by any further happenings.
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Seeing no one else come forward to speak, Chair Lorberbaum asked for a motion to close the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER POVOLNY MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLAN, TO CLOSE
THE PUBLIC HEARING.
5 AYES
0 NAYES
MOTION CARRIED
Mr. Grittman said upon approval of this amendment, any subsequent steps would include a preliminary plat and
a planned unit development with any necessary wetland permits that may be needed as part of the PUD.
Commissioner Lally said he understands that this is a 68 acre parcel, and about 20 acres of that is actually the
lake, which allows 48 acres remaining to place development on 27 acres and leaving the rest of the 21 acres as
open space. Chair Lorberbaum said there is no guarantee that this development as proposed will even take
place and those plans would have to be reviewed by the Planning Commission should the amendment be
approved.
COMMISSIONER DOLAN MOVED, SECONDED BY CHAIR LORBERBAUM, TO RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO REDESIGNATE THE
PROPERTY FROM INSTITUTIONAL TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AS PROPOSED BASED
UPON THE FINDINGS THAT THE USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES
AND CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTIVES OF THE PROPOSED LAND USE PLANAND THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STANDARDS OF THE
AIRCRAFT NOISE CONTINUATION ORDINANCE.
4 AYES
NAYS (Commissioner Lally)
MOTION CARRIED
PLANNING CASE #06 -31
Jon Bergh (O'Shaughnessy /Perlman)
731 Woodridge Drive
Variance and Critical Area Permit
Mr. Grittman shared the map showing the location of 731 Woodridge Drive, in which the applicants are seeking
a variance to accommodate the construction of a porch addition on the rear portion of their property. The
variance is for the bluff line setback of the Critical Area and with that variance, the applicants are also seeking a
Critical Area Permit.
Staff does not recommend the variance because the applicant has not shown a hardship to justify the variance.
It is recommended however, that the Critical Area Permit be issued only if the City approves the variance or the
proposal is modified in a way that the 40 -ft bluff line setback requirement is met.
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Chair Lorberbaum said she believes the Commission has been provided with an old plan, and she will asked for
clarification from the applicant.
Commissioner Lally asked if there have been prior problems with the slope at this address. Mr. Grittman said
he is not aware of any.
Commissioner Lally said the existing patio seems to have a greater impact on the drainage than the footing
necessary for the porch would have. Commissioner Lally asked if this house could be built today with the
ordinances that are now in place. Mr. Grittman said most of the house meets the requirements, and believes it
could.
Commissioner Lally asked Mr. Grittman to describe where any acceptable alternatives for a porch would be
placed.
Jon Bergh, the contractor for the applicant, said the homeowners would like to read their letter of intent. Ms.
Eileen O'Shaughnessy and Mr. Arthur Perlman, 731 Woodridge Drive, read from their letter indicating why
they want to build this porch (which has been included in the packets for Commission review). Ms.
O'Shaughnessy said they recently purchased this property and are in the process of renovating it. They do not
live at the property at this time.
The applicants provided pictures of the property and explained their desire to place their screen porch as
presented. They do not feel that this proposal will cause any negative impact to the neighbors.
Chair Lorberbaum asked for confirmation that there will only be footings placed by the patio, and that the deck
would not create any more impervious surface, and that what the applicant is proposing is actually less of an
intrusion that what currently exists. Ms. O'Shaughnessy said that was correct, and that the proposed porch
would not go out any farther than the existing non - conforming patio.
Commissioner Povolny said he visited the site and this home probably has one of the best views from the back
of the house. This part of the house has no windows, and therefore, the view from inside the home would not
be impacted. The applicant would be able to enjoy this part of the home, as without this porch, they could not
do so.
Ms. O'Shaughnessy said that Plan C is actually an older plan that they used as a basis for creating an illustration
for what they are planning. This plan was from the builder who did the addition to the house in 1995, and was
not the original building plan for the home. Ms. O'Shaughnessy said the area beneath the porch would be open
and only have posts to support the porch.
Commissioner Lally said the views from this home are very nice and would like to see the applicants take
advantage of this.
Chair Lorberbaum opened the public hearing. Seeing no one come forward to speak, Chair Lorberbaum asked
for a motion to close the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER DOLAN MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HESSE, TO CLOSE THE
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PUBLIC HEARING.
5 AYES
0 NAYES
MOTION CARRIED
CHAIR LORBERBAUM MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER POVOLNY, TO
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CRITICAL AREA PERMIT AND VARIANCE AS
SUBMITTED BASED ON THE FINDING THAT THE HARDSHIP EXISTS WHICH RESTRICTS
THE USE OF THE PROPERTY WITHOUT THE VARIANCE, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING
THAT THE DECK ADDITION SETBACK ENCROACHMENT IS LESS THAN THAT OF THE
NEARBY GROUND LEVEL PATIO.
Further Discussion
Chair Lorberbaum said the encroachment piece is a big thing to her as it's really less than what exists now.
Commissioner Hesse said he is having a hard time with the hardship. Chair Lorberbaum said the applicant is
not doing anything additionally invasive to the property, and is a reasonable use of the property. Commissioner
Povolny said it's the same footage away from the bluff area as the deck that is existing. Commissioner Hesse
said all that being true; there is still no explanation of any other reasonable alternative. Chair Lorberbaum
asked if this is a reasonable use. Commissioner Dolan said in this situation, it seems that the reason it can't be
done in another location is the views and that is convenience and lighting, which in his opinion, does not meet
the requirements of hardship. Commissioner Hesse said he has the same concerns that Commission Dolan has
expressed.
Commissioner Lally said in terms of views, this is the only site that does not restrict current interior views.
Commissioner Lally said that a porch constructed on the other side of the home may impact the neighbors more.
3 AYES
2 NAYS (Commissioners Dolan and Hesse)
MOTION CARRIED
PLANNING CASE #06 -32
John and Melanie Morgan
613 Pond View Drive
Variance
Mr. Grittman shared the map showing the location of 613 Pond View Drive, and reviewed the application in
which the applicant is seeking a variance of approximately 8 -ft. from the front yard setback to allow for the
expansion of an existing two -car garage. The applicant is seeking approval to add a third garage to the existing
home, which currently is a side - loaded garage with a circular driveway.
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Staff does not recommend approval of the variance as the request is based on a desire to expand parking and
storage and the property is already being put to reasonable use.
Commissioner Lally asked if there are other homes in the area that have been granted variances for garage
expansions. Mr. Grittman said he does not believe there have been in the last 4 to 5 years.
Commissioner Lally asked if there were any conversations with the applicant suggesting building a shed in the
rear yard to accommodate toys and equipment that may give more room in the garage for vehicles parking. Mr.
Grittman said the applicant would be eligible for a shed. Commissioner Lally said this is a rather large lot and
would accommodate a shed.
Commissioner Povolny said there is a pond in the rear of the home, and so there may be some wetland issues if
a shed was constructed.
Mr. Grittman said the plans do not show any changes that would include additional changes to the driveway to
access a third garage, nor did the applicant provide a drawing of what the garage will look like, and if there
would actually be an additional garage door.
Chair Lorberbaum said she visited the site and found that in working with the string rule, this addition would
extend quite a lot toward the street.
Because the Planners Report indicates that the applicant has three vehicles, Commissioner Hesse asked if the
Property Maintenance Ordinance requires that all vehicles be parked indoors. Mr. Grittman said the ordinance
does not require that.
Mr. John Morgan explained his storage needs and said that he does not wish to put a shed in the rear yard as it's
a personal preference that he does not want to disturb any natural settings or wild life that may be in that area.
Commissioner Lally asked about the tree next to the driveway. Mr. Morgan said he would be removing this
tree and would like to take away a portion of the circular driveway and replace with grass, giving only one
entrance into the driveway. Mr. Morgan said he would widen the driveway to gain access into a third garage
space.
Commissioner Povolny asked if there will a garage door on this addition. Mr. Morgan said that was correct.
Chair Lorberbaum said the tree removal would be a good idea as it's not a healthy tree. Chair Lorberbaum
asked the applicant to identify a hardship. Mr. Morgan said he and his wife are planning on having more
children, and in time, they will need additional garage space to accommodate all the toy, lawn equipment, etc.
and more cars at some time. Mr. Morgan said he would also like to park his work vehicle in the garage during
the winter months.
Chair Lorberbaum opened the public hearing. Seeing no one come forward to speak, Chair Lorberbaum asked
for a motion to close the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER HESSE MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLAN, TO CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING.
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5 AYES
0 NAYES
MOTION CARRIED
COMMISSIONER LALLY MOVED, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE
REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S VOTE IN CASE #06 -22 WHERE A
VARIANCE WAS APPROVED FOR A THIRD CAR GARAGE BASED ON AN 8 -FT SIDE YARD
SETBACK WITH THE HARDSHIP BEING IDENTIFIED AS THERE IS NO OTHER REASONABLE
SPACE FOR A THIRD CAR GARAGE ON THE PROPERTY.
For lack of a second to this motion ... MOTION FAILED.
CHAIR LORBERBAUM MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HESSE, TO RECOMMEND
DENIAL OF THE VARIANCE AS PROPOSED WITH THE FINDING THAT THE FRONT YARD IS
VISIBLE AND VIOLATES THE STRING RULE, AND BASED ON THE LACK OF A HARDSHIP
THAT IS NOT OF THE APPLICANT'S MAKING.
4 AYES
NAYS (Commissioner Lally)
MOTION CARRIED
PLANNING CASE #06 -33
T- Mobile / Steve Carlson
1850 -1860 Eagle Ridge Drive
Conditional Use Permit
Mr. Grittman shared the map showing the location of 1850 and 1860 Eagle Ridge Road, which is a multi - family
project and the applicants are seeking approval of a conditional use permit to allow for the construction of a
cellular antenna structure on top of an existing building. The applicant, T- Mobile, has been before the City in
the last few months looking for other locations in the city primarily for locations with a new tower. Those
applications have not been approved but the ordinance does have an allowance for antennas mounted on
existing structures in residential district. The applicant has provided some photo simulations showing the
design and the look that would be seen of the screen fence that would surround the equipment and would be
located around the parking lot area.
Mr. Grittman said the ordinance has a series of requirements for a conditional use permit for these types of
requests with a maximum height above the roofline of 15 -ft. and other requirements relating to color and a
preference of flush - mounted antennas. In this case, the applicant wishes to use a paint color that will match the
existing building, and Staff feels this would be more desirable than the eggshell that the ordinance standard.
There is no proposed lighting on the structure and it appears that the ground equipment will not interfere with
any of the operations of the site. The applicants have provided new coverage maps for the Commission's
review.
Staff feels this proposal meets all the other requirements and recommends approval.
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Commissioner Dolan said the applicant is requested a roof mounted antenna due to tree interference, and does
not see that there are many trees in this area. Mr. Grittman said this is consistent with other applications in the
city, and believes that flush mounted in this case would not give adequate signals.
Commissioner Dolan asked for an update to the police department's search for coverage. Mr. Grittman said he
does not know what progress has been made and has read where they are pursuing other options.
Commissioner Dolan asked if this antenna would provide space for collocators. Mr. Grittman said he
understands that this probably would not be given the height. Commissioner Dolan asked if there is the
possibility of other providers coming to the City seeking other locations in the city. Mr. Grittman said that
would be likely with technology changes.
Commissioner Dolan said it seems problematic that the City would approve all these smaller locations
throughout the city if there was one location that could serve many providers. Mr. Grittman said that would
include the need for the freestanding towers, which the City Council has not been inclined to approve.
Commissioner Dolan asked if T- Mobile has reached any agreements with the South Ridge Condominium
Association? Mr. Grittman said he does not know.
Chair Lorberbaum expressed her concern with the lack of screening of the equipment fence. Mr. Grittman said
there should be some landscaping done. Chair Lorberbaum asked if the fencing needs to be solid or can there be
a more open fencing design that provides the needed security. Mr. Grittman said if the fencing were more open,
it may not sufficiently screen the equipment which is the purpose of the fence. The current fence would work
well with more landscaping added to soften the effect.
Commissioner Povolny said the flush mounted would look worse than the top mounted, and suggested that the
antenna be placed back to the center of the roof to decrease the visibility. Mr. Grittman said it would be less
visible, but doesn't know how it would affect the service.
Steve Carlson, representative of T- Mobile, reviewed the new coverage maps that indicate the coverage of the
area with the proposed antenna placement. Mr. Carlson said some of the residents of the condominium were in
the audience. Mr. Carlson showed pictures of the tree lines from the rooftop and indicated how the views
would be affected. Mr. Carlson also explained how the antenna would be mounted on top of the elevator shafts,
giving the antenna additional height.
Mr. Carlson said T- Mobile is currently in negotiations with the condominium association.
Commissioner Dolan asked if there will be other providers collocating on this antenna. Mr. Carlson said this
antenna will be strictly for T- Mobile's use, but T- Mobile does not have exclusive use of this roof.
Commissioner Dolan asked about moving the antenna back. Mr. Carlson said that if that were done, the roof
would have to be penetrated and would be more difficult to do.
Chair Lorberbaum said she would like to see more screening. Chair Lorberbaum asked why T- Mobile did not
come up with this site in the first place. Mr. Carlson said this is not a perfect place, and would prefer to be
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further north. Chair Lorberbaum asked if T- Mobile will be coming back to the City requesting more additional
sites? Mr. Carlson said that is possible within the next year.
Mr. Bob Stassen, representing the Board of Directors of the South Ridge Condominium Association, shared
pictures of how the building will look with this antenna by having a resident stand on top of the building at
about the same height of the proposed antenna. Mr. Stassen talked about the Board and that the residents
manage the building without a management company.
Chair Lorberbaum opened the public hearing.
Stewart Styman, 1830 Eagle Ridge Drive, said he learned more things at this meeting that he was not aware of
at the last meeting he attended with T- Mobile. Mr. Styman said there have been a lot of changes since that
meeting that he was not aware of. Mr. Styman said he came to the public hearing prepared to support this
proposal, but now he is not comfortable with it.
Jerry Caufield, Treasurer of the South Ridge Condominium Association, said he was told that Cingular could
put a tower on the building. Mr. Caufield said he would prefer to have the antenna placed back further on the
roof and the pictures that were shared tonight were no where near what he was presented with at the last
meeting of between T- Mobile and the Association.
Mr. Stassen said there have been no changes.
Stan Davis, 1870 Eagle Ridge, resides to the south of the proposed building. Mr. Davis asked if T- Mobile has
contacted anyone at Eagle Point. Mr. Davis wants to see a larger freestanding tower, but not in this residential
neighborhood.
Steve Crovitz, 1850 Eagle Ridge Drive, spoke on his concerns regarding the health and environmental safety
risks and have not heard these issues addressed yet. Mr. Crovitz says this proposal deals with high frequency
and would like to see more discussion regarding these topics.
Seeing no one else come forward to speak, Chair Lorberbaum asked for a motion to close the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER DOLAN MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HESSE, TO CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING.
5 AYES
0 NAYES
MOTION CARRIED
COMMISSIONER HESSE MOVED, SECONDED BY CHAIR LORBERBAUM, TO RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO MOUNT A WIRELESS ANTENNA ON
THE ROOFTOP OF THE SOUTH RIDGE CONDOMINIUM PROPERTY SUBJECT TO THE FINAL
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE ASSOCIATION AND T- MOBILE.
Chair Lorberbaum said if the residents are unhappy, they have as much power to make this not happen as the
City does.
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Chair Lorberbaum added a Friendly Amendment to include screening and landscaping and the fencing
be opaque. Commissioner Hesse accepted the Friendly Amendment to the extent that the landscaping
will not restrict access to the equipment.
5 AYES
0 NAYS
MOTION CARRIED
VERBAL REVIEW— Sue McDermott
PLANNING CASE #06 -26 Jacqueline J. Peterson Conditional Use Permit
• City Council approved as recommended by the Planning Commission.
PLANNING CASE #06 -27 Marco Scibora Conditional Use Permit
0 City Council approved. and Critical Area Permit
Chair Lorberbaum asked Ms. McDermott for a recap of the City Council's decisions regarding this case.
PLANNING CASE #06 -28 Gary Kravitz /Anna Schorer Critical Area Permit
• City Council approved as recommended by the Planning Commission.
Oth er Busin ess
Chair Lorberbaum commented on information regarding resident complaints on airport noise. Residents can
call 612- 726 -9411 or log on the website at www.macausat.org.
COMMISSIONER HESSE MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LALLY, TO ADJOURN THE
MEETING AT 10:45 PM.
5 AYES
0 NAYS
MOTION CARRIED
Respectfully submitted,
Becki Shaffer, Recording Secretary
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