2009-11-24 Planning Comm MinutesPlanning Commission Minutes
November 24, 2009
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
November 24, 2009
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was held on Tuesday, November 24, 2009, in
the Council Chambers at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve at 7:00 P.M.
The following Commissioners were present: Chair Lally, Commissioners Field, McManus, Norton, Povolny, and
Viksnins. Those absent: Commissioner Hennes. Those present were Assistant to the City Administrator Jake
Sedlacek, Acting City Engineer Ryan Ruzek and Planner Steve Mr. Grittman. Minutes were recorded by Carla
Wirth.
Avvroval of October 27. 2009 Minutes
COMMISSIONER FIELD MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER NORTON, TO APPROVE THE
MINUTES OF OCTOBER 27, 2009 AS PRESENTED.
AYES: 5
NAYES: 0
Chair Lally arrived at the meeting at 7:03 p.m..
Hearin-as
Discussion of City Zoning Ordinance
Planner Steve Grittman noted the Commission has received a copy of the Zoning Ordinance draft showing revisions.
He advised that additional illustrations will be inserted to help clarify the understanding of more difficult sections.
Mr. Grittman stated one of the biggest revisions is to combine the PUD sections into a single chapter, noting the rest
of the changes are more clerical in nature.
Chair Lally asked if the Council wanted to reconcile the large number of applications approved or receive general
feedback to the PUD section. Mr. Grittman stated the Council is seeking general feedback, noting when they started
this process, they wanted to assure the Zoning Ordinance was up -to -date and did not conflict with the
Comprehensive Plan.
Chair Lally noted some of the changes were to insert amendments that had already been passed. Mr. Grittman
indicated that was correct, some of the revisions involved a codification of those amendments.
Commissioner McManus inquired about the purpose of the red footnotes. Mr. Grittman explained the software
tracks changes made from the original version. Once finalized, those footnotes will no longer be shown.
Commissioner McManus stated at most meetings the Commission addresses wetlands and wetlands permits, yet the
introduction does not contain such a definition. Mr. Grittman explained wetlands are regulated by a separate chapter
and refer to wetlands that are on the City's wetland map.
Chair Lally asked if most wetland regulations are state law, not municipal law. Mr. Grittman explained that the
City's ordinance creates a 100 -foot buffer zone to address how to treat the wetland from the upland and does not
address State regulations. Chair Lally asked if the development of bluff areas is regulated by Wild and Scenic River
and federal laws. Mr. Grittman stated the Critical Area Ordinance is a combination of federal and state mandates
and was adopted by the City as a local ordinance.
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Commissioner Povolny asked why the accessory structure language is highlighted in yellow. Mr. Grittman
explained it is highlighted in yellow because that language is not yet in final text form. That section will be
rewritten because of internal conflicts between general and R -1 accessory allowances and when completed, an
illustration will be included.
Commissioner Povolny asked if the recreational vehicle language had been changed. Mr. Grittman stated it is the
same with the exception of a small insertion made in Section 3a at the suggestion of a Councilmember.
Commissioner McManus referenced Page 12 -1B -5 that indicates the Comprehensive Plan is prepared and
maintained by the Planning Commission. Mr. Grittman explained the Planning Commission holds the public
hearing and advises the Council on the adoption. The way the Statute reads, the Planning Commission is the body
that is responsible for preparation of the Comprehensive Plan and referring it to the Council.
Chair Lally noted the Comprehensive Plan then goes to the Metropolitan Council for final adoption. Mr. Grittman
stated that is correct.
Commissioner Norton referenced Page 12 -113-6, and asked about the practical difference between the previous
"string rule" and the new clause regarding the district setback and average setback. Mr. Grittman explained the
"string rule" currently works as a visual line between two flanking homes to define the front setback. The problem
with the existing "string rule," because of the wide variation of setbacks, is that it has prohibited homes from
expanding towards the street or side yards, depending on the layout. Mr. Grittman explained the change is to use an
average setback of the adjoining structures instead of the "string rule." He explained this will eliminate the need for
so many setback variances and allow forward expansion. It also changes it to a numerical calculation so measured
numbers can be used instead of scaling the setback along a line of sight.
Commissioner Povolny asked if porch setbacks have been addressed, noting the Planning Commission has
considered many variance requests for front porches. Mr. Grittman stated staff discussed changing the Code to
allow porch extensions into the front setback by conditional use permit (CUP) rather than variance so the finding of
a hardship is not required. With a CUP, the Planning Commission would have review authority but be able to use a
neighborhood standard, not the hardship standard.
Assistant to the City Administrator Jake Sedlacek stated staff has noticed front porches have been a point of
discussion for both the Planning Commission and Council so it would be beneficial for the Planning Commission to
provide clear direction that can be referred to the Council.
Chair Lally stated he cannot recall an instance where such a request was declined when the Planning Commission
could find a hardship. However, there was discussion whether it was a request for an open or enclosed porch
structure and several months ago, a variance was granted based on lot size and other issues. Mr. Grittman stated the
hardship factors tend to be related to weather exposure, lot size, street configuration, and whether the structure was
enclosed. Chair Lally stated a CUP still allows a review process to give guidance to the applicant and information to
neighbors.
Mr. Grittman suggested staff draft proposed language for consideration by the Planning Commission, noting a
public hearing will also be held on the Zoning Ordinance. The Commission agreed.
Commissioner Povolny suggested language be crafted to classify porches and take into consideration whether it will
be enclosed, open with columns, and the square footage. Mr. Grittman stated staff will also provide information on
what has been approved so there is a guide as to scale.
Commissioner Norton stated most variances have been for porches that provide some cover from weather elements
when entering the home. He stated he shares Commissioner Povolny's concern about a porch that is extended to
cover the entire front of the house.
Commissioner Povolny stated in one case, sides were allowed to be enclosed to address weather conditions so,
perhaps, the language should allow a percentage of the porch to be enclosed.
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Chair Lally stated in one case, an enclosed porch was allowed because the house did not contain a front hallway.
Mr. Grittman stated staff will draft language for the Planning Commission's review.
Commissioner Povolny asked if Commissioners can provide language suggestions to staff prior to the next meeting.
Mr. Grittman stated that would be welcomed.
Commissioner Viksnins stated he has not had a chance to study the ordinance so he has no substantive comments.
Commissioner Field noted some of the sections have been taken care of and should be incorporated into the
ordinance so the Commissioners know they have already been addressed. He noted that the land reclamation section
has been deleted and is not picked up in replacement wording but, basically, subjects land reclamation to the Land
Use Management Plan and related regulations. Mr. Grittman stated the Land Use Management Plan is where the
real review for land reclamation will occur.
Commissioner Field referenced Page 12 -1J -8 and asked why text is identified in red. Mr. Grittman stated the
existing ordinance will be inserted.
Mr. Grittman stated it would be helpful if the Planning Commission could identify questions or comments to staff.
He advised that staff will complete the insertions so the Planning Commission can review the entire document prior
to the public hearing being held, possibly in January of 2010.
Commissioner McManus referenced Pages 12- 1D- 16 -17, that identifies trees and landscaping. However, nothing is
mentioned about buckthorn, a weed tree, and dangerous vegetation. Mr. Grittman stated that is not covered
separately but can be included. Commissioner McManus stated that Mendota Heights has a buckthorn problem and
thinks language prohibiting buckthorn should be included.
Commissioner Field thanked staff and Mr. Grittman for their work on this complicated and detailed revision.
Chair Lally concurred and stated his support that the Code is flexible to meet the City's current needs.
Commissioner McManus agreed the Code was good to start with and stated the update will make it even better.
Mr. Sedlacek asked for the Commission's input on Section 12- 1G -7E, Fences for Industrial Districts Abutting
Residential Districts. He explained that in Industrial zones, fences must be 50% opacity or greater and in
Residential zones fences must have 30% opacity.
Chair Lally stated his question is whether a fence that is more of a barrier and less open would be more desirable
between industrial and residential uses.
Mr. Grittman stated a transition between Industrial and Residential Districts still requires screening of inappropriate
uses. He explained that while an industrial area may have a chain link or industrial -style fence adjacent to
residential in the current language, the change would require a more compatible fence if adjacent to a residential
neighborhood, like vinyl or wood. With regard to opacity, it does not "trump" the screening requirement.
Commissioner Norton stated if adjacent to industrial, he would prefer a fence that is more opaque, perhaps to 100%
so the view of the industrial facility is blocked. He stated that the appropriate fence material maybe something like
cedar wood, not concrete block.
Chair Lally noted that it would be allowable for an industrial site to have a chain link fence with evergreen trees to
transition to the residential property. Mr. Grittman stated that is correct. Chair Lally stated his preference would be
to allow additional opacity, as suggested by Commissioner Norton.
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Commissioner Povolny noted the Bituminous Roadway project considered several months ago required fencing,
berms, and trees but did not abut residential.
Commissioner Field asked for a clarification on the residential fencing requirement. Mr. Grittman stated you need
to meet the residential construction requirement, 30% open, of a certain height, and be on the boundary.
Commissioner Povolny asked that the issue of "welded wire" be addressed in the update. Mr. Grittman stated a
material standard is not included in the ordinance.
Planning Commission consensus was reached to include a material standard.
Commissioner McManus stated that big impervious fences can become a serious eyesore so he would be "skittish"
about allowing a 12 -foot high totally solid fence and may rather see greenery or trees as screening.
Commissioner Norton agreed that is preferable but noted the language of the preceding paragraph addresses
landscaping and screening and does not say it has to include trees or shrubs, just that it has to have grass. He stated
he is curious how other cities have addressed this issue. Commissioner Norton agreed that landscaping, trees, and
berms are preferable to any kind of fencing but if the issue is to obscure a view, then a fence may be appropriate.
Mr. Grittman stated staff will draft some suggestions to address those concerns and a buffer section can be inserted
to be more prescriptive of plantings and spacing.
Commissioner Norton noted this language would address subsequent approvals as opposed to changing any existing
spaces with fencing and landscaping. Mr. Grittman concurred and stated staff will also look at the map to identify
how many areas would be involved.
Mr. Sedlacek noted the attendance of newly hired City Administrator David McKnight.
Mr. Sedlacek advised that staff receives about one request per month for chickens and last week got a request for a
horse. Staff has informed requestors that it would require an ordinance change. Mr. Sedlacek stated staff would like
direction about having more clear language.
Mr. Grittman read Page 12 -1B -2 regarding definitions, noting chickens are identified as "fowl' under the "Animals,
Food" section. The Commission discussed the types of animals that would be considered to be a household
domestic pet. Mr. Grittman stated he supports the current language.
Commissioner Norton asked what is the largest lot in Mendota Heights. It was noted there is a 15 -acre lot that used
to have horses and the preschool has a permit to have certain alpacas or llamas. Mr. Grittman stated the question
with chickens relates to "suburban farming" and the current ordinance does not permit chickens.
Commissioner Norton referenced the language indicating: "and others raised for purposes of food consumption."
He suggested adding clarifying language such as "and others that are typically raised for purposes of food
consumption." Mr. Grittman stated that would be a good clarification and staff will make the revision.
Commissioner Field stated it would be nice if Mr. Grittman could provide "point" and "counter point" about the
changes being made. Mr. Grittman stated he will provide such a memorandum.
Commissioner McManus stated the material reviewed tonight can now be abridged and the Commission can move
on to other issues that staff would like addressed. Mr. Grittman agreed and indicated he would prepare a companion
memorandum to cite those specific issues.
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Discussion on Cancellation of December Meeting
Mr. Sedlacek explained the Council has authorized the Planning Commission to cancel the December meeting. He
advised that there are three potential planning cases, two for cellular applications and one for a wetlands permit.
Chair Lally asked if it would be a hardship to consider the planning cases in January. Mr. Sedlacek stated one
applicant may feel it is a hardship.
COMMISSIONER FIELD MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER NORTON, TO CANCEL THE
DECEMBER 22, 2009, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IF APPLICATIONS ARE NOT
RECEIVED BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON NOVEMBER 30, 2009.
AYES 6
NAYS 0
Verbal Review
Mr. Sedlacek gave the following verbal review:
PLANNING CASE #09 -36 Heart to Home, Inc. Conditional Use Permit
• Approved by the City Council as recommended by the Planning Commission.
PLANNING CASE #09 -37 Heart to Home, Inc. Conditional Use Permit
• Approved by the City Council as recommended by the Planning Commission.
PLANNING CASE #09 -38 Stonewall, Inc. Wetland Permit for HR -PUD (High Density
Residential PUD)
• Approved by the City Council as recommended by the Planning Commission.
PLANNING CASE #09 -39 City of Mendota Heights Zoning Ordinance Amendment
• Approved by the City Council as recommended by the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Field requested an update on Mendota Plaza. Mr. Sedlacek stated there was to be a closing on the
construction loan on November 16, 2009, but to the City's knowledge, it has not yet occurred. A park dedication
check was received but the final plat has not been received for signing and recording at the County. Mr. Sedlacek
indicated that no more has been heard about a start date.
COMMISSIONER MCMANUS MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER POVOLNY, TO ADJOURN
THE MEETING AT 7:58 P.M.
AYES
NAYS
Respectfully submitted,
Carla Wirth, Recording Secretary
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