1995-07-06 Council minutesPage No. 4455
July 6, 1995
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, July 6, 1995
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, was held at 7:30 o'clock P.M. at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights, Minnesota.
Acting Mayor Smith called the meeting to order at 7:30 o'clock P.M. The following members were
present: Acting Mayor Smith, Councilmembers Huber, Koch, and Krebsbach. Mayor Mertensotto had
notified Council that he would be absent.
AGENDA ADOPTION Councilmember Koch moved adoption of the revised agenda for the
meeting.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of the minutes of the
regular meeting with correction.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
CONSENT CALENDAR Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of the consent calendar
for the meeting along with authorization for execution of any
necessary documents contained therein.
a. Acknowledgmenf of the minutes of the June 14, 1995 Airport
Relations Commission meeting.
b. Acknowledgment of the minutes of the June 27, 1995
Planning Commission meeting.
c. Approval to issue a building permit for exterior remodeling for
Farmer's Insurance, 800 South Plaza Drive.
d. Adoption of Resolution No. 95 -27, "RESOLUTION
APPROVING FINAL PLAT FOR SWANSON'S 2ND
ADDITION," and Resolution No. 95 -28, "RESOLUTION
APPROVING FINAL PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS
AND AUTHORIZING ADVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS FOR
SANITARY SEWERS, WATERMAINS, STORM SEWERS
AND STREET IMPROVEMENTS TO SERVE
SWANSON' S 2ND ADDITION (IMPROVEMENT NO. 95,
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July 6, 1995
PROJECT NO. 2," and approval of a tree removal permit to
authorize the developer to remove the trees located within the
grading limits.
e. Approval of the issuance of a cigarette license to Mendota
Liquor.
f. Approval of the list of contractor licenses dated July 6, 1995
and attached hereto.
g. Approval of the list of claims dated July 6, 1995 and totaling
$381,455.86.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
VISITATION CONVENT Council acknowledged a memo from Assistant Batchelder
FOUNDATION PERMIT regarding a request from Visitation Convent for a permit to install
footings and foundation for a proposed screen house to be located on
the Monastery portion of the Visitation property. Council also
acknowledged a letter from the Visitation Sisters and a floor plan
and site plan for the proposed structure.
Sister Helen Ann Wilkie, representing the Convent, stated that the
sisters are seeking approval of a footing and foundation permit for a
screen house, -which requires a conditional use permit, and fully
intends to work with$the' Planning Commission. She explained that
the screen house is a donation as a memorial and the family of the
donor will be in St. Paul in August. She stated that the Convent
would like to honor them by holding a dedication ceremony when
the family is in town but must begin footing and foundation
construction before Planning Commission action in order to
complete the structure on time. She explained that construction of
the actual structure will riot occur until after Planning Commission
and City Council approval of the conditional use permit. Sister
Wilkie informed Council that there are 23 members in the Visitation
community and in order to create a screen porch large enough to
house that number of sisters the structure must be larger than the 144
square feet allowed in the city's ordinance. She stated that the
structure will be shielded by trees and will not have any visual
impact.
Councilmember Huber pointed out that the structure would not even
be observed by someone driving by and he would have no objections
to it.
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July 6, 1995
Councilmember Koch moved to approve the issuance of a footing
and foundation permit, at the applicant's risk, pending an application
for conditional use permit for accessory structure.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 95 -08, KING Council acknowledged a memo from Assistant Batchelder regarding
a request from Mr. Lawrence King, 5 Beebe Avenue, for an
amendment to the conditional use permit and variances for a
detached garaged issued by Council on June 6, 1995.
Mr. Wally Pischke, contractor for the garage, was present to
represent the Kings. He explained that the original proposal was to
construct a new garage on the existing garage foundation but after
inspecting the foundation it was discovered that the foundation has
no frost footings and is not adequate for the new structure. He
informed Council that the Kings are requesting approval to remove
the existing garage and foundation and build a new structure.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that the garage will be approximately 15
} feet, 7 inches from the right -of -way. She noted that the property is a
through lot that backs onto another street, which is the reason why a
conditional use permit is needed. Acting Mayor Smith stated that
the existing structure is eight feet from the side lot line, which would
require a two foot variance, asked if the height variance is still
required.
Mr. Pischke responded that the height will be three feet less than the
height approved on June. 6, and neither a height variance nor a size
variance will be needed.:
Administrator Lawell informed Council that if it wishes, it can
revoke the unnecessary variances which were granted on June 6 and
start fresh this evening.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that in essence Council would be
approving a new detached garage. She asked what will change,
noting that there is a,problem with the footings and therefore the
structure will change from what was originally proposed.
Mr. Pischke stated that the garage as approved in June was barely
big enough for two cars, and as long as Mr. King has to build a new
garage because of the footings, he would like to build larger and can
also move it on the lot.
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July 6, 1995
Responding to a question from Councilmember Krebsbach on
whether Council should be concerned about approving a new
detached garage, Administrator Lawell stated that the fact that there
is an existing structure that cannot be changed. He explained that
under the existing building code the city cannot allow the Kings to
expand the garage and they wish to replace it with something more
compatible with their desires.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she understands the
complications of the first proposal and asked if the applicants are
still planning to use the loft area for storage. She also asked if
Council would be significantly departing from the ordinance
because this would be a new detached garage.
Assistant Batchelder responded that if this was a garage being
proposed on a vacant piece of land a conditional use permit would
be required and the most current proposal before Council would fit
within the guidelines of the ordinance relating to detached garages.
He explained that it fits within the size allowed by ordinance and the
conditional permit would be required by virtue of the fact that it is a
detached garage on a through lot. He stated that this is why it was
processed through the Planning Commission as a conditional use
permit and until it was inspected by the city's code enforcement
office the owners did not know that the structure could not be built
on the existing foundation.
Responding to a question from Acting Mayor Smith, Mr. Pischke
stated that the Kingsihave already constructed the circular drive in
the front of the home. He also stated that all exposed areas of the
structure will be cedar siding to match the house, and the roof pitch
of 10:12 will blend in with the 9:12 pitch on the house.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that she feels the proposal is a much
better solution and provides for safer entrance and exit from the
garage. She pointed out,that the same stipulations attached to the
original approval will apply, including that the loft can only be used
for storage.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved adoption of Resolution No. 95-
30, "A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO 95 -24 TO
APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR DETACHED
GARAGE AT 5 BEEBE AVENUE."
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes:4
Nays: 0
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CASE NO. 95 -12, Council acknowledged an application from Mr. Ed Paster, Mendota
PASTER Mall Associates, for a conditional use permit for a liquor store in the
Mendota Plaza shopping center. Council also acknowledged
associated staff reports. Mr. Paster and Mr. Robert Rickes, from
Mendota Mall Associates, and Mr. Patrick Soeun, owner of
Mendota Liquor, were present for the discussion.
Mr. Paster explained that a conditional use permit is required to
operate a liquor store in the B -4 District and that the permit issued to
MGM Liquors expired since no one has occupied the store facility
for over six months. He informed Council that Mr. Soeun and Mr.
Rickes have met with Dakota Alliance for Prevention
representatives and Police Chief Delmont and Officer Bridger.
Mr. Soeun informed Council that he met with DAP representatives
yesterday and that he will cooperate with all laws regarding minors
and will report to the Police Department any minors who come into
the store for liquor.
Mr. Rickes stated that at the meeting all laws regarding sale of liquor
to minors were reviewed and that Mr. Soeun has agreed to uphold all
of the laws of the state and the city. He explained that cigarette sales
were also discussed at the meeting.
Councilmember Krebsbach was concerned over sales of cigarettes to
minors and whether minors are allowed in liquor stores.
Administrator Lawell responded that he does not believe there is any
legal restriction to prohibit minors from entering the establishment,
but the problem is if they represent themselves as 21 in order to
purchase liquor. He stated that most liquor stores have signs posted
that say that if individuals are not 21 years of age they cannot enter
the facility. He also stated that he does not believe there is a law
that would prevent someone 18 years or older to buy cigarettes in
the facility.
Mr. Soeun stated that it will be his practice that if someone appears
to him to be under 21 he will ask for identification and ask them to
leave the store if they are not of legal age.
Councilmember Krebabach stated that she would encourage Mr.
Soeun to discourage the sale of cigarettes to 18 to 21 year olds.
Acting Mayor Smith agreed, stating that it would make it much
easier to operate his business if he kept sales of cigarettes as well as
liquor to age 21 and over.
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July 6, 1995
Mr. Paster stated that Mendota Mall Associates shares Council's
concerns and wants the shopping center to be a family oriented and
full service center and discourages any activity that would be
harmful to the city. He further stated that his representatives will be
watching the operation carefully to make sure it is following the
high standards of both the city and the shopping center.
Responding to a question about hours of operation, Mr. Soeun
stated that the hours of operation of the store will be in accordance
with the city ordinances, that he will probably open at 8:30 or 9:00
a.m. and close at 9 p.m. on weekdays and 10:00 p.m. on Friday and
Saturday.
Councilmember Huber asked what advertising will be done at the
store. Mr. Soeun responded that there will be a sign in the sign
band, and that at least the bottom six feet of the window area will be
kept free of advertising to accommodate the police department's
need to see inside the store.
Council informed Mr. Soeun that the city does not allow large
advertising pieces, like the helium devices often seen advertising
liquor stores.
Councilmember Koch asked if Council can legally encourage Mr.
Soeun to discourage sales of cigarettes to anyone under age 21 and
whether he can be legally held to that restriction.
City Attorney Hart responded that the age discrimination generally
protected class is age forty and over, and he did not think there
would be any violation by encouraging Mr. Soeun to sell cigarettes
only to those aged 21 and over. He informed Council that it is not a
crime for someone under 21 to enter a liquor store, as there are many
items in the store that could legally be sold to a person of any age,
but stated that there is no legal problem that he can see in restricting
sales to individuals 21 and over.
Councilmember Huber moved adoption of Resolution No. 95 -29, "A
RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
FOR MENDOTA LIQUOR."
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
LIQUOR LICENSE, MENDOTA Council acknowledged a,memo from the City Clerk regarding the
LIQUOR Mendota Liquor application for off -sale liquor license.
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July 6, 1995
Councilmember Huber moved to authorize the issuance of an off -
sale intoxicating liquor license to Mr. Patrick Soeun for the Mendota
Liquor facility.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
HEARING - EMERSON Acting Mayor Smith opened the meeting for the purpose of a public
STREET VACATION hearing on an application from Mr. Terrance Fenelon, 670 Laura
Court, for the vacation of a portion of the Emerson Avenue right -of-
way adjacent to his lot. Council acknowledged a memo from Public
Works Director Danielson and a proposed resolution.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that Mr. Fenelon desires to construct an
addition to the rear of his home, and the vacation of a portion of the
right -of -way will preclude the need for a variance for the addition.
Mr. Fenelon stated that his lot is long and thin and that he would like
to construct an addition but in order to do so he would be too close
to the lot line. He explained that when he discussed the matter with
the City Planner it appeared that it would be best to request the
vacation so that a variance is not necessary.
Acting Mayor Smith asked if staff sees any reason to believe that at
any future time Emerson Avenue will be used as a through way.
She stated that she does not recall Council vacating portions of
rights -of -way and askedif the entire right -of -way should be vacated.
Public Works Director Danielson responded that he does not
envision that portion of Emerson ever being constructed, as it is very
rugged terrain with wetlands. He stated that the right -of -way is
generally being used as back yard area by abutting property owners.
He explained that since there are wetlands in the right -of -way the
city would have to retain. easements. He recommended that Council
consider vacating the remaining right -of -way as abutting property
owners apply for vacation. He explained that if the vacation is
approved for Mr. Fenelon, the city will retain drainage and utility
easement rights over the land and will no longer be fee owner of the
property.
Councilmember Huber asked if the vacated area would become a
part of the Fenelon lot. Public Works Director Danielson responded
that it would. He explained that Mr. Fenelon currently has a through
lot, because of the right -of -way, and would need a setback variance
to construct the addition if the vacation is not approved. He
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July 6, 1995
informed Council that it is his preference that Council consider
vacations on a case by case basis, particularly to the south of the
Fenelon property where there is a holding pond that was constructed
for drainage purposes.
Mr. Fenelon agreed that vacations of the right -of -way should be
looked at on a case by case basis as there are some potential
drainage problems and many lots would be too close to streams and
would require DNR permits.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that the request seems simple, but
approving it would affect the public street.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that by approving the vacation Council
would be effectively saying that a street will never be built between
Laura Street and Sylvandale Road.
Acting Mayor Smith asked for questions and comments from the
audience.
There being no questions or comments, Councilmember Huber
moved that the hearing be closed.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Responding to a Council questions, Mr. Danielson stated that
currently the city owns the property and it is a platted street
Approval would vacate the street rights but by requiring easement
dedication, the city still has the right to use the area for drainage and
utility improvements.
Acting Mayor- Smith. asked if there would be any restrictions on
plantings and alterations within the easement area. She also asked if
there are any drainage issues involved in the area Mr. Fenelon would
like vacated.
Mr. Danielson responded that nearly all platted lots in the city have
drainage and utility easements over the rear yard and people do
construct fences and plantings within the easement area but do so
with the knowledge that.the city has the right to do work within the
easement, including moving structures. He stated that there is a low
area in the right -of -way and a drainage pond in the Fenelon back
yard: drainage goes west from the Fenelon lot and goes down the
back yards across Sylvandale to the creek.
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July 6, 1995
Councilmember Krebsbach moved adoption of Resolution No. 95-
30,ARESOLUTION APPROVING VACATION OF A PORTION
OF EMERSON AVENUE STREET RIGHT -OF- WAY," approving
the vacation of the north half of Emerson Avenue abutting Lot 10,
Block 3, Ivy Falls 2nd Addition, reserving a permanent drainage and
utility easement over the vacated area.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
It was noted that it is the intent of the city that the 30 foot wide
vacated right -of -way revert to the Fenelons, that the property be
attached to the Fenelon lot and their property will be the beneficiary
of the vacation.
City Attorney advised staff to be certain to record certified copies of
the vacation resolution and reservation of the easements so that the
city easement reservation is communicated to future prospective
purchasers.
CASE NO. 95 -09, PALMER Council acknowledged an application from Mrs. LuDelia Palmer for
approval of a wetlands permit to allow construction of a fence on her
lot at 675 Ivy Falls Court. Council also acknowledged associated
staff reports along with letters from Mr. & Mrs. Palmer and from the
Ivy Falls Home Owners' Association and signatures of consent from
adjoining property owners.
Mrs. Palmer informed Council that she has puppies that need to be
restricted and proposes to install a three rail split rail cedar fence
with wire backing. She stated that the Planning Commission
recommended approval with the condition that the construction be
completed by September 1 and that a survey be completed and filed
with the city. She informed Council that she has arranged for the
survey to be done on July 12 and that she will file a copy with the
city. Responding to a question regarding the wire, she stated that it
will be galvanized mesh. She informed Council that she plans to
landscape along the fence and that she believes the split rail will
blend into the background and the galvanized mesh will not be
visible. She stated that none of the existing landscaping will be
removed and plantings will be added. She explained that her home
is at the crest of the hill with Ivy Falls Creek below and that there
are some erosion problems.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that it is her understanding that the fence
will follow the crest of the property and will not go down the hill.
Mrs. Palmer responded that this is correct.
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Councilmember Krebsbach stated that the main Planning
Commission concern was that the Palmers have the consent of their
neighbors.
Mrs. Palmer responded that she has received the written consent of
everyone but the owners of 667 Ivy Falls Court who has recently
purchased the home but has not yet moved in. She informed
Council that she has spoken to the new owner by phone and they
have no objections.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that the Planning Commission waived
the public hearing requirement, which is why they required
consenting signatures.
Councilmember Koch moved approval of a wetlands permit to allow
construction of a fence, as proposed, to within fifty feet of Ivy Falls
Creek, conditioned upon preparation and submission of a survey,
completion of the fence by September 1, 1995.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 95 -10, PAR 3 Council acknowledged an application from Mr. Michael Cashill for
a sign size and setback variance for a 48 square foot sign for the golf
course to be placed within 3 feet of the property line along Dodd
Road. Council also acknowledged associated staff reports. Mr.
Cashill and Mr. Alan Spaulding were present for the discussion.
Mr. Spaulding stated that the Planning Commission unanimously
recommended approval with the condition that the poles from the
former sign at the northeast corner of the property be removed. He
informed Council that the sign has been removed and he has agreed
to remove the poles and will landscape below the new sign.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that the Planning Commission made
generally favorable comments and agreed that it is an improvement
to have only one sign for the facility. She further stated that it was
pointed out by the commission that the sign size restrictions are
generally for single family homes in R -1 and in this case there is a
commercial use in the district which presents a slightly different
situation. She _pointed out that the Planning Commission felt that
the size and design and colors of the sign were appropriate for the
area. She expressed concern over the setback, stating that right now
the road is 33 feet wide and the right -of -way is 60 feet, so there is
quite a distance between the edge of the road and the sign, but the
city cannot control what the state may do in the future. She asked
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what Council can do-,to accommodate the sign in its requested
location without having to grant a variance. She felt that a variance
would not be appropriate given the potential for widening Dodd.
Mr. Cashill responded that the type of sign construction would allow
him to move the sign very easily - the original sign was only one
foot narrower and was in its location over thirty years. He stated
that he would be happy to move the sign if Dodd is ever widened.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of a 36 foot sign size
variance and 7 foot sign setback variance to allow the proposed sign,
in accordance with the site plan in Case File No. 95 -10, with the
condition that 25 square foot of landscaping be installed around the
sign and that the two poles from the former sign at the northeast
corner of the property be removed, with the stipulation that the sign
be located no nearer than 17 feet from the edge of the paved surface
of Dodd Road and no nearer than three feet from the right -of -way.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 95 -11, Council acknowledged an application from Mr. & Mrs. Thomas
McNAMARA McNamara, 2371 Swan Drive, for a conditional use permit for a 16
foot by 24 foot accessory structure and front yard setback variance.
Council also acknowledged reports from the City Planner and
Administrative Assistant and a letter from the McNamaras.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that she understands the shed will be in
the location of an existing shed and behind some large pine trees and
would be very difficult to see from Lake Drive. She noted that the
Planning Commission had expressed concerns over the design of the
shed.
Mr. McNamara presented revised drawings for the structure,
informing Council that the garage style door on the front of the
structure will be facing east, towards the house.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that there was much discussion
over, the garage door, and the revised plan still shows a garage door.
She further stated that she believes it was the understanding of the
Planning Commission in recommending approval that the door
would be changed so that the structure would not look so much like
a garage.
Mrs. McNamara responded that they want the overhead door for
several reasons, stating that other doors have to be opened out and
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they need an overhead door to get their lawn tractor and plow in and
out. She stated that they feel the overhead door would be better for
security. She further stated that if the overhead door is eliminated,
the structure would lose some of its utility.
Assistant Batchelder stated that the Commission did discuss the door
but did not specifically require barn-type doors as a condition. He
stated that the condition was that the architectural design of the shed
must match the existing home, so that it would look more like a shed
than a garage, and that the Commission discussed matching the roof
pitch and the larger overhang on the house.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that Council has been fastidious about
only allowing the number of garages allowed by ordinance and
when someone has an attached garage, for example, and needs
another larger garage or structure Council has been specific that the
existing garage no longer be used for garage purposes. She stated
that in this case the structure will not be a garage but will have the
utility of a garage.
Mrs. McNamara responded that there will not be a driveway to the
structure and that she does not think any future owner would want to
( ) put a driveway in. Further, she stated that the structure faces the
house and not the street. With respect to how the structure would be
used in the future, she stated that she did not feel anyone would use
it as a garage as trees and a utility pole would have to be removed
and a curb cut would have to be made in Lake Drive for a driveway.
Mr. McNamara stated that he does not think the city would allow
another curb cut and informed Council that he has no plan to put in a
driveway of any kind to the storage shed. He stated that while there
would be an overhead garage door there is no intent to make the
shed into any kind of a building to store vehicles except the lawn
tractor. He explained that there are many evergreens along Lake
Drive which he would not remove, and the structure could not be
seen from Lake Drive.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if there is any way to make the
shed look less like a garage, noting that the shed will probably
remain after the McNamaras sell their property.
Mrs. McNamara responded that some of the things the Planning
Commission recommended have been implemented - the overhang
and roof pitch have been modified to match the appearance of the
house. She stated that if someone every wanted to make the shed
into a garage they could very easily put in a garage door in the future
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but she did not think anyone would ever want to use it as a garage.
She stated that it would be very unattractive to put pavement to the
structure and also there is a butternut tree in front of the door which
would have to be removed in order to get a car into the structure.
Responding to a Council question, Mr. McNamara stated that two
windows were added in response to the Planning Commission
request and to make the structure more closely match the house.
Attorney Hart stated that the concerns are a matter of notice to the
successors of the McNamaras. He did not think Council should rely
on the good sense of future owners and suggested that since the
application is for a conditional use permit, a condition could be that
the structure cannot be used for autos and trucks and other
certificated vehicles. He pointed out that the conditional permit
would be recorded against the property and would place those
limitations on subsequent owners. He stated that since it would be
on record that the structure could not be used for those kinds of
things, they would be prohibited and if anyone were to use the shed
for such storage, enforcement would be the issue.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that she is also concerned about the
proposed size of the shed. She asked about the lot size.
Mr. McNamara responded that the lot is 1 1/8 to 1 1/4 acres in land.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that it was her impression that even with
a conditional use permit a structure of the proposed size would not
be allowed on a lot of this size, but apparently this is not the case.
Mrs. McNamara responded that they wanted a larger building but
scaled it back after a preliminary meeting with city staff, and any
reduction in size of the proposed shed would not meet their needs.
She explained that their goal is to not have a yard full of things, and
since their house is brick they could not add a third stall to their
garage for storage of items now kept outside.
Assistant Batchelder distributed copies of the sections of the Zoning
Ordinance relating to accessory structures. He stated that there is no
limit other than 1,000 square feet in maximum size for conditional
use permits for structures other than private detached garages. He
further stated that accessory structures as permitted uses in the R -1
district can be 144 square feet.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that she never though it was Council's
intent when the ordinance language was revised to allow a potential
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accessory structure of up to 1,000 square feet. She stated that
Council will have to revisit the accessory structure provisions, but
for now the provisions apply.
Mrs. McNamara asked whether they could build a three car garage if
they decided to turn their existing garage into a family room. She
stated that they have been struggling for eight years to find the best
solution to their storage problems.
Administrator Lawell responded that a detached garage is a
permitted use so long as there is no attached garage. Assistant
Batchelder added that the city would probably require that the
driveway and doors be removed from the existing garage.
Mr. McNamara suggested that if Council looks at revising the
ordinance that percentage of lot size is used - for instance allowing a
structure of 1 % of lot size for lots less than an acre. He explained
that he has two pretty bad looking sheds on their lot now and their
intent is to improve the appearance of their lot for their neighbors
and the community be removing those sheds and building the new
one.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that she would agree that what the
McNamaras are doing is appropriate for their lot because it would
not affect any of their neighbors and would be well screened from
the street as well, but Council must make sure it is being consistent.
Responding to a question from Councilmernber Koch, Mr.
McNamara stated that he proposes to put in a two to three foot apron
in front of the large door. and perhaps some stepping stones in front
of the small one and the structure will be built on a concrete floating
slab.
Councilinember Krebsbach moved adoption of Resolution No. 95-
32, "A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND SETBACK
VARIANCE FOR 2371 SWAN DRIVE," in accordance with the
plans submitted Julyfi, 1995, with the following additional
conditions: that the shed will be used only for storage of objects
which would normally be stored in sheds; that the shed may not be
used to store passenger vehicles or trucks; that a certified copy of the
resolution be filed with Dakota County against the property,
incorporating into the resolution the legal description of the parcel.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
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July 6, 1995
Councilmember Krebsbach pointed out that it is also the intent of
the motion that there may not be any access to the shed from Lake
Drive.
CASE NO. 95 -05, Council acknowledged an application from Tharaldson Enterprises
THARALDSON for a conditional use permit to operate a restaurant in the Heritage
Inn. Council also acknowledged a reports from Assistant Batchelder
and the City Planner, along with letters from Heritage Inn regarding
parking, a letter from Northwest Airlines and information from the
restaurant operator, Bon Appetit regarding the menu and hours of
operation.
Mr. Bill Ripeth, legal representative for Tharaldson, reviewed
parking needs. He explained that the restaurant is part of a private
hotel that is under contract with Northwest Airlines, which uses the
hotel to lodge trainees, and stated that probably 50% of the
occupants are bussed to the site. He stated that the proof of parking
plan for the hotel provides for 127 parking spaces and there are
currently 73 parking spaces on site. Reviewing a parking survey
completed by the hotel, he stated that at the peak period, 43 parking
spaces are used. He felt that this statistic is representative of the
hotel's parking needs since it is a private hotel. He stated that since
many people will be bussed to the restaurant from the Northwest
training facilities, Tharaldson feels that only 21 spaces will be
needed for parking for the public restaurant. He explained that
although the restaurant will be open to the public, it will not be
advertised. He explained that part of the desire to not expand the
parking is to keep the existing landscaped area as a campus area. He
felt that parking is the main issue in considering the conditional use
permit. He stated that the Planning Commission's condition number
4 would require Tharaldson to enter into an agreement with the
Marriott for overflow parking, but as a practical matter overflow
parking will occur because people from the Marriott facility will be
using the Heritage Cafe. He stated that it is difficult for Tharaldson
as a legal matter to condition parking on an agreement with Marriott
and that it is not likely the Marriott would give Tharaldson a
conditional right. He stated that he could not recommend the
condition to Tharaldson because it would be a condition that is off
site. He felt that Tharaldson has demonstrated the low demand for
parking at the Heritage Inn site (through the parking survey), and
pointed out that Council can at any time order the Heritage Inn to
provide the additional under the proof of parking plan. He informed
Council that at the time the hotel use changes to a public hotel, the
restaurant will have to be removed to provide a swimming pool
under Tharaldson's original conditional use permit.
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Acting Mayor Smith asked how Northwest Airlines feels about the
restaurant since the facility is under contract to Northwest.
Mr. Ripeth responded that Northwest has requested the change, and
often works with the Marriott as well. He explained that the
restaurant would benefit all of the Northwest employees that stay at
the Marriott or at the Heritage Inn, particularly given the closing of
the Courtyard's restaurant. He stated that opening the restaurant to
the public will insure that it will be a profitable enterprise over the
ten year life of the Northwest contract.
Acting Mayor Smith pointed out that the original Tharaldson plan
did not include a kitchen and when the amended plan came before
Council to include the kitchen, Council was told that Northwest
would operate the kitchen, contracting for food service.
Mr. Ripeth responded that the restaurant is owned by the Heritage
Inn, which has contracted with Bon Appetit, a restaurant
management company, which will provide the full service
management.
Administrator Lawell informed Council that Mr. Bill Fitzgerald,
from Northwest Airlines, faxed two letters to the city this afternoon.
One of the letters talks about opening the restaurant to the public for
lunch service. The other letter discusses approval from Northwest's
vice - president of operations C Foushee's approval of the serving of
beer and wine in the hotel restaurant facility during the time the
restaurant is open to the public.
Mr. Ripeth responded that currently about 20 people are bussed in
the evening off site because they would like beer or wine with
dinner. He stated that the Heritage Inn will not have a bar setting
and would only serve beer and wine with food service.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that Tharaldson has researched who the
anticipated guests will be and asked if it anticipates that they will be
guests of the Marriott and Heritage Inn hotels.
Mr. Ripeth responded that the Heritage Inn people would like to
market to the corporate people in the business park, through
distribution of handbills, to round out some of the slow periods.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that she wants to make sure that it is the
intent not to extend the use of the public restaurant should the
building become public. She stated that if that possibility is even
remotely possible, Tharaldson would want to consider acquiring
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additional land additional parking for the facility while land is
available. With respect to the recommended Marriott/Heritage Inn
agreement, she stated that she agrees with Mr. Ripeth's position on
overflow from the Marriott. She stated that the Marriott has its own
requirement for parking and the city cannot require them to give up
some of their spaces.. She informed Mr. Ripeth that she wants to be
sure that the Heritage Inn project has sufficient parking.
Mr. Ripeth responded that there are 54 more parking spaces
available in the proof of parking plan before Tharaldson would have
to go off site for parking.
Mr. Ken Scheel, from Tharaldson, stated that Tharaldson has 170
hotels and only adds restaurants if needed by a client. He stated that
swimming pools are much better draws, and that he cannot foresee
Tharaldson ever keeping the restaurant versus a swimming pool in
the Heritage Inn if it ever becomes public.
Councilmember Krebsbach informed Mr. Ripeth that if the
condition on agreement with Marriott for parking is deleted from the
permit conditions. Tharaldson would have to build out the proof of
parking should parking needs exceed what is available.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that Council could perhaps have a period
of time where the city can see how much parking is being used and
could then require the construction of additional if it is deemed
appropriate.
Mr. Ripeth stated that Mr. Scheel has agreed to implement the proof
of parking plan if, after a six month period the extra parking is
needed.
Administrator Lawell stated that at any time the city could require
Tharaldson, and Tharaldson would be obligated, to build out the
additional parking. He stated that the city could define the
mechanism for that, including annual review.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that the discussion two years ago
was that there would never be a restaurant and then Tharaldson
asked for a kitchen and now it is asking for a restaurant. She stated
that she cannot envision a company not going into this business with
the intent of not making it successful, and if the company has done
its studies one would think parking should be built.
Mr. Ripeth responded that all of the modifications over the past two
years have been driven by the unique contract with Northwest,
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which has chosen to contract with Tharaldson and others to provide
exclusive service and has asked for changes over time. He stated
that if Tharaldson thought it had a parking issue it would rather have
the spaces in to satisfy its customers. He informed Council that
Tharaldson is prepared to put in all 127 parking spaces, but for
aesthetic purposes would like to keep the green space in the interim.
Responding to a Council comment about Northwest subsidizing the
restaurant, Mr. Ripeth stated that part of the contract would be that
Northwest must provide a minimum amount of revenue to keep the
restaurant in operation. He informed Council that every request
Tharaldson has made to the city has first come from Northwest,
which also initiated the beer and wine sale proposal.
Councilmember Huber stated that he feels this is a situation where if
Council knew in the beginning what it now knows, the original
conditional use might not have been approved.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she feels that if Tharaldson
can meet the parking and feels that it has the need for the restaurant
she has less of a problem with a proposal than if Tharaldson had
requested the restaurant in the beginning.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that since it is within the city's
prerogative to require additional parking if it becomes apparent that
additional parking is need, that is the comfort the city needs. She
did not think Council wants more asphalt than is necessary.
Councilmember Koch asked if Councilmember Huber feels that 123
parking spaces would not be sufficient.
Councilmember Huber responded that if Council had viewed the
proposal in total when Tharaldson first came to Council he is not
sure that it would have been approved. He wondered whether
Council would have said it wanted the full number of parking spaces
constructed, but stated that the fact of the matter is that this is a
situation where Council has allowed the developer to come in with
unfinished parking. He asked whether Council would have to ask
staff to do a site visit nightly to see if there is overflow parking.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that the checks would certainly have to
be made periodically..
Councilmember Huber stated that he is not saying that food service
in a hotel is an inappropriate use, but what is unique that what is a
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single client hotel will now have the entire business park as its
clients.
Mr. Ripeth responded that more than 50% of the clients use ground
transportation that is provided by Northwest, so that drives down the
parking need to 50 %. He stated that if the hotel ever becomes public
the restaurant will have to be changed to a pool, and 127 parking
spaces would satisfy the parking requirement for the facility.
Councilmember Huber stated that his concern is that Tharaldson
keeps coming back every six months asking for more. He asked
what Tharaldson is really trying to build.
Mr. Scheel responded that the project is driven by Northwest and
when the matter was presented to the Planning Commission it
recommended approval on a month to month basis with city staff.
He stated that Tharaldson has agreed to do a daily study and if at any
time city staff feels more parking is needed, it will be built.
Councilmember Krebsbach pointed out that Dale Glowa has stated
that there is a need for a restaurant in the business park. She thought
that the restaurant will provide a service to the park and many of the
people will walk to it.
Responding to a question from Acting Mayor Smith regarding the
restaurant menu, Mr. David Toay, from Bon Appetit, stated that one
of the reasons the kitchen was built was because Northwest wants
food service all day long (breakfast, lunch, dinner) where food is
prepared on the premises. He stated that the menu changes quite a
bit to give different offerings, but there will be sandwiches, salads
and pastas etc. for lunch, and fish and other items for dinner. He
stated that the food will be made to order on -site.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that her concerns were: 1.) where
Northwest stood on the restaurant and liquor; 2.) the ability of the
site to accommodate the additional use and a continued use should
the hotel become public. She stated that apparently Northwest
initiated the request for the restaurant and that Council has also been
informed that the restaurant will not continue if the hotel goes public
and added parking under the proof of parking plan will not be
needed. She noted that Councilmember Huber's concern was over
the incremental approach taken by Tharaldson, and stated that
perhaps Northwest wanted to see the scope of the facility expanded.
She stated that she has also heard that it was a good idea to have a
restaurant in the area and while this may not be the ideal location, it
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would provide a welcome addition to the business park as well as to
the Marriott.
Attorney Hart stated that he would like the record to reflect that 1)
proof of parking can be implemented based on the determination of
city staff that there is insufficient parking on site to serve the
facility; and 2) that the applicant will in a timely fashion, and with
reasonably diligence, construct additional parking if from time to
time it is determined necessary by the city.
Mr. Ripeth agreed that Tharaldson would agree to constructing
additional parking if determined necessary by the city. He stated
that the request is for. a public facility which will include wine and
strong beer and that Tharaldson will go through the liquor license
application process.
Councilmember Krebsbach pointed out that the applicant must
understand that there is no assurance that a liquor license will be
granted.
Councilmember Koch moved adoption of Resolution No. 95 -33, "A
RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
FOR A RESTAURANT FOR HERITAGE INN," revised to add a
condition that city staff monitor parking at the facilities and to add
the conditions recommended by Attorney Hart, and to delete the
requirement for written agreement on overflow parking between the
Marriott and the Heritage Inn.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 3
Nays: 1 Huber
SUNFISH LAKE GRAVITY Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
OUTLET Danielson regarding a request from the City of Sunfish Lake to
consider providing a lake outlot for Sunfish Lake. Mr. Danielson
reviewed the request for Council, stating that a proposed joint
powers agreement is;currently being developed and that he brought
the matter to Council this evening to ask for Council input.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that Council would have to first be
concerned with Mendota Heights capacity for its own run off and
ensure that the Mendota Heights system can handle the excess
capacity (from Sunfish Lake) which has not yet been determined.
She further stated that the outlet would also involve the potential for
Sunfish Lake to develop at a greater level as well, and that could
also affect the level of the lake. She asked if research has been done
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to determine the additional capacity needed to accommodate any
additional development within the watershed district.
Public Works Director Danielson responded that Sunfish Lake is
being developed residentially, which has the least run -off potential,
and there is ample storage space within the watershed system to
handle the added water. He stated that the check/balance is that
should it become a problem, the flow from the lake could be metered
down.
Acting Mayor Smith asked if the level of the Copperfield pond and
other ponding areas will increase as well. Mr. Danielson responded
that it will not, and that the level of all of the city's ponding in the
southeast area is all controlled downstream now.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if the city needs to be concerned
that lowering Sunfish Lake to the appropriate level will not fill the
city's ponds.
Mr. Danielson responded that the Mendota Heights ponds have
sufficient capacity and the water will keep running. He stated that
two things could be done to stop the flow for periods of time should
problems occur downstream such as a blockage - there will be a
joint powers agreement, which will address Council's concerns, and
there will be a hold harmless agreement to protect the city.
Administrator Lawell stated that the level of Sunfish Lake is rising
and perhaps the joint powers agreement should restrict building
close to the lake.
Acting Mayor Smith suggested that the restriction could be based on
a specific distance from the high water mark.
Councilmember Huber stated that Council wants to make sure that
there is nothing new coming into Sunfish Lake that would then drain
to Mendota Heights and create a headwater.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if the metering could be done on
an emergency basis rather than on an on -going basis, which would
eliminate Council's concerns. Public Works Director Danielson
responded that he will look into the suggestion.
Acting Mayor Smith suggested that staff seek out similar situations
around the Twin Cities area to see what problems have arisen. She
pointed out that the major concern is that the city does not become
liable if the Mendota Heights system cannot handle the flow.
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Mr. Danielson responded that he will provide Council with details
on the design of the Copperfield pond when the joint powers
agreement is brought to Council. He informed Council that the
engineers for Sunfish Lake have looked at what impact the outlet
would have on the Copperfield pond. He stated that the biggest
problem that has occurred in the Copperfield area is damming done
by beavers and if the city is vigilant with removing the dams there
should be no problems. He stated that Mendota Heights really
cannot refuse the outlet since both cities are members of the
watershed maintenance organization and the WMO could force the
city to enter into an agreement.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that Council would rather work
cooperatively with Sunfish Lake and arrive at a solution to protect
all parties concerned:
LEXINGTON POND Public Works Director Danielson briefly reviewed his memo on the
status of the Lexington/Marie pond maintenance.
COUNCIL COMMENTS Acting Mayor Smith stated that the "rough road" signs which had
been placed along Mendota Heights Road near Mendota Meadows
has been removed even though the ruts left from bringing the
utilities across Mendota Heights Road to the development remain.
Public Works Director Danielson responded that he was not aware
that the signs had been removed and will direct public works
personnel to replace them. He explained that bituminous is installed
in several lifts and only the first course has been installed. He stated
that there is always some settlement which occurs and it is best to
wait as long as possible before installing the second course.
Public Works Director Danielson informed Council on the progress
of the water tower reconditioning project, stating that the contractor
believes that the project will be completed by the July 15 deadline.
PARK ISSUES Administrator Lawell informed Council that staff has been trying to
meet with the various Mendakota Park ballfield users but may not be
able to meet with all user groups in time to bring the matter back
before Council on July 18. He stated that he hopes to schedule the
issue for Council discussion in early August and all parties will be
notified of the date that the ballfield issues will be considered.
Acting Mayor Smith stated that she does not believe that it is critical
that the matter be on the July 18 agenda and stated that it is much
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more important that a complete review be done before the matter
returns to Council.
Assistant Batchelder announced that the "Celebrate Mendota
Heights Parks!" will be held on July 22.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Koch, Assistant
Batchelder gave an update on the Ivy Falls Park landscaping project.
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before the Council,
Councilmember Koch moved that the meeting be adjourned to the
City Council budget workshop to be held on July 11, 1995.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 10:22 o'clock P.M.
16thleen M. Swanson
City Clerk
ATTEST:
Charles E. Mertensotto
Mayor
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