1995-12-19 Council minutesPage No. 1
December 19, 1995
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, December 19, 1995
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, was held at 7:30 o'clock P.M. at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights,
Minnesota.
Mayor Mertensotto called the meeting to order at 7:30 o'clock P.M. The following members
were present: Mayor Mertensotto, Councilmembers Koch, Krebsbach , Huber and Smith.
AGENDA ADOPTION Councilmember Koch moved adoption of the revised agenda for
the meeting.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Councilmember Smith moved approval of the minutes of the
November 21, 1995 regular meeting as amended.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Councilmember Huber moved approval of the minutes of the
December 13, 1995 Truth In Taxation subsequent hearing.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 3
Nays: 0
Abstain: 2 Koch
Krebsbach
CONSENT CALENDAR Councilmember Huber moved approval of the consent calendar for
the meeting, revised to move items 1, MSA highways, and m, T.H.
110 Frontage Road update, to the regular agenda, along with
authorization for execution of any necessary documents contained
therein.
a. Acknowledgment of the Treasurer's monthly report for
November.
b. Acknowledgment of the minutes of the December 12, 1995
Park and Recreation Commission meeting.
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c. Acknowledgment of the Fire Department monthly report for
October.
d. Acknowledgment of the Fire Department monthly report for
November.
e. Adoption of Resolution No. 95 -71, "RESOLUTION
AMENDING PAY CLASSIFICATION SCHEDULE FOR
NON - ORGANIZED EMPLOYEES TO REFLECT A THREE
PERCENT ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT FOR 1996," and
Resolution No. 95 -72, "RESOLUTION ADOPTING A
SCHEDULE OF COMPENSATION FOR 1996 AND
ESTABLISHING CERTAIN OTHER BENEFITS."
f. Adoption of Resolution No. 95 -73, "RESOLUTION
ACCEPTING WORK AND APPROVING FINAL PAYMENT
FOR IVY FALLS CREEK RESTORATION
(IMPROVEMENT NO. 91, PROJECT NO. 16)."
g. Authorization to execute amendments to the Joint Powers
Agreement for 1996 Funding for the Dakota County
Community Landfill Program.
h. Approval for the Police Department to purchase two heart-start
portable defibrillator devices from surplus 1995 budget funds.
i. Approval for the Police Department to purchase sixteen
Motorola GP portable radios for Police Department use for
$12,736.00.
j. Approval to establish an Equipment Reserve Fund for future
purchases, with a transfer of $25,000 from the 1995 General
Fund surplus.
k. Approval to purchase twelve sets of personal protection
equipment for the Fire Department from Danko Emergency
Equipment for its low bid price of $731.00 per set..
1. Approval of the List of Claims dated December 19, 1995 and
totaling $271,020.43.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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PRESENTATIONS Mr. Nigel Finney, MAC Deputy Executive Director for Planning
and Environment, was present to give Council and the audience a
presentation on the Dual Track Airport Planning Process and the
associated draft Environmental Impact Statement.
Mr. Finney discussed the requirements of state statute and gave an
overview of the Executive Summary of the EIS. Mr. Finney gave a
slide presentation giving an overview of what has happened since
1989. He informed Council that if the statute which directed the
dual track process remains in place, MAC will be making a
recommendation to the Legislature in July of 1996.
Mayor Mertensotto asked about noise mitigation estimates.
Mr. Finney responded that the MAC is currently working with the
communities adjacent to the airport to come up with a noise
mitigation plan and hopes to have the cost information available
when the recommendation goes to the legislature.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the currently information was that it
will cost twice as much to change if the mitigation factor has not
been included in the equation.
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Councilmember Smith stated that she did not have information on
what the components were in the cost figures, but re -use of the
existing facility is not included either, and it is entirely possible
that there would be some revenue derived from reuse.
Mr. Finney agreed, but stated that MAC has not made an attempt
to allocate either any costs or any revenues from the existing site
for a couple of reasons. He explained that the ability of the
metropolitan area to absorb that much acreage into its base is really
uncertain at this time so it is not known how quickly the property
could be sold and developed. He stated that at this time it has been
assumed that it is a revenue neutral issue. There will be some
costs associated with demolition of the existing facilities and some
revenues derived, but they will probably offset each other in the
long run.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked about increase to the tax base.
Mr. Finney responded that has not been factored in yet, as the
existing airport is not part of an existing municipality and there
would have to be legislative action to decide how to handle it in the
event there was a decision made to move the airport and redevelop
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the site. He stated that the airport is part of Hennepin County but
not part of any city.
Councilmember Smith stated that an extension to the question is
increase in the tax base because there would not be a depression in
market values because of air noise.
Mr. Finney responded that the MAC has tried to look at that over
the years but has not come up with any clear indication as to what
extent there is any impact on market values of properties.
Councilmember Krebsbach pointed out that in his presentation Mr.
Finney has spoken about taking intuitive findings and turning them
into statistics.
Mr. Finney responded that he feels there is a difference between an
intuitive finding that can be quantified and documented as opposed
to impact on property values. He stated that there has never been a
court finding that there is an impact of values.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she is talking about the
other way - an intuitive finding on what increased tax value might
be.
Mr. Finney stated that where that revenue would be allocated (the
legislature would have to make a decision on how to allocate the
revenue), and the extent to which development would occur are
open questions at this time.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would like Mr. Finney
to look at it as an intuitive finding.
Mr. Finney suggested that Council could raise the question as part
of its response to the EIS if it so desires. He stated that the purpose
is to let Council know what is in the EIS and if it feels something
is missing or issues are not addressed, Council has the opportunity
to make those comments. He further stated that the comments
have to be addressed in the final EIS document.
Councilmember Smith stated that she noticed that projections are
relatively flat for the next 25 years and that she can hypothesize
that flights will likely take on more passengers per flight, which is
why it has flattened out.
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Mr. Finney responded that there are really two issues. There is an
assumption inherent in the forecast that as time goes on the size of
the aircraft fleet will increase. For example DC =9s, with a capacity
of about 100 passengers will be replaced by an A -320 sized
aircraft which has a capacity of 128 to 130. There are also
assumptions about the load factor for each flight, which drives the
number of aircraft operations. Regarding noise abatements on the
flights, he stated that early in the process staff was directed to look
at potential changes in aircraft technology that might affect the
process. He explained that engineers from Boeing and McDonald
Douglas were contacted, and their indications were that the aircraft
which are around today (the 757's and A320's) will be around
during the planning process, and there would need to be some
significant change in technology to allow aircraft engines to get
much quieter than they are today.
Councilmember Smith stated that Mr. Finney showed a slide on
the amount of waiting time for aircraft, and while the waiting time
at a new airport would be relatively small, with the addition of one
runway at the existing airport it about halved the current waiting
time. She stated that they were divergent curves that fanned out,
and operations at the airport will not quit in 2020, so there will still
be a major delay even given the modest projections. She asked
what the plans are for dealing with waiting time at that time. She
further asked if there will be a periodic review.
Mr. Finney responded that there is an artificial limit of 30 years
placed on the process, so there has been an attempt to project out to
2020. He stated that the Commission has taken the direction,
based on the legislation, to stop the analysis at 2020 and to look at
the flexibility of either one of the alternatives to accommodate
continued demand. He felt that at the existing site as demand goes
beyond the 520,000 operations forecast in 2020, the delay will
grow rapidly and a second runway would have to be built by the
time operations reach 600,000 per year. If the new airport were
constructed, the delay line stays much flatter and does not grow
anywhere nearly as quickly.
Councilmember Smith stated that one of the astounding things in
the study is that the new airport site is about 14,000 acres, and it is
expected that the 3,000 acre existing airport will perform as well.
She asked if the same criteria was used for the Dakota County site
were used to assess other potential sites and the existing airport
site.
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Mr. Finney responded that the same criteria were used. He also
responded that what the analysis has shown is that the existing site
can be developed to accommodate the level of demand that is
anticipated for the future at delay levels about what they are today.
He further stated that the consequence of retaining the existing
airport is accepting some additional delay for every aircraft
operation and there is not a configuration that works as acceptably
as the new airport at getting aircraft into and out of the airport. He
pointed out that there are trade -offs which the MAC and
Metropolitan Council must consider before making their
recommendation to the legislature.
Councilmember Smith stated that she feels that there were other
sites that would complement the criteria to a greater extent than the
one that was selected.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that her biggest concerns are
noise abatement and the governance issue. She was concerned
over MAC's ability to regulate the airport and very concerned
about the representation on the MAC. She listed the communities
where the MAC Commissioners reside, pointing out that the
individual who represents Mendota Heights resides in Apple
Valley and many of the other Commission members are from
outstate and northern suburbs. She pointed out that Mendota
Heights takes 65% of the flights and stated that she would like to
see some evidence of MAC representing the communities
impacted by the airport. She also wanted to see much more
evidence of MAC regulating the airport in terms of the stage
aircraft, flight patterns and times of flights. She asked if there are
any other airports in the U.S. or the world which are downtown
airports in terms of a similar number of take offs and landings,
comparable number of flights and stage two aircraft, and with so
many neighborhoods impacted by the airport operations. She
stated that she is an advocate of preserving the natural character of
the city of Mendota Heights, and asked what in policy would
protect Dakota County farmland.
Mr. Finney stated that protection of farmland is included in the
Metropolitan Council's Development Guide and each of the
townships have adopted 40 acre homesite minimum requirements.
He explained that a significant portion of the Dakota County
airport site is in agricultural preserve status now and will be for
some time, but there is no long term guarantee that there will not
be expanded development in the future.
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Councilmember Krebsbach asked if any thought has been given to
impact on affordable housing.
Mr. Finney responded that there were evaluations done as part of
the environmental process, looking at it in terms of environmental
justice the findings were that there was not any disproportionately
high impact on low income housing.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that there have been a number of court
cases nationally and a number of studies have been made as far as
the decrease in market value from aircraft noise
Mr. Finney responded that the FAA has endorsed and carried out
studies and has found that there has been some impact but the
impact differs and cannot be applied generally to communities. He
stated that Minneapolis has begun studies to see if there is impact
and they are seeing that there may be a one to two percent
difference in appreciation in property values. .
Mayor Mertensotto stated that one of Council's major concerns is
the north parallel runway. He stated that the north parallel runway
points directly at Mendota Heights and would be devastating to the
city and to Sunfish Lake and West St. Paul as well. He pointed out
that Council cannot be sure that the north/south parallel will not be
built, particularly if the activity at the airport increases to 600,000
operations and a new runway will be needed, and asked how
Council can address the issue at this time. He stated that the MAC
is now trying to keep everything south of T.H. 110, but a north
parallel would bring flights right over the heart of the city. He
pointed out that the city cannot rely that the north/south runway
will not be built and he was concerned that if Bloomington and
Richfield get their way, there may be a shift to construction of the
north parallel prior to or in advance of the Cedar Avenue runway.
Mr. Finney responded that there are really two issues, the north
parallel runway versus the north/south runway, and the north
parallel runway. He stated that the north/south runway is included
in the recommendation that MAC will make to the Legislature and
it would have legislative endorsement. The recommendation will
not include the north parallel runway to the extent that the north
parallel runway is not shown on the development plan. He
explained that the north parallel runway is in response to continued
demand if the airport stays where it is, and the issue will have to be
addressed by the MAC as it struggles with its decisions.
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Mayor Mertensotto stated that the noise contours are not indicative
of the noise levels on the ground.
Mr. Finney stated that he agrees with Council on DNL 65, but
DNL 60 is more representative of what the cities feel the impact is.
He stated that while it has taken a long time, even the FAA has
come to the conclusion that a line can not be drawn where one side
of a block is impacted and the other is not. He felt that the agencies
are slowly coming to a realization that they may have to go beyond
DNL 65 as it relates to noise mitigation in the future.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that he cannot conceive that MAC
can continue to use the same flight patterns all the time and say it
is the best they can do. He informed Mr. Finney that Council is
looking for an equitable distribution of air noise and the constant
repetitive over flights. He stated that many people built homes in
the south area of the city in the 1950's and 1960's when runway
11 L was only a taxiing use, and there was no dual operation. He
felt that it is not fair to say to those people that they knew the
airport was there when they built.
Councilmember Smith stated that she noticed that under economic
impacts in the study it is stated that noise mitigation will cost $1
million for the new airport and $13 million for MSP. She did not
think the report adequately addresses the issues nor does it state in
strong enough terms what the impact would be. She also asked
about expanded parking for MSP maintenance operations.
Mr. Finney responded that the statement relates only to sound
insulation. Regarding parking expansion, he stated that if one were
to compare the number of parking spaces to the number at
comparable airports, it would be much higher because there is a
maintenance facility at MSP. He stated that Northwest Airlines
has indicated that if a new airport is built it will not relocate its
maintenance operations to the new airport. He stated that this
would cut 11,000 jobs at the new airport, and the indication is that
those jobs would be moved out of the state.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that her issue is with regulation
of the MAC. She further stated that the country is moving into an
era of competition between "city- states" and asked if either the
existing or new airport would be world -class facilities.
Mr. Finney responded that in his opinion both facilities are world
class. He stated that MSP has as good air access to the country as
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any hub airport in the U.S. He further stated that there are other
airports that have more significant international activity, but he
believes some of that will change over the coming few years as
flights to Germany and Canada are added at MSP.
Airport Relations Commission Chair Scott Beatty stated that on the
drawings the DNL 65 contour looks like it goes much farther out
than the commission has ever seen. He noted that DNL 65 has
normally been at about I -35E, but on the year 2000 drawings, it is
farther out, which is in contrast to what has been said about Stage 3
aircraft shrinking the contours.
Mr. Finney responded that the outer west contour is actually at
LDN 60 on the drawings, and LDN 65 ends just about at the
intersection of I -35E and I -494. He stated that this is the year 2005
contour which assumes an all Stage 3 fleet.
Councilmember Smith stated that Mr. Finney has indicated that the
airport is becoming more sensitive even to the DNL 60 contours,
and asked how that will benefit Mendota Heights.
Mr. Finney responded that he thinks there is an attempt to put
1 together a package of noise mitigation measures that is intended to
focus beyond the DNL 65 contour. He further stated that he
believes funding for sound insulation will extend to DNL 60.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if there has been any discussion
about the five generations of people not having access to the
confluence of the Minnesota and Mississippi Rivers. She stated
that the whole river valley is impacted by the noise which cannot
be mitigated and those who wish to walk the valley.
Mr. Finney responded that the issue has never been raised by the
DNR or any other agency.
Airport Relations Commission member Dave Olson stated that he
is concerned about cargo operations. He asked if night flights by
cargo operators will increase if the airport does not move.
Mr. Finney responded that MAC looked at air cargo activities and
anticipates rapid growth in the small package carriers, which
appear to be accommodating those increases by using larger
aircraft. He stated that there is currently an agreement that cargo
carriers operate before 11:00 p.m. and if they have any flights after
that time they must use Stage 3 aircraft. He stated that UPS and
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FedEx have all Stage 3 aircraft in their fleets at this time and by
1999 all cargo carriers must use Stage 3 aircraft or they will be out
of business. He further stated that MAC is continuing to develop
the reliever airport to help handle the private plane operations.
Mr. Finney informed Council that it has until February 13 to
submit written comments on the EIS.
Mayor Mertensotto expressed Council's appreciation to Mr. Finney
for his presentation.
SENIOR HOUSING Ms. Kari Gill, Deputy Executive Director of the Dakota County
HRA, was present to request Council approval of a cooperation
agreement relative to the proposed senior housing project. She
explained that 40 of the 65 units proposed will be available for low
to moderate income seniors, and the remaining 25 units will be
available on a market rate basis for seniors with higher income
levels. She stated that the county board recently approved a bond
sale for the project and hopes to complete site acquisition this
winter. She informed Council that she plans to appear before the
Planning Commission in January to request rezoning and other
planning approvals, and if all approvals are granted, construction
on the project could begin in June.
Mayor Mertensotto asked if the HRA will be petitioning for public
improvements.
Public Works Director Danielson responded that any
improvements to the property will likely just benefit the property,
including extending South Plaza Drive, and extension of the sewer
and water system just to the HRA project, and these are anticipated
to be done as part of the HRA project itself.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the city normally prepares
engineering studies and contracts for improvements. He asked if
this project would differ from the norm.
Mr. Danielson responded that the last discussion with the HRA on
improvements was that, because all of the costs will be borne by
the HRA project and there will be no assessments, the HRA would
do the engineering and contract for construction.
Ms. Gill stated that the HRA would be agreeable to whatever the
city wishes, either engineering, contracting and construction by the
HRA or the city.
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Mayor Mertensotto stated that he would prefer to follow normal
procedures. He asked if the cooperation agreement is a standard
agreement.
Ms. Gill responded that the agreement is standard, and there are
seven buildings which have been constructed under the agreement.
She stated that the bond sale for the project will occur on
December 20. Ms. Gill reviewed an architectural rendition of the
project and stated that the exterior of the three -story structure will
be brick and siding.
Mayor Mertensotto informed Ms. Gill that Council does not want
to set a precedent on the building height.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she thought there would be
more leeway in the design, such as a two story structure.
After discussion, Councilmember Huber moved to approve the
proposed cooperation agreement and authorize its execution by the
Mayor and Interim City Administrator.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 95 -26, Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
CONWAY Danielson regarding continued discussion on the landscape plans
for the Conway three season porch at 2288 Apache Street. Council
also acknowledged a memo from the City Planner. Mr. & Mrs.
Conway were present for the discussion.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he is not happy to see that the
neighbor has requested a seven and one -half foot fence along the
full property line.
Mr. Conway responded that he and his wife do not want the fence
either.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that what is appropriate is screening for
about 24 feet, along the east property line, so that the porch would
be screened from the view of the neighbor. He stated that the City
Planner recommends that the Conways plant six three -foot shrubs
along the property line
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Mr. Conway stated that he agrees with the recommendation, and
while he has not received written quotes from landscapers yet, he
has contacted landscapers and he will accept the recommendation.
He stated that the Planner recommended either amur maple or red
twig dogwood. He further stated that he would prefer to plant
dogwood, which would grow to a maximum of eight feet tall,
which is what Mr. Greenberg has been talking about for screening
height.
After discussion, Councilmember Huber moved to require the
planting of six plants, three feet in height, and all of the same type,
either amur maple or red twig dogwood, whichever the applicants
select, to be evenly spaced across twenty -four feet along the
easterly property line to screen the three- season porch from the
view of the Greenberg property.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
BALL FIELD USE Council acknowledged a memo from Interim Administrator
Batchelder regarding Mendakota Park field scheduling for softball
and baseball use. Council also acknowledged a letter and baseball
needs from the Mendota Heights Athletic Association (MHAA)
and information on softball league scheduling needs and team
composition.
Interim Administrator Batchelder stated that he was contacted by
MHAA and softball team representatives saying that they would
not be present and that they have reached agreement for 1996
scheduling.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he does not think Council should
take any action this evening other than to set a joint meeting
between Council, the Park and Recreation Commission, and
representatives of the MHAA and softball teams. He stated that a
joint meeting has been recommended for January 9, in conjunction
with the Park and Recreation Commission meeting. He felt that it
would be best if the Commission would conduct its scheduled
business first, starting at 6:30 p.m., and that the workshop be
conducted at 7:30.
Councilmember Huber moved to conduct a joint workshop with
the Park and Recreation Commission, Mendota Heights Athletic
Association and softball representatives and any other interested
individuals at 7:30 p.m. on January 9 in the Council Chambers.
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Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
IVY FALLS CREEK Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
OUTLOT Danielson regarding a request from Mr. Jack Brassard. President of
the Ivy Falls Home Owners' Association, that the city accept title
to the "common property" owned by the Association along the Ivy
Falls Creek. Council also acknowledged receipt of a letter from
the Association and a proposed deed to Outlots B and C of the Ivy
Falls 2nd Addition. Mr. Brassard was present for the discussion.
Mayor Mertensotto expressed concern that the deed states that the
grantee acknowledges that the property abuts residences and use of
the property for trails, recreational purposes, etc., would be
disruptive.
Mr. Brassard stated that the Association would agree to removing
the clause to which the Mayor referred.
Mayor Mertensotto asked why it is proposed that the deed be by
Quit Claim rather than a Warranty Deed.
City Attorney Hart agreed that the deed should be a Warranty
Deed.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he does not see where anything will
change except that the Association is now carrying insurance and
paying taxes on the property.
Mr. Brassard responded that before the storm sewer improvements
and creek improvements were constructed the Association carried
about $500,000 of insurance because the Association was protected
by state law which established an insurance cap if there was no
improvement to a natural waterfall in any way. He stated that
since the improvements have been constructed, there is no longer
any protection under state law and the Association will need to
acquire a much larger insurance policy.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the home owners are calling the
Police Department now when there is a problem, and the city will
do no more in terms of policing than it currently does. He stated
that the creek is part of a city drainage system, and if the city held
ownership of the outlots it could install no- trespassing signs and
have more control that if the property were privately owned. He
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felt that city ownership of the property is appropriate, but pointed
out that it is anticipated that the residents will not build anything or
put any structures on the property. He asked if all of the conflicts
within the Association have been resolved.
Mr. Brassard responded that he has received a letter from Mr. Ellis
Abramson that he did not like the creek improvement or turning
the land over to the city. He stated that the Association took a vote
among its 102 members, and the bylaws require that 2/3 of the
membership vote in favor of disposing of the land. He informed
Council that more than 2/3 of the membership have voted in favor
of the proposal, and although five members have indicated that
they oppose it, there are possibly 14 who are opposed. He
explained that any of the members have relief under the bylaws to
challenge the property transfer.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council will not take action on the
matter this evening. He pointed out that the city will not give any
different service to the Association than it currently receives and
nothing will change if the transfer occurs. He asked Mr. Brassard
to have the deed revised to eliminate the clause about use of the
property and to change it from a Quit Claim deed to a Warranty
Deed.
Attorney Hart stated that there should also be a reversionary clause
in the deed should there be a controversy in the future about
whether the city violates the conditions of the deed.
COTTAGE Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
DEVELOPMENT Danielson regarding a request from Mr. John Arkel, Cottage
Development Company, for a pre - application conference to discuss
the possibility of constructing cottage townhomes on tax forfeited
lots 1 through 4 of the Yorkton Centre Pointe South plat. Council
also acknowledged receipt of information from Cottage
Development. Mr. Arkell and Mr. Volkstrom, the project
architect, were present for the discussion.
Mr. Arkell stated that he would like to develop a site in Centre
Pointe South adjacent to Resurrection Cemetery. He explained
that the site is 240 feet deep, which is difficult for commercial
development but ideal for townhouses. He stated that he proposes
72 units on the lots, 6 units per acre.
Mr. Volkstrom stated that it is proposed to construct a number of
berms around the buildings to make them look more residential,
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with pines planted on top of the berms. He stated that each
driveway entrance would have boulder walls. Mr. Volkstrom
reviewed the site plan, stating that the interior square footage will
be 1,260 per unit, and that they will be long and narrow to fit better
on the site. They will have brick exteriors and cedar roofs, and the
market price will be about $100,000 per unit.
Mr. Arkell stated that the units will be marketed and designed for
empty nesters without children. He stated that the homes in the
surrounding neighborhood appear to be in the $150,000 to
$160,000 range, and townhomes generally are built in the range of
about 2/3 of the value of the surrounding homes. He explained that
he is present this evening because he went to the county auction on
the property. He stated that the county has placed a $510,000
value on the property and he cannot get a contingency from the
county. He further stated that he cannot make a planning
application for rezoning without owning the property or having it
under purchase agreement, and it would be too big of a risk for him
to make the $100,000 down payment required by the county unless
he has an indication that the city would favorably consider the
application. He stated that he would like to get a feeling from the
Council.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council has hoped that all of the
land south of T.H. 110 and west of Lexington will develop in
commercial use, and the question of mixed residential /commercial
use has already been raised. He further stated that it is his
impression that Council would be concerned about the density of
people living in the proposed development because of the traffic
situation. He informed Mr. Arkell that now that the bridge work
and highway are completed, the Lexington/ 110 area has become a
gateway to the community and he is concerned that it does not look
like a high density area.
Councilmember Krebsbach felt that the matter should be
considered by the Planning Commission before Council can give it
consideration.
Councilmember Smith stated that Council started a planning
process to look at the Highway 55 corridor some time ago and
extended the corridor to include the T.H. 110/Lexington area. She
stated that the process is only half way completed and she is not
willing to make a change at this time.
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Mayor Mertensotto stated that he feels the HR -PUD designation
would be very heavy density in the proposed location, which is a
front door to the community. He further stated that if Council were
to say that the six unit proposal appears to be fine, it would be
committing to the density of an HR -PUD, and he would not want
that kind of density for the proposed lots when the rest of the
subdivision is commercial.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that the other question is what
the impact would be on development of the remainder of the plat
as a business area.
TRANSIT OPTIONS Council acknowledged a memo from Interim Administrator
Batchelder regarding the city's response to the Metropolitan
Council Transit Operations (MCTO) regarding the elimination of
Route 29 and proposed transit alternatives and transit service
changes. Council also acknowledged a letter from the Minnesota
Valley Transit Authority (MVTA).
Interim Administrator Batchelder informed the audience that a
subcommittee of the Council, Councilmembers Huber and Smith,
had met with MCTO representatives to reviewed the details of the
MCTO proposal. He stated that the subcommittee members were
concerned that the route changes proposed by MCTO would be
appropriate and would provide an equivalent level of service
currently provided by Route 29. He informed Council that he has
spoken to Mr. Michael Abegg, MVTA Planner, today regarding
the MVTA letter. He stressed that the city needs to be vigilant in
seeing that the MCTO follows through with negotiations on the re-
routing of MVTA Route 48. He explained that there are some
handing issues that the two agencies need to work out, and the city
must make sure that the agencies follow through on their
negotiations.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that when the MCTO express route to
Minneapolis (95M) is re- routed, the city must make sure that the
express route does not change to make stops at every corner on
Hiawatha Avenue.
Councilmember Smith responded that while MCTO is very willing
to work with the city and re -route existing routes, her concern is
that MCTO might be tempted in the future to change the express
route to provide stops on Hiawatha in order to cut back on costs.
She noted that there are currently other transit routes along
Hiawatha.
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Councilmember Huber stated that he is also concerned, but that he
does not know how the city could stop the MCTO from stopping
on Hiawatha in the future.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the main concern is that if the city
loses Route 29 in April and there is only one replacement route,
that transit will not be eliminated along Dodd Road. He stated that
the city would then be getting nothing for its annual financial
contribution to MCTO.
Councilmember Smith stated that the extension of Route 7 from
West St. Paul would take riders to St. Paul but would not go north
on Dodd beyond Wentworth.
Mayor Mertensotto asked what mechanism Council has to be sure
it is kept informed.
Interim Administrator Batchelder responded that if Council agrees
to the proposals, MCTO staff will begin working on the options,
and they have begun negotiations with the MVTA for re-routing of
Route 48. He stated that the extension of Route 7 will replace the
number of stops that Route 29 currently provides in Mendota
Heights and that Route 48 would provide Dodd Road and the north
part of the city with service to downtown St. Paul. He further
stated that a park-and-ride at Dodd and T.H. 110 for express Route
95M would provide the additional service to Minneapolis which is
not currently available to Mendota Heights residents.
Councilmember Huber informed Council that he has spoken to the
MCTO transportation director and she advised that disabled
individuals living within a certain distance of an existing MCTO
route must be provided with MCTO services to wherever the
individuals wish to go. However, if the route is terminated, MCTO
no longer needs to provide the service. He stated that given the
short time frame the city is working under, the plan envisions that
negotiations must continue with MVTA in order for it to work. He
further stated that it would be nice if there were a firm commitment
from MVTA, but he does not think the city can do much else other
than to monitor the negotiations at this time. He explained that
MVTA was very concerned that its drive time might be
lengthened, and because of the additional time they might lose
existing riders.
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Councilmember Smith stated that given the uncertainty over
MVTA Route 48A, she feels any response from the city to the
MCTO should be a contingent response.
Mayor Mertensotto agreed, stating that since there is nothing firm
now, the city's response should be that the transit alternatives
appear to be a workable solution for the immediate future and that
Council will continue to work with MCTO to be sure there will be
continued bus service at least to downtown St. Paul.
Councilmember Huber stated that MVTA is also interested in a
park and ride at the Mendota Plaza.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that the Plaza has signed and is
watching trucks now, and there have been some buses parked in
the back of the shopping center. He stated that the city has not
taken on the maintenance of the shopping center lot and he would
not want the Plaza owners to come back in the future and say that
since Council asked them to allow bus parking the city has to assist
in repair costs.
Councilmember Smith stated that it was her assumption that bus
parking would continue, and there is a drive through that is
reinforced. She felt that the Plaza would be doing a disservice to
the city if it does not allow buses to drive through.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would like to receive a
copy of the Council minutes when the parking lot was discussed.
She stated that as she remembers the discussion, it was centered on
trucks, and she did not believe there was discussion about buses.
Mayor Mertensotto agreed, stating that the problem was stated that
trucks and buses ruined the parking lot and the owner wants to
avoid that situation from happening again.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that one question she has is the
park and ride on Dodd and T.H. 110. She asked the subcommittee
for its recommendation.
Councilmember Huber stated that the MCTO wants to know if the
city has an interest in a second stop along T.H. 110 in addition to
the Dodd Road intersection. He stated that MCTO talked about a
park and ride at City Hall, but he did not think it would be a good
idea to have a stop at Lexington and 110 if there is a park and ride
at T.H. 110 and Dodd. He informed Council that there is a
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possibility that the bus could pick people up from the park and ride
on the way to Minneapolis without having to come off the highway
and onto Dodd, but on the return trip it would have to pull off of
T.H. 110 onto Dodd to enter the park and ride. He stated that
MCTO is talking about 50 cars parking in the lot, and he and
Councilmember Smith have told them the lot would have to be
blacktopped for that number of cars.
Mayor Mertensotto suggested that Mn/DOT right -of -way along
Dodd at Wagon Wheel might be an appropriate park and ride
location.
Councilmember Smith responded that she feels the facility should
be closer to the commercial area so that people can get off the bus
and have some shelter and perhaps a phone. Councilmember
Krebsbach felt that a park and ride at Wagon Wheel would infringe
upon the residential area.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he feels the park and ride is a
separate issue which Council can revisit.
Councilmember Smith responded that while it is perhaps a separate
issue, it is very important that there be a park and ride.
Councilmember Huber stated that the recommendation should
include a statement that if negotiations with MVTA are
unsuccessful, the city will come back to MCTO to request another
plan.
It was the consensus to direct staff to submit a conditional response
to MCTO informing them that Council has discussed the
recommendations and believes they are workable for the future
and wants to continue dealing with MCTO regarding providing
alternate services after Route 29 is eliminated.
Councilmembers Huber and Smith were asked to continue acting
as Council's subcommittee.
Interim Administrator Batchelder informed Council has had
discussions with Paster Enterprises regarding allowing a park and
ride to continue at the shopping center. He father stated that staff
will continue to attempt to meet with Paster Enterprises regarding a
turn around in the area where the bonfire used to be held, where
there is no pavement.
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December 19, 1995
HOUSING GOALS Council acknowledged a memo from Interim Administrator
Batchelder regarding the Metropolitan Livable Communities Act
proposed goals agreement.
Interim Administrator Batchelder stated that Council voted to
participate in the Livable Communities Act in November, and the
second step in the process was to negotiate a goals agreement with
the Metropolitan Council. He stated that Council had discussed
working in a cluster with the Dakota County HRA on an action
plan, and the HRA petitioned the Metropolitan Council to cluster
all Dakota County cities for the purposes of a goals statement. The
Metropolitan Council wants each individual city to commit to a
goals statement, and the city would have until June 30 to adopt an
action plan. He further stated that the Metropolitan Council has
looked favorably on the Dakota County plan but at this point what
is before Council is a first draft of the housing goals agreement.
Interim Administrator Batchelder then reviewed the draft
agreement and an addendum.
Mayor Mertensotto suggested that "the City will use its best
efforts" replace "the City agrees," and to change "given market
conditions" to "subject to market conditions."
Councihmember Smith expressed concern with the way the goals
are written. She stated that Council discussed that it is possibly
impossible for the city to meet the benchmarks given the nature of
the community. She felt that the goals open the city to failure and
that Council must be made more realistic. She felt that Council is
opening itself to criticism as there is no way the goal can ever be
reached.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he thinks the $125,000 benchmark
can be easily reached but did not think a 25% rental can ever be
reached.
Councilmember Smith stated that she would like an actual goal
rather than an arbitrary benchmark based on other communities.
She stated that the city should research to see what goal can be
met.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the city is willing to work with the
Metropolitan Council, but pointed out that Mendota Heights does
not receive any aids, such as LGA, which the other cities receive.
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Councilmember Smith felt that Council should approach the matter
realistically and that the first draft should just be to form a plan to
discuss what Council hopes to achieve in the first year.
Interim Administrator Batchelder stated that the city needs to work
with Dakota County over the next six month but the Metropolitan
Council considers the Dakota County action plan as the prototype
for communities. He further stated that the city has been advised
to put the qualifications into an addendum to advise the
Metropolitan Council that the city cannot meet all of the goals
simply because there is not enough land left in Mendota Heights.
Councilmember Smith stated that once actual goals have been
established, she thinks the city needs to explain them.
It was the consensus that Council is not ready to adopt the
addendum yet and needs more information. It was the further
consensus that the document be changed from "Goals Agreement"
to "Goals Statement."
GIS Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
Danielson regarding an offer of a $5,000 grant from NSP to use
towards implementing GIS. Council also acknowledged receipt of
a letter from NSP.
Councihember Krebsbach stated that she does not see any
safeguards on who has access to the software and was concerned
about the overlay of information that cities can get on residents.
She asked who will have access and where is there protection for
the home owners.
Councilmember Smith responded that there are already
commercial vendors using GIS and the people can get information
from the county as well, as it is public information.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that GIS is an excellent planning tool but
he is concerned that if the city accepts the $5,000 and gets a
matching grant from the Metropolitan Council it still might take a
great deal more money to get the system. He suggested that the
grant be accepted and that staff work towards a purchase but first
obtain more information on costs.
Councilmember Huber moved to accept the offer from NSP for a
$5,000 grant towards implementing GIS and to authorize staff to
apply to the Metropolitan Council for a matching grant.
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Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 1 Krebsbach
MSA STREETS Public Works Director Danielson reviewed a memo from Civil
Engineer Sanders recommending that MSA designation for
Victoria Road from Marie Avenue to T.H. 13 be revoked and that
several other streets be given MSA designation.
Councilmember Smith asked if any of the streets will require
substantial changes if they become MSA streets.
Mr. Danielson responded that none need to be widened, but some
have curves that do not meet the MSA standards if the city is
planning to spend MSA funding on them.
There was discussion about possibly adding Lake Drive rather
than Ivy Falls Avenue. Staff was directed to move the designation
around so that the full MSA mileage allotment is used.
SOS - MN /DOT Council acknowledged a memo and proposed resolution from
AGREEMENT Public Works Director Danielson regarding a proposed Mn/DOT
cooperative agreement grant to complete the frontage road
improvements needed for the SOS site development.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that as a member of a Council
subcommittee on development of the site, she wants to be kept
informed of all meetings relating to the site.
Interim Administrator Batchelder stated that he has spoken to
representatives of the Dakota Bank and they have indicated they
will continue working with the subcommittee.
Councilmember Koch moved adoption of Resolution No. 95 -75,
"RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PARTICIPATION WITH
MN /DOT IN A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT TO UPGRADE
THE TH 110 FRONTAGE ROAD LOCATED EAST OF
LEXINGTON AVENUE AND SOUTH OF TH 110."
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
COUNCIL COMMENTS Mayor Mertensotto informed Council that a meeting of the MSP
communities group will be held at 7:30 a.m. on December 20 at the
Marriott.
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Councilmember Huber gave an update on NDC -4 meetings with
Continental Cable.
Interim Administrator Batchelder informed Council on the status
of the MPRS litigation.
Councilmembers Krebsbach and Smith complimented the Public
Works Department on its snow plowing efforts. Councilmember
Koch stated that she received many calls from her neighbors
complimenting the Public Works staff on snow plowing.
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before the Council,
Councilmember Koch moved that the meeting be adjourned.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 11:16 P.M.
athleen M. Swanson
City Clerk
ATTEST:
Charles E. Mertensotto
Mayor