1996-07-02 Council minutesPage No. 1
July 2, 1996
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, July 2, 1996
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, was held at 7:30 o'clock P.M. at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights, Minnesota.
Mayor Mertensotto called the meeting to order at 7:30 o'clock P.M. The following members were
present: Mayor Mertensotto, Councilmembers Koch, Krebsbach and Smith. Councilmember Huber had
notified the Council that he would be late.
AGENDA ADOPTION Councilmember Krebsbach moved adoption of the revised agenda
for the meeting.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Councilmember Smith moved approval of the minutes of the
regular meeting held June 18, 1996 as amended.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 3
Nays: 0
Abstain: 1 Krebsbach
CONSENT CALENDAR Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of the consent calendar
for the meeting, revised to move item f, Friendly Hills Middle
School, to the regular agenda, along with authorization for execution
of any necessary documents contained therein.
a. Acknowledgment of the minutes of the June 12, 1996 Airport
Relations Commission meeting.
b. Acknowledgment of the minutes of the June 25, 1996
Planning Commission meeting.
Acknowledgment of the Code Enforcement monthly report
for June.
d. Acceptance of the resignation of Diane Ward with regret,
appointment of Nancy Bauer as Deputy Clerk, authorization
for staff to internally post the engineering secretary position,
_, and authorization for staff to begin the recruitment process for
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the vacancy or for a vacancy which occurs as the result of
internal posting.
e. Adoption of Resolution No. 96-41, "RESOLUTION
APPROVING FINAL PLAT FOR SOUTHRIDGE
BUSINESS CENTER 2m ADDITION."
f, Authorization to issue a purchase order for $4,437.00 plus
tax and delivery to Dell Computers for a Dell Dimension Pro
200 computer system in accordance with its quote dated June
25, 1996 and authorization for the issuance of a purchase
order in an amount up to $2,400 plus tax and delivery for
acquisition of a color output device.
g. Adoption of Ordinance No. 310, "AN ORDINANCE
PROHIBITING PARKIG ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF
MARIE AVENUE BEING 50 FEET WIDE CENTERED ON
THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK LOCATED ACROSS
h. Acknowledgment of the Sprint antenna agreement
i. Approval of the list of contractor licenses dated June 4, 1996
and attached hereto.
j. Approval of the List of Claims dated June 4, 1996 and totaling
$468,562.58.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
MIDDLE SCHOOL Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
Danielson regarding the Friendly Hills Middle School construction.
Ms. Lois Rockney, Assistant Superintendent for Business Affairs,
and Mr. Bob Gunderson, landscape architect for the project, were
present for the discussion.
Ms. Rockney confirmed that there has been a change in the grading
plan for the school property. She explained that the school district
began construction on the project on June 10 and residents on the
north property line were concerned about the grading on the site and
how close it would come to their properties. She explained that she
and others met with the neighbors and city officials, and after that
meeting directed the project architect to look at the site plan and
work with city engineering. She informed Council that the result
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was a revised plan which has been approved by the school board
subject to City Council approval. She explained that after board
approval she again met with the neighbors and feels that all of the
concerns have now been resolved.
Councilmember Huber arrived at 8:30 p.m.
Mr. Gunderson reviewed the revised grading and landscape plan.
He stated that there were two major issues - a screen between the
residences and the athletic fields, and drainage. He explained that
the water from the site will drain in three directions - to the drainage
swale to the north, to Huber Drive and to the swale to the south. The
proposed drainage swales on each side of the fields will drain to the
city catch basins, and a twenty -foot "no disturb" zone will be
maintained between the fields and the neighbors. He informed
Council that this area will not be touched during construction.
Responding to a question from Mayor Mertensotto about grade
changes to the north on the field, Mr. Gunderson stated that there
will be a 2% slope from the middle to the edge of the field as
compares to the existing 4% slope. He explained that the field width
has been narrowed to 195 feet, and by doing that, he was able to get
more distance from the property line to where the field of play will
be in order to create the buffer zone.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she wants to be sure that the
field is still a safe area for the children.
Mr. Gunderson responded that the run off zone is the safety buffer,
and it is almost level. He explained that trees will start about 20 feet
back from the field.
Engineer Mogan informed Council that he has reviewed the grading
plan and found it to be acceptable. He explained that a little more
drainage has been added to the pond, but it will have no impact.
Mr. Gunderson informed Council that he has had daily contact with
the neighbors and the contractor has been working every day
transplanting trees, etc., in the no- disturb zone. He also informed
Council that the north field will accommodate adult play.
Mayor Mertensotto asked if any change has been made in the width
of the curb cuts.
Mr. Gunderson responded that he does not believe there has been
(, any change.
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Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that this is the only part of the
construction detail that says "by city code," and the implication is
that the school district would like larger curb cuts but the city did
not allow it. He stated that Council does not want the school district
to say that the city restricted the curb cuts to 30 feet wide, and
pointed out that Council actually granted up to 36 foot wide cuts.
Councilmember Smith stated that Council gave the district leeway
for creating the additional width for access subject to review by the
school district's engineer for a decision on whether the width should
be increased.
Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that there is a real bottleneck on
Lake Drive, and one school bus must wait for another to come out in
order to make the turn.
Mr. Gunderson responded that he will look at it again. He stated
that he wants the accesses to be as safe and visually appealing and
will look at the plan and fax something to Mayor Mertensotto.
Mr. Gunderson reviewed the landscape plan. He explained that trees
will be planted along Huber Drive and along the fields. The trees
will be planted in groves to screen the view of the neighbors looking
up the hill from their back yards, and most of the trees that are
transplanted to the area will be aspen and boxelder. He informed
Council that the new trees along the entrance to the property will be
two and one -half inch caliper and about eighteen feet tall.
Mayor Mertensotto asked why Mr. Gunderson proposed to
transplant boxelder, which he felt would attract bugs that create real
nuisances. He also asked Mr. Gunderson not to save any
cottonwood trees.
Mr. Gunderson responded that some of the neighbors asked for
boxelders. He explained that the boxelders will be transplanted in
the far reaches, and they will only be transplanted if he runs out of
aspen and sumac and other trees to transplant. He stated that the
boxelders will only be used to get the screen to adequate density.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Smith, he stated that
none of the transplants will leave the school site, however there
could be a mortality rate of 30% during transplanting, so at least at
least 30% of trees in addition to what are needed will be held in
reserve to reserve the ones that die.
( DAKOTA BANK/SUPER Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
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AMERICA Danielson regarding development and tax increment agreements and
final plat approval for Dakota Bank and SuperAmerica. Mr. Mike
Cronin and Mr. Sam Van Tassel were present on behalf of
SuperAmerica. Mr. John Seidel was present for Dakota Bank.
City Attorney Hart informed Council that there are some changes in
the agreements which all parties are in agreement on. He explained
that there are no longer any disagreements over the TIF agreement.
He stated that the changes requested by SuperAmerica on the
agreement involve one inadvertent misunderstanding over transfer of
ownership. He stated that it is understood that Dakota Bank will be
acquiring all the property and the transfer of the SuperAmerica site
to SuperAmerica will be a permitted transfer under the TIF
agreement.
Mayor Mertensotto agreed, stating that SuperAmerica will have its
own pay as you go note.
Attorney Hart stated that in Section 2.2i there is a representation that
the cost of the SuperAmerica site improvements shall be no less than
$800,000, and that it is his understanding that the projected cost of
the improvements has been changed to $600,000. He explained that
if that is the case, SuperAmerica may not qualify for 100% of the
benefits provided in the SA note. He stated that SuperAmerica is
limited to whatever tax revenue the city receives from the site. He
informed Council that Mr. Cronin and Mr. Van Tassel understand
that the SuperAmerica benefits will be reduced by the reduction in
tax revenue.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he will ask Treasurer Shaughnessy to
write each of the applicants a letter regarding the transfer of property
to SuperAmerica and pay as you go note benefits. He explained that
if the properties do not generate enough tax in one year, the
difference will be forfeited and cannot be picked up in another year.
He stated that he is disturbed that SA promised a certain amount of
development and has decreased it: there was a representation of
$800,000 made many times and now SA is saying the value may
only be $600,000.
Mr. Cronin responded that the issue was a misunderstanding that the
real property and personal property could add up to $800,000. He
stated that SA assumed that the total cost included the cost to open
the store, things like the canopy, car wash equipment, coolers, etc.,
which are not considered real property. He stated that
SuperAmerica wants it to be clear that the bricks and mortar
construction cost is about $600,000.
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Attorney Hart stated that the agreement will be amended by an
acknowledgment from the borrower that they understand the issue.
He then informed Council that Section 3.6 of the agreement
references the frontage road which has not yet been specifically
located. He stated that the SuperAmerica representatives are
concerned that from a title perspective, for a short time the entire SA
lot will be burdened by a construction easement. He further stated
that this is not what was originally intended, and that SA should be
assured that the temporary construction easement will in no way
burden the property and that it will terminate at a certain point in
time.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that SA would grant to the city such
right of way as is necessary to build a service road.
Attorney Hart stated that SA has agreed to a temporary construction
easement as` long as the city agrees that SA can build its building in
accordance with the site plan.
Mayor Mertensotto suggested that SA grant the city a temporary
construction easement which would terminate in two years.
Mr. Cronin responded that the specific problem is that as the
easement is written, it covers the entire site.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that if approval of a building permit is
granted, and the building is constructed according to the site plans
on file with the city, there should be no objection to the easement as
the road will not go through the building.
Attorney Hart informed Council that the only paragraph in the site
plan agreement that is controversial is Section 10, regarding
environmental clean up. He explained that the objections he has
received involved the insertion of deadlines for the approval of the
remediation inventory corrective action plan. He stated that SA is
concerned that sixty days is too aggressive for submitting and
getting approval of a plan.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that all Council said was that no
building permit will be issued until SA does the demolition and
clean up of the site.
Attorney Hart stated that a deadline is important, but the city will
not be giving any pay as you go benefit until SA gains occupancy.
He suggested 270 days.
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Mr. Cronin responded that SA's consultant, Delta Environmental,
has not started its specific investigation of the site yet. He explained
that SA can control to some extent how quickly Delta gets its work
done, but it cannot control the PCA process which takes 90 to 120
days.
It was the consensus that 270 days is appropriate.
Attorney Hart stated that the city has suggested that completion of
the remediation work pursuant to the approved correction design be
done in two years, and SA is afraid that it cannot meet the deadline.
Mr. Cronin responded that it is SA's position that it does not know
exactly what will be involved but it is committed to completing the
work as quickly as possible. He stated that at this point SA does not
know what is going to be involved or what the remediation plan will
be, or how long remediation will take.
Mayor Mertensotto asked if completion can be subject to reasonable
extension. He stated that if the city were not putting money into the
project, SA would only need to meet the applicable PCA or state
codes, but Council is concerned about having some monitoring and
some input.
Mr. Cronin responded that SA is in complete agreement with the
final sentence of the section, but the problem is that SA cannot
commit to a process that is totally outside of SA's control.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that on the agreement could be revised to
state that on the two year anniversary, SA could request an extension
which will not be unreasonably withheld by the city.
Attorney Hart agreed, suggesting that as long as SA will diligently
pursue completion the city will not unreasonably withhold
extension. He then informed Council that the only other issue is the
requirement that the city actually approve the remediation action
design.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council would just like the plan to be
filed with the city so that Council has knowledge of the plan and the
ability to review and comment. He informed Mr. Cronin that the
city will not withhold its consent. He stated that on the second
anniversary of the agreement, SA could come back and tell Council
what is going on and Council will not unreasonably withhold an
extension. He informed Mr. Cronin that Council also wants SA to
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be obligated to file the same reports with the city as are filed with
the PCA or any governmental agency.
Mr. Cronin responded that all correspondence will flow to the city.
He further stated that SA still wants to come back for Council
approval of the technical documents which will be prepared for SA.
He asked if Council would state that it does not want to grant
approval but only wants document flow.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the agreement will read that approval
will not be withheld, and informed Mr. Cronin that the Council is
really not asking for more than a notice requirement.
Attorney Hart stated that he does not think SA would take issue with
the language that everything must come to the city, but what is
controversial is the requirement that the city approve the remediation
investigation/corrective action design (RI/CAD). He suggested that
SA give the city the opportunity to comment and if the city fails to
comment within a certain period of time, that would be deemed
approval and acceptance.
Councilmember Koch moved adoption of Resolution No. 96 -42,
( "RESOLUTION APPROVING FINAL PLAT FOR DAKOTA
VALLEY VIEW ADDITION," approval of the Site Plan and
Development Agreement between the city and SuperAmerica and
Dakota Bank as amended, and approval of the amended Contract for
Private Development for Tax Increment Financing to be filed jointly
by SA and Dakota Bank with the provision that the Treasurer write a
letter to both parties as directed earlier in the discussion.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
BOURN DRIVE Council acknowledged a memo a from Administrator Batchelder
regarding a request from Ms. Pat Farrington for a change in the
name of Rogers Road to Bourn Drive. Council also acknowledged a
letter of request from Ms. Farrington along with a proposed
ordinance.
Ms. Farrington submitted a letter from Mr. and Mrs. Gauw, the only
other residents on the street, giving their consent to the street name
change.
Mayor Mertensotto suggested that "drive" envisions something
longer than 500 feet, and that perhaps Bourn Lane would be more
appropriate.
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Ms. Farrington agreed that Lane would be acceptable.
Councilmember Koch moved adoption of Ordinance No. 311, "AN
ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE CHANGE OF THE NAME
OF ROGERS ROAD TO BOURN LANE."
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
BALLFIELD LIGHTS Council acknowledged a memo from City Administrator Batchelder
regarding consideration of a request for ballfield lights at Mendakota
park and updating Council on task force and Parks and Recreation
Commission discussions on the request. Council also acknowledged
receipt of the following information: "Findings of the Ballfield
Lights Task Force for Mendakota Park;" 1996 Mendakota Park
field schedule; other Mendota Heights park field use information;
MHAA "field use information; a 1996 Mendota Heights softball team
status report; census and enrollment information for Independent
School District 197; a letter from Dr. John Norton on MHAA youth
programs and participation; information from Parks Project Manager
Kullander on ballfield development costs and possible site locations;
a memo from Dr. Norton and Adult Softball Representative Jim
Kilburg; a petition from the Mendakota neighborhood in opposition
to lights; letters in opposition to lighting from Mr. & Mrs. Oliver
Courtemanche, Ms. Mary Lou Johnson, Mr. & Mrs. Don
Harrington, Mr. & Mrs. Fred Lambrecht, Mr. Donald McMillan, Mr.
& Mrs. Fred Erickson, Mr. Christopher Scotti, Mr. Richard Gabriel,
and Mr. Bernard Friel; and a letter from Mr. John Carl, Jr.
Regarding the findings of the Ballfield Task Force.
Dr. John Norton, baseball commissioner for MHAA, responded to
the points in the opposition petition. He stated that one of the
original issues was the light shining out too far, another was that the
softball players are loud or rowdy. In response to the light spillage
issue, he showed a video on lighted. fields. He explained that the
lower the poles, the more light spills out, which is why
modifications are made, with internal baffles to bounce light down
and hoods to keep light from shining above. He stated that the video
also showed that lighting can be done without interfering with the
neighborhoods. Regarding the behavior of the softball players, he
stated that they do not have a big following and are not rowdy or
drink at the fields. He stated that the police department has never
received a complaint to his knowledge. Regarding the comment in
the petition that enforcement is poor, he stated that he feels the
police department does a great job, as is evidenced by the baseball
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tournament held last weekend. He stated that there is a critical need
for ballfields in the community.
Mayor Mertensotto asked what the length of the base path is at St.
Thomas Academy.
Dr. Norton responded that St. Thomas has two ninety foot fields that
MHAA rents, and there is one at the Sibley complex that MHAA
uses in addition to the city's athletic complex at Sibley.
Mayor Mertensotto informed the audience that Council appointed a
special task force to discuss ballfield lighting and although they
worked hard they could not come to a set of findings. He stated that
the issue then went to the Parks and Recreation Commission, which
split 3/3 on the issue, and it now has come back to Council with no
definitive information on the problem. He asked how many fields
MHAA needs and how many youth are involved in the MHAA
program. He pointed out that the school district data indicates that
the city is possibly at a peak now and there will not be an increase in
the school district out to the year 2000 or 2001. He asked what the
need is if there are enough fields now for the program and the
student population is not going to increase.
Dr. Norton responded that the younger children have not reached the
top yet and each league will continue to get bigger. He stated that
each year more children are in the programs - two years ago they
year not full but now MHAA is running out of field space. He stated
that MHAA. had to turn down two traveling teams this year, and
many of the children who started in the programs are now coming
up and there is no place to go. He informed Council that there are
300 children in tee ball and those children will be coming up
through the program. He explained that when the current 13 year
olds were in tee ball there were about one -third as many as there are
in the tee ball program now. He stated that MHAA will have to turn
down four traveling teams next year, and while things will
ultimately level out, right now the inflow is much greater than the
outflow.
Mayor Mertensotto asked Dr. Norton how many fields the
association needs per week to play a full schedule.
Dr. Norton responded that MHAA is playing 105 games a week now
inside the city, and Mendota Heights provides 46.2% of MHAA `s
fields - the school district's fields are also used and some fields are
rented. He stated that while there will be two new fields available at
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the middle school in 1998, they will have to be shared with the
soccer teams.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked how many more fields would
satisfy the need if lighting is not installed.
Dr. Norton responded that lighting at Mendakota would allow ten to
twelve more games per week. He explained that adding the middle
school fields will not resolve the problems because bigger fields are
needed as there are children in the fourteen year old group coming
up. He informed Council that the VFW and legion teams also use
the Sibley site. He stated that his feeling is why build new fields
when there are fields at Mendakota and a new shift could be added if
there were lights.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the opposition to the lights is whether
all possibilities have bee explored. He stated that people have asked
about options and the land north of T.H. 110 has been suggested for
possible fields. He felt that the site is not appropriate and pointed
out that it has been held by Mn/DOT for road purposes and the city
would have to purchase the land. He did not think the site is a viable
option. The stated that it was suggested that the National Guard
could perhaps do the grading for the fields, as it would have done on
the Resurrection Cemetery site, but it would not be possible for them
to use their large equipment at the Freeway Road site. He informed
the audience that Council is also looking at possibly trying to
acquire land south of Mendota Heights Road across from St.
Thomas but that is guided for office park. He stated that the
developer of the property wants to use the land for office warehouse
and Council does not want that use across from a school, but the
$4.00 per square foot asking price for the land would be a
tremendous cost. He did not think that timing is right for a bond
issue given that the school district just received bond issue approval
for two schools. He stated that another issue is whether the existing
fields are being fully utilized. He informed the audience that
Council must also wrestle with the need for a full -time recreation
director. He stated that Council wants to keep property taxes down
and does not want to increase the tax rate. Mayor Mertensotto stated
that Council needs to know what the MHAA demands are and
whether they are factual - Council must know that the MHAA
numbers are accurate and then must see what options are available.
He informed the audience that Council has talked to the
Resurrection Cemetery representatives and has received no response.
He felt that the excess cemetery property would be a good place for
a pinwheel design, there would be no concern over lights, and the
88" Air Command would do the site preparation work for the city.
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He also stated that there has been strong demand for an ice arena
across from St. Thomas. He asked Dr. Norton if the MHAA
schedules any games before 5:30 p.m.
Dr. Norton responded that no games are scheduled before 5:30
because the coaches are volunteers and cannot be at the games that
early.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that it has been brought up that the city
must be cognizant of the demands of youth, and the need to keep
them engaged in constructive activities. He felt that youth should be
given the priority for Mendakota Park over adults, and MHAA
cannot through scheduling meet its needs.
Dr. Norton stated that for a 10% investment on top of what the city
has invested in the Mendakota complex, the city would be getting a
200% increase in use if lights are installed. He informed Council
that it is the youth games that are noisy because there are spectators -
there are about 1,200 children in the program but that does not
include the VFW, girls softball, etc. He stated that MHAA also
trains and hires fourteen year olds for umpires. He also stated that
he does not feel that fields should be constructed at Friendly Hills
Marsh. Responding to a question from Mayor Mertensotto, he
stated that there are some children from Eagan in the MHAA
programs because a portion of Eagan is in District 197, but MHAA
can no longer use Eagan fields this year because the Eagan program
has grown.
Mayor Mertensotto suggested that Eagan owes the MHAA
reciprocal use of fields and perhaps possibilities should be explored
with Eagan since there are Eagan youth playing in the MHAA
program. He agreed that Eagan children should be in the MHAA
programs to the extent that if the children are in the same school
district they would want to play with their friends, but that the city
should explore what is available and the school district and Eagan
should recognize that at least the Pilot Knob School fields should be
available for MHAA use.
Dr. Norton stated that he has talked with the school district and use
of the Pilot Knob fields may be a possibility. He informed Council
that he has also talked to West St. Paul and St. Croix Lutheran
Church representatives and everyone he spoke to has the same
problems as MHAA. He stated that there has been much growth in
baseball and soccer.
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Mayor Mertensotto stated that with the amount of attention directed
to the issue, it would behoove Council to ask MHAA to make every
effort possible to adjust its schedules or find all of the fields that are
available. He further stated that if all avenues have been explored,
then he feels youth should have the priority for the Mendakota
fields. He asked that MHAA give Council some breathing room to
look at options and fields. He stated that utilization of fields has to
be greater, both at Sibley and Mendakota, and that perhaps the city
must get more involved in discussions with the school district and
MHAA. He felt that the school district should give MHAA field
space since children in the district but outside of Mendota Heights
are included in the MHAA programs.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Krebsbach, Dr.
Norton stated that the baseball season runs from the second week in
May to July 20, but the traveling teams play into August.
Mr. John Eide, a resident on Swan Court, stated that he has spoken
to the South St. Paul police department a few weeks ago and went
on patrol with them. He stated that the police gave him detail on
McMorrow field and the officers told him that the fields are out of
control and they cannot respond to all of the calls that come in about
the fields.
Councilmember Huber stated that he has spoken to Police Chief
Delmont today, and to the chief s knowledge there has never been
any problem at the Mendakota fields.
Mrs. Edgar stated that she has called several times about teams
drinking at Mendakota and the police do not respond. She further
stated that when she drove by the field at 8:30 there were 60 people
drinking in the parking lot.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that if the police are not responding,
Council can control that. He directed Administrator Batchelder to
notify the police chief of the accusation that the police are not
responding.
Mrs. Edgar stated that MHAA says there is so much pressure on the
fields, yet when she was at a Sibley field on the nights of May 20
and 23 and June 3, there were four fields open.
Dr. Norton responded that there is softball at Sibley four nights a
week.
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' Mrs. Edgar stated that the point is that the information MHAA has
provided states that the fields are being used when in actuality there
is no one there. She also asked why one field needs to be empty at
Mendakota one day of every week.
Mayor Mertensotto asked Administrator Batchelder to check on
scheduling. He stated that Council wants to know whether the fields
are being used, since the information Council has received is that the
Sibley fields are always full.
Mr. Mike Black, 904 Mendakota Court, stated that he was on the
task force and agrees on many of the facts given by Dr. Norton. He
stated that there are some things in the task force report which he
would like to point out. He noted that there has been an increase in
the number of children in the MHAA from 1990 to 1995, but there
has also been a decrease in 1996, and the 1996 enrollment was able
to be accommodated in 1996. Mr. Black stated that the trend is that
there will not be growth in the population, and while it is true that
there are two traveling teams that were not formed this year, the
traveling teams are the skilled players but the regular programs are
available for anyone who wants to play. He stated that the children
could still stay in the MHAA program but chose not to play, and the
point is that everyone is being told the numbers are going up every
year but in fact they went down in 1996 from 1995. He stated that
Dr. Norton mentioned that there are 105 games each week scheduled
by MHAA, and, not counting the fields at Mendakota there are 24
fields available for those 104 games, or an average of four games per
field.
Councilmember Huber stated that what Council needs is information
on matching up the fields with the age ranges. He stated that the
statistics are 105 games on 24 fields, but on any given night there
could be tee ball fields empty but other fields that the older children
need are over crowded.
Dr. Norton pointed out that three or four fields on the list are just
grassy areas.
Mr. Black asked if Dr. Norton is saying that he listed fields as lost
even though they were never used. He stated that if the MHAA is
coming to Council to ask the city to spend public funds to do an
improvement that is controversial and would have a big impact on
the neighborhood, the burden is on MHAA to come forward with
some good, concrete information on the issues where there is some
question. He further stated that he needs additional information in
order to determine if his criticisms are valid. He pointed out that
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there is solid information on the number of children participating in
the program and information from the school district and some
information on scheduling, but there is no information on what
games are actually being played. He stated that it is not up to the
Council to answer those questions, but rather, the burden of proof is
on the MHAA.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that Council has to rely on the people
who are doing the scheduling. He explained that the issue has
become emotional, and a good decision cannot be made - Council
will ask the MHAA to do everything that Mr. Black has asked
including jockeying the scheduling and getting better utility of all
the fields including the school district fields.
Mr. Black stated that MHAA. really does not want lights, it wants
fields. He noted that MHAA. has six games a week at Mendakota
now and under the proposal expects to get 16.games a week at
Mendakota. He felt that if MHAA is only talking about ten games a
week, Council should take a hard look at that when considering
spending so much money.
Responding to a question from Mrs. Edgar, Administrator
Batchelder reviewed city regulations on the use of beer in the parks
as well as the 1995 softball league rules on beer at games.
Mr. Dave Dreelan, 785 Creek, stated that he has played softball at
Mendakota ever since the fields were built and has never been at the
fields past 9:30. He further stated that all of the players are
responsible and do not sit in the parking lot drinking beer after
games. He stated that the team sponsors ask the teams to come to
their establishments after the games. He informed Council that if a
squad car came through the area at 10:00 and told people that the
park is closed, everyone would leave. He explained that players are
not even allowed to drink beer during the games, and beer drinking
just does not happen. He asked Council to make its decision based
on what is best for the community as a whole. He stated that he
lives near the fields and even though lights would affect him he
would like to see lights so that the fields can be used.
Mr. rank Freedman, 906 Mendakota Court, a member of the task
force, stated that the solution to the problem for MHAA is not more
fields like Mendakota but more 90 foot base paths. He stated
Mendakota is not a 90 foot base path field complex and lights will
not add capacity where the association needs it. He explained that
Dr. Norton stated that the need is for 90 foot base paths many times
at the task force meetings. He also pointed out that Mendakota is not
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used by either MHAA or softball on Friday nights, and if the issue is
capacity and utility, the city should look at that.
Mr. Bernard Friel stated that he does not live near the park, and
whatever happens will not affect him, but his concern is the
precedent that lighting the fields would set for lighting throughout
the community. He stated that the school district may want lighting
on its property and once the city has lights in its parks, a precedent
would be set. He further stated that people who play tennis might
then want lights. He observed that the two fact finding bodies that
reported to the Council on the issue failed to reach consensus on the
need for lighting the fields and it does not take much imagination to
see that the traffic and noise that goes along with the extended use of
the lighted fields in the evening does have an impact on the
enjoyment and peace of the people who live nearby. He further
stated that the community does not have a lighting policy now, and
to adopt lighting for this facility there should first be alighting policy
in place.
Councilmember Smith responded that she does not think what
Council is talking about tonight is who is in favor of baseball and
who is not and that everyone would agree that the MHAA is a
valuable asset. She stated that what is being discussed is one
solution to the problem of not enough field time.
Ms. Jann Blesener, 848 Mendakota Court, stated that the analysis
that must go into Council's decision must first be the question of
whether Council agrees that there is indeed a demand for fields. She
felt that the point is debatable, but that if in fact Council agrees there
is a demand, the second question is how far must the city go to meet
the demand. She stated that if Council decides it must add more
field capacity, it must decide the best way to add capacity and
lighting is only one way. She stated that it is Council's
responsibility to enhance and protect the character of the community
and not make a decision that would be a detriment to the
community. She felt that there are other ways to add capacity by
adding green space, which would enhance the community, whether
that be Friendly Marsh, Resurrection Cemetery, Freeway Road or
wherever. She stated that if Council decided that lights are the only
way to solve the problem, then the lights should be installed instead
at Sibley, since school fields are the first places that are lit in most
communities and it could be used year round.
Councilmember Huber stated that Council does need to think about
the precedent that lighting would set. He noted that comments have
v been made tonight regarding preference of youth over adult play, but
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stated that he does not support hat position and does not want to be
put in the position of having to choose. He stated that he would
have a very hard time throwing the adult teams out of Mendakota to
let the youth use the fields. He felt that Council needs to solve the
problem, not by favoring one group over another but by trying to
accommodate both groups. He stated that Council needs more
information and have the MHAA information stratified by age to see
where the program is going, and to get statistics on the 10 to 14 year
olds in order to match up the youths to the fields. He informed
Council and the audience that he visited Lorraine Park in South St.
Paul, which was just lit. He explained that the lights are turned off
at about 10:20 and there was definitely some overlap of light to the
homes in the area. He reviewed the impact of the lights on nearby
homes and stated that he would like to go to a complex where all
four fields are lit. He encouraged everyone who has an interest in
the issue to go out and look at light fields. Councilmember Huber
pointed out that Council needs to get the facts from the police
department on calls it has received and it must also get the facts on
need. He stated that Mendakota Park is a community park and he
does not think it is financially viable to acquire land and build more
fields. He felt that future demand will have to be absorbed at
Mendakota Park, which may mean lights or which may mean
t j putting on city staff to coach teams so that they can start earlier. He
was not in favor of saying no to adult teams or to the youth who
have outgrown other fields.
Councilmember Smith stated that she was disappointed to find
through all of the discussions that the data and the conclusions from
the data are inconclusive. She further stated that there are no
definite conclusions or even any agreement on the data, which leads
her to conclude that she could not support lights at this time. She
pointed out that once a decision is made for lighting it cannot be
taken back and before Council even gets to that point it must
consider the land use issue. She felt that whatever standards are
developed must be applicable across the community, to the school
district or any other facilities. She pointed out that once people see
lights one place Council would have a very difficult time justifying a
negative decision for others - Council must define the parameters
and find something that would be acceptable to the community. She
felt that a decision on lights at this time would limit Council's
options.
Councilmember Smith stated that it is her understanding that cost
figures for a new complex were based on a park similar to
Mendakota, but that would not necessarily be required to meet the
current needs. She felt that there is a big difference in circumstances
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between what was shown on the lighting video and the present
situation - in the video people had a bad situation that was made
better, but in Mendota Heights' case there are no lights and people
would be going from not having lights to lighted fields and the
neighborhood would be giving something up. She felt that Council
must continue to look for a solution, which perhaps would not come
as soon as people would like.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the problem is not going to go away
and while he understands the concerns of the neighboring residents,
Council must determine what the city's obligation is. He stated that
MHAA claims that 70 coaches volunteer twelve hours each week,
which calculates to $8400 in cost to the city if it took over the
program. He stated that Council does not want the MHAA program
to fall apart and must be careful how the problem is solved. He
asked MHAA to explore all options and stated that he will contact
the school district, West St. Paul and Eagan about field use. He
pointed out that the school district is obligated to share the fields
within the district. He stated that Council is looking at how it can
increase field capacity without spending a great deal of money or
going to a bond issue and must realistically look at what the options
are. He informed the audience that Council will not make a decision
tonight, and as far as he is concerned will continue in 1996 and into
1997 exploring the use of the fields that currently exist.
Councilmember Koch asked how many Mendota Heights children
play in programs offered by other communities.
Dr. Norton responded that he can get the statistics for Council. He
stated that MHAA has joint efforts with West St. Paul, that Sibley
area fast pitch is done through West St. Paul but is mostly Mendota
Heights Girls, but that West St. Paul is unwilling to share its boys
hockey program. He informed Council that he is currently working
with Eagan and West St. Paul for a 90 foot field for the children over
age 13. He stated that all MHAA wants is more fields to play and
does not care where they come from.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would be interested in
having Parks Project Manager Kullander doing a study on how
feasible some of the possible fields are.
Councilmember Huber asked how Council will continue. He stated
that Mr. Black made some good comments and has placed the onus
on MHAA and adult softball representatives to make a case. He
stated that Council has asked Dr. Norton for additional information
and some of that may spill over to adult softball. He volunteered to
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work with Dr. Norton and the softball representatives to try to take
the information they have and try to help them put it into a
presentation that would be more informative on how teams match up
with field sizes and how many children are at each age. He stated
that the loudest message heard this evening is that there has been no
case made for need.
Councilmember Krebsbach pointed out the importance of keeping
the MHAA a viable organization.
Councilmember Koch stated that it almost sounds as if Council is
disregarding the task force information but that is not the case. She
stated that Council is asking for factual information but must be
specific on what it is asking for. She informed the audience that just
because she would not vote for lights tonight does not mean she will
never vote for them. She stated that Council must get answers to the
very specific questions and must continue the dialogue.
Councilmember Smith stated that her disappointment is not with the
task force but that the process did not give Council a resolution to
the problem.
RECESS Mayor Mertensotto called a recess at 11:03 p.m. The meeting was
reconvened at 11:17 p.m.
Councilmember Koch was excused from the meeting.
SUBWAY OUTDOOR EATING Council acknowledged a memo from Administrative Intern Hollister
in regard to a request from Mr. Curt Heller, owner of the Mendota
Plaza Subway, for authorization to place six tables with four chairs
each immediately outside of the Subway for his customers. Mr.
Heller was present for the discussion.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that when Ziggy's made the same request,
the issue was whether Council should consider amending the
shopping center's conditional use permit. He informed Mr. Heller
that Council instead granted Ziggy's a temporary, experimental
permit to allow outdoor seating until October 15`h. He explained that
Council told Ziggy's owner that if there were any complaints or
there is any debris resulting from the outdoor seating, or if people
are not able to walk in front of the stores, Council would terminate
the permit. He asked how Mr. Heller's request would work out
physically and whether seating would be under the canopy.
Mr. Heller responded that the tables would be under the canopy,
about two feet from the edge of the sidewalk. He stated that people
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will be able to walk on the sidewalk, as it is very wide. He informed
Council that the demand for outdoor seating is tremendous and that
he did not want to provide outdoor seating because of the associated
problems, the pressure has been too great since Ziggy's has had
tables on the sidewalk.
Councilmember Huber stated that he has been at the Plaza several
times in the evening, and there are often a number of tables open
outside of Ziggy's.
Mr. Heller stated that there is a period of the day on Saturday when
there are many families with children who would use the outside
tables and also they would be used at lunch time. He explained that
the tables would be taken inside in the evening. He informed
Council that there are only 30 seats inside the store and they are
taken up over lunch time and additional seating is needed.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked Mr. Heller how he plans to
manage refuse, such as wrappings dropped outside. She stated that
refuse is a big concern.
Mr. Heller responded that he shares the concern and that he will
have to have people monitoring the area and picking up wrappings
that are dropped.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that if Council chose to grant the request,
Mr. Heller would have to agree to the same conditions that were
imposed on Ziggy's. He stated that Council would reserve the right
to revoke the permit, independent of the Ziggy's permit, if the city
receives any complaints. He explained that revocation of either
permit, Ziggy's or Subway's, would be independent from the permit
for the other. He suggested that Council could grant an
experimental, temporary permit to Subway with the same conditions
as Ziggy's and sunseting on October 15. He informed Mr. Heller
that he would have to understand that Council reserves the right to
terminate the permit upon complaint independent of whether the
Ziggy's outdoor eating remains.
Mr. Heller responded that he will do everything possible to keep
refuse to a minimum and will provide a trash container outside.
Councilmember Huber asked what the representation is on how
much walking space there will be between the tables and the
building.
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Mr. Heller responded that the walking space would be between the
pillars and the tables, and the tables will be up against the building
as close as possible.
Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that the letter of agreement between
Subway and Paster Enterprises permits outdoor seating from May 1
through October 31 each year, but Council does not care what
agreement there is with Paster Enterprises. He stressed that the
permit would be granted on an experimental basis only and not on a
year -to -year basis.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to grant a temporary
experimental permit to Subway to allow six tables outside of the
store with the same conditions imposed on Ziggy's and with the
understanding that Council can deal with the Subway permit
independent of the Ziggy's permit and that the permit can be
terminated separately on any violation of the conditions imposed.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 96 -18, NSP Council acknowledged an application from NSP for conditional use
permits for essential services and mining to allow the removal of one
of three existing transformers from the NSP substation near
Mendakota Park and to add three capacitor banks and a control
house at the site, and to excavate and replace part of an existing
fence. Council also acknowledged an associated report from
Administrative Intern Hollister. The following individuals were
present on behalf of NSP: Dave Callahan, Pat Cline, Sheldon
Silberman and Joe Mansur.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council is mainly concerned about
the noise that is generated by the substation, and further that there is
no current restriction on how many kilowatts NSP can operate on
that line. He asked what the current capacity is.
Mr. Callahan responded that there are two voltages now, 69 kV to
the east, west and south, and 115 kV to the north. He informed
Council that no line in the substation exceeds 115kV.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he has mentioned many times that the
city should adopt an ordinance to stipulate that NSP must notify the
city and the city must hold a public hearing if NSP intends to
increase the W. He stated that the school district is going to raise
its power poles twenty feet because of EMF and right now there is
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no restriction or requirement for notification if NSP increases the
power.
Mr. Callahan responded that to go from 115 to a higher voltage,
NSP would have to modify the lines because the existing lines will
not carry a higher voltage. He explained that the next step is 230
kV, and that NSP uses 11 RV for all of its substations in the metro
area. He stated that lines that carry a higher voltage are region -to-
region lines.
Mayor Mertensotto asked what plan NSP has to replace the existing
towers.
Mr. Callahan responded that there are currently wood poles on the
site and one line is a "y" shaped structure that was an experiment.
He stated that the cost to rebuild lines is so expensive that NSP
would not replace them unless they are seriously deteriorated, and
unless the structures reach a point where it is felt that they are not
adequate they would not be replaced.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that there are some old poles coming in
from the west and there are two new ones that go across the
Mendakota Park area, and the ones parallel to Wagon Wheel going
through Friendly Hills are very old. He asked how much more noise
will be generated at the substation.
Mr. Callahan reviewed overhead transparencies showing the location
plan for the substation. He stated that there are currently two 11 5k
transformers and one 69 kV transformer at the substation and NSP
plans to convert the complete substation to 115 kV so that the 69kV
will be removed. He explained that there would then only be two
transformers, and that the 69 kV unit is the noisiest. He anticipated
that there would be a two dB reduction in sound. He stated that
three capacitor bank units will be added for stabilization and they do
not generate noise. He informed Council that the grade of the site is
not flat, so it is proposed that a sheet pile retaining wall be installed
and that the area be excavated flat to the fence. He stated that the
115 kV line from the east terminates in one location and it must be
rerouted and terminated in from the north so three steel poles are
needed. He explained that the three towers that will be installed are
directly related to rerouting the line.
Mayor Mertensotto asked where the power comes from. He also
asked if the proposed project will improve reliability of power for
Mendota Heights.
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Mr. Silberman responded that the substation brings together several
lines and each is a source. He stated that NSP believes the service
will be improved, as the proposed work is part of a project to
increase power transmission to a broad area.
Mayor Mertensotto asked what the decibel reading on site from the
transformers is now.
Mr. Silberman responded that readings have not been taken in the
substation, but they decrease with distance.
Mayor Mertensotto asked what distance the 2 dB reduction was
from the source.
Mr. Silberman responded that NSP has submitted readings from 12
sites as well as the high and low readings, and the 2 dB reduction is
hypothesized from those points.
Mayor Mertensotto asked if the steel sheeting will be coated so noise
will not bounce of the wall.
Mr. Callahan responded that NSP is looking at just driving steel
j pilings in a zigzag configuration and the sheet piling will not be
coated. He stated that NSP does not feel that the wall will be a
contributing factor, but if the noise readings after installation show
that it does contribute to the noise level, NSP will resolve it. He
stated that NSP does not feel that the wall is significant in sound
reflection, but it will take after readings and will take remedial
action if the wall makes any contribution to the sound.
Mayor Mertensotto asked if it would not be better to treat the wall
before hand and whether NSP has any data which would indicate
that there will not be noise bouncing off the wall. He pointed out
that there is no wall now and that steel is a hard surface that will not
absorb noise.
Mr. Silberman responded that the wall does not have any
opportunity to reflect the sound, as it is only 12 feet high and about
200 square feet of surface area. He stated that if it is found that the
wall amplifies the noise, NSP could put an acoustical deadening
material on the wall or install an acoustically treated wall in the
neighborhood of the transformer.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that there is a certain amount of sound that
comes from the substation now and pointed out that Mn/DOT puts
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up sound walls to deaden the noise from concrete highways. He
asked what NSP's cost estimate if for remediation.
Mr. Silberman responded that he did not look into the estimate
because NSP does not feel it is necessary.
Mr. Callahan stated that the noise readings were supervised by the
MPCA and there will be after readings. He further stated that NSP
must meet the MPCA criteria for thresholds and if NSP meets the
MPCA sound standards, that is all it can go by. He explained that
the MPCA has a procedure for measuring the sound, and that is what
NSP has used to make its projections. He stated that in addition, the
Planning Commission asked that NSP take readings within thirty
days after construction to insure that there is no problem, and if a
problem is detected NSP will take remedial action.
Councilmember Smith stated that it is one thing to have a level of
reading for an event and another to have a constant noise at a certain
level. She asked if there is a distinction in the PCA guidelines.
Mr. Silberman responded that there are two parts to the guidelines -
there is an L10 reading and an L50 reading. He stated that those are
{ j day time and night time standards, that means that sound exceeds a
level 10% of the time. He stated that NSP has not provided the L50
readings because more than 50% of the time the sound is level.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Smith, Mr. Callahan
stated that the readings were taken from twelve sites, and L50
readings were taken at each site.
Mr. Silberman stated that as you move north, the readings get lower,
and that it is heard to get readings at the site because of all the other
factors, including all of the planes flying overhead. He explained
that the information provided to the city gives the highest reading
found and the lowest reading found at any of the sites.
Councilmember Smith pointed out that there are intermittent periods
where readings could be taken without noise from planes, etc.
Mr. Silberman stated that the PCA sets the guidelines on how
measurements are taken and NSP has no options.
Councilmember Smith stated that if the readings were taken over a
period of time there would be a greater disparity between the low
and the high readings. She also pointed out that at one point the day
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time readings were 42 for a low and 53 for a high whereas they were
50 and 52 at night when fewer planes would be present.
Mr. Silberman responded that the night readings were taken at sites
3, 8 and 11 and the night time data was taken all night long at sites
that were deemed to be the most noisy. He informed Council that
the data was presented to the city in summary form because that was
what was asked for, but it can be presented in a different fashion if
Council desires.
Councilmember Huber pointed out that there is one reading in the
west that appears to be out of compliance. He asked what NSP will
do if it is still out of compliance after construction.
Mr. Silberman responded that he feels that the screen wall on the
west side will give a 3 to 5 dB drop in addition to removing the
sound source from the transformer that will be removed.
Councilmember Huber stated that the readings are at the limit of the
PCA standard.
Mr. Silberman responded that the 52dB reading was taken one hour
out of the night.
Mrs. Jann Blesener asked how atmospheric conditions affect the
noise. She stated that sometimes the noise is more intense than
other times.
Mr. Silberman responded that the density of the air would have a
minimal impact on sound transmission, but wind is a factor.
Councilmember Huber stated that an L10 reading would be higher
but the neighbors are dealing with the noise level all of the time. He
further stated that the readings are barely in compliance with the
standards, and if readings were taken all of the time they would
probably not comply.
Mr. Silberman responded that the transformer produces a low
frequency sound which is very tonal, and at that frequency, for
instance at 848 Mendakota Court, the day time readings at 120 hertz
show the maximum reading of 40.5 dB.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that it does not make a difference if NSP
met the standard if it is obtrusive. He pointed out that NSP is going
to spend $4 million for the station, and it is being cavalier about the
noise. He informed the NSP representatives that Council hears
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j complaints about low grade sound level coming off of the substation
all of the time. He stated that there must be ways of diffusing the
noise, and that coating the steel wall would be the very minimum.
He stated that a positive attitude would be that NSP is going to do
everything possible to reduce the noise both in landscaping and
sound attenuation.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that it would have been helpful to
have the readings by site.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Smith, Mr. Callahan
showed overheads on the location of the new poles. He explained
that NSP proposes to raise the berm where the transformers and had
talked about raising the other berm as well but fill would need to be
imported. He stated that it was felt that if NSP could trade the
berming for more trees and landscaping around the perimeter of the
substation, it would pursue entirely landscaping the wall on the west
side with plantings and arborvitae on the east side to equalize the
screening around the substation. He further stated that on the west
side, the landscaping gap will be closed to provide sound reduction,
and on the south side the berm will be extended. On the east,
arborvitae will be planted to close the landscaping gap and the 12
foot wall and screening on the south will give continuous screening
all around.
Mrs. Blesener stated that there already is a wall, and she did not
think the new wall will be seen from the Eide Addition. She
informed Council that the wall can't be seen from that area now.
She stated that part of the reason the noise goes to the north and
northwest now is because it bounces off the existing wood wall.
Mr. Silberman stated that the highest point of the wall, at the
northeast corner, will be about 12 feet tall and will not be any higher
than the bottom of the existing fence. He explained that a chain link
fence will remain above the wall and the only place the sheet pile
wall will be visible, from the west, will be addressed with
landscaping.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he is not satisfied that everything
possible has been done to attenuate noise.
Ms. Blesener stated that NSP has done a very good job with the
landscaping and berm, and the screen on the west will help reduce
noise to the west, but she was concerned that the residences to the
north and northwest will get noise over the wall. She further stated
that she did not know there would be such a noise impact when her
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home was built. She did not think that NSP has done everything
possible to mitigate noise but that it is good to hear that perhaps
NSP can do something closer to the source if the steel wall does not
help.
Mayor Mertensotto asked if NSP used any outside acoustical
consultants.
Mr. Silberman responded that NSP had an acoustical engineer, Dave
Braslau, speak to Ms. Blesener a number of years ago, and Mr.
Braslau looked at a berming solution at that time between the north
and the substation. He informed Council that NSP also looked at
changing out the equipment but that was not economically feasible.
He stated that NSP first made its proposal, it proposed to do more
than is required and has tried to be positive, and landscaping has
been improved at the request of the city.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that he feels Council should retain an
independent review to see what can be done about the sound. He
asked Administrator Batchelder to explore acoustical expertise.
Mr. Callahan responded that one thing NSP is up against is that it is
trying to convert the 15 kV so it can get meet the electrical demand
for the 1997 summer load. He stated that in order to do that, NSP
must get going on the revamp of the substation. He stated that it is
difficult for NSP, when its representatives feel they have met the
city's own standards and have added other things to improve the
sound emissions and still has to face a delay.
Mayor Mertensotto informed Mr. Callahan that Council is very
sensitive to noise. He explained the air noise impact and the impact
of freeway noise, and stated that perhaps the city's standards are not
appropriate. He asked the NSP representatives to give Council the
opportunity to discuss all possibilities that might be economically
feasible to reduce the noise impact.
Councilmember Huber pointed out that NSP is currently failing the
standard at one location at night and close to failing the standards
overall.
Mr. Callahan responded that this is why NSP had MPCA assist them
so that there would be an independent review.
Councilmember Smith pointed out that on a collective basis,
Council must determine whatever noise impacts are realized and
Council's position must be in the best interest of the community.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
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Administrator Batchelder informed Council that the 60 day
application review ends on July 13, and if Council tables the matter,
the application must be extended to 120 days based on additional
information requirements.
Councilmember Huber moved to extend the application to 120 days,
with direction to staff to determine the availability of an acoustical
engineer to review the plans.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Mr. Silberman asked for clarification on what additional information
Council wishes.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council is desirous of independent
review of the project, including other options for sound attenuation.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would like a chart of the
readings comparing day and evening readings.
PERSONNEL Council acknowledged a memo from Fire Chief Maczko requesting
authorization to retain Diane Ward as Fire Department secretary to
train a successor and continue secretarial work until as replacement
is found.
Administrator Batchelder stated that Ms. Ward would like to be able
to assist Chief Maczko, but the city has a problem of keeping
someone as an employee after resignation. He stated that Diane
would like to stay on as an independent contractor.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the city cannot accept a resignation
and then keep an employee on. He was concerned about continued
benefits and workers' compensation and other issues.
Administrator Batchelder suggested that since Ms. Ward's
resignation has been accepted, the city could hire her as a temporary
part-time employee without benefits.
Councilmember Huber moved to authorize staff to hire Diane Ward
as a temporary employee for up to ten hours per week for a period of
time not to exceed six weeks.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
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NOISE TOUR Council acknowledged a memo from Administrator Batchelder
regarding a proposed joint Council/Airport Relations Commission
bus tour of noise impacted areas.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to conduct a special meeting at
7:00 p.m. on July 10 for Council to meet with the Airport Relations
Commission for the purpose of a city tour of noise impacted areas.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
EXCESS RIGHT-OF-WAY Mayor Mertensotto informed Council that he has spoken to Keith
Slater, Mn/DOT Right-of-Way Engineer, about the excess right-of-
way turn back for T.H. 55 and also the AT&T lease. He stated that
Mr. Slater indicated that he has received no official request.
Councilmember Huber moved to direct Administrator Batchelder to
notify Mn/DOT in writing that Council by motion has requested that
Mn/DOT commence action to turn back to the city the excess T.H.
55 right-of-way from Northland Drive to I-35E.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
COUNCIL COMMENTS Councilmember Krebsbach stated that motorists are using Victoria
Curve as a shortcut and it has become very dangerous. She stated
that she recently saw a near-miss of a motorist who nearly hit two
children who were walking along the road. She felt that a trail along
Victoria Curve would alleviate the problems and avoid the potential
for someone getting injured.
Councilmember Smith responded that the problem is that the
frontage road is a through street now rather than just a road servicing
the neighborhood.
Engineer Mogan was directed to prepare a report on the cost and
feasibility of a pedway.
ADJOURN
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
ATTEST:
Charles E. Mertensotto,
Mayor
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July 2, 1996
There being no finther business to come before the Council,
Councilmember Huber moved that the meeting be adjourned.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 12:45 o'clock A.M.
kathleen M. Swanson, City Clerk