1999-03-16 Council minutesPage No. 1
March 16, 1999
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, March 16, 1999
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, Minnesota was held at 7:30 o'clock p.m. at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights,
Minnesota.
Mayor Mertensotto called the meeting to order at 7:30 o'clock P.M. The following members were
present: Mayor Mertensotto, Councilmembers Dwyer, Huber, Krebsbach and Schneeman. Mayor
Mertensotto turned the chair over to Councilmember Dwyer.
AGENDA ADOPTION Councilmember Huber moved adoption of the revised agenda for the
meeting.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Mayor Mertensotto stated that the motion that was made regarding
the Civic Center ballfield improvements was misleading and that he
understood that the motion had been amended after discussion. He
stated that he would not have voted in the affirmative on the Civic
Center ballfield issue as the motion was stated. He stated that if
MHAA wants a permanent youth baseball field for youth aged 13
and under he has no problem with that, but he felt that it should be at
one of the other parks or at a school. He stated that he had
overlooked the Friendly Hills Middle School field as an option and
that he thinks it would be ideal for youth baseball because it is
designed for middle school aged children.. He suggested that the
city make a formal proposal to the school district asking them if they
would enter into a joint powers agreement to make the middle school
field a permanent youth baseball field.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that he would not vote to reconsider
the action taken on March 2 and that stating that he thinks the civic
center field is the appropriate place for the ballfield.
Councilmember Huber stated that there is a joint powers agreement
with the school district. The primary problem in terms of using the
fields at Henry Sibley High School is that the school district has
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control over use of the fields during the school year and MHAA does
not have the ability to use the fields until half of the baseball season
is over.
Councilmember Dwyer agreed, stating that the second part of the
problem is that the school district does not maintain the fields after
school is out.
Councilmember Huber stated that he does not have a problem with
approaching the school district with a proposal but if the city
improves the field at the middle school, the city must control it from
the start of the season into June.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that one of the reasons MHAA
likes the Civic Center site is because it is so easy for other teams to
find. She further stated that she feels it is a beautiful field and shows
off City Hall and it is good to see activity at the field. She felt that
MHAA would run into problems trying to give directions to the
middle school field to other teams.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the middle school field is bigger and
that he feels it is a much better site. He further stated that if he had
understood that the motion was not modified so that it would not be
a permanent field, he would have voted against the motion.
Councilmember Huber stated that he thought that what Council had
agreed to was to install a mound and get feedback from the softball
people. He also understood that the only way the city would not go
forward with the permanent improvements would be if Council
receives objection from the softball teams.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that the MHAA speaks on behalf of
youth softball and adult softball.
Parks Project Manager Guy Kullander informed Council that the
original plan for the middle school field was for a 275 foot outfield
but that he does not know how it was constructed.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would like to have the
decision from the last meeting stand. Council's decision was a two -
stage decision, to put the mound in and then, after the season, add
the other improvements after the season. Should Council determine
after the season that it was not a good decision, then Council could
pursue the Civic Center site.
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Councilmember Schneeman stated that City Attorney Hart had
informed Council during the discussion that if it is determined in the
future that the ballfield site is needed for City Hall expansion, there
would be'no legal problem associated removing the field (because of
the use of Special Park funds for the improvements).
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he would never have voted for the
motion if he understood that the city would be making permanent
improvements to a site that is totally inadequate in size and has
inadequate parking. He stated that he wants to change his vote on
the issue so that it is on record that he voted against permanent
improvements to the field.
Mayor Mertensotto moved to change his vote to the negative on the
March 2 motion with respect to Civic Center ballfield improvements.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 1 Dwyer
Councilmember Schneeman moved approval of the minutes of the
regular meeting held on March 2, 1999 with corrections.
Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Abstain: Krebsbach
CONSENT CALENDAR Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of the consent calendar
for the meeting, revised to move items 5g, completion of Police
Chief's probationary period, 5I, Fire Station improvements, and 5p,
appointment to Metropolitan Council, to the regular agenda, along
with authorization for execution of any necessary documents
contained therein.
a. Acknowledgement of the minutes of the minutes of the February
26, 1999 NDC -4 meeting and agenda.
b. Acknowledgment of the Fire Department monthly report for
February.
c. Acknowledgment of the Treasurer's monthly report for February.
d. Acknowledgment of the AMM Bill Tracking Report Index.
e. Acknowledgment of. a memo regarding tax increment financing
use for park and civic center projects.
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f. Approval of the Senior Secretary position description dated
March 16, 1999.
g. Authorization for the issuance of a temporary liquor license to
the Beth Jacob Congregation for Sunday, May 2, 1999 from 6:00
P.M. to 9:00 P.M.
h. Adoption of Resolution No. 99 -09, "A RESOLUTION
AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF DEFIBRILLATOR
AGREEMENT."
i. Approval of the issuance of a purchase order to Mike McPhillips,
Inc. for 1999 street sweeping for its low bid of $61.50 per hour.
j. Approval of the issuance of 3.2 Off -Sale Non - Intoxicating Malt
Liquor Licenses to Tom Thumb Food Market #264, Speedway
Super America Group # 4516 and #4521, and the issuance of a
3.2 On -Sale Malt Liquor License to Mendota Heights Par 3.
k. Acknowledgment of a reminder of the April 6, 1999 Board of
Review meeting.
1. Approval of the list of contractor licenses dated March 16, 1999
and attached hereto.
m. Approval of the List of Claims dated March 16, 1999 and
totaling $!34,631.22.
n. Approval of the probationary appointment of Linda Shipton as
Senior Secretary, effective on March 17, 1999 at Level E, Pay
Grade XI and to authorize staff to begin the recruitment process
to fill the vacant Utility Billing Clerk position.
Councihmmber Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
POLICE CHIEF APPOINTMENT Council acknowledged a memo from Administrator Batchelder
acknowledging Scott Johnson's successful completion of his
probationary period as Police Chief and recommending his
appointment to regular, full -time status.
Councilmember Dwyer acknowledged that Chief Johnson has
completed his one -year probation and that stated that Chief Johnson
has performed in an exemplary manner during that time.
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Councilmember Dwyer moved to acknowledge Police Chief Scott
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he does not feel there is justification
for upgrading the dispatch center as proposed because all of the
public safety dispatching is done at West St. Paul and the city is
participating in that upgrade. He also did not see the need for locked
mail slots. He also did not feel that a new locker room for female
firefighters does not have merit at this time since there are no female
firefighters on the department.
Councilmember Dwyer suggested that Fire Chief Maczko should
come before Council to explain his proposal.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to table the matter until such time
as Fire Chief Maczko can be present to answer Council questions.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Councilmember Schneeman stated that she went to look at the fire
station and feels that the improvements are necessary. She
recommended that the Councilmembers also go the fire station and
noted that no improvements have been made to the facility since it
was constructed.
METROPOLITAN COUNCIL Council acknowledged an excerpt from the March 8 -12 AMM Fax
APPOINTMENT News regarding appointments for Metropolitan Council district
representatives.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the Governor's nominating committee
has been set up to interview the candidates from each district. One
of the city's residents, Carl Cummins III, is on the list of candidates
who will be interviewed by the committee. He stated that Mr.
Cummins is the only District 15 candidate who has City Council
experience and that he would be an excellent representative. He
informed Council that Mr. Cummins would appreciate it if Council
Johnson's successful completion of his probationary period,
effective March 30, 1999 and to appoint Scott Johnson to regular,
full -time status effective March 30, 199 at an annual salary of
$64,568.
Mayor Mertensotto seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
FIRE STATION
Council acknowledged a memo from Fire Chief Maczko requesting
IMPROVEMENTS
approval to solicit bids for improvements at the fire station.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he does not feel there is justification
for upgrading the dispatch center as proposed because all of the
public safety dispatching is done at West St. Paul and the city is
participating in that upgrade. He also did not see the need for locked
mail slots. He also did not feel that a new locker room for female
firefighters does not have merit at this time since there are no female
firefighters on the department.
Councilmember Dwyer suggested that Fire Chief Maczko should
come before Council to explain his proposal.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to table the matter until such time
as Fire Chief Maczko can be present to answer Council questions.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Councilmember Schneeman stated that she went to look at the fire
station and feels that the improvements are necessary. She
recommended that the Councilmembers also go the fire station and
noted that no improvements have been made to the facility since it
was constructed.
METROPOLITAN COUNCIL Council acknowledged an excerpt from the March 8 -12 AMM Fax
APPOINTMENT News regarding appointments for Metropolitan Council district
representatives.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the Governor's nominating committee
has been set up to interview the candidates from each district. One
of the city's residents, Carl Cummins III, is on the list of candidates
who will be interviewed by the committee. He stated that Mr.
Cummins is the only District 15 candidate who has City Council
experience and that he would be an excellent representative. He
informed Council that Mr. Cummins would appreciate it if Council
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would send someone to the interview in his support. He stated that
Council has adopted a resolution endorsing Mr. Cummins and
suggested that Council again adopt an endorsement resolution. He
stated that Mr. Cummins is the only candidate who has municipal
background and experience, which is a valuable asset for a
Metropolitan Council district representative.
Mayor Mertensotto moved adoption of Resolution No. 99 -10,
"RESOLUTION ENDORSING CARL CUMMINS III FOR
APPOINTMENT TO THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL."
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that District 15 had forty
candidates for appointment and it is significant to be one of the five
candidates to be interviewed. She pointed out that in addition to his
eight years as a Councilmember, Mr. Cummins has also been the
head 'of the Higher Education Coordinating Board and has much
experience in addition to his Council experience. She asked that
each of Council's names be listed in the endorsement.
Council directed that the resolution be submitted to the nominating
committee by fax tomorrow and asked that Administrator Batchelder
attend the interview session and deliver the resolution to the
Committee to make the acknowledgment that Council has again
taken action to support Carl Cummins.
CASE NO. 99 -05, HOFFMAN Councilmember Dwyer opened the meeting for the purpose of a
HOMES public hearing on an application from Hoffinan Homes, Inc., for
comprehensive plan amendment, conditional use permit for planned
unit development, subdivision, and wetlands permit. Council
acknowledged associated staff reports. Mr. Peter Coyle, from Larkin
Hoffman law firm, and Mr. Pat Hoffman, from Hoffman Homes,
were present for the discussion.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that the application is for a 46
townhome development on a heavily wooded parcel west of
Resurrection Cemetery.
Mr. Coyle stated that his firm is the land use counsel for Hoffman
Homes. He stated that Hoffman Homes originally came before
Council with a proposal two years ago and has been working on the
proposed project for a couple of years. He expressed appreciation to
the Mayor and city staff for working with Hoffinan Homes, stating
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that he feels the project is a better project because of the input from
the city.
Mr. Coyle explained that is proposed to construct a 46 unit
townhome project on a 44 acre site, approximately 30 net buildable
acres, located at the northwest corner of the Resurrection Cemetery
property. None of the units will have backyard neighbors and all of
the units have been aligned on the site to give them a view of the
water front. Hoffman Homes has taken great pains to protect the
existing natural features of the site and will commit to a conservation
easement to the city in perpetuity to prohibit any cutting, mowing or
degradation of the natural features. Staggered setbacks of the units
provide a variation in the frontages, and the service road design
means people will only go past four of five units. The units are
designed for empty nesters, and Hoffinan Homes does not perceive
the project would be desirable for people with families and has
consciously designed the project to discourage those purchasers. He
anticipated that the units would be in the $300,000 price range. All
of the units will have brick and stucco all around, will have steep
pitch roof designs and varied offsets for the garages.
Mr. Coyle reviewed the staff reports and the issues raised by the
l Planning Commission. He informed Council that Hoffinan Homes
has been in close and constant contact with the MAC and
Metropolitan Council regarding noise attenuation issues. The project
will at least, if not exceed, the noise reduction levels for Zones 3 and
4, and the technical consultant David Braslau, retained by the
Metropolitan Council has given his acceptance to the technical
design. He stated that he spoke to Chauncey Case from the
Metropolitan Council today and Mr. Case is anxiously awaiting
news that the City Council approves the comp plan amendment so
Hoffinan Homes can engage the Metropolitan Council in processing
the comprehensive plan amendment, which will allow the
Metropolitan Council to discuss and hopefully amend its aviation
element that talks about multi - family dwellings in noise zones.
He stated that the second issue that he wants to confirm with Council
is that the access proposed continues to be from T.H. 13 on the west
side, which is the location that Mn/DOT favors. Mn/DOT would not
support alignment of the access with T.H. 110. Hoffman Homes has
submitted a draft conservation easement to protect the lakefronts to
city staff today and will work with staff to be sure that it protects the
city's interest as well as the interest of the property owners. Outlot
B will be a passive open space site, where a gazebo is proposed to be
located.' He explained that Hoffman Homes will apply for a permit
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for the gazebo at the time Hoffinan Homes is ready to proceed with
it.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that Council has not yet received a
copy of the conservation easement. He noted that the Planning
Commission has recommended that it be filed as a deed on each of
the individual titles.
Mr. Coyle responded that this is what Hoffman Homes did and also
has no objection to the city being a parry to the document.
Mayor Mertensotto asked why the easement cannot run from the
developer to the city. If this were done, the document can be
referenced on each of the deeds. He stated that the city wants an
overall conservation easement and that there is no way that Council
would want there to be public access to Lake Augusta and the lake
should never be made open by way of an easement.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that the easement would be between
the developer and the city, and that Council intends to take the same
line as Hoffman Homes. Both Council and Hoffman Homes agree
with the recommendation that access to the lake is not something
either favors. He pointed out that Council wants to preserve and
enhance the aesthetics.
Responding to a Council question, Mr. Hoffman stated that he
proposes to place the easement on most of the green space along
Lake Augusta and Lake Lemay and even to a pond in the northwest
area. The easement is to protect the lake, the slope and the
vegetation. He stated that he would envision the easement will
surround the property.
Mayor Mertensotto expressed concern about the drainage easements.
Councilmember Krebsbach noted that the Planning Commission
recommended that the outlots be removed and the lot lines be
extended.
Mr. Coyle responded that Hoffman Homes prefers that the property
be kept as outlots because Hoffman Homes does not want to burden
the property owners with unusable property so that would be taxed.
Hoffinan Homes prefers that the homeowners' association own the
outlots to avoid the burden to individual property owners.
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Mayor Mertensotto stated that the Ivy Falls townhouse development
in the city, constructed several years ago, has outlots owned by the
homeowners' association and the home owners must contribute
annually to cover the cost of insurance and taxes. The members are
paying increased insurance and taxes and some are now saying that
they will let the land go tax forfeit and the members of the
association are fighting with each other.
Mr. Coyle responded that he misstated the proposal, stating that the
intent of the developer is to deed 1/46"' interest to each of the outlots
to each of the lots.
Mr. Hoffman stated that his experience with Dakota County is that
there is concern with tax forfeiture and they have if the equal
portions of the outlots are distributed to each of the lots, there is no
option to have the outlots taxed separately.
Mayor Me rtensotto responded that he would have no problem with
the approach.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that if it can be worked out in the
manner Mr. Hoffman proposed he would be agreeable, but Council
1 is not interested in outlots unless each of the lots receives a portion
of the outlots.
Mr. Coyle informed Council that Hoffman Homes disagrees with the
Planning Commission and would prefer to retain the outlot design.
Hoffman Homes also disagrees with public access to Lake Augusta.
There was discussion has to whether there would be lakeside public
access, and Hoffinan Homes has committed to working on an
overlook off the public trail.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked Mr. Coyle if he would speak to the
Parks and Recreation Commission's opposition to the plan and their
interest in more dedicated park space.
Mr. Coyle responded that Hoffman Homes discussed with the
Commission the question about providing an informal landing area
for someone who may want to put a canoe into the water, but
Hoffinan disagreed with the Commission. He stated that
Resurrection Cemetery would not agree to public access and that
Hoffinan Homes is also trying to protect the terrain and does not
want to undo the protection that is proposed by opening an access to
the lake.
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Mr. Hof man stated that the Parks Commission was not interested in
developing features on the north end of the lake and that if anything
were provided it should be an overlook from the trail. He stated that
the Commission did not have unanimous approval and passed
another motion saying they would like to get as much park land, a
small access on the north end, the area near the peninsula between
Lake Lemay and Lake Augusta, with the idea that maybe they could
get some of the peninsula in the future.
Mayor Mertensotto expressed concern that the peninsula could be
split up. He stated that Augusta is not a public lake to begin with
and the last thing the cemetery wants is to open the lake to public
use.
Mr. Hoffinan responded that the Park Commission consensus was
that they did not want to open it up to canoes and that his response
was, that he is not providing any docks or any access from his
development.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Krebsbach about
whether there is an adequate buffer to the highway, Mr. Hoffinan
stated that Mn/DOT between the Mn/DOT right -of -way and the
service road, there is a substantial setback to the property. He did
not understand the Commission's concern about the buffer. He stated
that the Commission was apparently interested in removal o some of
the units, and there was discussion about expanding the park land but
there was no agreement.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Schneeman
regarding the overlook proposed by the Park Commission, Mr.
Hoffman stated that it appears to him that it would be in the open
and there would be nothing to see, but he would be willing to do
whatever the city recommends.
Councilmember Huber stated that he does not like the Park
Commission's motion regarding park dedication. He stated that this
development is relatively removed from the rest of the city and the
developer might very well want to create some walking space for the
residents who live there. He further stated that he is not sure that
would suffice as a park dedication to the city that the city would not
partake in. The pedway would not serve any public purpose.
Mayor Mertensotto agreed, stating that this could also be a public
j safety issue. He pointed out that this is a secluded area like the
Rogers Lake trail and people are concerned about walking there
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except in a group.. He felt that the police department should review
the proposal for public safety issues.
Mr. Coyle stated that the developer is providing a linkage to the
areas staff recommends and would extend the trail from the Hoffinan
plat. The city would construct a link to future city bike trails.
Mr. Hoffman stated that at the request of the city, Hoffinan Homes is
providing area for north and south trail access. He felt that it would
be an amenity to the people who live in his development, but the
question of the Park Commission was whether the trail is public or
private. He informed Council that he plans to construct the trail now
so that he can avoid a fight with the property owners in the future
when the city may want to make it public. He committed to putting
the trail in to his property line.
Councilmember Krebsbach commented that at least the public would
have access to the trail and it also leaves the trail open to connection
trail if there is future development in the area.
Mr. Hoffinan stated that the city must take a look at the overall trail
system and if the trail would go nowhere it would be pointless to
construct it.
Administrator Batchelder noted that there is a city trail on the north
side of the frontage road, and.the proposed trail could be extended
across the Mn/DOT property to the city trail.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that addition study must be done before
approval can be given on the project because there are too may
questions that must be resolved.
Councilmember Huber stated that he would like to see how much of
an offset this is in terms of park dedication and that he would like to
know what the city is getting. He agreed that Council needs further
information.
Mayor Mertensotto asked how much brick and how much stucco
there will be on the units so that Council knows what is being
proposed and also so that there will be no change from what Council
is shown.
Mr. Hoffinan reviewed an architect's rendering, stating that the units
will have all -brick fronts and that the sides and backs will be full
stucco. He showed elevations of the structures, stating that there will
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be no siding material other than brick and stucco. The stucco will be
warm sand in color, the windows will be terratone, the soffits will be
ivory and the brick color will be canyon mist. He stated that all of
this information should be put into the developer's agreement and
that he will commit to them.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he is concerned about noise
attenuation and that the city should be innovative. He stated that he
would like to know what the decibel reduction will be, from the
exterior to the interior, because of the design that is being used. He
asked how the units will be vented. He stated that when the aircraft
come over, vents pick up the noise and amplify it. He informed Mr.
Hoffinan that the city must be proactive on the issue. He pointed out
that people can go into the Mn/DOT facility and not hear any
aircraft. To eliminate the noise requires a certain design. He stated
that he would like to know what the decibel level will be inside the
structures, which is why he would like to talk to Mr. Braslau. He
pointed out that the Part 150 program just tries to reach a 5%
reduction.
Mr. Hoffinan stated that he is working on a 30 Dba reduction. The
units will be noise zones 3 and 4, most being in zone 4. Noise Zone
3 construction requires 30 Dba, and zone 4 requires 25 Dba.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that a condition of approval could be
that Hoffinan Homes represents to the city what the Dba would be
inside the units and that would be a warranty to the city.
Mr. Hoffman responded that the Metropolitan Council has set the
initial criteria and he agrees that the inside level must be known.
The Metropolitan Council will not sign off on the project unless
Hoffman Homes can show proof of the right noise reduction.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council is not interested in what the
reduction is but rather is concerned about the Dba inside the units.
Council wants to know that people will be able to carry on a
conversation when aircraft go over their homes.
Mr. Coyle responded that Mr. Braslau told the developers that this
project is actually overdesigned. Hoffman Homes volunteered to be
the guinea pig two years ago for noise reduction — that was Hoffinan
Homes' commitment two years ago and it remains the commitment
tonight.,
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Mayor Mertensotto stated that he thinks the concern on street grade
by some members of the Planning Commission is a very legitimate
concern. He further stated that there is no way he could buy into a 7-
8% grade.
Mr. Coyle responded that there is no grade issue on the access way
and Hoffinan Homes is trying to work the grades out with city staff.
Councilmember Dwyer asked Mr. Coyle if he can give Council
assurance that the grade will not be 8 %.
Mr. Coyle responded that he will give that assurance.
The project's design engineer stated that the plan shows a 6.6%
grade through the intersection with T.H. 13. Hoffman Homes would
like to have an 8% grade in portions of the roadway. He stated that
the grade will be flattened out to about 4 or 5% at the intersection.
Public Works Director Danielson informed Council that there will be
no homes constructed along the segment of the road that is proposed
at 8 %, and that the developer has been working with City Engineer
Marc Mogan.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that if there are no homes along the 8%
grade Council does not need to worry about driveway access. He
asked why it cannot be flattened.
The engineer responded that flattening the grade would required
removal of trees and adding a retaining wall. He explained that all of
the grades that are proposed fall within engineering standards.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that she visited the site and there
is quite a steep ravine.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that another issue raised by the
Planning commission was who would do the improvements.
Hoffman Homes proposes to do the work and turn the improvements
over to the city. He stated that this has been done before but with
mixed results.
Mr. Hoffinan responded that he picks quality contractors and has
more control over timing and quality of the improvements but
understands the city's needs and is open to a city project.
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Mayor Mertensotto responded that the city must do the design work
and goes through the bid process.
Mr. Coyle stated that Hoffinan Homes would like to have the ability
to select the contractor through the bid process so that they can get a
contractor that Hoffinan Homes approves of
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if a lot more trees must be
removed because Hoffinan Homes shortened the cul -de -sacs, as
recommended by the city. She also asked if this is less of a secluded
development as a result.
Mr. Coyle responded that there is no question that as a result of
going to the separated access to reduce the length of the cul -de -sac
segments there is less seclusion. He stated that there would have
been less of a grade impact and less tree loss with the longer cul -de-
sacs originally proposed.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that the one thing she does not
want Council to do is appreciably affect the seclusion of the
development and that she does not want to take away one of the
main features of the site (the woods).
Councilmember Dwyer stated that it is his understanding that the
development will still be heavily wooded.
Mr. Hoffinan responded that it will be if he can accommodate the
slope'issue. He stated that he likes the feeling of the road because
there is still a grove around the entrance.
Responding to a question by Councilmember Huber, Mr. Hoffman
stated that Commissioner Friel had proposed that one of the lots
include the area from one of the outlots, and this could be done if the
city desires. He stated that he can accommodate the city however it
wishes. The goal is to protect the grades and the vegetation, prevent
tax forfeiture and prohibit future use of the outlots.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that he thought there was a tentative
agreement that there would be a 1/46"' allocation of the common area
to .each of the units provided that the city receives notification from
the county that the property would be taxed that way and the city
would not need to be concerned about tax forfeiture. He stated that
the home owners would be paying the tax bill for their property plus
1/46' of the outlot area.
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Mr. Hoffman responded that this would be his preference.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that there a conservation easement over
the outlots that runs in favor of the city might be a better way to go,
but he sees what Mr. Hoffman is trying to accomplish and his
proposal would eliminate the tax forfeit issue.
The City Attorney responded that the 1/46th allocation makes the
most sense to him.
Councilmember Dwyer asked for questions and comments form the
audience.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he supports the project if all of the
details can be worked out.
Park Commissioner Stan Linnell stated that the Park Commission
had discussed taking some of the land rather than the cash donation
of. He informed Council that he suggested a lake access or overlook
towards the north end of the project but the Commission felt that was
not appropriate. Towards the end of the discussion, the Commission
discussed that the land to the south might develop as industrial use
and the city could perhaps get some land as park dedication to
connect to this land. He did not know if it is zoned industrial but
assumed it is not residential. He stated that one of the Hoffinan
Homes drawings had a sidewalk and he could see the benefit of a
sidewalk to the residents of the development.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Dwyer, Mr. Coyle
stated that the trail system that is proposed is on the street.
Mr. Linnell stated that the path connections are the critical elements
and whether it is advisable for the city to acquire the peninsula for
open space.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that is where the city should look at a
potential pedway system. He stated that Council needs to take a look
at that issue — a detailed study needs to be done.
In response to a question from Councilmember Schneeman, Mr.
Coyle stated that he will find out how deep Lake Augusta is.
There being no further questions or comments from the audience,
Councilmember Huber moved that the hearing be closed.
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Counciimember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Councilmember Dwyer stated that the feeling of Council is that
Council is leaning strongly towards approval of the project but there
are some issues that need resolution: noise attenuation, trail system,
and City Attorney input on the outlot conservation easement issue.
Mr. Coyle asked for contingent approval this evening, contingent
upon resolution of Council's concerns. He stated that the formal
submittal was in February and that Hoffman Homes will waive any
time constraints. He stated that based on the comments from
Council and the Planning Commission, Hoffinan Homes must spend
considerable money to take care of Council's concerns about noise
and the Metropolitan Council's concerns about noise. He stated that
Hoffinan Homes needs something from Council so that they can get
Metropolitan Council review in motion. He explained that Hoffman
Homes must also do an archeological survey, and in order to make
such significant investments, the applicant needs some support form
the city.
Mr. Hoffinan stated that the Planning Commission recommended
i concept approval, and the plan has received support for the concept
by Council. He stated that the Metropolitan Council's objection has
been removed and he would like approval tonight subject to approval
of whatever details Council would like.
Mayor Mertensotto noted that Hoffinan Homes has applied for a
comprehensive plan amendment and rezoning. He pointed out that
the city would not have to change the zoning to residential. He
understood that Hoffman Homes will be spending considerable
money and needs to know if this is a viable project but that Council
cannot give approvals tonight. He stated that he must speak to David
Braslau to be sure that the groundwork Council lays by this project
will not be an impediment to development of future sites.
Mr. Coyle stated that part of the dilemma is that Hoffinan Homes
must go, through the Metropolitan Council process for
comprehensive plan amendment evaluation — the Metropolitan
Council is presuming that kind of application is coming to them.
Hoffman Homes has demonstrated its intention to work with the city
and the Metropolitan Council and is trying to achieve the best
practices design with the Metropolitan Council.
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Mayor Mertensotto responded that Council could give preliminary
approval for the design concept and PUD with a project limited to 46
units.
Mr. Coyle stated that at the same time Hoffman Homes works with
the Metropolitan Council on the noise issue, he hopes to make
ground on the Metropolitan Council comprehensive plan amendment
review, which is a two part process. He stated that if Hoffman
Homes has to go through the noise issue and then the comprehensive
plan issue they would be out of the construction season.
Mayor Mertensotto asked if Council can direct staff to file the an
official application for comprehensive plan amendment with the
Metropolitan Council.
Administrator Batchelder responded that Council would be acting on
the comprehensive plan amendment of the application and what
would remain would be the PUD for conditional use permit,
subdivision and wetlands permit.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that Hoffman Homes has a
timeframe to address.
Administrator Batchelder responded that if Council approves a
comprehensive plan amendment this evening and authorizes staff to
seek approval from the Metropolitan Council, the Metropolitan
Council would be obligated to respond to the city within a certain
timeframe.
Mayor Mertensotto moved to grant to Hoffman Homes preliminary
design concept for a planned unit development consisting of a
maximum of 46 residential units, proposed as shown on the
drawings before Council this evening, on the Hoffinan Homes site.
Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would like to further
define what the concept is.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that Hoffman Homes has made
representations to Council; they displayed the exhibit including brick
fronts and stucco and all of the other representations.
Mr. Coyle asked if Council is also going to approve the preliminary
plat this evening.
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Mayor Mertensotto responded in the negative, stating that Council
must set the basis for requesting the Metropolitan Council to approve
the comprehensive plan amendment.
Mr. Hoffinan stated that there are a number of the items that were
discussed tonight that Council is uncomfortable with in terms of
proceeding with the preliminary plan. The major issue will be
airport noise, and if he receives approval from the Metropolitan
Council, Mr. Hoffman stated that he will come back in short order so
that he can work with his bank on financing.
Mr. Hoffinan stated that there is a comfort level with the noise level,
and agreement has been reached on other issues, and Council has
given requirements which must be met in order to gain final plat
approval. He understood that preliminary plan approval gives
Council the opportunity to make changes in the final plat. He also
stated that Hoffinan Homes can address the technical issues in the
near future.
Mr. Hoffman stated that he will commit to paying for the trails and
forgetting the park credit. The grades can be changed from 3:1 to
2:1. The major problem is how to work with the Metropolitan
Council and MAC.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council is not at the point where it
can give preliminary plat approval but that Hoffinan Homes can
come before Council again whenever they are ready.
Councilmember Krebsbach reiterated the issues that have been
addressed, including: street layout, number of units, outlots, and
structures as shown in the drawings.
Councilmember Dwyer pointed out that if Hoffinan Homes changes
their minds when they come for final approval, Council could say
no. What was discussed and shown to Council this evening is the
basis for the preliminary approval, and Council is protected by using
the preliminary concept approach. He stated that Hoffinan Homes
will present to Council in final form what they have presented today,
which is on file with the city.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Mayor Mertensotto moved to direct staff to file a formal application
with the Metropolitan Council seeking comprehensive plan
amendment on the property that has been referred to as the Hoffman
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Homes site, to authorize the developer of that property to enter into
residential development consisting of no more than 45 residential
units with single entry.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
WENTWORTH PARK Council acknowledged a memo from Parks Project Manager
IMPROVEMENTS Guy Kullander regarding hockey rink paving and replacement of the
warming house in Wentworth Park.
Councilmember Dwyer reviewed the recommendation and prior
Council discussion on the issue. He stated that the question at that
time was how the improvements would be financing. The Parks
Commission has recommended that $80,000 be spent for the project
and that it be funded by the Special Park Fund. He acknowledged
drawings of the proposed 24 by 30 foot dual purpose structure.
Mr. Kullander stated that he presented the commission with a
concept to replace the warming house with a modified garage with
regular siding and doors but the commission wanted rock face block
in the design. That is why block piers and columns are used and
why there are cedar shingles.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he would support the rink paving but
that he has a problem with the combination activity /warming house.
The estimated cost is $42,000 for the structure, and he felt it is a
significant mistake to build a public structure for public use without
restroom facilities, especially if it is to be used in the winter.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that there are satellites in the
parks now.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Dwyer, Mr.
Kullander stated that it would cost $20,000+ to extend utilities into
the property plus another $10,000 for the bathrooms. He explained
that the proposed "caged" area is for storage of tables, etc., in the
summer.
Mayor Mertensotto asked why there are no walls rather then fencing.
Councilmember Dwyer asked whether there was any Park
Commission discussion about the absence of bathroom facilities.
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Mr. Kullander responded that the commission discussed similar
issues in the past but the cost to bring utilities into the parks is
prohibitive.
Councilmember Huber stated that there is also an issue of vandalism
and maintenance. He stated that the building would have to be
locked up. His concern is putting some much money into a building.
He wanted to see more information about the non - winter use. He
stated that there is no way Council would spend so much for just a
warming house that would be used less than 2 months a year. There
is no way he would support $45,000 for warning houses, which is
why he needs more information about how the building would be
used in the summer months. He also questioned whether this would
be the appropriate park for such a facility.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he also thinks the design is not
practical. He did not think Council should carry the design from the
other parks. He did not feel the proposed design is functional,
particularly since no bathrooms are proposed.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that approving the proposed
structure would be taking the parks in a different direction. One of
the concerns she had was about summer use and the lack of
ventilation or windows. She stated that she would want to be certain
that there would be proper ventilation.
Mr. Kullander responded that windows are vandalism problems but
that he could look at putting Plexiglas windows at the top of the
structure.
Mayor Mertensotto agreed with Councilmember Huber's point about
whether Wentworth Park is the appropriate park for such a structure.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that the warming house in
Wentworth Park is a mess and something needs to be done. The
people who use it feel it is too small. She felt that Council needs a
broader look at what the city will be doing with the rinks in the
future, such as whether there will be indoor rinks in the future. She
wanted to see a different format for rink attendants also, such as
recruiting senior citizens, pointing out that some of the warming
houses were never opened.
Councilmember Huber agreed that the existing warming house is
inadequate.
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Councilmember Huber agreed that the existing warming house is
inadequate.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would be in favor of
building a larger warming house that would not be used in the
summer rather than building the proposed structure.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that staff should indicate to the Park
and Recreation Commission that if they wish to simply build a larger
model of the warming house that currently exists, Council would be
willing to do that.
Councilmember Huber moved to approve an expenditure of up to
$38,000 on the paving of the Wentworth Park hockey rink from the
Special Park fund and sending the warming house issue back to the
Park and Recreation Commission with Council's comments.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
NDC -4 JOINT POWERS Council acknowledged a draft of the amended Joint Powers Agree -
AGREEMENT ment for NDC4, provided by Councilmember Huber, along with an
associated memo from the City Administrator.
Councilmember Huber explained that there are two issues, franchise
renewal with Media One and proposed amendments to the joint
powers agreement with NDC4. He explained that the draft of the
proposed agreement does not necessarily represent the feeling of
NDC 4 but he wanted to give Council an opportunity to review and
comment on it. The cable commission will give formal review in
April and then it will come back to all member cities for review and
approval. If there are some issues Council feels very strongly about,
such as weighted votes, he would like to get Council's preliminary
feedback.
There was discussion over weighted voting and its impact on
Mendota Heights.
Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that each community has two
representatives. He stated that there seems to be some urgency to
getting a new joint powers agreement and asked if there is a
movement afoot to renew the franchise with Media One.
Councilmember Huber responded that the franchise expires in
March, 2000. He further stated that in the new joint powers
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agreement Council would want to look at when a city could give
notice as to when they are leaving. The question is whether Council
wants to try to tie the cities into some period of time.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that this is the city's first joint powers
agreement for cable but many other communities have had
agreements for years. He felt that Council should make comparisons
to other agreements. He noted that the cable commission is heavy
into the renewal process and there are many issues in that regard
such as using cable for transmission of data. He stated that he is
looking at the service that the commission is providing for its
subscribers and that he thinks there should be some different
classification set up — basic service is to basic.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that this is essentially the first reading
on the draft agreement. He recognized Councilmember Huber for
the time he has spent on the issue as the city's representative on
NDC4 and deferred to his judgment on the agreement. He asked that
Councilmember Huber let Council know what points he thinks
Council needs to address.
Responding to a comment from Councilmember Schneeman
regarding West St. Paul's suggestion that the percent of NDC4
revenues returned to cities to from 15% to 25 %, Councilmember
Huber responded that there is real concern by the FCC that cities are
taking franchise fees and using them on non -cable related projects.
Councilmember Krebsbach agreed that Council should go with
whatever recommendation Councilmember Huber makes. The
bigger issue is the services available to the residents and whether the
Cable Commission should continue with this franchise or go to a
different provider.
Councilmember Huber stated that he will bring the issue back before
Council for formal approval in the future.
COMIVIISSION INTERVIEWS Council acknowledged a memo from Administrator Batchelder
regarding the scheduling of interviews for candidates for Parks and
Recreation Commission appointment.
It was the consensus to conduct the interviews at 7:00 p.m. on April
20 prior to the regular Council meeting.
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WORKSHOP Coucil acknowledged a memo from Administrator Batchelder
regarding the scheduling of a workshop on the comprehensive plan
amendment.
It was the consensus of Council to conduct a comprehensive plan
workshop on April 14.
COUNCIL COMMENTS Mayor Mertensotto informed Council that he spoke to Kari Gill,
from the HRA, regarding senior housing and that she informed him
that the HRA. would like to build another senior facility along the
Dodge Nature Center, to the north of the existing senior facility.
Mayor Mertensotto informed Council that he spoke to the attorney
for the MAC regarding the city's request to amend its agreement
with MAC regarding the prohibition against a third parallel runway
to the north. He stated that Minneapolis has received a fifty year
agreement and he understands that if the MAC enters into any
agreement with another city that contains any more restrictive
features, that the MAC would amend the Mendota Heights
agreement. He informed Council that the MAC attorney stated that
he has no problem with amending the agreement. He also informed
Council on significant construction that will occur to the airport
beginning in the coming weeks.
Councilmember Krebsbach commended the school district for its
decision to keep Somerset School open, pointing out that it is an
important and historical facility in Mendota Heights.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the city's snow removal policy needs
more clarification and indicated that he will talk to the Public Works
Director and Public Works Superintendent.
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before Council,
Councilmember Huber moved that the meeting be adjourned.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 10:13 p.m.:
athleen M. Swanson
City Clerk
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LIST OF CONTRACTORS TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL
March 16, 1999
Excavating Contractor License
Fogerty Excavating, Inc.
Turner Excavting Co.
Gas Piping Contractor License
A-1 Heating & Air Conditioning
Bruce Nelson Plumbing & Heating Service Inc.
HVAC Contractor License
A-1 Heating & Air Conditioning
Dependable Indoor Air Quality, Inc.
Bruce Nelson Plumbing & Heating Service Inc.
General Contractor License
E.L. Bulach Construction Co., Inc.
ECI Building Contractors
Valley Pools Inc.
Drywall/Stucco Contractor License
Stern Dry-wall Inc.