1997-09-02 Council minutesPage No. 1
September 2, 1997
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, September 2, 1997
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, Minnesota was held at 7:30 o'clock p.m. at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights,
Minnesota.
Mayor Mertensotto called the meeting to order at 7:30 o'clock P.M. The following members were
present: Mayor Mertensotto, Councilmembers Huber, Koch, Krebsbach and Smith.
Mayor Mertensotto informed the audience that former Fire Chief Arnie Siebell, who served on the fire
department for over thirty years, passed away on September 1, 1997 after a lengthy illness. Council and
the audience observed a moment of silence in recognition and as a tribute to Mr. Siebell's lengthy
service and dedication to the city. On behalf of the City Council, Mayor Mertensotto expressed
condolences to Mrs. Siebell and family members.
AGENDA ADOPTION Councilmember Krebsbach moved adoption of the revised agenda
for the meeting.
Councilmember Koch seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Councilmember Koch moved to acknowledge receipt of the amended
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
minutes of the July 22, 1997 Joint City Council/Planning
Commission meeting on the draft cellular/PCS ordinance.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Councilmember Koch moved approval of the minutes of the August
5, 1997 regular meeting as amended.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Abstain: 1 Huber
Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of the amended minutes
of the August 19, 1997 meeting.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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CONSENT CALENDAR Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of the consent calendar
for the meeting, revised to move items g, i and 1 to the regular
agenda and to remove item p (establishing a school speed zone) to
allow for receipt of additional information, along with authorization
for execution of any necessary documents contained therein.
a. Acknowledgment of the minutes of the August 13, 1997 Airport
Relations Commission meeting.
b. Acknowledgment of the minutes of the Planning Commission
meeting held on August 26, 1997.
c. Acknowledgment of the Building Activity report for August.
d. Acknowledgment of the unapproved minutes of the July 2, 1997
NDC4 Commission meeting and the August 6, 1997 Executive
Committee meeting.
e. Acknowledgment of revised budget forms.
f. Adoption of Resolution No. 97 -49#% RESOLUTION
ADOPTING PROPOSED BUDGET," Resolution No. 97 -50,
"RESOLUTION APPROVING TENTATIVE 1997
COLLECTIBLE IN 1998," and Resolution No. 97 -51,
"RESOLUTION APPROVING FINAL 1997 TAX LEVY FOR
SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT NO. 1 COLLECTIBLE IN
1998."
g. Approval to schedule a Council workshop on September 30,
1997 at 7:30 p.m. to discuss proposed Bunker Hills area street
improvements and to direct staff to send letters to the Bunker
Hills residents to inform them of the workshop.
h. Adoption of Resolution No. 97 -52, "RESOLUTION CALLING
FOR HEARING ON ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR TILSEN'S
HIGHLAND HEIGHTS STREET RECONSTRUCTION AND
SURROUNDING AREA IMPROVEMENTS
(IMPROVEMENT NO. 96, PROJECT NO. 4)."
i. Authorization for the issuance of a building permit to Lloyd's
Meats to construct a parking lot in accordance with plans dated
August 21, 1997.
j. Approval of plans and specifications for Victoria Curve safety
improvements and authorization for staff to advertise for bids,
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with the stipulation that costs associated with the project will be
funded by Tax Increment financing.
k. Approval for the Parks and Recreation Commission to cancel its
meeting scheduled for September 9.
1. Approval of the list of contractor licenses dated September 2,
1997 and attached hereto.
m. Approval of the List of Claims dated September 2, 1997 and
totaling $347,376.64.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
FIRE DEPARTMENT Council acknowledged a memo from Fire Chief Maczko
APPOINTMENTS regarding the appointment of probationary firefighters. Council also
acknowledged letters from Firefighters Richard Zwirn and Paul
Dreelan. Chief Maczko was present for the discussion.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he understands that Chief Maczko
would like Council to grant probationary appointment to five
potential candidates, Rob Galezewski, Tracy Wilcziek, John Boland,
Richard Burrows and David Bell to the fire department so that the
candidates can begin Vo -Tech training on September 15. He
informed Chief Maczko that Council does not want to increase the
department complement above the 36 person maximum. He
expressed concern over additional exposure for workers'
compensation and other benefits.
Chief Maczko responded that the candidates would not receive any
compensation to attend training at the Vo -Tech, but they would
receive mileage. He explained that in addition to the vocational
school training, the candidates will at the same time receive training
at the fire station so that when they have completed their schooling
in mid - December they can begin fire fighting. He informed Council
that before training is completed, new firefighters are not allowed to
go out with the first response truck or participate in interior fire
fighting. He stated that fire fighting gear must be provided for them.
Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that there are currently only three
vacancies on the department and appointing two additional
candidates in anticipation of retirements of two members could
create real problems.
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Chief Maczko responded that two firefighters have submitted letters
stating that they will be retiring or resigning by the end of the year,
and unless all of the candidates are appointed and begin training, the
department will be two members short at the beginning of the year.
He informed Council that the next Firefighter I class is in March, and
if two appointments are delayed, those firefighters would not be able
to begin fire fighting until they complete the training. He stated that
appointments are generally coordinated with retirements and other
openings so that two or three people can be trained at the same time.
He stated that this time, when the recruitment process was started in
April, there were three openings to fill. Since that time, two fire
fighters have indicated that they would be leaving at the end of the
year, so he felt it would make good sense to make five appointments
so that the department would be at full complement at the beginning
of the year rather than appointing three now and two more in three
months.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that there are three openings now and
Council has always filled existing openings and not increased the
complement of the department. He also noted that one of the letters
states that the firefighter intends to resign, but not that he will be
resigning.
Chief Maczko stated that the five candidates not only want to be
firefighters, but that they also are willing to do daytime response,
which is critical for the department.
Councilmember Smith stated that if the city has resignations she
does not think it would be unusual to make the appointments, and if
there is an overlap the department will be at full complement with
trained firefighters to fill in right away at the beginning of the year.
She stated, however, that she agreed with Mayor Mertensotto that
the letter from one of the firefighters is not clear that he will be
resigning, because it states that he intends to resign — which is not a
definite resignation.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that if the letter stated that the firefighter
will be resigning on December 31, Council could accept the
resignation.
Councilmember Huber stated that he agrees in a sense, since until
the firefighter actually resigns, he could change his mind at any time.
He stated however that the firefighter has served the city honorably,
and he did not think the individual would give the city a letter stating
his intent and then rescind it.
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Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that he is concerned over setting
precedent, stating that Council would not want to set a precedent to
increase the complement of the department to more than 36
members.
Councilmember Huber did not believe precedent would be set,
stating that the appointments are more driven by the timing of
training availability through the vocational school. He felt that
Council should appoint all five candidates, since the two firefighters
who submitted letters have served honorably and have stated their
intent.
Councilmember Smith asked if two of the candidates could be
appointed on a contractual basis until such time as the openings are
definite. She also asked if the five individuals would only be
obligated to respond to calls during the daytime.
Chief Maczko responded that they would be obligated to respond to
calls whenever they are available, but they have permission from
their employers to respond during the day or they work hours that
would allow daytime response. He explained that each of the
candidates has been notified, through a memorandum of
understanding, that if conditions change and they cannot respond
during the day they will be released from the department. He
recommended that all five candidates be appointed so that they can
begin Firefighter I training.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that the letter from one of the
firefighters is a matter of interpretation, and putting on an extra
firefighter will impact the department budget and workers'
compensation cost.
Councilmember Koch felt that the letter is a letter of resignation
even though it uses the word intent.
Councilmember Koch stated that she does not believe a precedent
would be set since there are three current vacancies and two
individuals have submitted letters saying they are leaving the
department on December 31.
Councilmember Smith stated that she feels Council should appoint
people to the number of openings which exist, and for which Council
has received letters of resignation, but that there seems to be some
question on whether Council actually does have letters of resignation
in hand. She asked Chief Maczko if he feels that the two firefighters
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would sign a letter of resignation drawn up by the city, since there
seems to be a question of interpretation on the letters which have
been submitted.
Chief Maczko responded that the individuals would probably sign
the letters. He stated that one of the letters has been re- drafted
already, and if there is some other language that Council feels is
more appropriate he would be happy to bring them to the
individuals.
Councilmember Smith stated that she has no doubt that the two
individuals are serious about resigning, but if they should change
their minds for some reason, the maximum complement of the
department would be exceeded at the end of the year.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the letters should be very clear in
stating that the individuals ask the city to accept their resignations
effective on December 31, 1997. He pointed out that the existing
letters are not actually letters of resignation, and the individuals
could delay their resignations beyond the effective date.
Chief Maczko stated that the department and the two members have
done a good job for the city and he regrets that Council thinks there
may be some game playing going on.
Councilmember Huber moved to accept the Fire Chief's
recommendation for appointment of the five candidates so that they
can begin training in anticipation of the resignation of two
firefighters plus the three existing vacancies.
Councilmember Smith asked whether Councilmember Huber would
agree to conditioning the appointments on city receipt of letters from
the two firefighters which ask the city to accept their resignations
effective on December 31, 1997.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would prefer that three
individuals be appointed and that the other two be given provisional
appointment until the resignations are effective.
Councilmember Huber stated that he would not agree to such an
amendment to the motion, because the two provisional appointees
would feel second best. He called for a vote on the motion.
Vote on Motion: Ayes: Huber, Koch
Nays: Mertensotto, Krebsbach, Smith
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Motion failed.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to grant probationary
appointment to the five recommended candidates conditioned upon
receipt of redrafted letters of resignation so that they are standard
letters of resignation, and with the understanding that if no redrafted
letters are received, only three appointments will be effective, and if
one letter is received, only four appointments will be effective.
Ayes: 5 Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 97 -23, MOEN- Council acknowledged a memo from Assistant Hollister regarding
LEVER the withdrawal by Moen -Leuer of its application for office -
warehouse development for the Tousignant site on Mendota Heights
Road. Council also acknowledged a letter from Moen -Leuer stating
that it has sold the property to United Properties and a letter from
Dale Glowa, of United Properties, stating that United Properties has
agreed to acquire the property and is not interested in the
development plan previously submitted by Moen - Leuer.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the Moen -Leuer letter is meaningless
since it does not withdraw the application, and asked whether it has
been made clear to Moen -Leuer that they were granted a thirty day
extension and Council must make a decision on the application. He
stated that either Moen -Leuer must withdraw the application or
Council can deny it. He further stated that although the application
did not go through the entire planning process, the city has expended
money on the process and if United Properties takes over, it must
submit a new application and fees.
Assistant Hollister responded that United Properties has asked that
the city accept the withdrawal of Moen - Leuer's application rather
than denying the application. He explained that the Moen -Leuer
letter simply states that they are not going to pursue the application,
but both Moen -Leuer and United Properties have indicated that they
would be willing to put in writing anything the city desires.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he could support accepting
withdrawal of the application with the understanding that Moen -
Leuer will forfeit all application fees that it has submitted and the
matter will be terminated. He stated that based on the United
Properties statement that it would prefer that the application be
withdrawn, he would recommend that Council accept the withdrawal
on the condition that the application would be terminated and all fees
would be forfeited.
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Councilmember Smith moved to approve Moen - Leuer's request to
withdraw its planning application number 97 -23 with the condition
that Moen -Leuer forfeits all application fees and that the case is
hereby terminated.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
MCTO Council acknowledged a memo from Administrator Batchelder
regarding MCTO bus route proposals. Council also acknowledged
letters from Ms. Sue Light, 970 Wagon Wheel Trail; Mr. Mark
Ascher, 2061 Patricia Street; Ms. Marilyn Hays, 2085 Patricia; Mr.
Lawrence Wenzel; and Ms. Debbie Smith, 1088 William Court,
responding to a letter from the city administrator to residents along
Wagon Wheel and Lexington regarding proposed route changes.
Council also acknowledged a log of telephone responses to the letter.
Responding to Council questions, Administrator Batchelder stated
that Route 425 begins at the Mall of America with the intent of
taking students to Brown Institute and also to serve the city's
industrial park. When it gets to South Plaza Drive, the route changes
to 95MU, at which point it will pick up Mendota Heights residents
who wish to travel to downtown Minneapolis. He stated that 95Mu
will begin in Mendota Heights rather than West St. Paul so that
service can be provided to Mendota Heights residents. He also
explained that the turn- around at the senior housing facility was
provided to serve MCTO.
Councilmember Krebsbach responded that the turn- around seems to
be serving more than the senior housing facility, so there will be
more people coming to the facility. She stated that she wants to be
sure that the increased traffic will not create a problem for the
seniors.
Councilmember Smith stated that she feels that there could be stops
created that would be more conducive to ridership, such as a route
along Pilot Knob to T.H. 13 and then over to Center Pointe to the
new bank, where people from North and South Lexington could pick
up bus service to Minneapolis.
Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that MCTO has given the city the
information as a courtesy and in a cooperative effort and that MCTO
does not need any action from the city on the proposed routes. He
directed Administrator Batchelder to inform MCTO that responses to
the neighborhood survey indicated that residents along Lexington
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and Wagon Wheel are not interested in expanded bus traffic. He
suggested that Council give MCTO a consensus that based on the
survey results Council would prefer that MCTO use Mendota
Heights Road west of Dodd Road, and Dodd Road.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would also like to be able
to have input next spring before the routes are implemented
It was the consensus that the MCTO routes should be operated on
Mendota Heights Road, west of Dodd Road, and along Dodd Road
and that MCTO be informed that Council would like the opportunity
for input before any future changes are made.
WENTWORTH PARK Council acknowledged a memo from Parks Project Manager
SHELTERS Kullander regarding bids received for construction of two picnic
shelters in Wentworth Park.
There was discussion over why only one bid was received and why
the bid exceeded the city's estimate by 50 %.
Because It was the consensus of Council to authorize staff to re -bid
the project early in the spring of 1998.
NORTH KENSINGTON PARK Council acknowledged a memo from Parks Project Manager
Kullander regarding bids received for North Kensington Park
landscape improvements.
Councilmember Smith moved to accept the bids and award the
contract for North Kensington Park landscape improvements to R.L.
Reynolds Construction for its low bid of $40,116.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
TREE PLANTING BIDS Council acknowledged a tabulation of bids received for the 1997
boulevard tree planting program.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to award the contract for the 1997
boulevard tree planting program to Greenworks, Inc., for its low bid
of $11,200.
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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AIR NOISE PLAN Council acknowledged a memo from Administrator Batchelder
regarding the Airport Relations Commission's Air Noise Plan of
Action. Commission member Ellsworth Stein was present for the
discussion.
Administrator Batchelder reviewed the Plan for Council and the
, audience and responded to Council questions.
Council expressed appreciation to the Airport Relations
Commission.
Councilmember Smith suggested that Council form a subcommittee,
representing Council, the Airport Relations Commission, Planning
Commission and city staff, to deal with some of the more imminent
issues (such as planning), that go beyond air noise.
TEMPCO Council acknowledged a memo from Administrative Assistant
Hollister relative to continued discussion on tax increment fmancing
for improvements to the Tempco site.
Assistant Hollister informed Council that staff has not received any
response from Tempco to the proposed TIF agreement.
It was the consensus to table discussion until such time as a response
is received from Tempco.
STREET NAME CHANGE Council acknowledged a letter from Dakota Bank President John
Seidel requesting that the city change the name of the T.H.
110/Lexington Avenue Frontage Road to "Dakota Drive." Council
also acknowledged an associated memo from Public Works Director
Danielson and a letter from property owners opposing the name
change.
Public Works Director Danielson informed Council that he has
received written concurrence with the name change from all of the
property owners on the frontage road with the exception of Mr. &
Mrs. Eldeeb.
It was the consensus of Council to table action on the request until
the Eldeebs can be contacted to see if they are in agreement with the
name change.
HUBER/DELAWARE Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
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AVENUE TURN LANES Danielson regarding installation of a right turn lane on Delaware
Avenue at Huber Drive and a letter from Mr. & Mrs. Roger
Shepherd, Jr., 2155 Delaware Avenue, objecting to the turn lane.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that as a general policy, he does not want
the city to use condemnation proceedings unless there is a serious
safety concern.
Councilmember Smith stated that the problem with the intersection
is that people come over the rise on Delaware and do not have
sufficient time to react. She suggested that Council discuss the
matter with the Shepherds to see if their concerns can be addressed.
Public Works Director Danielson informed Council that the
Shepherds are considering subdividing their property in the future,
and the city could wait to acquire the additional right -of -way at that
time.
It was the consensus to appoint Councilmember Smith to serve as a
Council subcommittee to contact Mr. & Mrs. Shepherd and discuss
the matter.
RIGHT -OF -WAY RELEASE Council acknowledged a letter from Mr. John Leach and Mr. Tom
REQUEST Leach requesting that the city release its interest in the Mn/DOT
right -of -way at the northeast quadrant of the intersection of T.H. 110
and Dodd Road. Council also acknowledged a related memo from
Public Works Director Danielson. The applicants were present for
the discussion.
Council discussed the request with the Leachs' and informed them
that the city is in the process of updating the Comprehensive Plan
and that Council has refrained from releasing any parcels from the
unused Mn/DOT right -of -way until Council can see how the
development of the property should best be guided.
CASE NO. 97 -27, Council acknowledged an application from Roseville Properties for
ROSEVILLE PROPERTIES a simple lot division to readjust the lot line between Lot 6 and Lot 5
of Block 1, Yorkton Centre Pointe South. Council also
acknowledged associated staff reports. Mr. Hugh Cullen, from
Roseville Properties, was present for the discussion.
Mr. Cullen explained that when he purchased the land south of the
Centre Pointe building, he discovered that there was a 60 foot
easement between Parcels A & B that turned out to be on the „aY;,,�
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lot, and he wants Center Pointe to have the dedicated land for
parking.
It was the consensus that Roseville Properties must submit executed
easement documents granting the city five foot utility easements
along the new lot lines, and to table action on the matter until
September 16.
CASE NO. 97- SCHNEEMAN Council acknowledged an application from Mr. Eric Schneeman for
a variance to allow installation of a fence on city property. Council
also acknowledged associated staff reports.
Mr. Schneeman submitted and reviewed revised drawings. He
explained that he is asking for two variances, one in the front yard
and one in the back yard. He explained that his home is on a cul-
de -sac and there is a 20 foot easement on his side of the road. He
stated that he would like to install a split rail fence around most of
his yard and is asking for a variance to place the fence thirteen feet
from the curb.
Mayor Mertensotto informed Mr. Schneeman that one of the reasons
why the city has never permitted structures within the fifteen foot
boulevard area behind the curb is because structures can interfere
with snow plowing or be subjected to potential damage from snow
plowing.
Mr. Schneeman responded that a setback fifteen feet from the curb
would be acceptable. He informed Council that much of his back
yard is natural and a city trail runs along his side yard. He stated that
people come down the street, and, because of bushes, miss the path
and end up going down his driveway. He stated that he has five
children and many things end up in the driveway, causing a safety
problem. He also stated that there is a very steep drop off in the back
of his property. He informed Council that he would like to install
the fence in the front yard to clearly define it as a yard so people do
not go onto it and that he would also like to put the fence in the back
to keep people from getting hurt.
Councilmember Smith stated that perhaps some of the bushes are not
located properly on the city property.
Councilmember Huber stated that the trail is bituminous, as is the
Schneeman driveway, and people who are not familiar with the trail
might mistake the driveway for the trail. He stated that the trail is
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the access to Valley Park and there is signage to tell people to get off
of their bikes because the hill is so steep.
Councilmember Smith stated that as it is proposed, the fence would
be on quite a bit of city property.
Mr. Schneeman responded that he would donate the fence to the city
because the fence would be for safety for those using the trail, and
that he will maintain the fence. He further stated that if the city ever
runs into any problems because of the fence, the city could take it
out. He stated that a fence cannot be installed in his back yard unless
it is on city property.
Mayor Mertensotto suggested that Council could allow the fence to
be placed on city property with the understanding that if it is on city
property it belongs to the city but if Mr. Schneeman does not
maintain the fence or if there are any problems caused by the fence,
the city will remove it.
There was discussion over how much snow storage space is needed
by the city on cul -de -sacs.
Mr. Schneeman stated that the fence will be split rail and snow
should go through it, as opposed to a side by side privacy fence
which would cause snow to mound.
Councilmember Smith asked Mr. Schneeman if it is his expectation
that snow plowing would not stop and that snow could mound.
Mr. Schneeman responded that he would not expect the city to
change its plowing procedure.
Mayor Mertensotto informed Mr. Schneeman that if the variance is
granted, no plantings could be installed around the fence and that
anything planted in the boulevard area is subject to snowplow
damage and the city would not replace or repair anything in the
boulevard that is damaged.
Councilmember Smith expressed concern about the back yard area
and the encroachment of a fence on right -of -way.
Councilmember Huber responded that if someone were going down
the path and lost control of a bike, they would not hit the proposed
fence.
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Responding to a question from Councilmember Krebsbach, Mr.
Schneeman stated that the fence would be eight feet from the trail.
Councilmember Krebsbach pointed out that if someone were moving
quickly on roller blades, eight feet is not very wide.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that if the fence is approved, the city
should require Mr. Schneeman to enter into a recordable agreement
which would set forth the city's rights, including that once the fence
is installed it becomes city property but as long as the fence exists as
an enclosure for the yard, the property owner must provide
maintenance.
Councilmember Smith stated that the city should also be held
harmless against anything that might happen to the Schneeman
family, visitors, etc.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would need to be
absolutely certain that the fence is placed far enough away from the
trail so that it does not contribute to any type of hazard.
Councilmember Smith expressed concern about public property
being used for private purposes.
Administrator Batchelder stated that the drawings do not show the
distance between the fence and the path and he would want that to be
covered in the agreement. He further stated that he shares the
concern that the fence could be too close to the path for the bicycle
riders and roller bladers using the path.
Council directed the city attorney to prepare a license agreement,
with a new sketch showing the dimensions and location of the fence
as an attachment, for execution by the Schneemans and consideration
on the next Council agenda.
CASE NO. 97 -28 Council acknowledged an application from Brian Convery for a
CON-VERY conditional use permit to allow a detached garage at 1193 Victoria
Curve. Council also acknowledged associated staff reports. Mr.
Convery was present for the discussion.
After brief discussion, Councilmember Krebsbach moved adoption
of Resolution No. 97 -54, "A RESOLUTION GRANTING A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A DETACHED GARAGE
FOR 1193 VICTORIA CURVE."
Councilmember Smith seconded the motion.
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Ayes: 5
Nays:0
CASE NO. 97 -29, PALME Council acknowledged an application from Mr. Dave Palme for a
conditional use permit for detached garage and sideyard setback
variance at 1053 Wagon Wheel Trail. Council also acknowledged
associated staff reports. Mr. Palme was present for the discussion.
Mr. Palme explained his requests and showed photographs of his
property to Council, explaining where the former garage was and
where he proposes to locate the new one. He stated that he believes
the city plat maps are in error and that the property dimensions he
submitted are accurate.
Councilmember Smith responded that it is not for Council to judge
where the Palme property line is. She asked if the city has any
drawings that show where the right -of -way is for the city trail that
runs along the property.
Public Works Director Danielson responded that Mr. Palme drew a
heavy line over the line that was generated by GIS, and it shows that
the garage would be totally on his property. He stated that city staff
could only find one Mn/DOT property line pin, but all of the
evidence the city has is that the garage is totally on the Palme
property. He informed Council that even though the City Planner
recommended denial, the Planning Commission clearly felt there
were several hardships involved with the request and therefore
recommended Council approval of the variance.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Krebsbach, Mr.
Danielson stated that there are slopes and trees involved if the garage
were moved back, and based on those conditions, the Planning
Commission felt that the structure should be built in the same
location as the old garage.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that whenever there is a conditional use
permit, any variances are granted with it, and the variance should be
included in the conditional use permit so that the conditional use
permit controls. He stated that he would prefer to grant the
conditional use permit to construct a detached garage in accordance
with the sketch plan submitted by the applicant and the
recommendation of the Planning Commission, without granting a
variance, because then the conditional use permit controls the
structure. He pointed out that if the structure were to be substantially
damaged in the future, the owner would need to go through the
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conditional use process again, whereas if a variance were granted,
the variance would go with the property.
Councilmember Smith agreed, stating that in a variance application,
Council must make a determination on how large a variance is
required. She pointed out that in this case, that determination cannot
be made. She stated that she would like to see more vegetation
planted along the property to provide a buffer from the city trail.
Mr. Palme responded that he has planted over 300 trees and shrubs
over the past few years.
Councilmember Huber moved adoption of Resolution No. 97 -55, "A
RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
FOR A DETACHED GARAGE," revised to remove language
referencing variances, and with the addition that the 24 by 24 foot
free standing garage be constructed in accordance with the plan
submitted by the applicant and on file with the city.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
VISITATION SCHOOL Council acknowledged an application from the Convent of the
Visitation for a conditional use permit for a new Early Childhood
Center, along with associated staff reports. Mr. Gary Ostberg, of
Ostberg Architects, was present on behalf of Visitation.
Mr. Ostberg stated that the school would like to have a year in which
to use the conditional use permit. He explained that fund raising has
not been as successful as had been hoped, and Visitation is now
looking at construction in April. He explained the six programs that
will occur at the Center, stating that the existing facility will be
removed and there will be no increase in enrollment associated with
construction of the new Early Childhood facility.
After brief discussion, Councilmember Krebsbach moved adoption
of Resolution No. 97 -56, "A RESOLUTION APPROVING A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO CONVENT OF THE
VISITATION SCHOOL FOR A DAY CARE SCHOOL," revised to
include that Visitation has up to one year from the date of issuance
of the conditional use permit in which to apply for a building permit.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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CASE NO. 97 -31, Council acknowledged a memo from Assistant Hollister regarding a
HOFFMAN HOMES request from Hoffinan Homes for concept plan review. Mr. Peter
Doyle and Mr. Pat Hoffinan were present on behalf of Hoffman
Homes.
Mr. Doyle reviewed the concept for sixty townhouse units on about
forty acres of land on the isthmus between Lake Augusta and Lake
LeMay on Resurrection Cemetery property. He stated that the
project would consist of 30 structures targeted at the upscale market.
He stated that if the air noise contours are not changed about half of
the units would fall within noise zone 4, but if it is changed to the
new contours that are being discussed, all of the units would fall in
zone three, which is inconsistent with residential use. He informed
Council of his discussions with Mn/DOT over access points from
new T.H. 13. He stated that no variances would be needed for
density or setbacks and that the project would comply with the spirit
of the proposed tree ordinance.
Responding to a question from Mayor Mertensotto about whether the
developers would intend to provide some type of access to the lake,
Mr. Doyle stated that it is intended to have passive access to the lake
but not public access or boat access. He stated that the intent is to
encourage canoe or small sailboat use but not to allow dockage.
There was discussion over noise zone restrictions and the possibility
that the Metropolitan Council may expand zone three, which would
cut off development of the property.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that his concern is that the city has limited
resources and does not want to spend a great deal of staff and
consultant time on a development only to find that it cannot be
approved. He stated there must be some way to find out if
development could in fact be approved by the Metropolitan Council.
He suggested that a subcommittee be formed, consisting of two
Councilmembers and members of the Planning and Airport Relations
Commissions, to review details of the proposed project, such as
amenities, access, number of units, etc., and to discuss what inquiry
should be made to the Metropolitan Council. He asked Mr. Hoffman
to put in writing what the project consists of so that the committee
has a better unified approach if it goes to the Metropolitan Council.
Councilmember Smith asked whether the noise standards were
automatically imposed on the city or if the Council boxed itself in in
the past by adopting a noise ordinance.
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September 2, 1997
Mr. Hoffinan responded that what the Metropolitan Council is doing
is using the Comprehensive Plan approval process to force cities to
do what that Metropolitan Council cannot do itself.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Mendota Heights is the only city in
the metropolitan area that adopted a noise attenuation ordinance. He
stated that the city is not boxed in — the ordinance speaks to building
construction details for noise attenuation.
McNEILL PROPERTY Public Works Director Danielson briefly reviewed his memo
updating Council on the status of acquisition of the McNeill
property.
Mayor Mertensotto suggested that the city commence the
condemnation proceedings and see what the commissioners come up
with. He did not want the city to become involved with a quick take.
LILYDALE PLAN Council acknowledged a memo from Assistant Hollister along with a
portion of the proposed new Comprehensive Plan for the City of
Lilydale.
Administrator Batchelder stated that Council has only a couple of
weeks to comment on the Lilydale plan.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that her biggest concern is over
traffic exiting I -35E.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that he does not believe there will be a
problem, since Mn/DOT is going to add two lanes on the bridge in
the near future.
Discussion on the Lilydale Comprehensive Plan was continued to
September 16.
COUNCIL COMMENTS Councilmember Huber stated that a property owner on Junction Lane
has trees which overhang a neighboring property, and the matter has
turned into a neighborhood dispute over tree trimming. He discussed
the history of the dispute for Council.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the matter is a private matter, and if
there is any damage from the trees it becomes an insurance issue. He
stated that all the city could do is to offer mediation assistance.
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ADJOURN There being no further business to come before the Council,
Councilmember Krebsbach moved that the meeting be adjourned.
Councilmember Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 12:30 o'clock A.M.
ATTEST:
Charles E. Mertensotto
Mayor
Kathleen M. Swanson
City Clerk
LIST OF CONTRACTORS TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL
September 2, 1997
Asphalt Contractor License
Valley Blacktopping, Inc.
Concrete /Masonry Contractor License
Sonco, Inc.
Excavating Contractor License
Beyer Excavating
J J Charles & Sons
Metro Utilities, Inc.
Valley Rich Co, Inc.
General Contractor License
Architectural Renovations Inc.
D & W Construction
Imperial Developers, Inc.