1999-06-15 Council minutesPage No. 1
June 15, 1999
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, June 15, 1999
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, Minnesota was held at 7:30 o'clock p.m. at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights,
Minnesota.
Mayor Mertensotto called the meeting to order at 7:30 o'clock P.M. The following members were
present: Mayor Mertensotto, Councilmembers Dwyer, Krebsbach and Schneeman. Councilmember
Huber had notified Council that he would be absent.
AGENDA ADOPTION Councilmember Dwyer moved adoption of the revised agenda for
the meeting, with the understanding that item 8c, Burow Farm pre -
application, has been removed from the agenda at the request of the
applicant.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays:0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of the minutes of the
regular meeting held on June 1, 1999 as amended.
Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
CONSENT CALENDAR Councilmember Schnee' eman moved approval of the consent calendar
for the meeting, along with authorization for execution of any
necessary documents contained therein.
a. Acknowledgment of the Treasurer's Report for May, 1999.
b. Acknowledgment of an update from the League of Minnesota
Cities regarding membership dues for the year 2000.
c. Acknowledgment of a memo from Assistant Hollister regarding
the status of the Special Park Fund.
d. Acknowledgment ,of a memo from Public Works Director
Danielson regarding landscaping improvements to the center
islands at Centre Pointe Business Park.
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e. Acknowledgment of a memo from Administrator Batchelder
regarding the Fourth of July fireworks display.
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g. Approval of the list of contractor licenses dated June 15, 1999
and attached hereto.
h. Approval of the List of Claims dated June 15, 1999 and totaling
$336,433.84.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
PUBLIC COMMENTS Ms. Cici Welsh, 1839 "Rolling Green Curve, stated that a number of
residents were present regarding the proposed use of the Burow
Farm land. She informed Council that she proposes to be the
designated contact person on the issue for the Rolling Green
neighborhood.
Ms. Welsh stated that the neighborhood opposes multi - family use on
the Burow property and would like to see the property remain as
single family use.
Mr. Bruce Bengtsen, 1848 Rolling Green Curve, stated that R -1
zoning appears to be appropriate to all of the residents.
Ms. Mary Roszak, 988 Stratford Road, stated that she would like
Council to consider the development of the pond in terms of the
community and not just the neighborhood in terms of what it
represents. She stated that to many residents, the farm represents
what Mendota Heights was historically and what it means to people
coming into the area.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that the property is zoned R -1 and
there had been recommendations made in the past to preserve the
farm in its current condition, but neither the Historical Society nor
any other non - profit agency has come forward to preserve the farm.
He explained that it is a difficult piece of property because it drops
off, and pointed out that the land is in private ownership and there
will be some development proposed for it. He also pointed out that
the city has an easement for storm water holding purposes and one of
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the requests from the developer is that the city change its easement.
He informed the audience that there was a similar request for a Best
Western hotel development in Centre Point, to change the
configuration of a holding pond, so that it could meet setbacks.
Council denied the development application and the district court
upheld the city's decision, and that he is sure that the same provision
would apply in. this case.
Ms. Roszak informed Council that she has been speaking with Mr.
Carlee at Dodge Nature Center and Mr. Eric Salverda has been
speaking with Mr. Burow over the past four years with respect to
developing the farm as a learning farm.. Mr. Carlee would like to be
put in touch with people in terms of Dodge holding the farm in a
temporary setting to buy time to insure proper development. She
stated that the property lines are different from Copperfield. The
Rolling Green properties only own to the shoreline and not into the
pond, so they have an interest in what happens to the Burow property
and are also concerned about drainage during storms.
Responding to a question from Mayor Mertensotto, Ms. Roszak
stated that Dodge Nature Center would hold the property in trust and
maintain it. She stated that the neighbors respect the fact that the
property is in private ownership.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Krebsbach, Ms.
Roszak stated that the Burow farm dates back to 1850 and is an asset
to Mendota Heights like the Sibley House is to Mendota. The farm
was deeded by Henry Sibley to Mr. Burow's parents.
HAZARDOUS WASTE DROP Assistant Hollister informed Council and the audience that the City
OFF SITE of West St. Paul will be sponsoring a household hazardous waste
drop off event at the West St. Paul Public Works Garage on
Saturday. He stated that the event is open to all Dakota County
residents.
INTRODUCTIONS Newly appointed Metropolitan Council District 15 representative
Carolyn Rodriguez introduced herself to the Council and audience.
She stated that she has already met with Administrator Batchelder
regarding airport noise issues. She also stated that the
comprehensive plan update deadline has been extended to the end of
the year.
Council discussed airport and noise related issues with Ms.
Rodriguez.
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Ms. Rodriguez stated that the only other comment she has to make is
that she plans to continue to meet with Administrator Batchelder and
would also like to continue to meet with the Council as often as
Council desires.
Councilmember Krebsbach announced that she has been appointed
to chair a committee of the Association of Metropolitan
Municipalities and has served on the Board for one year.
CASE NO. 99-13, HRA Council acknowledged an application from the Dakota County HRA
for rezoning and conditional use permit for land reclamation for a
townhome development on Lexington Avenue. Council also
acknowledged associated staff reports. Mr. Mark Ulfers, Executive
Director of the HRA, Mr. Bob Doffing, HRA Commissioner, and
Dakota County Commissioner Patrice Bataglia were present for the
discussion.
Mr. Ulfers reviewed the Livable Communities Act and informed
Council that the HRA has worked with Mendota Heights and eleven
other Dakota County communities, as a cluster, to jointly address
affordable housing needs and meet the goals of the Livable
Communities Act. He informed Council on the affordable housing
situation in Dakota County, stating that rents in Dakota County are
$1,030 on average for a three bedroom apartment and $778 for a two
bedroom apartment. The rates are being driven by a severe shortage
in available housing. The application from HRA involves a strong
partnership between city, HRA, county government and the private
sector, which the HRA calls its family housing partnership program.
and to date seven of the townhome developments have been
completed in Dakota County communities, creating 215 units
available. The partnership involves financing by a limited partner,
who is a local business corporation, that has an interest in investing
in housing. They are a 99% owner. The McKnight Foundation is
also involved as a chief financial partner. Even though the HRA
owns .1: 6/o, it acts as the general partner, lender and manager of the
properties.
Mayor Mertensotto asked if the HRA is the acquiring agency so that
when the LIRA. enters into the developer's agreement with the city,
the HRA will be the only underlying fee owner and will have the
right to enter into the agreement.
Mr. Ulfers 'responded it is his understanding that the HRA is the fee
owner. The property will be on the tax rolls, since a corporation is
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created, with a partnership agreement that gives the HRA those
responsibilities and gives the HRA the option to purchase the
property at the end of the agreement. He informed Council that he
has been assured by the county's attorneys that the HRA has the
authority to bind the conditions for development.
Mr. Ulfers informed Council that the people who live in these
developments are working people with incomes between $25,000
and $35,000, except the 3% who are not working are handicapped
individuals who reside in the handicapped units. Rent will be $440 to
$465 per month for a two bedroom unit and $490 to $515 for three
bedroom units, which is about half of what market rate rents are. He
informed Council that the HRA has received architectural awards for
some of its developments and that after the LIRA. development was
completed in Eagan, a,subdivision of executive homes costing
$250,000 to $400,000 was built across the street, so the HRA
developments to not have detrimental impacts. He showed
sketches of the Eagan and Hastings developments and informed
Council that there will be brick on the exterior of the Mendota
Heights units.
Mr. Ulfers reviewed the changes that have been made to the plan
since Council's last review. The site plan has been reduced from 26
to 24 units: there will be six buildings with four units in each
building. The HRA has made sure that parking and garage areas
totally comply with the Zoning Ordinance. Play areas have been
provided, and there will be a management office on site and resident
caretakers. The buildings have been changed to provide variations in
the roof lines as council had requested. Brick has been added as was
requested, and landscaping has been increased throughout the site.
Responding to a question from Mayor Mertensotto, Mr. Ulfers stated
that the HRA has used both steel and aluminum siding on its
developments and will use whichever Council prefers.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that steel is preferable because
aluminum is not always installed properly and can deteriorate, and
because steel holds up better over time.
Mr. Ulfers responded that the HRA will agree to a stipulation for
steel siding. in the developer's agreement if that is Council's
preference. He further stated that the HRA wants to meet
community standards.
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Councilmember Dwyer stated that the community standard was
established by the HRA when it constructed the beautiful senior
housing development in the city. He stated that his desire would be
that this new development have an equal square foot cost.
Mr. Ulfers stated that on a per unit basis, what is being proposed
here is considerably more expensive. He stated that the HRA would
like to meet the same mix of brick and siding in this development.
He stated that he has also talked to the MAC consultant who is
looking at noise issues and he will provide input on what MAC's
experience has been with windows, etc., so that the development is
as enjoyable and livable as possible.
Project Architect Kim Bretheim reviewed the site plan for the 24 unit
development, which includes two accessible units (one 1- bedroom
and one 2= bedroom) There will be six three bedroom units and the
balance are two bedroom units. He stated that a question had been
raised by the city about providing two curb cuts, but Dakota County
will only approve one curb cut. The LIRA has revised the site plan to
make the entrance wider in the center of the site to accommodate
emergency vehicle access. Mr. Bretheim reviewed the building
elevations. He stated that a pathway is proposed along Lexington,
and the HRA will provide an easement for the path and will provide
grading for the pedway.
Councilmember Dwyer asked if the trail easement is in lieu of the
required park contribution.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that it will not be his position to substitute
the easement for the park contribution.
Mr. Bretheim stated that the buildings will be set back forty feet
from the property line so that there is room the easement and the trail
will be sufficiently removed from the dwellings so that there is
privacy for the dwellings.
Councilmember Dwyer asked how many people will reside in the
development.
Mr. Ulfers responded that the HRA's lease agreement restricts the
number of people who can live in the units. If there are children
over of different genders, and one of them is over age 5, they have to
have separate rooms. There could be a maximum of six people per
unit. The average number of people per unit in the HRA
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developments is 3.3 per unit, and that is in developments with much
higher percentages of 3 bedroom units.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Schneeman , Mr.
Ulfers stated that people generally live in this type of HRA
developments for less than two years. Because the rates are so much
lower than market rate, people are able to save for down payments
on homes. The HRA also offers a first -time home buyer program at
a current interest rate of 5.9 %, and the HRA works with residents of
its developments to help them buy their first homes.
Mr. Bretheim informed Council that each unit will have an attached
single car garage and one guest parking stall. An additional twelve
parking stalls are provided throughout the site for guests. There will
be no patios on the units that will back onto Lexington, and they will
not have patio doors. ,There is a tot lot on the site and a blacktopped
basketball court. There will be a covered area outside the front entry
of each of the units that provides space for lawn chairs and grilling.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he feels a better job could be done on
landscaping, to provide some screening between the pedway and the
buildings so that the residents have more privacy and to screen some
of the noise from Lexington.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she appreciates the common
space around the units but that she is concerned about the quality of
life in the development, and there is a lot of blacktop around the
buildings.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that she has visited some of the
other HRA sites and they do a good job of providing a feeling that
there is room to put lawn chairs, etc.
Mr. Bretheim stated that at each of the entrance sidewalk areas there
will be foundation plantings. He pointed out that there is also a
covered gazebo with two picnic tables and two barbecues for the
residents.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked Mr. Bretheim to soften the
appearance of the development as much as possible. She also asked
if it would be possible to add shutters, stating that she feels shutters
will make the buildings homier and less institutional.
Mr. Bretheim responded that the Planning Commission made a
similar comment, and the HRA has addressed the issue by adding
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substantially more, trees and more foundation landscaping on the
Lexington Avenue side of the development.
Mr. Ulfers stated that if Council feels that shutters will be an
attractive element, he would be open to adding them.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that Council is concerned that the new
residents are living in a livable area and to establish a standard for
future developments.
Mr. Ulfers stated that the HRA would agree to putting shutters on the
lower levels and that he will have Mr. Bretheim do colored drawings
that shows the buildings with and without shutters and Council can
choose which it prefers.
Mayor Mertensotto asked Councilmembers Krebsbach and
Schneeman to be Council's representatives to discuss the issue with
the HRA. He stated that Council will defer to Councilmembers
Krebsbach and Schneeman on shutters.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that if the interior court has a little
more green area and if there is a picnic area with a gazebo, it will be
i a comfortable place for the residents.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the Planning Commission
recommended that. Council not approve a conditional use permit for
a planned unit development because Council has not approved a
planned unit development under five acres. He pointed out that
Council does have the authority to grant a variance to the property
size requirement for a PUD for good reason. The Planning
Commission recommended approval of rezoning and conditional use
permit for land reclamation. The HRA has indicated they will agree
to signing a developers agreement either way - for rezoning or
planned unit development. Also, the city has never taken a trail
easement as park contribution. He pointed out that the trail would be
a joint project between the city and the county, using MSA funds,
and he felt the HRA should pay the $750 per unit park contribution
in addition to granting the easement.
Mr. Ulfers responded that the HRA will agree to paying the park
contribution in addition to granting the easement.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that Council assumes that the
residents will be using the city parks and welcomes their use of the
parks and their participation in park programs.
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NDC -4 Council acknowledged a memo from Administrator Batchelder
regarding the draft NDC -4 joint powers agreement. Ms. Jodie
Miller, Executive Director of NDC -4 was present for the discussion.
Ms. Miller stated that a draft agreement that represented the
consensus of the commission members was discussed by the Council
at its last meeting. She stated that NDC -4 is asking for Council
feedback from all of its communities. Since the last meeting, the
commission has received and accepted a notice from West St. Paul
stating its intent to withdraw.
Mayor Mertensotto sated that although the resolution from West St.
Paul expressed its intent to withdraw, NDC -4 did accept the.
withdrawal, and West St. Paul will not be a member after March,
2000.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that the June 4 letter from West
St. Paul to NDC -4 states that it is the intent and wish of Wet St. Paul
that discussion continue between member cities and that they remain
hopeful that agreement will be reached.
Ms. Miller responded that West St. Paul did leave the door open.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that in the NDC -4 communication to
Council, Ms. Miller says that there have been many
recommendations and suggestions made by individual communities
and commission members. He asked whether Ms. Miller would
document what the reasons were for the proposed revisions and what
the members requested be amended. He stated there is discontinuity
in the agreement and that the overall concerns should be addressed
rather than going through the draft piecemeal He felt that what the
members are requesting be amended should be laid out, along with
the reasons for the proposed amendments. He stated that there must
be some reason that someone feels that Mendota, Sunfish Lake and
Lilydale should not have the same voting power as the other
communities.
Miss Millerxesponded that weighted voting was one area that was
discussed quite a bit. Without having received feedback from all of
the communities, she knows that weighted voting is of West St. Paul
The agreement that has been in place since the beginning of NDC -4
cites four situations where weighted voting is used, and they are all
major items: admitting new members to the group, approval of the
needs assessment report related to franchise renewal, approval of the
draft of the new franchise ordinance, and any amendment to the
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bylaws. The' consensus of most of the members is that the language
should remain the same in the new agreement as in the existing
agreement.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that there are problems with weighted
voting. In the absence of one director of a city, the other director can
cast, 611 of the weighted votes, but if both of the directors are missing,
the weighted condition means nothing.
Ms. Miller responded that in general the agreement seems to be that
for operational types of decisions, the commission is working
together as ,a management board and the six volunteers from the
small cities spend the same amount of time and contribute the same
in terms of management. The commission seems to feel that there
should continue to be one vote per person in those situations.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the language on weighted voting
should be simplified so that it is easier to understand. If there is to
be weighted voting, the method of how is should be done should be
set forth in the agreement. He stated that there are also other issues
that present problems. There are six member cities, and if one of the
cities withdraws, what are the rights of the other cities as far as the
joint powers agreement. He stated that it is his understanding that the
commission retains all of the franchise fees for the balance of the
franchise. If Mendota Heights, for example, were to leave, it would
have the right to enter into a franchise agreement with any other
cable provider.
Ms Miller responded that the city's franchise ordinance would
remain in place with the operator and the city would be responsible
individually to enforce it with the operator. When NDC -4 sends out
a draft of the franchise ordinance at the end of this year, each of the
cities would adopt the same franchise ordinance. If a city leaves the
group, it would have a franchise ordinance in place, would
administer it, and would collect the 5% franchise fee. The revised
Councilmember Dwyer referred to the portion of the draft, on page
16, relating to the collection of franchise fees.
Ms. Miller stated that there are currently two options for withdrawal
in the. discussion draft agreement (on pages 15 and 16). Option one,
which is the recommendation of the commission, is that all of the
cities remain members of the agreement for the term of the newly
renewed franchise. The second option retains language similar to the
existing'agreement, where members have the annual opportunity to
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withdraw, but tries to spell out more specifically what would happen
in terms of the assets and contributions made in the past and the on -.
going services the member city should be entitled to receive. The
existing agreement does not address one city pulling out and the
others staying together.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that in one respect a city agrees to stay for
the term of the agreement and all of a sudden there is a withdrawal
provision.
Ms. Miller pointed out that only one of the two options will be in the
final draft. She stated that the agreement must receive unanimous
approval of all of the cities. If the City Council wants everyone to be
committed to stay, that is what Council should recommend.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that there must be other joint powers
agreement,that can' be used as a guide so that the commission does
not have to reinvent the wheel.
Ms. Miller, stated that the city has two representatives who have sat
through many meetings where all of the details have been discussed.
She stated that she would be happy to provide a cover sheet or step
by step explanation on all of the red lining that has taken place.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she has read the commission
minutes that discuss how the changes evolved, and that perhaps it
would be good to summarize that discussion.
Ms. Miller stated that the commission has reviewed other joint
powers agreements and its attorney has reviewed them as well.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that Councilmember Huber and
Mr. Sokol stated that they agonized over the issues, and they had
recommendations at the last Council meeting. She suggested
Council take their recommendations.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that Council is at a disadvantage
because Mayor Mertensotto was not present for the last discussion
and Council 'member Huber is absent this evening.
Ms. Miller stated that in light of the fact that the commission has
received the resolution from West St. Paul, there is more time to
work on the agreement. She stated that it is unrealistic now to think
that an agreement can be approved by July.
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Mayor Mertensotto asked Ms. Miller to prepare a summary of the
requests that were made and the reason for the amendments that
were proposed. He stated that.he does not want to blindly approve
something he knows little about.
Ms. Miller responded that she is here this evening to get direction
and to see if Council has any strong feelings on the agreement,
especially on weighted votes and on the recommendation that
members must commit for the length of the agreement.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that at the last meeting, Council
basically concurred with Option One on withdrawal and on the
weighted voting and had a general consensus that it agreed with the
15% franchise fee, but held the matter over so that Mayor
Mertensotto would have a chance to review the draft agreement and
give input.
Ms. Miller stated that Mendota Heights is the first city she has I.
visited and that it may be helpful for all of the cities if she frames the
issues in a summary.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council is looking for harmony and
j the best thing would be if West St. Paul were a part of the
agreement. The ultimate objective is to focus on what can be done
collectively to unison back and have the seven cities operate in
harmony. He felt that perhaps there should be a subcommittee to
meet with West St. Paul to look at their concerns.
Ms. Miller stated that she will work on a summary. She also stated
that the,commission will also be working on some financial models
as 'it addresses the questions and concerns of West St. Paul.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he would like to see some of the
franchise agreements of other cities, and that he would like to know
why the amendments were proposed to the draft agreement.
Ms. Miller stated that the commission has reviewed other franchise
agreements and that if Council is interested in the detail, she would
be happy to provide it to Council. She stated that she would send
materials to Council towards the end of the month.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would also recommend
that the -minutes of the two meetings that lead up to the draft
agreement be copied to Council again.
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FIRE TANKER Council acknowledged a memo from Fire Chief Maczko regarding
fire tanker replacement. Chief Maczko was present for the
discussion.
Chief Maczko stated that he is present to request approval to replace
the existing 2,000 gallon tanker with a tanker that is available
through the Northfield Rural Fire Association. He stated that the
Fire Department has been planning to replace the tanker since the
department capitol improvement program was done in 1993,
although the truck was not included in the budget proposal for 1999
because he understood that it would not be available until the year
2001. The rural association has a program of replacing trucks every
seven to eight years, and in March of this year, Chief Maczko
received a call from their chief and was told that the association got
approval to replace the tanker this year. He was given the first right
of refusal on the truck, which has 4,800 miles on it and is six years
old. Chief Maczko reviewed his memo in detail, informing Council
on the needs assessment and other advantages to replacing the
existing tanker with the Northfield tanker. He reviewed the tanker's
capabilities and showed Council pictures of the unit. He explained
that the only thing the department would need to have done to the
tanker is to paint a white stripe down its side for visibility at night
and to remove the existing lettering and letter it for Mendota
Heights. The bumper would also need to be extended in order to add
the big siren to it. The cost for the tanker would be $119,000 versus
$165,000 to $175,000 for a new tanker.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he totally disagrees with purchasing
the tanker. He stated that the city is currently paying $115,000 a
year through the year 2002 for the ladder truck and there is no
money budgeted for a tanker. He pointed out that the tanker is not
first line equipment, and if the existing tanker is not good, he would
authorize its disposal right now. He did not feel it is appropriate to
buy used equipment and felt that Northfield is disposing of the
tanker for a reason. He did not see where the department has
anything to gain by buying a tanker primarily to serve Mendota and
Sunfish Lake. He stated that he does not know why an extraordinary
expenditure should be made outside of the budget for second hand
equipment, and if there is justification for purchasing a tanker he
would have no problem authorizing the department to put together
specifications for a new tanker. He stated that he did not agree with
the purchase of the 1979 chassis and installing a new cab and
compartments on it and stated that you get what you pay for. He
stated that if specifications are well designed and a fire truck is well
maintained, it should last for 25 years. He did not think the
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department has made a case to substantiate buying a used tanker. He
pointed out that Inver Grove Heights and Eagan have tankers, and
when there is a structural fire in Sunfish Lake, Eagan and Inver
Grove Heights are put on notice immediately.
Chief Maczko responded that the department needs a tanker to
provide water to the non - hydrant areas of the city's service area. He
cited examples of need in Lilydale and in the residential areas of
Mendota and Sunfish Lake. He stated that the fire department
cannot gamble on not taking a tanker on an alarm by anticipating
that it will be a false alarm. If the department does not have the
tanker capacity on a call, it will not have the time to get equipment
out if the call turns out to be a fire. He stated that the existing tanker
had to be used at the Pool and Yacht Club and a car fire on T.H. 13.
The tanker had been planned for since 1993 based on the premise
that the department needs to protect the freeway system and portions
of Mendota Heights as well as in the contract areas. He stated that a
tanker is an integral link in fighting fires. It is the second truck out
in the winter because the department cannot count on hydrants being
clear, and it is a front line truck in all responses to Sunfish Lake and
Mendota. Purchasing the Northfield tanker would provide the
opportunity to meet that role and at the same time save money. The
city's existing tanker would have some value for small or rural
departments and would be advertised in trade periodicals.
Councilmember Dwyer asked why Northfield is turning the tanker
over so quickly.
Chief Maczko responded that the Northfield department relies
heavily"on'tankers for its rural fire protection and did a cost analysis
on when it is best to dispose of a piece of equipment found that
seven to eight years is the break even point. This is the fourth time
they have turned tankers over in the past 24 years. The last tanker
was sold to Wayzata, and the next opportunity Mendota Heights
would have to purchase a used tanker from Northfield would be
seven to eight years from now. He explained that Northfield is
selling the tanker now because of a the manufacturer of the tankers
had a special purchase arrangement . He stated that he has spoken
with the Wayzata Chief, who told him that the department is very
happy with the truck they purchased from Northfield. He stated that
there are four years remaining on the ten year manufacturer's
warranty on the tank.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Dwyer, Chief
Macz;ko stated that replacement of the tanker was planned for 1998.
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He became aware of Northfield's replacement program in 1997 and
talked to the Northfield Chief, who gave Mendota Heights the first
right of refusal for this tanker. He stated that the equipment will
meet the department's needs and will save the city money.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Krebsbach, Chief
Maczko stated that the current tanker was purchased in 1982 and has
a 1977 chassis. The truck was purchased used with over 100,000
miles on it. A tank, siren and cabinets were installed on the chassis,
and the city took deliver of the unit in 1982. There are currently
114,000 miles on the unit.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if West St. Paul and South St. Paul
are mutual aid.
Chief Maczko responded that they are mutual aid but do not have
tankers:
Treasurer Shaughnessy reviewed the fire contract financing for
Council, stating that the cost of a truck is depreciated, as part of the
contracts, over ten years. The contract cities pay a total of about 17
to 18% of the city's annual fire budget.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Krebsbach, Chief
Maczko stated that the Northfield truck has a Ford chassis and the
truck was manufactured by Kustom Fire. It has a Ford diesel engine
with a five speed automatic transmission and a 300 gallon per minute
Waterous pump. He stated that if the city were to prepare
specif cations for a brand new truck, the truck would not look much
different from the Northfield truck, and purchasing this unit would
save the city considerable money.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Krebsbach, Chief
Maczko reviewed the department's current equipment: a 1,500
gallon per minute pumper; a 1978 1,250 gallon per minute pumper
from which the Squrt was removed and which was refurbished in
1993; a 1986 Ford pumper with a 1,250 gallon permit pump on it;
and a 2,000 gallon Ford tanker, which is a 1977 chassis to which a
tank was added in 1982. Prior to delivery of the pumper in 1996, the
department had a 1960 1,000 gallon per minute pumper with a 500
gallon tank and a 1970 1,000 gallon per minute pumper with a 1,000
gallon. tank, and both of those were traded in 1996.
Mayor Mertensotto asked how many times the tanker was taken out
in 1998 for fire calls.
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Chief Maczko responded that it was probably taken out at least a
dozen times. He stated that when the fire department goes out, about
80% of the calls they respond to are fire calls. They may be alarm
calls that turn out to be false after the department gets there, but
about 25 to 27% of the calls are fires. The remainder of the calls are
generally alarm calls or assists. He stated that the department always
responds as if a call is an actual fire.
Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that each call costs money. He asked
what the department is doing about dealing with false alarm calls.
Chief Maczko responded that the department is doing a lot of public
education about maintaining alarm systems and has been very
aggressive this year about alarm companies that do not call the
department when they are doing maintenance work. He informed
Council That the department went on 134 chargeable false alarms; in
128 cases they were single alarms without being repeated. The
department only responded to six of those homes more than once.
He stated that the community has grown significantly over the years
but the number of alarm calls has not grown proportionately.
Commercial alarms have been curbed significantly over the past few
years.
Councilmember Schneeman suggested that perhaps the fine for false
alarms should be raised.
Chief Maczko stated that there is no charge for a false alarm until the
third alarm per year.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that if the city gets enough money
for fines, it would help to pay the cost of sending firefighters and
equipment out.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she does not think people
would object to paying a fine. She asked Treasurer Shaughnessy
about financing.
Treasurer Shaughnessy stated that the only costs that have been
committed in the equipment reserve fund are the $72,000 for police
computers and the radio system.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that it is difficult to make a decision of
such magnitude on such short notice.
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Mayor Mertensotto stated that he would prefer to buy a new truck, if
there is a need, than to buy someone else's trouble.
Chief Maczko stated that he believes strongly that there is a need.
He statedT that the opportunity is available to the city to purchase a
piece of equipment that is not going to be a maintenance headache,
based on past equipment of this type that the city has, and save the
city $40,000. He also stated that the Northfield Chief stated they
have not had any maintenance problems and if Mendota Heights
purchases the equipment and has problems with it, Northfield will
take care of them. He stated that unlike a pumper, tankers generally
do not idle for any lengths of time because they either responding to
a fire or shuttling water back and forth. Also, diesel engines are
designed to run and idle for long periods of time.
Councilmember Krebsbach agreed with Councilmember Dwyer that
it is difficult to make decisions of this magnitude under these
conditions. She stated that in her mind this appears to be a good
investment and that she believes in good, basic equipment and
appreciates that Chief Maczko has not been coming before Council
minor things that might be nice to have but are not necessary. Based
on Chief Maczko's recommendation, if in fact the city is due to
purchase the equipment in the next two years, if in fact the miles on
the truck actually reflect its use in relationship to going to and from
fires, the pump capacity is sufficient and the hours of use of the
pump is not excessive and if its purchase will not deplete the
equipment reserve fund, she would support its purchase.
Chief Maczko responded in the affirmative.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to authorize the purchase of the
tanker from the Northfield Rural fire Association for a purchase
price of $119,000.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 3
Nays: 1 Mertensotto
Councilmember Dwyer moved to authorize advertising for the sale
of the existing tanker truck.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
TOBACCO ORDINANCE Council acknowledged a memo from Police Chief Johnson along
with a proposed Uniform Tobacco Ordinance.
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Mayor Mgrtensotto stated that Council was instrumental in saying
that there should be one uniform tobacco ordinance in Dakota
County. He stated that if Council adopts the ordinance, the city will
be the enforcing authority. He further stated that he would like to
regard this as the first reading of the ordinance and hold a second
reading at the next meeting, with subsequent adoption two weeks
after the next meeting:
RESURRECTION APPRAISAL Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
Danielson regarding the appraisal on the parcel of property (Lot 42)
that the city proposes to purchase from Resurrection Cemetery for
use as a disposal site for street sweeping sand.
Councilmember Schneeman pointed out that once it is filled in, the
property can be used for commercial property and can go back on the
tax base.
After discussion, Councilmember Schneeman moved to authorize
the purchase of the 11,:2 acre parcel from Resurrection Cemetery,
through TIF, for its appraised value of $863,000 and that the land be
included as part of the.TIF project for redevelopment at a future
time, with the purpose of serving as a landfill site for street
sweepings until TIF development occurs.
Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0y
NSP ENVIRONMENTAL Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
WORKSHEET Danielson regarding an application from NSP to replace wooden
power poles with mono pole metal structures in the city and a
petition from Sunfish Lake residents to the EQB for an
Environmental Assessment Worksheet.
Mayor Mertensotto reviewed the memo and recommended that
Council direct staff to notify NSP that it opposes the relocation of
the transmission lines. He pointed out that NSP will need to appear
before the city for approval to replace the poles and the city can
place conditions on approval.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that the city of Mendota Heights is not
going to support a program that creates new problems in Mendota
Heights in order to solve existing problems in Sunfish Lake.
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Councilmember Krebsbach moved adoption of Resolution No. 99 -32
"A RESOLUTION PROVIDING COMMENTS TO THE
MINNESOTA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY BOARD ON
NORTHERN STATES POWER'S ENVIRONMENTAL
ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET."
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
COUNCIL COMMENTS Councilmember Krebsbach asked staff to be vigilant in monitoring
the Copperfield Pond. She stated that residents have commented that
water does not move fast enough between the upper and lower ponds
and neighbors have been complaining about water coming into their
yards.
Engineer Mogan stated that he will investigate. He noted that the
city holds a conservancy easement around the large pond and
landscaping is restricted from the easement area.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that he has received comments from
residents about the T.H. 110/Delaware Avenue intersection asking
what can be done about the confusing situation for traffic from the
attempting to turn west and south traffic attempting to go east.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he sees the Burow Farm development
pre - application as a process that will consume considerable staff
time. He stated that it appears to him that the proposal will not
receive much public support. If the applicants are proposing to ask
for TIF for the project, which will pay no taxes, the city will not get
its money back. He suggested that staff let the developers know that
there does not appear to be a lot of Council support and that Council
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would like to send a clear
message that this is not an appropriate use for the land.
Councilmember Dwyer agreed, stating that Council is not interested
in coridibuting TIF and this is not an appropriate use for the site.
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before Council,
Councilmember Schneeman moved that the meeting be adjourned to
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Councilmember Krebsbach moved adoption of Resolution No. 99 -32
"A RESOLUTION PROVIDING COMMENTS TO THE
MINNESOTA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY BOARD ON
NORTHERN STATES POWER'S ENVIRONMENTAL
ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET."
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
COUNCIL COMMENTS Councilmember Krebsbach asked staff to be vigilant in monitoring
the Copperfield Pond. She stated that residents have commented that
water does not move fast enough between the upper and lower ponds
and neighbors have been complaining about water coming into their
yards.
Engineer Mogan stated that he will investigate. He noted that the
city holds a conservancy easement around the large pond and
landscaping is restricted from the easement area.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that he has received comments from
residents about the T.H. 110/Delaware Avenue intersection asking
what can be done about the confusing situation for traffic from the
attempting to turn west and south traffic attempting to go east.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he sees the Burow Farm development
pre application as a process that will consume considerable staff
time. He stated that it appears to him that the proposal will not
receive much public support. If the applicants are proposing to ask
for TIF for the project, which will pay no taxes, the city will not get
its money back. He suggested that staff let the developers know that
there does not appear to be a lot of Council support.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would like to send a clear
message that this is not an appropriate use for the land and Council
will not support a rezoning.
Councilmember Dwyer agreed,, stating that Council is not interested
in contributing TIF and this is not an appropriate use for the site.
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before Council,
Councilmember Schneeman moved that the meeting be adjourned to
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the comprehensive plan workshop to be held at 7:00 p.m. on June 16.
Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4:
Nays: 0
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 10:48 p.m.
K thleen M. Swanson
City Clerk
ATTEST:
Charles E. Mertensotto
Mayor