2001-07-24 City Council minutesPage No. I
July 24, 2001
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, July 24, 2001
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, Minnesota was held at 7:30 o'clock p.m. at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights,
Minnesota. The following members were present: Mayor Mertensotto, Councilmembers Dwyer,
Krebsbach, Schneeman and Vitelli.
AGENDA ADOPTION Councilmember Krebsbach moved adoption of the revised agenda
for the meeting.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Councilmember Vitelli moved approval of the amended minutes of
the regular meeting held on July 10, 2001.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CONSENT CALENDAR Councilmember Dwyer moved approval of the consent calendar for
the meeting, revised to move items 5e, Marie Avenue improvements
and 5h, Fairfield Inn sign, to the regular agenda, along with
authorization for execution of any necessary documents contained
therein.
a. Acknowledgment of the Treasurer's monthly report for June.
b. Authorization to advertise for bids for the 2001 Slurry Seal
Project.
c. Authorization for consultant Carolyn Krall (Landform) to
complete the draft Town Center Design Guidelines.
d. Approval of the list of contractor licenses dated July 24, 2001.
e. Authorization for the issuance of sign permits to Nordquist Sign
Companies, Inc, for United Properties for a monument sign for
the Mendota Office Center, and modification of an existing sign
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and individual sign letters (building south side) for tenant signs
at 1230 Northland Drive, for Agere Systems.
f, Approval of the List of Claims dated July 24, 2001 and totaling
$1,124,430.88.
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
MARIE AVENUE OVERLAY Councilmember Krebsbach stated that at a workshop she raised a
question about the street mix that is currently being used in street
sealing and overlay projects. She stated that she understands that the
mix used is the Mn/DOT specification, but the streets do not seem to
be holding up. The middle of streets where slurry has been done are
beginning to show gravel and are patchy looking. She stated that she
would like assurance that the street mix used for Marie Avenue and
future overlays and for the slurry seal projects return to the mix used
several years ago. She noted that residents are beginning to ask for
overlays on streets that have recently been done.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he has looked at the streets since
that workshop and agrees with Councilmember Krebsbach.
Engineer Mogan stated that the mix design of the asphalt that is
being used now has been used for at least the eight years that he has
worked for the city. The problem is related to the slurry seal and
plowing operations. His memo to Council briefly addresses the
issue and the need to modify the city's snowplow settings or
practices so that the plows are not so aggressive on the street surface
itself. Remedial work will be done inider the slurry seal project
where damage has occurred.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he believes the final bituminous mix
used for street reconstruction projects has a larger sized aggregate in
it, and when it is rolled down you can see the aggregate on the
surface rather than a smooth surface. While it may hold up well, it
has a bad appearance to begin with if the aggregate is already
showing on the surface as it is rolled down. He stated that all of the
driveway aprons and perhaps the driveways done with the Rogers
Lake area project have the same mix as the street and people think, it
is not as good a job. In one to two inch overlays, the size of the
aggregate becomes more important, because what you see is the
aggregate. He stated that when the highway department goes over
concrete, they use a very fine mix.
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Councilmember Dwyer asked if there is anything unsound with the
roads or if this is a cosmetic situation rather than functional.
Engineer Mogan stated that sometimes the asphalt mix segregates as
it gets towards the end of the load in the applicator, so it may look a
little different but he does not know how to solve that problem.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council is not asking for a solution
tonight but suggested that Engineer Mogan to contact the suppliers
or other cities to see if they have notice that there is a difference in
the wear surface when a larger aggregate is used or when the final
coat contains more aggregate.
Councilmember Schneeman noted that the city is not offering
driveway replacement as part of the project, but property owners can
contract separately with the city's contractor if they desire.
Councilmember Vitelli moved adoption of Resolution No. 01 -40,
"RESOLUTION APPROVING FINAL PLANS AND
SPECIFICATIONS AND AUTHORIZING ADVERTISEMENT
FOR BIDS FOR MARIE AVENUE MILL AND OVERLAY
PAVING PROJECT (IMPROVEMENT NO. 2001, PROJECT NO.
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Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
FAIRFIELD INN SIGNS Council acknowledged a memo from Assistant Hollister relative to a
request from the Tharaldson Development Company to relocate the
existing Fairfield Inn entrance sign. Mr. Dan Ordal was present on
behalf of Tharaldson.
Mr. Ordal showed a photo of the facility, which showed that most of
the entrance sign is obscured by trees.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Tharaldson originally requested
moving the sign to the other side of the inbound access lane, which
is about a I 1/2 foot concrete strip. He stated that the sign is six feet
tall, and it seems that the proposed location would be an improper
place to put a sign because it would hide cars backing out. The
problem is that the evergreen trees that hide the sign belong to the
Marriott. He suggested authorizing Tharaldson to move the sign
forward ten feet, which should be more than adequate for visibility.
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Public Works Director Danielson stated that he visited the site today
and placed stakes at the forward location and took photos.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that at this location, the farthest point of
the sign must be at least ten feet from the property line — it is not
placed 20 feet back. Council could grant that authorization, and if it
is not satisfactory to the Tharaldson Management, they can apply for
a variance.
Councilmember Dwyer moved to authorize Tharaldson
Development to relocate the Fairfield Inn entrance sign ten feet
further north, so that the most northerly most part of the sign is no
closer than ten feet from the property line.
Co-Lincilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
PUBLIC COMMENTS Mr. John Simplot, 1040 Douglas Road, was present to express his
concern over safety on the trails. He stated that he has diabetes and
two artificial hips and must exercise. Several times when he has
been walking, bicycles have come roaring by him and most have not
given him the courtesy of saying they are coming on the right or left.
Sometimes they come in pairs behind him and youth on skates come
behind him. There are caution signs in some of the metro parks that
ask bicyclists or skaters to alert walkers if they are trying to pass
them on their bikes or skates. He asked that signs be placed in
strategic locations along the trails.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that perhaps the city could install signs at
the entrance to city parks. He asked Assistant Hollister to place the
matter on the Parks and Recreation Commission agenda.
Mr. Simplot also asked that a notice be placed in the next city
newsletter.
HOCKEY TASK FORCE Council acknowledged the Hockey Task Force Final Report and
REPORT an associated memo from Administrator Lindberg. Mr. Larry
Craighead, chair of the task force, and task force member and former
Mayor Robert Lockwood were present for the discussion.
Mr. Craighead gave a brief history on the task force initiation and on
the hockey arena issue. He reviewed the objectives that Council had
set for the task force . He also briefly reviewed the discussions and
presentations made at the six task force meetings. St. Thomas
Academy needs 500 hours of ice time. There are about 1600 to 1800
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rentable hours of ice time for such a facility. Henry Sibley High
School's needs are already met by existing facilities. Mr. Craighead
informed Council on the Eagan Parks and Recreation Director's
presentation to the task force on financial information on the Eagan
facility. The task force also received a copy of a Springsted Report
done for ISD 276 regarding ice arenas. The information received
from Eagan, West St. Paul and Springsted regarding costs and
revenues were very similar.
Mr. Craighead stated that if there is to be an arena, the committee
feels it should have one sheet of ice with the potential for a future
second sheet, and seating for approximately 600 people on one side
of the arena. It would be similar to the West St. Paul facility and
would probably cost about $3 million excluding land. The
committee received memos from MHAA and from West St. Paul.
The committee also asked city staff member Guy Kullander to
prepare a study on costs for an adult sized soccer field and a baseball
field. The committee would like a soccer field and baseball field to
be included in addition to a hockey arena to serve the entire
committee. The city currently spends about.$359,000 annually on
parks and recreation (about 10% of the city budget). There is
another 10% on annual bonding costs for past park improvements.
Mr. Craighead reviewed typical ice time needs. There is little need
for ice time in the morning. Between 3:00 p.m. and 6:00 p.m., high
school programs rent ice time. Youth hockey is typically between
6:00 and 10:00 p.m. the committee feels that St. Thomas Academy
would fill up the 3:00 to 6:00 time block and MHAA would fill in
the 6:00 to 10:00 p.m. time block. Adult hockey typically would
occur after 10:00 p.m. Weekends would be youth hockey and free
skating. During the summer time, there would be little ice time
rental. The schedule from October 1 to mid-March would generate
the 1,800 hours of ice time. The facility would serve Visitation and
St. Thomas and MHAA, for about 1,200 hours of ice time. The
remaining ice time would be harder to sell, and the committee would
like to see St. Thomas and the MHAA be part of the plan to help rent
that additional ice time.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that Council's mission is to serve the
people of Mendota Heights. He asked how many youth who skate
for Visitation and St. Thomas live in Mendota Heights.
Mr. Craighead stated that the committee the city should be as
receptive to anyone coming to the city requesting services like this.
About 250 children who live in Mendota Heights are involved in the
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West St. Paul/ Mendota Heights youth hockey program. About 25%
of the St. Thomas students are from Mendota Heights and West St.
Paul. He did not know how many of the varsity team live in
Mendota Heights.
Mr. Tom Wilhelmy, 1017 Windwood Court, stated that from 1996
through the 2000 season, there were about 32 to 34 boys on the
varsity and junior varsity combined. During that time, between 30%
and 60% of the boys were from Mendota Heights.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that Council needs to identify as a
starting point the number of people from Mendota Heights who
would be using this facility.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that it is important to note that St.
Thomas is one entity and the other is MHAA, and MHAA is not
intended to be a feeder system for St. Thomas.
Mr. Craig head stated that there would be public open skating on
weekends, open hockey skating on weekday mornings, and figure
skating lessons. He felt that those programs would attract primarily
Mendota Heights residents. Responding to a question from
Councilmember Krebsbach, he stated that if there is a local figure
skating group, they would have access to ice time.
Mr. Craighead reviewed the task force recommendations. The
committee was generally supportive of the proposal to construct the
facility. The land that St. Thomas would be contributing should only
be part of the mix in the proposal that would help finance the
program. There should be a significant cash contribution over a
several year period of time to help pay for the costs for the arena for
St. Thomas use. St. Thomas should help to pay for some of the risk
of the non-prime time ice hours if they are difficult to sell, and there
should be a commitment from St. Thomas to help support those
hours. The committee felt that the feelings of the residents of
Mendota Heights are that there should be more athletic facilities in
the city and that there should be sufficient recreation opportunities
for all residents of the city. The committee felt that MHAA should
be part of the program and should make a long-term financial
commitment in helping to pay for the facility. (In the reports from
the other cities, both the youth hockey and the cities and the users of
the facility have helped immensely in paying for their share of the
ice time.) The task force feels that a soccer and baseball field should
be included in the proposal to round-out the package and address
some of the other cities needs — having adult sized soccer and
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baseball fields. The committee feels the facility could be financed
by general obligation bonds. He reviewed the projected per-
household costs for $3.5 million and $5 million in bonds.
Mr. Robert Lockwood stated that he was asked to speak, by the task
force, perhaps because he has lived in the city since it was a
township, has had experience in governance and someone who has
had no sons in his family to participate in football, baseball or
hockey and thus would perhaps champion the cause of people who
have no interest in hockey. He felt that there are enough people in
the city who would take an altruistic view of what is being proposed
and who would think that a reasonable increase in their taxes to pay
for such a facility might be warranted. From his perspective, the
bottom line would be something in the order of an additional $25 to
$35 of extra annual tax to the city. He did not think a bond issue
election would pass or that the proposal would be at all feasible at all
if it were to cost people $ 100 per year in additional tax. The idea of
a single facility adding 10% to the city's net tax levy for just one
type of recreation is not a reasonable figure. He stated that he would
support the urging of contributions of cash from interested
organizations.
Councilmember Schneeman asked Mr. Lockwood how he feels
about the addition of the soccer and adult baseball fields.
Mr. Lockwood responded that he is not in a position to know
whether they are necessary. He stated that he has been told there is a
shortage of soccer and baseball fields but also that he has talked to
one other person in the city who feels the existing fields are adequate
if they were efficiently used, and that they are not now efficiently
used. Financially, he felt that the size of the bond required to cover
everything would not fly unless there were a monstrous infusion of
donations. He stated that he still remains interested in seeing the
project go if at all possible, if it can be made to work somehow but it
would take some extreme generosity and ingenuity.
Mayor Mertensotto, commented that Mr. Lockwood, as a former
Mayor of the city for ten years or more, has a good feel for the
financial capability of the city. He noted that in comparison to the
other communities, the city has about 11,000 residents and a land
area of about 11 square miles, so it is very difficult to look at the
city's budget and population and present a proposal for a tax increase
of $100 per year. Council must also be very careful about whether
the city is in a position to commit $50,000 to $100,000 in operating
costs per year. The city does not receive local government aid like
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neighboring cities and will have no budgeting leeway and will be
restricted as to the amount of tax increase that can be generated.
Council may be looking at a tax increase this fall because the city
will no longer receive $475,000 in HACA aid next year. The net
affect of the recent changes in the tax laws is that the city's tax
capacity has come down. Hopefully the increase in tax capacity due
to new construction and remodeling will make up the reclassification
deduction. It appears that in order to meet ordinary inflation in the
2002 budget, Council will have to increase taxes. The concern is the
ability to handle future debt. The cheapest part of any project is to
build the structure: it is the cost of operating it after that that is a
concern.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that the governor's office indicates
that property owners will experience a tax decrease, but whether that
decrease will wash with the losses that Mendota Heights will
experience. If residents' tax bills are reduced by $500 or $600 a year
because of the recent legislation, perhaps people will be more willing
to approve a referendum if it means $75 to $ 100. He suggested that
the only way to know is to conduct a referendum.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that financing could be either through a
referendum or revenue bonds. There are possibly other ways to
finance the facility that have not yet been explored. He felt that adult
ball fields are needed, but that would have to be separate from any
issue. St. Thomas has offered 9 acres of land to the city on a 99 year
lease on the basis that the city would build the facility, parking lot,
etc., and St. Thomas would operate it but would not underwrite any
operating debt. The city would have to undertake that responsibility.
One possible way to finance the project would be for a separate non-
profit organization acquire land in the city and come up with
significant donations. The city could perhaps issue a revenue bond
for the non-profit and would guarantee the operation, or take it over,
if the non-profit could not pay the financing. The city would then
acquire ownership. He noted that the Springsted report indicated
that the five arenas that are operating in Dakota County, are seeing a
decrease in the demand for ice time because the competition is now
so great.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that the committee did an outstanding
job and what they have said is that if the city enters into the
arrangement with St. Thomas they must go into it with eyes wide
open and it must be understood that this would be a money-losing
deal. If the facility is shut down for six months of the year, breaking
even would probably be the best year, and operating expenses would
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be on top of the annual cost of the bonds. The city gladly pays the
operating costs of the existing park facilities because they benefit the
entire community. He pointed out that not only the hockey players
will benefit from an ice arena, their parents and families will benefit
as well.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that the task force report is
outstanding, and he complimented the task force. With regard to St.
Thomas participation, he stated that it appears that the Academy
benefits outweigh their contribution. Some of the benefits are that
they have no participation in operating deficit, right of first refusal
on ice time and right of first refusal if the facility is ever sold, and no
cash contribution to the investment other than the land. He
expressed disappointment in the contribution effort by St. Thomas.
Also, he noted that the Eagan athletic association contributed half a
million dollars to the Eagan facility, and the Minnetonka athletic
association contributed $1.5 million, but MHAA is offering nothing.
The report is short in that it recommends the baseball and soccer
fields but gives no compelling reason they are needed. Parks and
recreation expenditures were given for ten cities. He stated that he
took the budgets of those ten cities and divided them by the
population. The per capita expenditure is the fourth highest of the
ten communities in investment in parks and recreation. If the city
were to go ahead with the proposal, the per capita expense would
exceed the other cities.
Mr. Craighead responded that he does not know if the bonding for
the other cities is included in their costs. The Mendota Heights
figure includes existing bonding costs. Until it is known whether
bonding is included in the other cities' numbers, no conclusion
should be drawn. If Council wishes to proceed further, that
information should be known.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that Council should assume that levy
limits will keep the city's budget about the same this year, and if
Council went along with the proposal for the arena, Council would
have to cut $80,000 from the existing parks and recreation
operational budget. That would be about 22% of their budget. He
did not feel that the $5 million bond issue would be acceptable.
Lease /purchase bonding s not a good idea because it bypasses the tax
payers and the full cost of debt service on that bond would have to
be absorbed in the current operating budget and would wipe out the
entire parks and recreation budget. The only proposal that would
come close would be a $3.5 million general obligation bond where
St. Thomas would accept a $280,000 or $300,000 lease back of the
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facility. The city would be using its borrowing power to help St.
Thomas and St. Thomas would pay the $280,000 to $300,000 per
year and would have and run the facility. He stated that he cannot
support the proposal as it was submitted for a $5 million investment
and $75 per residence and could not even support going to a
referendum for that. He could support a proposal that would contain
the following. A proposal where the adult baseball and soccer fields
are eliminated. Secondly, he felt that if a $3.5 million arena were
built using a general obligation revenue bond and St. Thomas paying
a $280,000 to $300,000 lease back and a result of zero impact to tax
payers, that would be acceptable. He also felt that MHAA should be
thinking of contributing $250,000. He felt that Council should be
striving for a zero tax impact to the tax payers of Mendota Heights.
Councilmember Krebsbach commended Chair Craighead for his
leadership and the task force for its work- She noted that Council
selected task force members who were interested in hockey. She
applauded the task force for coming up with a report that moves
toward the center and gives Council a basis on which they can take a
look at it as opposed the city taking the responsibility for operating
costs and debt service. She stated that her position is comparable to
the report in that St. Thomas should contribute to the initial building
of the city and the city should not be responsible for the operating
costs. She felt that Council's responsibility is to the children in the
athletic association and St. Thomas has brought forth a way for the
city to have a hockey arena. While St. Thomas is a valued part of
the city, Council is responsible to provide a range of athletic
facilities to the community. She was also interested in the fact that
the arena might serve other skaters as well.
Mr. Lockwood stated that he had asked Treasurer Shaughnessy to
explain some items in the financial portion of the report. Treasurer
Shaughnessy pointed out that the report stated that the standard
number of hours that an ice arena would operate in a year is 1,600,
but 3,000 annual hours of operation would be required to make the
facility pay for itself.
Treasurer Shaughnessy stated that it would take 3,000 hours to
support the cost of a $5 million issue. He stated that the city can
levy tax and pay general obligation bonds for debt, but that the
legislature recently imposed a new levy limit, and without the ability
to have a special levy for bonds, the city is out of business for paying
any of the other costs of the facility.
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Mr. Frank Lang expressed his appreciation for the task force and
Council's efforts. He stated that most cities are moving to better free
skating programs and will find that arenas are not just for hockey.
This would be a multi - purpose program and would not be just for St.
Thomas. He did not believe that any city that has a hockey arena
that would remove it. The facility will be an asset to the city. St.
Thomas paid cash for the land, and there is $1.5 million in real value
for the land. He stated that the Springsted report motivated
Minnetonka to build a $6 million facility.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that Minnetonka is a much larger city
with greater revenues. The information in the Springsted report
pointed out that Council must know where it is going. There must
be demand for the facility. Henry Sibley has indicated that they
would like to buy more ice time, not that they need it. St. Thomas
expressed a limited need. He stated that no one has come forward in
the city to say that they need 250 — 350 hours of ice time for their
students and cannot find it anywhere. That would put things in a
different perspective. A big factor in budgeting is that the city does
not receive LGA and must be very careful. He asked if St. Thomas
would be willing to sell enough land to the city to build an ice arena.
He stated that, exclusive of the land, the city would have at least a $3
million expenditure. He pointed out that ice making equipment, etc.,
could last up to ten years, and replacement would be very expensive.
Selling ice time is not enough. He stated that if a non -profit could
come up with up front money and find a parcel of land, then the city
might consider building an arena. More than likely, St. Thomas
could operate the facility at less expense than the city.
Mr. Lang asked for the opportunity to find a feasible way to work
things out and build the asset for the city and St. Thomas. He stated
that he and the youth hockey people have the energy to do that.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that Council must figure out what to
do next. The task force has done a great deal of work and this is a
compelling issue.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he raised several points earlier in
the discussion. He encouraged Mr. Lang to pursue along those lines
and to try to get some money from the athletic association.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the land component must be separate
from St. Thomas Academy and the city would just be building the
arena and the parking ramp. One question would be what the
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location would be, and another would be what money can be
generated as a contribution up front.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked Mayor Mertensotto if he could see
a separate non-profit being formed that would own the arena.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that would be a possibility, with the city
underwriting the bonds in order to keep the interest rate down.
There could be a separate joint powers agreement if St. Thomas did
not have a reversionary interest back in the real estate, but St.
Thomas would not have contributed the $1.5 million (land value) in
real money. There could be ajoint powers agreement for operating
the facility. Those issues could all be worked out later.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that she read in the report that the
manager of the Eagan facility came before the committee and stated
that it relates to the philosophy of the community. She stated that
she sees many young people driving all over to take their children to
hockey and soccer. She felt that was an important issue. She also
felt something can be worked out and that adding a soccer field is
important. She commended the task force for its work.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that it would be fool hearty to go to the
electorate with a $5 million referendum.
Mr. Lang stated that he would like to see if he and others can use
some creativity to try to make this work. He asked that the
discussion be continued.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the task force has not offered to
continue on. Mr. Lang can work with any members of the
committee who wish to do so.
Councilmember Dwyer noted that there is a consensus that there
needs to be a great deal more work done on the issue if it is to be
something that Council can support.
Mr. Craighead stated that there are professionals who could come in
at this point and look at the issues and the financing in greater depth.
WMO PLAN Council acknowledged a memo from Engineer Marc Mogan
regarding the second generation Lower Mississippi River Watershed
Management Plan. Ms. Karen Chandler, from Barr Engineering,
was present to give Council a brief overview of the plan as it relates
to storm water resources in Mendota Heights.
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Ms. Chandler reviewed the history of the WMO, a history of the
1989 plan, projects that were completed under that plan. She then
reviewed the new plan, the role of the Lower Mississippi River
Water Management Organization, plan implementation, city
responsibilities and plan implementation costs. Cities will continue
to be the permitting agencies, and the WMO will assist with
intercommunity runoff and water management issues. She reviewed
plan implementation highlights. The WMO felt that it should focus
on trying to improve the quality of the storm water runoff that is
reaching the river to try and help keep it and feeder streams clean.
The city responsibilities through the plan include city preparation of
revisions to the local watershed management plan; management of
non - intercommunity water bodies, monitoring resources,
maintenance of storm water systems, development of an erosion and
sediment control ordinance and protection of wetlands. She
reviewed the costs of implementing the plan. A general fund is used
for administrative expenses. Those funds come from the cities.
Costs can be split based on tributary area, allowable flow and
relative phosphorus loading. Administrative tasks include reviewing
city plans, revising the Joint Powers Agreement, etc. The annual
general fund dues for the whole organization in 2000 were $60,000.
In 2001, the dues are $30,000. In 2000, Mendota Heights paid
$8,600 and in 2001 the dues from Mendota Heights will be about
$4,300. The administrative activities will go down over the years,
but other costs will be higher — such as runoff monitoring modeling.
Those were to be paid for according to tributory watershed. The
water quality studies will be done over five years, and the Mendota
Heights share is projected to be between $44,000 and $81,000 in
2002, $19,000 to $37,000 in 2003, and under $1,000 from 2004
through 2008. Because there is a lot of good information available
for Mendota Heights, the lower costs ($44,000 and $19,000) are
likely. She discussed the costs with the treasurer of the WMO and a
couple of things could happen: the costs can be spread over a longer
period of time, or the WMO could act as a bank.
Mayor Mertensotto asked if the federal government involvement in
funding. He pointed out that the federal government is concerned
about the Mississippi River water quality from St. Louis all the way
to St. Anthony Falls.
Ms. Chandler responded that the WMO can pursue outside funding,
whether it be the federal government, the Corps of Engineers, the
Metropolitan Council or the PCA.
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Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that the WMO would be trying to
clean up the river and the federal government should not put the
costs on the city.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Vitelli, Mayor
Mertensotto stated that the city has no choice about whether to
participate or to spend the money.
Councilmember Vitelli asked what the cost impact is to Mendota
Heights residents.
Public Works Director Danielson responded that several years ago
the city established a storm water utility fiend, and each property
pays a quarterly fee along with their sewer bill. That fund would be
used to pay the bill.
City Attorney Schleck stated that if the city chooses not to do this,
the county can do the work and impose a special levy on the city.
Ms. Chandler stated that each year the organization goes through a
budgeting process. The board is currently made up of city staff
members who take a very careful view of the effect on city taxes,
and there are ways that the costs can be spread out or that the work
can be reduced.
Councilmember Vitelli recommended that Ms. Chandler recommend
to the board that the expenditure plan be reduced by half or 60 %.
Ms. Chandler informed Council that the WMO attorney is currently
working on a revised Joint Powers Agreement that will be before the
City Council at the end of the year. The current agreement expires at
the end of this year.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she serves on the AMM board
and there is a lot more interest in watershed districts in the region
Ms. Chandler is from. The Mississippi is a federal water way, so
perhaps the city has less interest that Ms. Chandler might find in
other communities.
Councilmember Vitelli informed Ms. Chandler that the city will
likely be impacted by a levy limit and will also lose nearly $500,000
and there is no way to increase the WMO expenditure. The board
must cut out at least 50 %.
Council thanked Ms. Chandler for her presentation.
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CASE NO. 01 -26, KRAVITZ Council acknowledged an application from Mr. Gary Kravitz and
Ms. Anna Shore for a wetlands permit to allow application of an
erosion control net within 100 feet of a creek at 739 Knollwood
Court to reestablish of vegetation on a slope located between the
home and the creek. Council also acknowledged associated reports
from staff and from the applicant's consultants. Mr. Steve Getty,
from Getty Construction, and Ms. Shore were present for the
discussion.
Ms. Shore showed photographs of her property. She stated that she
is not asking for financial assistance in stabilizing the area of her
back yard that washed out last year. She stated that she has had
several conversations with city engineering staff at the time of the
washout. Ms. Shore reviewed the site plan for her property.
Responding to a question from Mayor Mertensotto, Ms. Shore stated
that the material that fell down was not supporting anything and was
mostly loose fill area. The footing of the house is sitting on a wall.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that this goes to the same issue as
the Berg property. She asked to what extent Council is capable of
making this decision.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council does not have that capability.
The report the applicants got from GME consultants included a
disclaimer that professional judgment is required in coming up with
a solution. Council does not want the applicants to come back in the
future if this fails and say that the city should never have approved a
wetlands permit only to find that this is not the solution to the
problem. Council does not have the professional judgment to do
that. While Council has jurisdiction to grant wetlands permits and
does so if the criteria are met. In this case, there is a slope problem
into a wetlands area, and that is what wetlands permits are all about.
Council has the authority to allow the applicants to bypass the
Planning Commission process in order to expedite repair of the
slope. He stated that the resolution that was drafted should be
revised to contain a provision that the owner is fully aware that the
city has the jurisdiction to grant the permit but lacks the professional
judgment to determine as to the merits of the project. Then the
applicants would know full that Council is not telling them that the
city has reviewed the engineering drawings and this will work. The
applicants must be fully aware in asking for this permit that the city
does not have the professional judgment to determine the merits of
the project.
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Ms. Shore agreed that the condition is satisfactory and stated that all
they want to do is repair their back yard and it has never been their
intent to ask for city determination that the project will work.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the resolution must be amended to
include a whereas stating that the applicants, being the homeowners
of the property at 739 Knollwood Court are fully aware that the city
has the authority to grant the wetland permit and bypass the public
hearing required at the Planning Commission but that the city fully
discloses that it does not have the professional judgment to
determine the merits of the applicants' project and to that extent the
city cannot grant any assurance that this project will stabilize the
slope.
Councilmember Dwyer pointed out that the city disclaims any
liability arising form the project.
As a point of discussion, Councilmember Krebsbach stated that
Council is in no way looking at the aesthetics. She asked what
responsibility the city has with regard to aesthetics.
Councilmember Schneeman pointed out that the property backs up to
the falls and no one will see it.
Ms. Shore responded that the fence is designed to allow the
vegetation to grow through so that the root structure will establish
itself in a very short time.
Councilmember Vitelli moved adoption of Resolution No. 01 -41, "A
RESOLUTION APPROVING A WETLANDS PERMIT FOR 739
KNOLLWOOD COURT," as amended.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
MENDOTA SCHOOL Council acknowledged a request from Mendota Elementary School
PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT Principal Steven Goldade for city financial assistance for upgrading
the playground equipment at the Mendota Elementary School.
Council also acknowledged an associated report from Assistant
Hollister. Mr. Lenny Axelrod, a parent and member of the Mendota
Elementary playground committee was also present.
Mr. Goldade stated that the school has gathered parents and district
staff to come up with a comprehensive plan on what they would like
to do to finish the school site over the next one to 20 years. They
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worked with the architect firm TKDA and came up with an elaborate
plan, but he and others are here tonight to talk with Council with one
small piece. There is a playground to the north of the building that is
used by the students during recess and also by the community.
Families come up and play at the playground over the summer
months. It has been 8 to 10 years since the playground has been
updated, and the group has spent nine months talking about safety,
handicapped accessibility and what would be fun for students and
community members. They have come up with a plan to purchase
about $22,000 worth of playground equipment from Earl F.
Anderson Equipment to tie into what already exists. He reviewed
the highlights of the proposed playground. This is a joint effort
between the district and the PTA, which has done a major part of the
Rindraising. The total cost will be about $32,000. The school
district will fund $8,000. The PTA has donated $26,000.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the school has asked the Parks and
Recreation Commission to recommend contributing $8,000 from the
Special Park Fund, yet funding already exceeds the playground
costs. He asked what that would go for.
Mr. Goldade stated that the Park Commission stated that they would
;- want the money to go towards equipment. They recommended a
f third of the equipment cost up to a total contribution of $8,000.
Right now, the equipment cost is $22,666. The $2,000 that is left
over would be used for new blacktop.
Cotuncilmember Dwyer pointed out that the total cost is $32,000 and
funding is $34,000.
Mr. Goldade stated that the total cost is not $32,000. $6,000 was
spent for consultants and that was funded through PTA
contributions. In addition, the re will also be new blacktop to the
north of the building, costing $5,000. There is $2,000 needed to
remove the old equipment, and $1,000 needed for new pea rock..
The school district is paying for those costs. The total cost is
$40,000.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that Council needs to know why
the school needs $8,000 from the city.
Mr. Goldade responded that the students who attend the school are
members of the community, and they are also using it after school
time. The city contribution would only go towards equipment, since
that was the Park Commission condition.
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Mayor Mertensotto stated that if Council adopts the commission
recommendation to spend $8,000 out of the special park fund, the
city would require that the money not be paid until the project is
complete.
Councilmember Dwyer pointed out that the recommendation was
$8,000 or one-third of the cost of the equipment, whichever is less.
Mr. Goldade stated that the current bid for equipment is $22,666, so
the school would be asking for one-third of that.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Schneeman, Mr.
Goldade stated that Mendota School houses the district's Autism
program and another special program called the MMI program, and
there are about 25 students in both those programs. The play
equipment is geared to those children as well.
Councilmember Dwyer moved to authorize an $8,000 expenditure
from the Special Park. Commission with the condition that the
$8,000 be a contribution towards playground equipment for
installation at Mendota Elementary and that the school district be
entitled to reimbursement from the city upon completion and
certification that the project has been completed.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
DRAFT ORDINANCE, Council acknowledged a memo from Assistant Hollister regarding
TREATMENT FACILITIES a proposed amendment to the Zoning Ordinance to create a
conditional use for residential treatment facilities in the B -1 Zone.
Council also acknowledged a letter from City Attorney Dan Schleck
and the proposed amending language.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she wants to be sure how the
property is guided in the Comprehensive Plan so that the city is not
spot zoning.
Attorney Schleck responded that the property is guided LB-PUD.
The definition of LB-PUD states that all the conditions of B -1 must
be met. The reason Haven Chemical is not seeking rezoning to LB-
PUD is because five acres are required for a PUD. The city does not
want them to have to go through the variance process on the PUD
since the conditions are the same with respect to B -1 and LU-PUD.
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July 24, 2001
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she has two concerns. One is
that the city has a tradition of not spot-zoning, and she wanted to
confirm that this is not spot zoning.. She stated that Council
received and rejected a proposal for a Holiday gas station at this site
in the past, partly because there was not enough space there for a gas
station. She wanted to make sure that by rezoning to B -1 Council
would not be implementing a change that would have longer range
implications for that part of the city. She was concerned that at some
point someone would come in with a gas station proposal and by
rezoning to B-I Council might be laying the groundwork that would
allow that type of facility.
Attorney Schleck stated that is definitely a concern. One of the
things that he tried to do is address the fact that the property is
actually guided for B-1 businesses. The way case law has gone
recently on zoning is that zoning is not supposed to guide the guide
plan, the guide plan is supposed to guide the zoning. Because it is
guided for B-1 businesses now, the thought was that in developing
the comprehensive plan the intent was to have this part of the city be
B-I rather than B-Residential.
Councilmember Krebsbach noted that Mayor Mertensotto was on
Council when it received a proposal for the Holiday gas station. She
asked him to speak to that issue.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the problem is that it is a limited
amount of land area. Also, there are some constraints from an
infrastructure standpoint. By statute, Council is obligated to permit
this type of facility in an R -1 District.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she understands that the
comprehensive plan takes precedence, but she wondered if there is
another way to allow this as a permitted use other than recognizing
this as a B-1 Zone.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that the homes that are there now will
not serve a residential purpose any more. There are three homes on
Condon Court. The treatment center will be in the Condon home,
and Bjorklund Construction is running its business out of another of
the homes. Bjorklund had asked for rezoning of its property to B-2
or B-3 to allow a gas station and convenience store. They needed
parking and utilities and a 40 to 50 foot tall sign.
Councilmember Dwyer pointed out that traffic congestion was a
chief concern.
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July 24, 2001
Attorney Schleck stated that the property is guided for LB -PUD,
limited business, and everything that is eligible in a B -1 district is
eligible in a LB -PUD district. It is important to note that the
instruction he received from Council was to look at this and develop
an ordinance so that treatment centers could be a conditional use in
some type of zoning area so that a facility like this would not have to
go through the variance process. It is a fundamental question for the
Council on whether they want this to be a conditional use in all R -1
districts in the city or within the B -1 district, which is what the
property is guided for.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that her first interest in an
ordinance was for a process that would give some protection in
residential areas for residential treatment facilities. The more she
thought about this, her concern switched to initiating this as a B -1
district. Council must be aware that in fact it would be beginning a
process, with no recourse other than to change the guide plan so that
the city would not end up with a convenience station at that corner.
That would not only impact the schools but would also impact
Bridgeview Shores.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that a convenience store /gas station would
never work given the close proximity to the intersection of Dodd and
Mendota Heights Road. That would be a chaos from a traffic
standpoint. Somewhere in zoning, Council must provide for
residential treatment The City Attorney felt that it would be best to
put residential treatment as a conditional use in B -1. He stated that
he reviewed and amended the language prepared by Attorney
Schleck and added a violation provision. Although the people who
bought the property are professionals in treatment, they could sell the
property to investors and just be consultants and end up with a group
home for ten adults. That is the advantage of the conditional use
process. He reviewed the conditions stated in the draft amendment.
Councilmember Schneeman was concerned about the condition that
no one stay in the facility longer than 30 days. She asked what
would happen if circumstances change and 45 days become the norm
for treatment rather than 30 days.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that the treatment facility could ask
for an amendment. He asked how the city monitors how long people
are at the facility. He asked if the city has the right to monitor. He
suggested that perhaps another condition would be an annual audit.
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July 24, 2001
Attorney Schleck stated that as long as the conditions relate to public
health and welfare, it could impose an audit.
Mayor Mertensotto pointed out that the proposed ordinance contains
a clause that Council can impose any additional factors it determines
necessary to assess the impact of the proposed facility.
Assistant Hollister informed Council that three public hearings have
been scheduled, in the following order, for the coming Planning
Commission meeting. The first hearing would be to amend the B-1
Zoning District to allow treatment facilities as a conditional use, the
second would be to rezone the Condon property to B-1. The third
would be a public hearing about granting the conditional use permit
to Haven. Staff is asking this evening if Council has any suggestions
for language to incorporate into the draft amendment prior to the
Planning Commission hearing. The city is initiating the hearing to
amend the ordinance language, and Haven has submitted
applications for rezoning and conditional use permit.
Responding to a comment from Councilmember Dwyer, Attorney
Schleck stated that he has had discussions with the applicant's legal
counsel and they are fully aware they are applying for something that
does not exist yet and no promises have been made that everything
will happen.
Assistant Hollister stated that the Visitation properties and all three
of the residential properties on Condon Court all have the underlying
comprehensive guidance of LB-PUD, which is equivalent to B -1
zoning. What is being considered is to take the southern most
residential parcel and zone it to B-1, bringing it into conformance
with its underlying guidance. A distinction must be made between
B -1 and B-2. LB-PUD only refers to B-1, and gas stations are not
conditional or permitted uses in B-1. They are conditional uses in B-
2, and if this parcel is ultimately rezoned to B -1 and that encourages
the other two residential parcels to petition the city rezone to B-1,
rezoning them to B-1 would not suddenly allow a gas station to be
there.
Mayor Mertensotto recommended adopting the Zoning Ordinance
amendment this evening so that the language is in place for the
Planning Commission to act on the applications. Responding to
Council questions, he stated that adopting the amendment does not
require Planning Commission hearing, but does require an extra-
ordinary vote. I
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Assistant Hollister informed Council that public notice has already
been given that a public hearing will be held on the ordinance
amendment on July 31.
Councilmember Dwyer moved to approve the revisions prepared by
Mayor Mertensotto, for inclusion in the draft ordinance language to
be submitted to the Planning Commission.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before Council,
Co-uncilmember Krebsbach moved that the meeting be adjourned to
closed session for discussion with the city's legal counsel and realtor
regarding Town Center property acquisition.
Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 10:30 p.m.
Kathleen M. Swanson
City Clerk
ATTEST:
Wn
Charles E. Mertensotto
Mayor