2002-11-19 City Council minutesPage No. 1
November 19, 2002
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF NffNNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, November 19, 2002
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, Minnesota was held at 7:30 o'clock p.m. at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights,
Minnesota. The following members were present: Mayor Mertensotto, Councilmembers Dwyer,
Schneeman and Vitelli. Councilmember Krebsbach had notified Council that she would be absent.
AGENDA ADOPTION Councilmember Schneeman moved adoption of the revised agenda
for the meeting.
Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Councilmember Schneeman moved approval of the minutes of the
regular meeting held on October 15, 2002.
Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Councilmember Schneeman moved approval of the amended
minutes of the regular meeting held on November 5, 2002.
Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
CONSENT CALENDAR Councilmember Vitelli moved approval of the consent calendar for
the meeting, revised to move items 5, and 5, to the regular agenda,
along with authorization for execution of any necessary documents
contained therein.
a. Approval of the minutes of the November 6, 2002 Election
Canvassing Board meeting.
b. Acknowledgment of the Treasurer's monthly report for October.
c. Acknowledgment of LMCIT insurance renewal and waiver of
additional liability coverage.
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d. Approval of the issuance of a sign permit to Spectrum Sign
Systems to fabricate and install a sign for Tempco Manufacturing C
Corporation for its space at 2444 Enterprise Drive.
e. Approval to proceed with the refunding of the G.O. Park Bonds.
f. Adoption of Resolution No. 02 -66, "A RESOLUTION
SEEKING FUNDING FROM DAKOTA COUNTY FOR
CONTINUATION OF THE COMMUNITY LANDFILL
g. Approval of the list of contractor licenses dated November 19,
2002.
h. Approval of the List of Claims dated November 19, 2002 and
totaling $427,393.18.
Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF Council acknowledged a memo from the City Clerk recognizing
ELECTION PERSONNEL and expressing appreciation to the election judges and city staff
members who participated in the November 5 election process.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that the election day processing was
extraordinarily long because of the need to hand count the senate
ballots and remake absentee ballots, and many of the judges worked
from 6:00 a.m. to between 12:45 a.m. and 3:30 a.m. the following
day. He recognized the five precinct chair people, Sally
Countryman, Bill Burke, Jean Franson, Laurita Weinzettel, and Rita
Maczko, and city staff members Janet Bolger, Emmy Foster, Guy
Kullander, Tom Olund, Cathy Ransom, Kristen Schabacker, Linda
Shipton and Judy Wonick, for their time and efforts and gave special
acknowledgment to Nancy Bauer.
Mayor Mertensotto noted that over forty residents served as election
judges, and the election process was a collaborative effort of all of
the judges.
Councilmember Vitelli moved to recognize and express appreciation
to all of the precinct judges and city staff members who participated
in the November 5 election process.
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Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
DEER HUNT Council acknowledged a memo and proposed resolution from
Administrator Lindberg regarding extension of the limited deer
control bow hunt.
Councilmember Schneeman asked if the city has received a report on
the success of the hunt to date.
Administrator Lindberg responded that the hunters have taken seven
of the fifteen deer they were authorized to take. The Metro
Bowhunter's Association has requested an extension through the end
of the hunting season.
Councilmember Schneeman moved adoption of Resolution No. 02-
67, "RESOLTUION AUTHORIZING AN EXTENSION TO THE
LIMITED DEER CONTROL BOW HUNT ON PRIVATE
PROPERTY DURING THE 2002 STATE DEER HUNTING
SEASON."
Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays:0
GEESE HUNTING Mr. Clifford Timm was present to request Council consideration of
an ordinance amendment that would allow limited hunting of
Canadian Geese in the city limits. Council acknowledged an
associated memo from the City Administrator and a memo and
proposed ordinance are being considered by the City of Inver Grove
Heights.
Mr. Timm stated that he has contributed money to making Rogers
Lake a clean lake and spent lots of time to get phosphorous out of the
fertilizer and the geese are ruining the small bodies of water in the
city. Also, athletes are playing under barnyard conditions. He feels
that the DNR will be sued because residents are losing the ability to
enjoy their parks. The DNR now allows discharge of guns and
people can take as many gees as they like. He contacted the owner
of a packing plant in South St. Paul and he will process the geese and
give them to the poor. Since he believes that goose down is worth
more than the meat, he called the Fish and Wildlife Service at Fort
Snelling about allowing the packing plant to sell the goose down.
The person he spoke to is going to send him some literature, and the
Service is cooperating. Whether the City Council turns down his
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request to allow shooting or not, he is in contact with Senator
Metzen and Congresswoman McCollum to try to get something
done. He asked that Council give the police department the right to
shoot the geese.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that Mr. Timm's efforts are to be
lauded and that he appreciates that Mr. Timm went to the processing
plant and that the plant will process and distribute geese to needy
people at no cost. The state did a survey and 86% of the people who
received geese through a similar program would use the goose
product again if it was offered. A second survey found that 100% of
the recipients would again use the product. The problem is that
Mendota Heights is not the only place were geese propagate. Last
Saturday there were perhaps thousands of geese on Rogers Lake and
even more on the cemetery property. There is no way they all
propagate in Mendota Heights. He felt the restriction against
discharging firearms in the city has worked well for many years.
Geese can be captured during the malting season, and while he
realizes that may have to be held up until the geese are big enough to
process, it is an option. He pointed out that this is a bigger problem
than Mendota Heights can handle.
Mr. Timm stated that the West St. Paul police chief said he had a
good idea but other cities must participate. South St. Paul does not
have a problem. He spoke to someone in St. Paul who told him to
go ahead and take care of it in the suburbs. If Council turns him
down, he will take it back to the legislators and the DNR. If police
hunted the geese all over the Twin Cities it would really help.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that he was at the home of people who
live on Rogers Lake last Thanksgiving and the children and some of
the adults were playing tag football in the yard and when they came
into the house, their clothes were covered in goose droppings. He
agreed that this is a major problem. If this were something less
bucolic than Canadian Geese everyone would be excited about it and
would be taking it much more seriously. The E -Coli problem is
serious and something needs to be done on a metro wide basis.
There is an agency that controls mosquitoes, and perhaps there needs
to be a goose eradication agency. He did not think Mendota Heights
will start allowing the discharge of firearms because the community
is too populated, and the police have better things to do than killing
geese.
Mr. Timm suggested hiring professional hunters.
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Councilmember Dwyer responded that the matter requires study and
j if Mr. Timm is asking tonight that Council amend the ordinance and
allow the discharge of guns, Council is not going to do that tonight.
He felt the problem is a metro wide problem.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Mr. Timm stated that if Council denies his request, he would like
something in writing so that he can take it to the legislators.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Mr. Timm would like some support
from a municipal body. The DNR says that open space is too limited
for discharge of firearms. The issue is elimination, not hunting, but
people walk around the lakes and in the open spaces, and discharging
firearms would be unsafe.
Councilmember Dwyer recommended that the city write a letter that
Mr. Timm can take to the legislators, saying that Mr. Timm has
requested the Council to amend the ordinance and Council is not
inclined to do so, but considers the goose problem a health problem
and feels it is a metro wide problem and that the city would
cooperate on a metro -wide basis.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that she would be glad to go to
the legislators with Mr. Timm, but that there must be a metro wide
solution.
Councilmember Dwyer moved to direct Administrator Lindberg to
prepare a letter to Senator Metzen, Congresswoman McCollum,
State. Representative Pugh and the DNR, stating that Council is not
amenable to amending the firearms discharge ordinance and
recognizes that the goose problem is extremely large and is creating
a pollution hazard for natural water bodies and is a health hazard.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Mr. Gary Loufek, Environmental Studies teacher and cross country
ski coach for St. Thomas Academy, stated that he has been before
Council many times in the past because of the water studies his
students have done on Rogers Lake. He introduced three of his
students, Mr. Lenz, Mr. Bader and Mr. Costello, who are concerned
about the goose problem:
Mr. Lenz stated that he understands the concern about discharging
firearms but asked about a controlled bow hunt on private property.
The situation is horrible at Mendakota Country Club in the fall and
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spring because of fecal matter on the grounds. It is so bad on Rogers
Lake that if he fell into the water, he would burn his clothes.
Councihnember Dwyer stated that Council's information is that the
controlled goose hunt would be a band -aid approach. It really needs
to be addressed metro wide.
Mr. Bader stated that he is a member of Mendakota and they have
hired people to chase the geese away and it worked for a while.
What he learned is that geese are territorial. If something was done
in this area, it might affect the problem. It is a major problem and
something must be done.
Mr. Pat Costello stated that he lives in Como Park and the Como
Golf Course still has a problem. He was originally from Eagan and
the problem is significant there also. He stated that shooting is not
allowed in either city and something needs to be done as an
alternative to shooting.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council cannot just let hunters shoot
the geese because someone would have to manage them and
someone needs to do the reporting and record keeping for the DNR.
There is a bow hunting organization for deer and they have special
certifications to do that. He did not know if such an organization
exists for geese. He expressed Council's appreciation for everyone
coming and making comments.
Mr. Jerry Nelson stated that he supports Mr. Timm's efforts. He
stated that when he goes goose hunting in the west, farmers shoot
very loud guns that sound like cannons and thousands of geese take
off.
TOWN CENTER BID AWARD Council acknowledged a memo from Engineer Mogan regarding bids
received for the Town Center, Freeway Road and Augusta Shores
areas public improvements.
Engineer Mogan informed Council that bids were opened on
November 15. The low bidder, Richard Knutson, Inc., contacted
him on Monday morning advising that he had reviewed the bid
abstract and discovered an error in the price he quoted for 60" pipe
and requested that an adjustment be made. The unit price quoted
was $31.50 and should have been $60.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
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Mayor Mertensotto stated that as long as the bidder advised the city
of the error before any action was taken, they have the right to the
correction.
Engineer Mogan stated that the correction is about $35,000.
Knutson is a very reputable company and has done work for the city
in the past.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that if the $35,000 is added to their
bid, Knutson's bid will still be $200,000 less than the next lowest
bid.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that if Knutson notified the city before
Council action, Council must adjust the bid accordingly. Everything
is still the same in the bid except the one item. Council must make
the award in the correct amount. Council must accept the bids and
award the contract to the lowest responsible bidder, and if in fact the
low bidder desires to contract with the city, the other bid bonds can
be returned.
Councilmember Dwyer moved adoption of Resolution No. 01 -68,
"RESOLUTION ACCEPTING BIDS AND AWARDING
CONTRACT FOR BIDS FOR TOWN CENTER
REDEVELOPMENT/FREEWAY ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD,
AUGUSTA SHORES AND SURROUNDING AREAS,
IMPROVEMENT NOS. 9906,200202 &9904 STATE AID
PROTECT NO. 140 -010- 005," as amended to acknowledge that
Richard Knutson, Inc. had notified the city that they made a line item
mistake in the unit price for 60 inch pipe and upon correction, that
adds approximately $34,740, bringing the low bid to $1,714,576.81,
still being less than the other bids.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that once the contract is executed, the
bonds submitted by the other bidders will be returned.
CASE NO. 02 -40, Council acknowledged an application from Mr. Ronald Kammueller
KAMMUELLER for a three foot sideyard setback variance to allow construction of a
garage addition at 1250 Dodd Road. Council also acknowledged
associated staff reports.
Mr. Kammueller stated that the house was built in 1946 with a single
car garage and an additional stall was added to the back of the garage
in 1965. The garage is twelve feet wide. He is in the process of
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replacing the garage roof and would like to widen the garage so that
he has room to get in and out of the garage. He is only proposing to
increase the width on one side of the garage and would like to extend
the south side of the garage three feet into the setback. He has
reviewed his proposal with his neighbors and they are in agreement.
Councilmember Schneeman noted that the Planning Commission
voted 510 in favor of approving the variance.
Mr. Kammueller stated that he is trying to fix his place up. He could
not come to the November 5 Council meeting because his mother
was ill. He stated that the Planning Commission had a concern about
the house becoming a duplex, but there is no chance of that, and that
is not the intent. All he is trying to do is make the garage big enough
to get out of his car.
Councilmember Schneeman moved adoption of Resolution No. 02-
69, "A RESOLUTION APPROVING A THREE -FOOT SIDE
YARD SETBACK VARIANCE FOR A GARAGE ADDITION AT
1250 DODD ROAD."
Councilmember Dwyer seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
PACE ASSESSMENT Council acknowledged a letter from Mr. & Mrs. Robert Pace
requesting Council to waive the interest on a deferred watermain
assessment for 991 Wagon Wheel Trail. Council also acknowledged
associated staff reports.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he is concerned that the survey for the
subdivision of the parcel shows a single driveway serving two
structures, which is contrary to city ordinances. A lot must abut a
public roadway, and there are no shared driveways in the city except
one on Wentworth which was allowed because of wetlands
problems.
Mr. Pace responded that he has sold the lot and the people who
bought it will be coming in for a driveway.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that the shared drive would be inconsistent
with the ordinance. In order to have a shared driveway, a variance
would be required and the new owners will need to apply for a
variance.
Mr. Pace responded that there will not be a shared driveway.
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Public Works Director Danielson stated that at the time Mr. Pace
submitted his lot division application, he needed a wetlands permit
and designed his house to be 100 feet away from the wetlands.
There was not discussion about a shared driveway at that time. If he
applies for a permit with a shared driveway, the Code Enforcement
Officer will reject it.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Mr. Pace needs to acknowledge that
the sketch he submitted is inaccurate and it is not intended that the
subdivision include a single access to both structures.
Mr. Pace stated that his letter regarding the assessment speaks for
itself. From his way of thinking, when his grandmother died and the
estate went through probate and his father inherited the property, the
county was contacted. When he bought the land from his father, they
never found any liens. After he submitted his subdivision
application, the city found the deferment. His feeling is that it
should have been caught before. The county could not find anything
and his feeling is that it was never filed by the city. If it had been
found, he would not have to pay it.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that the city never defers assessments
unless a land owner requests it. The assessment roll is adopted based
on a cost figure of front foot, so the land owner had to ask for a
deferment. The city is not trying to tax people out of their homes
because a property needs sewer an water.
Councilmember Dwyer asked whether what the city is saying is that
in 1983 there was a discussion between the land owner and the city
over the $2,192 assessment and there was an agreement that the
owner would not have to pay it then and it would be deferred. He
asked when it would be paid.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that it would be paid when the land
gets subdivided.
Mr. Pace asked whether the assessment should not be registered with
the county so that people know it has to be paid.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that if a property is sold for
development and the land is subdivided, the applicant has to check
with the local government.
City Attorney Schleck stated that the law did not require that the
assessments be recorded with the county prior to 1983. The Paces
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said in their letter that on the advice of their banker they did not buy
title insurance. He asked whether a title search was done.
Mr. Pace responded that the bank possibly did, but he did not
purchase title insurance.
Attorney Schleck stated that if Mr. Pace had purchased the
insurance, the title insurance would be paying the full amount,
including interest. That is what title insurance is for.
Mrs. Pace stated that she looked up on the Internet and it said that
the assessment should have been paid when the lot was sold.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that what triggers the assessment is the
subdivision of the lot. The unused portion of the lot is now being
used. The lot could have been sold several times before without
triggering the assessment. The lot was split and there is a buyer —
that triggered the assessment.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that the same thing occurred
when the Dalglishs' split their lot.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that the Pace offer to the city is to pay
the principle but not the interest. The property has benefited from
this improvement since 1983, and 10% was the interest rate at that
time.
Mr. Pace stated that if this had happened five years ago it would
have been recorded with the county. It wasn't, and he has to pay the
assessment. He is coming to Council to see if it can be reduced.
Mayor Mertensotto responded that the problem is the 10% interest.
He pointed out that the land price is different than it was in 1983.
He asked what the average interest rate has been over the last 18
years.
Public Works Director Danielson stated that the rate was high when
the roll was adopted, but has typically been 7 to 8% since that time.
Councilmember Dwyer asked if Council can say it will charge Mr.
Pace the principle plus 7 to 8% interest.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that Council can agree to a lower rate if
Mr. Pace agrees to pay it at one time so that the assessment does not
need to be certified. Based on the Paces' plea for consideration,
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Council can adjust the interest rate from 10% to 7% and let the city
staff recalculate the interest amount on the basis that Mr. Pace agrees
to pay it and not request certification.
Mr. Pace agreed.
Councilmember Dwyer moved to modify the interest rate on the
condition that the Paces submit a check to the city for the principle
amount plus the recalculated amount of interest.
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
JOINT AIRPORT ZONING Council acknowledged a memo from Administrator Lindberg
BOARD regarding discussion of the Joint Airport Zoning Board
Indemnification Agreement.
Mayor Mertensotto stated that he is concerned because he feels that
the document is a joint powers agreement rather than an
indemnification agreement. He feels Council should defer the matter
for at least several months. He stated that he does not know what the
other communities are going to do.
Councilmember Dwyer stated that he has remaining concerns about
the items Attorney Schleck has identified, and he is one of the people
on the board, along with Councilmember Krebsbach. He agreed that
the matter should be deferred.
Administrator Lindberg informed Council that she spoke to
Councilmember Krebsbach and she was of the same mind about
deferring the item. She further stated that she has also spoken to
representatives of a number of the communities and several have not
yet signed the agreement.
Councilmember Dwyer moved to defer further action on the Joint
Airport Zoning Board indemnification agreement.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
AIRPORT NOISE Mr. Guy Heide was present regarding a draft letter from the city to
the MAC Chair. Mr. Heide stated that his committee will defer to
Council on the matter.
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Mayor Mertensotto stated that the letter urges MAC to work with the
city.
Mr. Heide stated that the letter has become just a nice letter. In his
mind, the additional sentence recommended by the city attorney
weakened the letter.
It was the consensus that the letter be signed and submitted to MAC
Chair Nichols.
TRUTH IN TAXATION Administrator Lindberg reminded Council that the truth in
HEARING taxation hearing is scheduled for 7:30 p.m. on December 2 for
anyone who would like to come in and discuss their tax statement.
Since it is not a Council meeting, a quorum of Council is not
required.
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before Council,
Councilmember moved that the meeting be adjourned.
Councilmember seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 8:55 p.m.
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Ka rIefen M. Swanson
City Clerk
ATTEST:
Charles E. Mertensotto
Mayor