2003-03-18 City Council minutesPage No. 1
March 18, 2003
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Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, March 18, 2003
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, Minnesota was held at 7:30 o'clock p.m. at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights,
Minnesota.
CALL TO ORDER Mayor Huber called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. The following
members were present: Mayor Huber, Councilmembers Duggan,
Krebsbach, Schneeman and Vitelli.
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Ayes: 5
Nays:0
The City Council, audience and staff recited the Pledge of
Allegiance.
Councilmember Duggan moved adoption of the revised agenda for
the meeting.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Councilmember Duggan moved approval of the amended minutes of
the regular meeting held on March 4, 2003.
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
CONSENT CALENDAR Councilmember Duggan moved approval of the consent calendar for
the meeting, revised to move items 6c, parks capital improvement
plan, 6e, park needs study, 6f police chief appointment, and 6h,
sanitary sewer backup, to the regular agenda, along with
authorization for execution of any necessary documents contained
therein.
a. Acknowledgment of the minutes of the March 11, 2003 Parks
and Recreation Commission meeting.
b. Acknowledgment of information on the proposed skate park in
the Rogers Lake Park.
c. Authorization for furniture purchases for the police department
and Finance Director.
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d. Authorization for the issuance of a purchase order to Pearson
Bros., Inc., for 2003 street sweeping for their low bid of $64.00
per hour.
e. Approval of the list of contractor licenses dated March 18, 2003.
f. Approval of the List of Claims dated March 18, 2003 and
totaling $194,193.92.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
PARKS CAPITAL PLAN/ Council acknowledged a memo from Parks Project Manager Guy
NEEDS STUDY Kullander along with the revised project schedule for the parks five
year capital improvement plan proposed by the Parks and Recreation
Commission. Council also acknowledged a memo regarding
updating the park and recreation facility needs study.
Mayor Huber stated that the original consent calendar included
acknowledgment of the capital improvement plan and at the same
time updating the parks need study. He asked if the two items are
being kept in concert and if everything in 2003 in the plan would be
consistent with needs.
Mr. Kullander responded that this is the third year of the 2001 -5
capital improvement plan. The plan was originally developed to
meet the needs identified when the original needs study was
prepared. Each year, the commission reviews what has been done
and what remains. A few projects that had not been completed were
carried over to 2003, leaving nearly $200,000 of projects this year.
He asked the commission to review and prioritize the 2003,2004 and
2005 projects because of staff time availability.
Mayor Huber stated that the Wentworth warming house is still in the
plan for 2003.
Mr. Kullander responded that it will get more discussion. The
commission left it in because Council had approved $20,000 for
upgrading. At the last Council discussion on the issue, Council
asked staff to investigate the foundation and timber in the existing
structure before a decision is made. The commission still wants a
new one. He will report to Council in May about the condition of
the warming house.
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Councilmember Schneeman stated that Council did have some
concerns and there was also discussion about a multi -use building.
She felt there needs to be further discussion.
Mr. Kullander stated that the commission feels that if Council does
not do the remodeling, they will look at building a new structure in
2004 or 2005 and look at additional uses.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that it appears that the special park
fund will be depleted from $300,000 to $125,000 over a two year
period. He asked whether the fund will be in trouble in two more
years and if the balance will be at zero in 2007.
Mr. Kullander responded that the fund increases through dedications
for newly created single family lots or commercial lots. There are
sites in the city that can be developed in the future, but the
commission does not want to project too rosy of a picture.
Councilmember Vitelli asked that, when the capital plan is updated
again, staff give Council a projection of what the replenishment rate
will be for the fund.
Councilmember Duggan stated that the commission is estimating
bringing in an additional $290,000 and that the fund balance will be
$105,000 at the end of 2005. They were probably anticipating
income from the Bluffs and the Burrow Farm property.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he watched the Parks and
Recreation Commission meeting with interest when they were
reviewing the skate board park. It seems skate boarders can get a
skate board park they want about $25,000, but the city could be
leading down a path where it spends $25,000 this year and there is an
expectation there will be additional expenses. He does not feel
anyone on Council intended that. He stated that everyone should
know that there is $25,000 for a skateboard park this year and no
funding for next year.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked whether Council anticipated
$35,000 because this is a start-up park. If it is very popular, and
many people are using it, the commission would like to be able to
consider adding pieces to it in the future.
Councilmember Duggan stated that the commission discussion was
that if there are no major problems with use and behaviors, there
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would be consideration to looking at more advanced equipment. He
also stated that he understands there is a proposal for a 90,000 square
foot park in Fort Snelling Park and that he would anticipate the
young people in Mendota Heights would be inclined to use that park.
Mr. Kullander responded that there will be a fee for using that park,
probably $12 to $15 per session. The Mendota Heights facility will
be a Tier 1 park with no attendant in place so those costs are not
involved. Our park will be for beginners. As they advance, they will
be looking for other, bigger parks.
Responding to a comment from Councilmember Schneeman, Mr.
Kullander stated that the CIP includes replacing the wooden play
structures at Wentworth Park this year.
With respect to the needs study, Councihnember Vitelli stated that
there is a hint in the memo that the engineering fee portion of the
park budget may be exceeded, and Council should not let that go
unnoticed. He asked whether the study update can be put off until
next year if the budget is short of funds this year.
Mr. Kullander responded that the budget for engineering fees is
$9,000 and that amount would not be saved by putting off the study.
He stated that he will probably do to work over a 15 to 18 month
period, depending on available funds and his work schedule. If it
looks like the $9,000 would be overspent, he will come back to
Council.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that the Parks and Recreation
Commission usually spends the interest on the fund each year rather
than depleting the fund. She felt they should look at putting things
off to build the fund.
Mayor Huber stated that surveying the residents by doing mailings,
etc., is costly and he is not sure Council should be looking at that this
year. He felt that the commission should be looking at needs and
doing informal surveys of people they know. He did not know that
Council wants to spend money on a formal survey.
Councilmember Duggan suggested that seniors in the city might also
be willing to volunteer time working with a mailing list and
compiling responses.
Mayor Huber responded that if the city does a survey, that may be
building an expectation. He has no problem with the commission
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working on and discussing needs but would rather that they do a
survey on their own and of their own contacts.
Councilmember Schneeman agreed, stating that this is not the time
to make any commitments.
Councilmember Duggan asked if Council should send the
commission a recommendation not to do anything on the needs study
until 2004.
Mayor Huber agreed, except other than their own meeting time.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that Council should also think
through whether it wants to make a $25,000 investment in the skate
park and then significant future investments.
Councilmember Schneeman responded that Council needs to
evaluate the usage after a year of the Tier 1 park before considering
any expansion.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to acknowledge the revised
project schedule for the Parks Five Year (2001 -2005) Capital
Improvement Plan.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
It was the consensus to take no action of the needs study, just to refer
Council's comments to the commission with a strong emphasis on
waiting until 2004 to reconsider doing a needs study.
POLICE CHEF Mayor Huber recommended that Council conduct a second round of
police chief interviews at 6:00 p.m. on March 25 as a continuance of
the police chief recruitment process.
Councilmember Duggan moved to schedule police chief candidate
interviews for 6:00 p.m. on March 25.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
SANITARY SEWER BACKUP Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
Danielson regarding a sanitary sewer backup at 1900 Victoria Road.
Mayor Huber noted that there have been a few sewer back -ups
recently and asked if there is another way to deal with them rather
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than one on one requests. He asked whether there are any other
options to deal with back -ups in the future.
Administrator Lindberg responded that Council could authorize staff
to grant the requests up to a certain amount.
Councilmember Vitelli asked about additional insurance coverage.
He was not comfortable with dealing with back -ups on an individual
basis.
Public Works Director Danielson responded that the city looked at
the possibility of purchasing sanitary sewer back -up insurance
through the League of Minnesota Cities, but the cost is $10,000 a
year. For many years the amount the city paid out for back -up claims
never exceeded $10,000, so it was decided that it would be better to
pay the claims on an individual basis. There have been more claims
recently, and perhaps the insurance should be reconsidered.
Councilmember Schneeman felt that the insurance should be
considered. The sewer system is getting older and back -up claims
could become more frequent.
Councilmember Duggan stated that the memo indicates this is the
second time a back -up has occurred in this location. He asked if
there is a difference in the cause of the two occurrences.
Mr. Danielson responded that tree roots are a very common cause for
back -ups and there is very old clay pipe in this area of the city.
Roots are getting into the pipe. It is recommended that the pipes be
lined in order to prevent the roots from causing future back -ups.
Both of the back -ups were caused by tree roots.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to authorize issuance of a
purchase order to Visu -Sewer to remove the roots and install liners
in the pipe near 1900 Victoria Road for its low quote of $2,810.
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
COUNCL COMMENTS Mayor Huber stated that at the last meeting he had an exchange with
Councilmember Duggan that was too strong, and he apologized.
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Councilmember Duggan stated that he appreciates the apology and
looks forward to working with the Mayor and the rest of the Council
for the next three plus years.
PRESENTATION On behalf of Council, Mayor Huber presented a plaque of
appreciation to Mr. Joe Leuman for his ten years of service on the
Airport Relations Commission.
Mayor Huber stated that Mr. Leuman is a charter member of the
commission that has done a tremendous amount of great work over
the past ten years. The city is better off for Mr. Leuman's work and
the work of the commission in total.
HEARING — STREET Mayor Huber opened the meeting for the purpose of a public
VACATION hearing on an application from Mr. Tim Kolberg,790 Ridge Place,
for the vacation of unused city right -of -way (portion of Sununerset
Boulevard right -of -way) adjacent to his property. Council
acknowledged an associated memo from Public Works Director
Danielson.
Mr. Kolberg stated that there is a sixty foot easement that runs
between his house and his neighbor's house The right -of -way
actually goes all the way around his property. The right -of -way will
probably never be used because the land is very steep. He stated that
he is requesting the vacation in the hope that he could perhaps look
at splitting off a lot to sell in the future if he needs to. His wife has
lost her job and his job status does not look very good. They would
like to use the property as a land bank and sell a lot if they need to.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that it is not generally a good idea
for the city to vacate right -of -way.
Mr. Kolberg stated that his lot is 192 feet wide now and in order to
split it, he needs an additional eight feet.
Mayor Huber asked for questions and comments from the audience.
Mr. Gerry Jenniges, 800 Ridge Place, stated that he is not opposed to
the vacation. His question, based on the literature he received from
the city, is why the city needs to retain a ten foot easement. He did
not see any reason why it would be needed.
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Public Works Director Danielson responded that the easement would
be for drainage and utility purposes. The city typically retains those
types of easements around all lots.
Ms. Maureen Wilke, 781 Ridge Place, was concerned about where a
new house would be placed on the lot, and what size it would be.
When the streets were improved five years ago, she was very
concerned about keeping the character of the neighborhood the way
it is.
Mayor Huber asked if Ms Wilke if she means that she could
comment better on the proposal if she had a more precise description
of where a new house would go and what kind of house it might be.
Mrs. Wilke responded affirmatively.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she is not in favor of vacating
the right -of -way. In other neighborhoods, people do not want
subdivision of these larger lots.
Public Works Director Danielson stated that the lot is very large and
L- shaped. The Kolberg home is located to the west and he could
split off 100 feet on the east if the city vacates the right -of -way. The
right -of -way area is steep, and there is no need to ever build a street
on it. One of the things that has been discussed is if only half the
right -of -way is vacated, the new house would have to be set back 30
feet from the remaining right -of -way area. If Council decides to
approve the vacation, he felt the entire 60' should be vacated and
that the city should retain a drainage easement over the westerly 30
feet. A new house could be placed within 10 feet of the new lot line.
The creek that runs under Dodd Road ravels across the Kolberg
property, and the city does not have a drainage easement now. In
trade for the vacation, staff would like an easement for the creek. He
recommended vacating the entire right -of -way and retaining a
portion for easement area.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Vitelli, Public
Works Director Danielson stated that if the entire right -of -way is
vacated, half of it would go to each of the adjoining property owners
and they would have to pay taxes on it. The County Assessor told
him that since there would still only be one house on one lot, the taxe
increase would be very minimal.
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Councilmember Vitelli stated that the city has not heard from the
Minas (adjoining property owners) because they are out of town,
and he is concerned about getting their input.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to deny the application for
vacation because Council has approved vacations in the past and
people have said that was a mistake.
There being no second, Councilmember Krebsbach withdrew the
motion.
Councilmember Vitelli asked Public Works Director Danielson for a
potential footprint of a home on the new lot so that the neighbors
have an idea of how the lot may develop. He stated that he would be
more than willing to entertain the request if he could see the entire
picture, including where the lot split would be and where a new
house would be, etc. He would rather have had this come before
Council as a concept and is not in a position to approve the vacation
this evening.
Councilmember Duggan stated that it would be appropriate to ask for
more information drawn to scale from Mr. Kolberg and staff for the
next meeting so that the neighbors could see an actual plan.
Mayor Huber suggested that Council could give Mr. Kolberg an idea
tonight of what they are thinking.
Mr. Kolberg stated that he is not a developer and is not clear on what
to do. If he sells a lot, the person who buys it will have an architect
prepare a plan.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that usually when a lot split is
approved, Council is given a footprint of where a house will be so
that the neighbors get better information. When a vacation is
requested with the intent of doing something with the lot in the
future, Council looks for information on what it is that is to be done
in the future. He stated that he would like to know what the footprint
would be and where the lot lines would be. Council needs to see
some concept on where it would be.
Councilmember Duggan stated that it appears that there may be a
variance needed for a new home. He was concerned about granting
something that would give Mr. Kolberg monetary value. He would
like the neighbors to have information to help them anticipate where
a house would be built.
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Mr. Kolberg stated that he can't tell Council much, because he will
be selling the lot and the person who buys it will hire an architect.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that Council is really asking Mr.
Kolberg to come back with a detailed design for a house footprint on
land he doesn't even own yet. The question is what comes first, the
chicken or the egg. He also felt there should be more of a package
but did not know what to do next.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that Mr. Kolberg is asking for
vacation of a street so a buildable lot can be created and Council is
not obligated to do that. Council vacated right -of -way on Hiawatha
years ago and the neighbors have said that wasn't a good idea. She
will not support the vacation application.
Responding to a question from Mr. Kolberg, Councilmember Vitelli
stated that all Council needs is a footprint of where a house will be
and how far back it will be from the road. Something the neighbors
could reasonably anticipate. He further stated that if the right -of -way
is not vacated, Mr. Kolberg does not have a new lot. He needs to
first come to Council to see if Council is interested in vacating the
right -of -way and then come back to staff to see if he has a buildable
lot.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that Council needs to be careful
about handing over city property that could then create trouble in the
neighborhood.
Mr. Kolberg responded that if the vacation is granted and he divides
the lot, the city will have an increased tax base.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that his idea is that Mr. Kolberg work
with the engineering staff and bring something back in two weeks
that shows where the lot could be split and what footprint a house
would have.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he does not have a problem with
the vacation of the entire street. It will never be used and if a new
house is built there, the city would have additional tax revenue. He
agreed that seeing more of a package of information would be
beneficial. It would be ideal if Mr. Kolberg could meet with the
Mineas and come forth with a total vacation plan that would allow
better placement for a house that would be in a better location for the
neighbors.
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Councilmember Duggan stated that the site plan should show where
the lot line would go in relation to the existing houses, and where a
house could go within the setbacks, so that it would be acceptable
under the ordinance. Then the neighbors would know where a house
would be in relation to the lot.
Mr. Kolberg stated that he can do that and he cold put in a
reasonably sized rectangle, but he cannot tell Council what style a
house would be.
There being no questions or comments, Councihnember Duggan
moved that the hearing be continued to April 1.
Councihnember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
BLUFFS EAW REVIEW Council acknowledged a report from Barr Engineering regarding the
draft EAW for The Bluffs. Council also acknowledged an associated
memo from Administrator Lindberg. Mr. Colin Brownlow,
consultant with Barr Engineering, was present for the discussion.
Mr. Brownlow stated that Barr was retained to look at the
developer's draft of an EAW for the Bluffs development on Pilot
Knob Road. Barr looked at the EAW for adequacy, and has no
opinion on the suitability of the site or the suitability of the
development. Barr compared the EAW with EAWs Barr has done
and compared it with guidelines the EQB has developed, and looked
at what each of the 31 worksheet questions asked and what each of
the responses was. He will review the four or five key points of what
he thinks is missing from the EAW.
Mayor Huber asked City Attorney Schleck to describe what Council
is going to be doing tonight.
Attorney Schleck responded that tonight what Council is doing is
just talking about the Barr review of the materials that were
submitted by the developer. Council will not discuss the
environmental impacts associated with the project but rather about
determining whether the information is adequate for preparation of
the EAW. Minnesota Rules stated that the project proposal must be
submitted to the city with sufficient data for the city to prepare the
EAW. The rules also state that once the city decides that it has
prepared the EAW, it will publish the EAW for a 30 day comment
period. What is important is that at that point in the process, the
public has the ability to comment on the project and the EAW. The
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city has not yet produced the EAW, and what Council is talking
about is what is the best way to produce it.
Councilmember Duggan stated that since he is assuming that the
developer might challenge some of the Barr statements, might
Council want to consider those items challenged by the developer
first. Perhaps Council should just look at the ones that he has
challenged.
Attorney Schleck responded that a copy of Barr's comments has
been provided to the developer. The developer and the proposer
knows what Barr's thoughts are on the subject. Mr. John Uban is
present this evening to respond to some of the comments. He stated
that a long drawn out discussion may not be warranted tonight. Mr.
Brownlow's suggestion to discuss just the large topics is a good one.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that since Council engaged Barr to
do the review, she assumed this would go back to the developer and
he would respond to the report in writing.
Mayor Huber stated that what Council is being asked to do tonight is
authorize a letter to the developer that reviews the inadequacies Barr
has identified and then the developer should come back with
additional information to address what Barr has found. Tonight �.
Council should just authorize staff to officially deliver the
information to the developer and wait for a written response.
Attorney Schleck stated that is exactly what the intention was. It is
important for the analysis of Barr to be communicated back to the
developer. Council should also give the developer an opportunity to
speak tonight. The intent is for the developer to resubmit
information as requested.
Councilmember Schneeman asked Mr. Brownlow if there is anything
he found that Council should take particular note of.
Mr. Brownlow responded that there is not.
Attorney Schleck stated that at a minimum, Council should talk
about the issues as they relate to the historical review.
Mr. Brownlow responded that Barr's opinion at this point is that the
information provided in the EAW is not adequate. In order to
evaluate a project, there must be a very good description of that
project. The single most important question in the EAW is a
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description of the development. The developer needs to put together
a clear, concise description of the project. There are guidelines put
out by the EQB. The citizen petition raised four particular issues:
historic, wetlands, air quality impacts from traffic and airport and
traffic noise problems. Clearly, the reason the EAW was ordered
because of items in the petition and the city wants to pay particular
attention to those items. He reviewed Barr's responses to those
questions in the EAW. History - -Barr spoke to the state
preservations office with respect to history, and they do have
concerns. They would be willing to offer the developer some
guidelines on how to proceed. The EQB guidelines say that when
there are known historical, cultural and architectural resources on or
in proximity to the site, applicants must send a letter to the State
Historical Preservation Office. There is no evidence a letter was sent
to the SHPO. Wetlands - There was not enough detail in the EAW
to show what would happen within that area. Air Quality — It is
highly unlikely the development will generate enough traffic to
impact air quality but they should at least make their case. Existing
Air and Traffic Noise Problems — They have not addressed and need
to address the existing noise in the area. There is a letter from MAC
pointing out that the site is within 6000 feet from the end of the
runway and the property is adjacent to Highway 55. EQB guidelines
say if there is a development proposed close to an airport or
highway, noise modeling must be done. There is nothing in the
EAW addressing the noise issue and that is a significant issue. The
MAC is doing good modeling and MnDOT has done modeling of
traffic noise for Highway 55. The developer can get that information
and take a look at it and propose how they are going to alter
construction of the structures for noise mitigation.
Councilmember Duggan informed Mr. Brownlow that Mendota
Heights has perhaps the most stringent noise mitigation requirements
of any city in Minnesota close to the airport.
Mr. Brownlow responded that if there are special ordinance
requirements, that should be noted in the EAW.
Mr. John Uban stated that the developer will cooperate and prepare a
complete document. He initially thought the city would give the
developer some guides. Instead, the developer submitted a
document for the city to review. The biggest unknown is the
archeological element. The developer has retained the 106 Group
and they have already contacted the state. The developer intends to
do a very good job and would like to meet with city staff as soon as
possible to review Barr's comments.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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Councilmember Krebsbach asked if it is within Barr's contract that
they would have time to review the report with Mr. Uban.
Administrator Lindberg responded that there is a certain dollar limit
in the contract. It was anticipated that there would be one or more
meetings with Barr. Staff will come back to Council if it appears the
amount will be exceeded. The big unknown is the public comments.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to accept the staff
recommendation to draft a letter to project proposer Ron Clark
requesting the missing data and to authorize a meeting of the
developer, staff and Barr Engineering.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Councilmember Duggan stated that Barr's response to question 6c
and several other questions is that the city is responsible for
determining the validity of the response.
Attorney Schleck responded that some decisions are ultimately up to
the Responsible Government Unit (RGU), and Mr. Brownlow has
flagged those areas. If Council has concerns about those areas, those
concerns should be communicated to staff.
Mayor Huber stated that Council has a responsibility to communicate
their concerns as a Council to Mr. Uban and Mr. Clark, but he would
like to wait for a more complete package. He felt it is too difficult to
comment at this point, but that does not mean Council will not have
comments later in the process.
Attorney Schleck responded that staff could bring recommended
responses to the Barr questions to Council at its next meeting for
Council consideration.
ORDINANCE VIOLATION Council acknowledged a memo from Code Enforcement Officer
Berg regarding an ordinance violation related to parking of a camper
at 752 Mohican Lane, and a letter from the property owners, Mr. &
Mrs. Epstein, requesting an extension of time to move the camper.
Mr. Epstein stated that he uses the camper as a screen house for his
daughter so that she doesn't go to the park because there are lots of
kids using drugs at the park. He was flabbergasted that it is an
ordinance violation. He took the camper down today and it is a
question of whether he needs to pave his back yard in order to keep
it. �.
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Councilmember Schneeman responded that he must pave a spot on
which to park the camper.
Mr. Epstein stated that has a class five driveway now (from Pueblo
Lane) and if it is illegal he will pave it or get rid of it. He needs time
until he can get into the back yard. He does not know why he needs
pavement in the back yard to store something like his camper.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that apparently the city received
complaints about the camper from some of the Epsteins' neighbors.
Administrator Lindberg responded that the violation does not fall
under the requirements of the new city ordinance. Parking of the
trailer needs to meet the setbacks in the rear yard, etc. Mr. Epstein
also has the option of leaving the pop -up camper folded down in his
driveway. If he wants it in his back or side yard, it has to be on a
paved surface.
Mayor Huber stated that he has no problem with giving Mr. Epstein
additional time and asked if the end of May is long enough.
Mr. Epstein responded that he is not sure where his lot line is and
where his neighbor's (Bernard Friel) lot line is.
Public Works Director Danielson stated that Mr. Epstein's easterly
lot line abuts a public street, Pueblo Lane, not Mr. Friel's property
and Mr. Epstein can pave a pad for the camper at the proper setback.
Attorney Schleck stated that the city is not going to be able to certify
Mr. Epstein's property lines, and Mr. Epstein would have to get a
surveyor to do that. The city cannot make any representation as to
where the lot line is.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Krebsbach,
Administrator Lindberg stated that if the camper is in the down
position it would fit within the new ordinance language and would
be allowed to be parked in the driveway.
Councilmember Vitelli moved to grant the Epsteins until June 1 to
take care of the violation and work with staff to find the best and
lowest cost solution that meets the city's requirements.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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RECESS Mayor Huber called a recess at 9:09 p.m. The meeting was
reconvened at 9:14 p.m.
FREEWAY ROAD Council acknowledged a memo from Public Works Director
WATERMAIN/WATER Danielson and City Administrator Lindberg regarding the
SERVICE AGREEMENT Freeway Road watermain.
Mayor Huber stated that the issue of the Freeway Road watermain
and the breaks that have occurred in that area was a matter of
discussion two weeks ago. At that meeting, Council had a
discussion with Mr. Bernie Bullert, from St. Paul Regional Water
Services, about the breaks and the soil in that area. Mr. Bullert said
that between the breaks, the fact that the city is doing Town Center,
and the soil conditions, he felt it would be appropriate to replace the
watermain. That raised the issue of whether the city should enter
into a Memorandum of Understanding with St. Paul Water regarding
replacement and taking over of the city's water supply system. That
lead to many other questions from Council and staff. He stated that
he would like to continue discussion on this matter tonight to get the
sense of the Council on the issue. He asked Council for their
questions and comments.
Counci]member Vitelli complimented staff for collecting the data.
The more he reviews the proposal of having St. Paul Water take care
of the infrastructure and the city's water system, the better the picture
looks for the residents of the city. There is every indication that the
city's bond rating will not be changed. West St. Paul's bond rating
had no change when St. Paul took over its system, and they have had
good water service. If Mendota Heights enters into an agreement
with St. Paul, the city's residents and businesses will save money.
He reviewed the savings that are anticipated. He stated that staff did
an outstanding job and he would support the proposal and move
ahead so that the city gains the benefit of St. Paul Water replacing
the Freeway Road watermain under the terms of the Memorandum of
Understanding. That would avoid digging up a new street to repair
watermain breaks and meet the requests of the residents in the area,
and St. Paul would pay for it. The city does not have the money to
pay for replacing the watermains. He did not see a downside to this
and does not agree with the argument that the city would be giving
away the infrastructure. He would like to move ahead quickly.
Mayor Huber made a comment two weeks ago that was very good,
that some of the people against this do not like turning the asset over
to St. Paul. The city would be turning over the liability of having to
replace the mains in the near future.
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Councilmember Schneeman stated that the city does not have the
$250,000 needed to replace the Freeway Road watermain, and it will
break again. The city's infrastructure is getting old and it is very
expensive to replace. The agreement also provides for incremental
reductions in water rates. Her question is over the antenna rental,
and she asked whether the city can work out a deal with St. Paul in
which Mendota Heights would get the full rental revenue for the next
five years.
Administrator Lindberg responded that Mr. Bullert indicated that is
an item open for discussion. Mendota Heights would like to get the
full rental indefinitely. The city would get at least the same as the
other communities, which would be half of the annual rental.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked if Council must take action
tonight.
Mayor Huber responded that the next St. Paul Water board meeting
is April 9 or 10, and Council has another meeting before then. Mr.
Bullert may be able to be present for that meeting. If Council passes
something tonight, nothing will happen any sooner than April 9 with
St. Paul Water because its board is not meeting until then. It would
give staff direction on items of negotiation that are still open.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that it is a big decision and she did
not have sufficient time to review all of the information. She stated
that she would like to check with more cities in terms of bond ratings
and what percentage of the city's total assets the water system is and
what the asset was for West. St. Paul.
Administrator Lindberg stated that staff spoke with staff from West
St. Paul, Falcon Heights and Lauderdale, and none of their bond
ratings were impacted by the St. Paul Water agreement.
With respect to the West St. Paul asset value and the percentage of
the Mendota Heights total assets, Finance Director Schabacker stated
that the water system is not in the city's fmancial statements. With
the implementation of GASB 34, the system would come on the
books, but right now most cities do not have their water systems on
their books.
Mayor Huber stated that it is entirely likely that when the other cities
entered into the agreement, they did not have information on the
asset value. That is a question that perhaps cannot be answered.
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Councilmember Duggan stated that the answer to the question of
who would buy this — when one looks at the value, the infrastructure
could be used for mortgage bonds. Mendota Heights has owned the
system for many years, and if, for instance, the city needs money for
a budget crunch or Council wanted to build a civic center, the
infrastructure could be used for mortgage bonds.
Responding to a Council question about whether the water system is
a meaningful asset for a mortgage for a community center, Finance
Director Schabacker stated that GASB 34 has brought many new
standards. Cities would have to account for assets the same as
businesses do. She did not have an answer as to whether the asset
could be used in financing.
Councilmember Duggan stated that he feels that a public hearing
should be conducted. Council would not be considering the MOU at
this time if it were not that the Town Center development is being
done. He did not think that is the right way to go about making a
decision. The city has no control over what will happen to the cost
of water unless there is an iron clad contract saying that the system
would come back to the city at the same amount it is sold to St. Paul
for. That would include all maintenance that St. Paul would do.
Attorney Schleck responded that the discussions with Mr. Bullert
were exactly that, and it is in his comments to the agreement. The
one issue that needs to be discussed is the idea that if St. Paul adds
infrastructure and the system gets privatized, Mendota Heights
would not have to pay for the new infrastructure. Buy back of the
system would be on a depreciated value. If at any time in the future
St. Paul privatizes or sells the system, Mendota Heights could buy it
back for $1 because whatever St. Paul puts. into it from the date of
sale is depreciated down to the value it was, because if the city did
not enter into the agreement, St. Paul would never have had to pay
for improvements.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Duggan, Mayor
Huber stated that without the agreement, St. Paul would repair
watermain breaks but if a main needs to be replaced, Mendota
Heights would have to pay for it. Generally speaking, when roads
are torn up to do an improvement project, properties are assessed. If
an existing watermain is torn up, the basic legal concept of assessing
is that the value of the property being assessed goes up by the value
of the assessments. If there already was water service, there would
be a question of what the value increase would be. If it cost $50,000
to do a small street and the property owners challenged a watermain
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replacement assessment, the cost could be against the entire city. It
would not be clear cut that the city would prevail. Council must very
much keep that in mind. If Council does not enter into the
agreement it must have an in depth discussion on how watermain
replacement would be funded.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that at the last discussion she
asked how else watermain replacement could be funded. It is a big
decision for a city this size, and she did not have a chance to read the
information as much as she would like.
Councilmember Duggan stated that he has spoken to many residents,
and it is a concern to him. He would like to give people a chance to
comment and for Council to present the pros and cons to them. A
benefit is reduced rates, but the city will be losing half of the antenna
rental revenue. The Parks and Recreation Commission would not
like that at all. A negative is for the city to have to pay for
depreciated improvements — right now St. Paul repairs main breaks
and pays for it. Right now, residents pay a surcharge for water
system maintenance, and he does not know if that is sufficient for the
city to go forward. He would like the community to have a chance to
address the issue. Another issue is that the next time the tower needs
to be painted, the city will be responsible for paying for half of the
painting cost and all of the cost for removal and disposal of
hazardous material.
Public Works Director Danielson responded that last time the tower
was painted, the PCA stopped it after painting was about 1/3 done.
There is still 2/3 of the hazardous material to be removed and
disposed. St. Paul feels that Mendota Heights should be responsible
for removing and disposing of it.
Mayor Huber stated that if the city doesn't enter into this agreement,
it would have to pay for 100% of the cost of painting.
Councilmember Duggan stated that Council could probably address
those problems without the pressure of rushing into this because of
the Freeway Road problems. He agreed that staff has done an
excellent job answering Council's questions from the last meeting.
He would like the community to come in and tell Council what they
think should be done. This is a decision that affects every home in
Mendota Heights, not just those on Freeway Road.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that Council must remember that
the city gets its water from St. Paul. Mr. Norman and Mr. Wills,
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who started this issue about replacing the main, are very intelligent
people and they are tired of the breaks. She asked how many breaks
there have to be before St. Paul says they will not repair it any more
and that Mendota Heights has to replace the main.
Public Works Director Danielson responded that point has not been
reached yet. The 2.0 frequency factor has not been surpassed. St.
Paul is insisting the watermain be replaced before the streets are
done.
Mayor Huber suggested continuing the matter for two weeks. He felt
that the city should enter into the agreement and was concerned that
the city might not be able to assess neighborhoods for future
watermain replacement. He understands what Councilmember
Duggan is saying about this coming before Council because of Town
Center but watermain breaks will keep occurring and as the city does
a road project, the issue will come up again. Road projects are done
nearly every year. He had no problem with holding the matter over
for two weeks to see what the public thinks about it. Entering the
agreement would be cushioning those people who are looking at a
high frequency of breaks. There is a risk factor that is being spread
out on all of the community.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that is why she was looking for
alternative ways of funding. She always has the feeling there is no
free lunch. She would appreciate continuing the discussion and
holding a public hearing.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to conduct a public hearing on
April 1 to discuss the transfer of the Mendota Heights water system
lines and water tower to the City of St. Paul.
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he wants to confirm that if
Council makes a decision on April 1, the city can save the $250,000
to have the Freeway Road watermain replaced.
Councilmember Duggan asked that for the next discussion there be
clarification on the last sentence of page four of the agreement (15
feet of street). He also asked what control the city would have about
the standards for break frequency. He pointed out a typographical
error on page 6, item c, and asked if item 9 refers to an agreement
that is separate from the MOU. He stated that hopefully the antenna
rental revenue can be negotiated better than 50 %.
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Mayor Huber stated that when Council represents to the city how
much would be saved each year, Council also needs to say that it
may need to raise taxes by $30,000 to offset the loss of antenna
revenue.
Vote on Motion:
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
FREEWAY ROAD Council acknowledged a memo from Finance Director Schabacker
IMPROVEMENT BONDS recommending the sale of negotiated general obligation
improvement bonds to finance the Freeway Road area street
reconstruction project. Mr. Monte Eastvold, from Northland
Securities was present for the discussion.
Ms. Schabacker stated that the bonds are needed to finance the
improvement project. It is a very good climate for bond sales right
now. Interest is at a 45 year low. The bond issue size of $535,000
will fund the net need of about $496,000 plus issue expenses. She
reviewed the bond payment schedule and stated that revenue sources
to pay the issue will be special assessments and tax levies. The
average anticipated interest rate is 3.96 %.
Mr. Eastvold reviewed documents prepared by Briggs and Morgan,
including the resolution authorizing issuance of the bonds. Adoption
of that resolution is the first step. It would then be necessary to
approve the purchase of the bonds by Northland Securities.
Councilmember Duggan moved adoption of Resolution No. 03 -13,
"RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND SALE
OF $535,000 GENERAL OBLIGATION IMPROVEMENT BONDS
OF 2003, PLEDGING SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR THE
SECURITY THEREOF AND LEVYING A TAX FOR THE
PAYMENT THEREOF."
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Councilmember Schneeman moved to authorize a contract so that
Northland Securities is authorized to purchase the bonds at the stated
interest rates.
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
ST. THOMAS HOCKEY ARENA Council acknowledged a memo from Administrator Lindberg
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FINANCING regarding a request from St. Thomas Academy for city issuance of
pass- through Industrial Revenue Bonds to finance its hockey arena.
Council also acknowledged a preliminary term sheet prepared by
Wells Fargo Brokerage Services. Mr. Richard Miller was present on
behalf of Wells Fargo. Mr. Frank Lange was also present for the
discussion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Mr. Miller stated that the school is asking Council to call a public
hearing for industrial revenue bonds. It would be a privately placed
tax exempt municipal note that is not an obligation of the city at all.
St. Thomas is transferring half the land across Mendota Heights
Road from the school to a new non - profit called St. Thomas Ice
Arena, a 501C organization. There was a covenant on the last St.
Thomas bond sale that St. Thomas cannot incur any additional debt.
The new non - profit will be responsible for the debt. The source of
repayment will be the sale of ice to St. Thomas Academy, St.
Thomas University and youth hockey. The non - profit will be
composed of friends of St. Thomas Academy but they cannot be
board members. At the end of the financing, the land and the arena
will revert back to St. Thomas Academy. This is not a public
offering.
After discussion, Councilmember Krebsbach moved to conduct a
public hearing on April 15 on the issuance of industrial revenue
bonds for the St. Thomas ice arena.
Councilmember Duggan seconded the motion.
Mr. Chuck Friberg, from RSP Architects, briefly reviewed the design
for the hockey facility, along with the site plan. He stated that the
exterior colors and flashing will match the school, and showed a
colored rendering of the structure.
Mr. Lange stated that this will be the only facility in Minnesota that
has university, high school and youth hockey in it.
Mr. Friberg stated that this is the only such facility in the United
States. His firm is working on a second facility in another state that
will have high school and university hockey. Responding to a
question from Councilmember Schneeman, Mr. Friberg stated that
there will also be open skating in the facility.
Councilmember Vitelli congratulated Mr. Lange for finding an
excellent method of building the facility. He stated that he is very
supportive and congratulated St. Thomas for making it happen.
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March 18, 2003
XCEL ENERGY RESOLUTION Council acknowledged a memo from Administrator Lindberg
regarding a request from the City of Sunfish Lake that Council adopt
a resolution similar to a resolution adopted by Sunfish Lake
encouraging the legislature to call a moratorium on conversion of
single circuit I I5kv electric transmission lines into double circuit
transmission lines. Mayor Molly Park was present on behalf of
Sunfish Lake.
Mayor Park stated that both Sunfish Lake and Mendota Heights have
been through the grist mill on the topic of the Xcel upgrades. When
the new Sunfish Lake Council convened in January, they talked
about other ways to deal with this issue in a non - litigious manner. In
discussion with their city attorney, they determined there would be
no legal jeopardy for asking the state legislature to look at a
resolution on a moratorium on power lines. They met with Reps.
Tom Pugh and Joe Atkins, and they began writing a bill. They were
whole- heartedly in support and said it will be an uphill battle
because the legislative session will end April 16. Senator Metzen is
empathetic to the cause as well, and he sits on the committee in the
senate that deals with this and he is also president of the senate. The
state representatives told her Council that it would help the cause in
committee if the other cities involved came along with Sunfish Lake
in the resolution or pass their own resolution.
Mayor Huber stated that one thing the resolution does is bring us
back to the first discussion on this issue. Mendota Heights never felt
it should be a city by city matter but rather that it would be a regional
matter. The resolution supports the original Mendota Heights
position.
Councilmember Duggan stated that he is delighted to have this
before Council and hopes it gets favorable consideration. He was on
the Planning Commission when this was discussed. There are
existing houses in very close proximity to these lines. The incidence
of health problems on homes near power lines is much greater than
those not near lines. He stated that he supports the city's residents in
this effort.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that she has not been against the
power lines and is concerned about the length of the moratorium.
She would want something more specific
Mayor Park stated that the length of the moratorium was left blank
because her Council felt it was better for the legislature to determine
how long a moratorium would last.
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March 18, 2003
Mayor Huber stated that Council would be asking the legislature to
get involved. The legislature will craft a bill after negotiations in
committee. The resolution would be guidance from the city that this
is what it would like the legislature to pass. He stated that Council
should leave it in the hands of the legislature to graft language that
embodies what Council is trying to say.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Schneeman, Mayor
Park stated that Sunfish Lake sees Sunfish Lake and the southeast
area as a test case.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that in some of the literature form
Sunfish Lake, they want the moratorium so that the legislature would
have more time to study the California study. She would take that
out of the equation. She stated that she talked to the Institute of
Environmental Health Services in Washington, D.C. today and did
not get a real good feel about the California study at all. She stated
that she will get those comments to Mayor Park.
Mayor Park stated that she reviewed some of the white paper
information the Department of Health issued relative to the
California study. Their position should be one of prudent avoidance.
They said they should also continue to follow the environmental
studies.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he was one of the two
Councilmembers who did not support the denial of the Xcel permit.
His rationale was based on the facts. It would have been easy to
support in favor of denial of the request, but after doing considerable
research, he felt the property value and health issues were not
adequate to deny the permit. He is ready to support this resolution
but agrees that he would drop the reference to the California study
and would not make a big point of it. He provided the following
points contained in the "California EMT Risk Evaluation for
Policymakers and the Public — The Conclusions after Reviewing All
the Evidence:"
"To one degree or another, all three of the DHS scientists are
inclined to believe that EMFs can cause some degree of increased
risk of childhood leukemia, adult brain cancer, Lou Gehrig's
Disease, and miscarriage.
They strongly believe that EMFs do not increase the risk of birth
defects, or low birth weight.
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March 18, 2003
They strongly believe that EMFs are not universal carcinogens,
since there are a number of cancer types that are not associated
with ENE exposure.
To one degree or another they are inclined to believe that EMFs
do not cause an increased risk of breast cancer, heart disease,
Alzheimer's Disease, depression, or symptoms attributed by some
to a sensitivity to EMFs. However,
All three scientists had judgments that were "close to the dividing
line between believing and not believing" that EMFs cause some
degree of increased risk of suicide, or
For adult leukemia, two of the scientists are "close to the dividing
line between believing or not believing" and one was "prone to
believe" that EMFs cause some degree of increased risk."
Councilmember Vitelli stated that if he was in the Department of
Health and looked at that information, he would think it supports the
position they have taken for years.
Mayor Park stated that maybe there are some solutions that are not
yet know. She would not want to look back ten years from now and
see that there was one window opened and she did not go through it.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that the proposal is raising the power
line 25 feet and double circuiting the line. As the courts look at this,
their conclusion has to be that raising the line and double circuiting it
actually reduces the EMF risk. Mendota Heights does not produce
electricity and that means that all of the electricity comes through
someone else's yards. He stated that he is okay with the resolution
but he is not comfortable with an open ended time for a moratorium
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would not want to do
anything that would impede getting power.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that if the resolution is for Mendota
Heights, he would change the first whereas. In Mendota Heights
Xcel is building the line, so he would say "it is under construction."
He stated that he is not pro power lines. He is taking the position of
a Minnesota resident and someone who needs power. He is trying to
balance the needs of the metro area and the people of Minnesota with
the things Mendota Heights does not want to see in its community.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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Mayor Huber stated that his feeling is that these resolutions carry a
lot more weight if the body is united on it. He has the advantage of
not having been on Council when this line was under debate, so it is
easier for him to try another avenue. It is difficult to get into a
debate that goes on for a long time to reunite behind something. He
feels it is worth a shot, and that it is reasonable. He is confident the
city is not putting itself into a legal hole, but rather is just trying to
see if the legislature can do something. This may not help Mendota
Heights but if it helps someone else along the way, He would like to
see if the entire Council can get behind it.
Councilmember Schneeman asked why the Mayor would want Xcel
not to upgrade the power lines.
Mayor Huber responded that it is certainly a problem aesthetically.
Everyone has read the studies more than he has, but if he were a
home owner living under the power lines and was trying to sell his
house, he would perhaps have the perception that a prospective buyer
has read articles and has medical concerns.
Councilmember Duggan moved adoption of Resolution No. 03 -13,
"A RESOLUTION ENCOURAGING THE MINNESOTA STATE
LEGISLATURE TO ENACT A MORATORIUM ON THE
CONVERSION OF SINGLE CIRCUIT 115 KV ELECTRIC
TRANSMISSION LINES INTO DOUBLE CIRCUIT 115 KV
ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION LINES," amended in the first
paragraph to replace "is in the process of planning the construction"
to "is in the process of constructing."
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Councilmember Vitelli asked if :Council would recognize the
concerns he and Councilmember Krebsbach have and put a one year
limit on a moratorium.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that she would certainly do that.
COUNCIL COMMENTS Councilmember Duggan stated that at the last meeting he had
suggested that perhaps someday the fire station should be named for
the Weinzettel family. He has spoken with Chief Maczko, and the
department could do a little plaque on a fire truck based on years of
service by a family. Chief Maczko suggested it could be for any
volunteer in the city and there could be a plaque in City Hall, at a
ballfield, etc. He stated that he informed the chief that he will bring I
back to Council at some future time.
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Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she thinks it is a good idea to
capture the names of some of the founding families.
Councilmember Duggan commented that the St. Paul paper had an
article stating that Mendota Heights has the highest percentage of
residents claiming to be of Irish heritage in the state.
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before Council,
Councilmember Vitelli moved that the meeting be adjourned to 6:00
p.m. on March 25 for police chief interviews.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 10:44 p.m.
Kati teen M. Swanson
City Clerk