2004-03-01 City Council minutesPage No. 1
March 1, 2004
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Monday, March 1, 2004,
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, Minnesota was held at 7:30 o'clock p.m. at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights,
Minnesota.
CALL TO ORDER Mayor Huber called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. The following
members were present: Mayor Huber, Councilmembers Duggan,
Krebsbach and Vitelli. Councilmember Schneeman had notified
Council that she would be absent.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Council, the audience and staff recited the Pledge of Allegiance.
AGENDA ADOPTION Councilmember Duggan moved adoption of the revised agenda for
the meeting.
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
_ Ayes:4
Nays:0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Councilmember Vitelli moved approval of the amended minutes of
the regular meeting held on February 17, 2004.
Councilmember Duggan seconded the motion.
Ayes: 3
Nays: 0
Abstain: 1 Huber
CONSENT CALENDAR Councilmember Duggan moved approval of the consent calendar for
the meeting, along with authorization for execution of any necessary
documents contained therein.
a. Acknowledgment of the minutes of the February 24, 2004
Planning Commission meeting.
b. Acknowledgment of the Fire Department monthly report for
January.
c. Acknowledgment of the Building Activity Report for February.
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d. Authorization for issuance of a purchase order to Flexible Pipe
Tool Company for a sewer line inspection camera for the Utility (!
Department for its low bid of $6,591.29.
e. Authorization for the issuance of a one day temporary on -sale
liquor license to Beth Jacob Congregation for Saturday, May 2,
2004 from 6:30 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. in conjunction with its annual
fund raising event, subject to approval by the Commissioner of
Public Safety, along with waiver of the $50 temporary license
fee.
f. Authorization for the issuance of a one day temporary on -sale
liquor license to St. Thomas Academy for Saturday, April 17,
2004 from 6:00 p.m. to 11:30 p.m. in conjunction with its annual
fund raising auction, subject to approval by the Commissioner of
Public Safety, along with waiver of the $50 temporary license
fee.
g. Approval to reschedule the joint Council/Parks and Recreation
Commission workshop to April 13 from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. and
acknowledgment of the cancellation of the March 9 Parks and
Recreation Commission meeting.
h. Adoption of Resolution No. 04 -16 "A RESOLUTION
RENEWING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO LINDER'S
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i. Approval of the list of contractor licenses dated March 1, 2004.
j. Approval of the List of Claims dated March 1, 2004 and totaling
$77,821.71.
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
PUBLIC COMMENTS Mayor Huber informed Council that he received a letter from the
City of Eagan requesting adoption of a joint resolution to support for
full funding for construction projects on Highways 3, 13 and 149.
He stated that he will refer the letter to staff for a recommendation.
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Councilmember Vitelli asked that staff look carefully at whether to
support the resolution and, in particular, let Council know what the
implications would be, especially with respect to T.H. 149.
Councilmember Krebsbach agreed, stating that she has similar
concerns.
Councilmember Duggan stated that the letter also talked about a
meeting on the issue, and he would be glad to attend.
Mayor Huber also informed Council that he received an anonymous
letter from a resident concerned about a matter in the Avenues area
that Council has discussed, and the concerned resident is asking if
something has been done. The letter references a specific residence
on Fourth Avenue, and staff is taking a look at it. He stated that
Council has discussed how to deal with situations at residences that
have the potential to be very irritating to people who live around
them. He would like to see the discussion be a little more energized
and would like to see some action taken.
PRESENTATION Mayor Huber introduced Metropolitan Council District 13
Representative Rick Aguilar to the audience.
Mr. Aguilar stated that it is his pleasure to represent District 13, and
that when he was first appointed over a year ago, he was appointed
to District 16, which was northern Dakota County. Because of
redistricting, he now represents District 13. He serves on the
transportation committee and the community development
committee (formerly livable communities committee). There is a
great deal of competition for the livable communities grants, and he
congratulated Mendota Heights for receiving its grants. There were
34 applications for the 2003 grants, requesting $30 million in
funding, and only $7 million is available. In 1999, Mendota Heights
received a $150,000 grant and in 2002, an $873,000 grant. He stated
that it is his pleasure this evening to present the city with an award
certificate for a $300,000 Livable Communities Demonstration
Account grant to assist in building structured parking in Town
Center. He stated that the city can continue to apply for Livable
Communities grants. He further stated that he plans on being very
active and looks forward to working with Mendota Heights and the
other cities he represents.
Mayor Huber stated that Council is pleased to accept the grant and
very pleased and grateful for the continuing support of the
Metropolitan Council for the Town Center project. Council is very
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excited about the project, and has been working on it for several
years.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that the grants have been very
important to the project.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he has always been very upbeat
about this project and that Council should invite the Metropolitan
Council to look at the site in two to three years because it is an
exciting and unique mix of housing and commercial uses.
Councilmember Duggan commended Mr. Aguilar for his interest in
the community and his continued support.
POLICE ANNUAL REPORT Police Chief Aschenbrener presented and reviewed the Police
Department annual report for 2003.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked the Chief if he has a breakdown on
calls to Lilydale and Mendota and if the officers are more in jeopardy
there, particularly late at night, because of the drinking
establishments. She stated that she would like to see a breakdown
between the communities, including the breakdown of the calls in
comparison to Mendota Heights.
Chief Aschenbrener responded he does have statistics but did not
include them in the report because he does not have anything to
make comparisons with. The department is working with the
management of the Moose to reduce problems. A month ago he met
with the owners of the liquor establishments to make sure they take
care of the problems in house as much as possible.
Councilmember Duggan suggested that Officer Hurst bring a
presentation to cable television on child safety seats.
Chief Aschenbrener responded that he is sure Officer Hurst would be
happy to do that.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that Chief Aschenbrener's overview
was excellent. He stated that the department consists of 13 officers,
three sergeants and the Chief, which is not a lot of people,
particularly considering that they protect the city's residents 24 hours
a day, seven days a week plus all the other activities they do and all
of the training they take on new technologies and mandatory
training. He expressed his compliments to a team that gets a great
deal of work done with so few people.
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Chief Aschenbrener complimented the three sergeants for their
assistance in preparing the report.
Responding to a question about the detox unit, Chief Aschenbrener
stated that he spoke to Dakota County about detox several times and
the goal is to remain in Dakota County. The Chief's Association is
working with them in the hope to keep detox in Dakota County. The
police department transports people with a .20 or above to detox, and
the service would be sorely missed.
Responding to a question from Mayor Huber regarding prosecution
services, Chief Aschenbrener stated that the transition to the new
prosecutor's office is going extremely well.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she has received a comment
from Mr. Bill Owens, a Mendota Heights resident, commending the
police Department for the assistance the officers have given to his
ailing uncle, who lives in Lilydale, on the occasions when he has
needed their service.
MEETING RESCHEDULED Council acknowledged a memo from the City Clerk informing
Council that the April 6 meeting date conflicts with Passover
observance and recommending that the meeting be rescheduled to
_ April 7.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to reschedule the April 6 regular
meeting to Wednesday, April 7.
Councilmember Duggan seconded the motion.
Council suggested that the Parks and Recreation Commission
consider rescheduling its April 14 meeting because of Passover
observance.
GOAL SETTING SESSION Councilmember Duggan moved to reschedule the Council goal
setting workshop to 5:00 a.m. to Noon on Friday, March 19.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
JOINT AIRPORT ZONING Council acknowledged a memo from Administrator Danielson
BOARD regarding Joint Airport Zoning Board indemnification.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that at the Joint Zoning Board Meeting
last week it was brought to his attention that Mendota Heights and
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three other communities represented on the board have not filed an
indemnification agreement with the MAC. His first reaction was
that the city should file the agreement, but it is not as clear as that
after talking with the city attorney. If the city does not file an
agreement, there is a risk to the city and to him and Councilmember
Krebsbach as members of the board who could become personally
liable. He suggested that Council pass a motion that the city
indemnifies him and Councilmember Krebsbach as they undertake
activities as members of the Joint Zoning Board and also that
Council ask the city planner to look at the new airport zoning
ordinance to be certain there is no affect on Mendota Heights zoning.
Mayor Huber stated that it is not reasonable to expect the two
Councilmembers not to be indemnified, but at the same time Council
needs to be sure that if their actions do not unknowingly make the
city liable. He asked how Council can be sure issues that are coming
up do not give staff a concern.
Attorney Schleck suggested that Council adopt a resolution tonight
and that he and staff work on it and put together a formal written
resolution for next meeting that addresses the details.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that the hearing on the airport zoning
ordinance is next week. \ .
Attorney Schleck responded that his understanding is that the next
meeting of the Board is to address a draft ordinance, not necessarily
a final ordinance. He thought that if Council adopts a motion using
the language recommended in Administrator Danielson's memo to
indemnify the two Councilmembers personally for any actions taken
in their duties representing the city on the JAZB, they are personally
covered until a final resolution is adopted by the city.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that Eagan has abstained from
voting in the past.
Attorney Schleck stated that the issue originally came up two years
ago and some of the communities decided to abstain from voting
because they were concerned about the indemnification and what it
provides. If it turns out that the ordinance has no impact on Mendota
Heights, that may change Council's decision on the need for
indemnification. It is important that the city planner tell Council
exactly what impact the ordinance will have on the city.
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Councilmember Duggan moved to agree to indemnify
Councilmembers Krebsbach and Vitelli, personally, for any official
actions taken in their duties as representatives of the City to the Joint
Airport Zoning Board and to direct the City Planner to analyze the
Airport Zoning Ordinance to determine whether adopting it will
involve any changes to Mendota Heights' Comprehensive Plan or
Zoning Ordinance.
Mayor Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes:
Nays: 0
CASE NO. 04 -05, Council acknowledged a memo from Assistant Hollister regarding
KLINGELHUTZ an application from Klingelhutz Development for a conditional use
permit for a planned unit development, preliminary plat, wetlands
permit and variance for individually owned town office buildings.
Council also acknowledged associated staff reports and information
provided by the applicant. Mr. Tom Dunsmore and Mr. Terry
Schneider were present on behalf of the applicant.
Assistant Hollister informed Council that the Planning Commission
recommended approval subject to numerous conditions
recommended by the city planner plus two conditions related to
parking. He reviewed the developer's agreement outline for Council,
listing the issues to be addressed in the agreement. He discussed the
need for vacating a portion of Waters Drive and the need for the
applicant to acquire the state excess right -of -way for Phase 2 of the
development. At this time, the developer is only applying for Phase
1, which is under five acres. If the applicant is successful in getting
the Waters Drive right -of -way turned back and vacated, that puts the
area over five acres. The applicant does not know exactly how long
that will take and is requesting approval of Phase 1 at this time and
pursuing Phase 2 after that. The Planning Commission asked him
what guarantee there is that he will pursue the acquisition of the
right -of -way and complete Phase 2. The applicant responded that
Phase 1 is being designed in anticipation of Phase 2.
The Planning Commission wanted a clause that says that the
developer shall make best efforts com complete Phase 2. The second
issue was parking. The city planner had recommended 172 spaces
and Klingelhutz said that was more than he needed. The
commission recommended approving the plan with 172 spaces and a
proof of parking requirement can be written into the developer's
agreement. There was also discussion over handicapped parking
provisions and the prohibition of parking on streets less than 24 feet
wide. The applicant has not submitted a signage plan yet but
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informed the commission that his concept on signage is that on
completion of phase one he anticipates having a sign somewhere in C
the southeast corner of phase one and on completion of the second
phase he would move the sign to a better location. Fire Chief
Maczko has reviewed the proposal and submitted a memo regarding
his concerns.
With respect the issue of the developer guaranteeing completion of
the second phase, Attorney Schleck stated that it is important for
Council to understand that the city cannot necessarily force a
developer to develop his property. It is also important to understand
with respect to the issue of the purchase of the property from Mn
DOT, that MnDOT will typically send out an appraiser to determine
the price and that is how the value of the property is determined.
Councilmember Duggan stated that, with respect to the requirement
for 5 acres for a PUD, it is unknown at this time whether the
developer will be able to acquire the MnDOT land, and Council
would have to grant a variance in order to approve something less
than 5 acres. The applicant is coming in with a development and
telling Council he will go ahead — what can the city do to be sure
there will be a development greater than phase one.
Attorney Schleck responded that the methodology of control the city .
has is to attach an approval to the property that dictates that if any
development occurs in the future on that land, it must follow the
criteria in the developer's agreement. That agreement will be
recorded against the property, so if any development occurs in the
phase two area, it must develop as required by the PUD plan.
Councilmember Duggan asked if Council has authorization to grant
a variance for property that is smaller than five acres for a PUD.
Attorney Schleck responded that if one looks at the development as a
whole, it is greater than five acres. If the owner comes in and applies
for a PUD for the development as a whole, he would be complying
with the code. If an applicant came in and applied for a PUD for an
area smaller than that, he would have to show the hardship for a
variance.
Councilmember Duggan stated that he thinks the overall plan is
great. The other concerns he has are the concerns expressed by the
fire chief about the width of the streets, etc.
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Councilmember Krebsbach asked whether the total parcel is 5.7
acres, including the Waters Drive cul -de -sac.
Assistant Hollister responded that it is. The applicant feels the
MnDOT piece is ready to go but is hesitant to say the Waters Drive
portion is imminent. Apparently, an improved street must first be
transferred by MnDOT to the city and then from the city to the
developer. The applicant would like to have approval for the PUD
before he fords out if the transfer will occur. Council can make
approval contingent on the applicant securing adequate control over
both the excess right -of -way and Waters Drive.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would rather see that
happen before the developer begins the project.
Mayor Huber stated that there has been some discussion tonight
about how the Waters Drive piece could ultimately develop. He
asked if MnDOT is willing to sell that land, does the city get first
chance at it.
Attorney Schleck responded that MnDOT has to offer the property to
the city first.
Mayor Huber stated that if the city has the first chance at the
property, the city would not be obligated to sell it to Klingelhutz or
anyone unless they agreed to develop it in a manner the city wanted.
He felt the city can control how the development of phase two looks
because the city does not have to sell the property to anyone unless
they agree with how the city wants it to develop. If Council has a
level of confidence that the developer wants to continue the
development into phase two consistent with the plan, the city could
by the right -of -way from MnDOT. There is the issue that if MnDOT
does not want to sell it or the city does not get it, the developer
cannot go forward with phase one either, at least as it has been
presented.
Attorney Schleck responded that MnDOT has already offered to sell
the right -of -way to the city once.
Mayor Huber stated that if Council had a level of confidence that the
developer wants to continue the development into phase two
consistent with the plan, the city could buy the property from
MnDOT. There is an issue such that if MnDOT decides not to sell it
or the city does not get it, the developer cannot go forward with
phase one either, at least as presented.
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Councilmember Krebsbach stated that there are two parcels that are
not under the developer's control, and she would like them to have
control of those parcels before granting approval.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that the development as proposed
consists of 4.7 acres, but the triangular piece is not yet owned by the
applicant. He would support the development as proposed because
one of the things Council has authority for is to determine whether or
not a request for variance makes sense. Council grants variances for
a variety of reasons. When he looks at the 4.7 acres as compared to
five acres, as required by ordinance for a PUD, the property is within
97% of what is required. He does not see the rationale in putting
roadblocks on a development that is excellent and would be good for
the city. He would support approval of the PUD contingent on
acquisition of the triangular parcel by the applicant. He would also
like the Chief Maczko's comments added to the resolution.
Councilmember Duggan asked staff how the fire chief's comments
would work within the plan as proposed, in relation to street widths,
etc.
Mayor Huber responded that doubts he will be in a position tonight
to say yes or no to the proposal. There is a great deal of information
to go through.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked Mr. Schneider why he cannot do
the whole project.
Mr. Schneider responded that the one acre triangular parcel that is
owned by the state went through the transfer process about a year
ago. MnDOT determined it to be excess property and placed a value
on it. That needs to be redone for the transfer to Klingelhutz and
would be relatively easy to accomplish at this time. The Waters
Drive right -of -way is more difficult. It is a frontage road that was
constructed as part of the T.H. 55 reconstruction. MnDOT has
determined it will be turned back to the city as a public street when
the T.H. 55 project is closed out, and that is beyond the control of the
developer. MnDOT has determined that outside of the turnback area
they have plenty of room for a turn lane. They do not need the right -
of -way. He stated that the developer has sacrificed significant value
in phase one so that they could configure phase two. He stated that
Klingelhutz has an option on the property and has closing
timeframes to get the property developed. If Council says they
cannot develop the property until the developer has Waters Drive, he
- believes the developer will have to move on and look for another
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site. He will do everything possible to get phase two developed as
quickly as possible, and has no doubt he will be able to get the
triangular excess right -of -way from MnDOT. A couple of weeks
delay in making a decision would possibly be all right.
Councilmember Vitelli asked if Mr. Schneider has any problem with
the conditions the Planning Commission set forth.
Mr. Schneider responded that he hopes that the no parking in the
traffic lanes has been corrected because the new street plan has a 24
foot width. The rest of the conditions are fine. He stated that he
would just as soon put in the trees along the frontage now, even
though they will have to be moved in the future.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would like to delay a
decision for two weeks and have a letter showing the intent to
transfer the triangular parcel to the developer.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he does not support the approach
of putting the decision off for two weeks. He does not see the
difference in waiting for two weeks and simply putting a condition in
the approval tonight. If the developer does not meet the conditions,
he has no approval. It would be unproductive to leave the developer
in limbo and spend time at another meeting. He recommended
accepting the Planning Commission's 20 conditions, dropping the
condition on the trees, and make approval conditioned upon the
acquisition of the triangular parcel, make sure that the developer
recognize the needs of the fire department to protect the property,
and put those conditions in the approval tonight.
Councilmember Krebsbach recommended that the developer come
before Council in two weeks when he has had a chance to review the
fire chief's recommendations and the Planning Commission's
recommendations and gives Council evidence of the MnDOT
transfer letter.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he sees no difference between
approving the conditions he set forth tonight and bringing the
application back in two weeks.
Mayor Huber stated that he does not think Council has talked much
about bringing utilities to the property. Staff needs time to see how
that will work.
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Administrator Danielson stated that the applicant will need to apprise
the feasibility for public improvements to the site.
Mr. Schneider stated that his engineer has met with city staff and he
understands that sewer is at the far corner of the site and water is
quite a distance away. It would be his desire to install the utilities
and turn them over the city and not have the city do the feasibility
study. He will submit full plans and specifications for city approval.
Administrator Danielson stated that is not typical of the city's past
practices and he would want to look at the request very carefully.
Mayor Huber responded that he would not support the request. His
concern is there are a number of things that need to be resolved. If
Council gave approval to the PUD tonight with all of the things that
need to be resolved, including utilities, he does not think the
developer would have as much approval as he thinks he has. There
is an awfully long list of things that need to be done, and he feels the
development proposal needs more staff review.
Mr. Schneider stated that he concurs. In his discussions with staff,
he had been talking about how to serve the site with the intent that
they would be installed privately. He has no objection to the city ('
doing the feasibility, etc., and will file a petition for improvements. \ .
He would prefer that the matter be tabled for two weeks to allow him
to file the petition and talk with city staff.
Mayor Huber stated that he would like to see where Mr. Schneider
plans to put the interim signage and would also like the concerns
about trash addressed. He felt that the parking proposal is acceptable
and would find nine stalls as proof of parking acceptable. He asked
Mr. Schneider if he is familiar with the park contribution
requirement.
Mr. Schneider stated that if a park contribution is standard
procedure, the developer is prepared to pay it.
Mayor Huber responded that staff will make a determination on the
amount of the park contribution and will inform Mr. Schneider on
the amount and how it was arrived at.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would like verification on
the developer's ability to purchase the triangular parcel from
MnDOT and verification from MnDOT that it does not need the
right -of -way for right turns.
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Councilmember Duggan asked how the recommendations of the fire
1 chief work in relation to the plan and stated that he would like to see
a drawing implementing the recommendations.
Mayor Huber stated that he is comfortable with going forward
without the Waters Drive right -of -way is acquired as long the
developer has the triangular parcel.
Mr. Schneider asked for feedback on the monument sign. He would
like to do a substantial sign and would like to integrate it with phase
two. The most logical location for the monument sign after phase
two is built is at the corner of T.H. 55. He did not know if he can get
approval to put there now, because MnDOT still owns the property.
The alternate is to put it at the entrance to the site. He would like to
request the ability to put a sign at T.H. 55 subject to MnDOT
approval and an alternate to locate it temporarily at the entrance
drive to the development.
Administrator Danielson responded that since this is a PUD, the city
has some flexibility.
Councilmember Duggan supported the concept of a temporary sign
now and perhaps a triangular sign at T.H. 55 in the future so that
traffic on T.H. 55 and T.H. 13 can both see it.
Mr. Schneider responded that if Council approves a temporary sign,
it would give him more time to consider a design for the sign at T.H.
55. With respect to the fire chief s recommendations, he stated that
there is one minor area that needs about a one foot adjustment to
make the radiuses work for the fire department.
Responding to a question from Mayor Huber, Attorney Schleck
stated that the developers agreement draft prepared by Assistant
Hollister is an excellent start and a copy of that draft should be given
to the developer.
RECESS Mayor Huber called a recess at 9:35. The meeting reconvened at
9:40 pm.
1845 HUNTER LANE Council acknowledged a memo from Administrator Danielson
regarding the critical area permit for 1845 Hunter Lane (Dennis
Galligan). Council also acknowledged letters from Attorney
Virginia Bell on behalf of Paul and Vicki Katz, 1855 Hunter Lane,
and a letter from City Attorney Schleck in response to the Bell letter,
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a letter from Attorney Eric Galatz on behalf of Dennis and Lori
Galligan, and a letter from Pauline Chaput, 1835 Hunter Lane.
City Attorney Schleck stated that the matter before Council is the
discussion about the home at 1845 Hunter Lane and the project that
is taking place on that site. He then reviewed the background,
stating that the Galligan family, through their architect, made
application to the city on May 12, 2003 for a project at their home
which required the issuance of a critical area permit. After testimony
at the May 20, 2003 meeting, Council approved the critical area
permit. On February 18, 2004, the attorneys for Mr. & Mrs. Katz,
the next door neighbors, submitted a letter saying that by way of the
meeting minutes, the applicants had potentially misrepresented some
of the facts given at the meeting. He read an excerpt from the
minutes which stated that Mr. Galligan stated that his neighbors were
well aware of his plan and support it. Through the letter from the
Katz's attorney, that was proposed that statement was wrong and
potentially misrepresented some of the feelings of the Katz family
with respect to the project. At that time, staff instituted an
investigation to determine what had taken place, and staff felt it was
appropriate to place a red tag on the project pending the outcome of
the investigation. The minutes indicated that Mr. Galligan had stated
that his neighbors knew of the project and approved it. As part of
the staff review, he and Administrator Danielson instituted in
investigation that included review of various things and as the result
there are some potential changes to the meeting minutes.
Administrator Danielson stated that during his investigation, he
remembered that at the May 20 meeting, when the Galligans
indicated their neighbors knew about the project, Administrator
Danielson said that he knew the Katz's knew about the project
because they had called him and asked about it, and he thinks that
should be added to the May 20, 2003 minutes
Attorney Schleck reviewed a proposed amendment to the May 20,
2003 minutes to strike "and support it" and add "Acting City
Administrator Danielson knew for sure that the Katz's knew about it
because they called him and asked about it." He recommended that
the changes be made to the minutes.
"Roberts Rules of Order," Section 32, specifically provides for the
amendment to minutes of meetings of bodies that are controlled by
"Roberts Rules of Order." Under "Roberts Rules" Council can
amend minutes and in fact should amend the minutes if evidence
comes forth that the minutes are wrong. Generally speaking, there
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were some questions that had arisen with respect to the process taken
1 at the meeting. There were questions asked at the meeting and
responses by Mr. Galligan and his contractor. The motion to
approve the project was appropriately made and seconded and voted
on unanimously by Council. The only reason staff went forward
with investigating the matter was that there was an allegation there
were some misrepresentations or wrongful conduct by the applicant
at the hearing. Through the investigation he has found that was
absolutely not true. The applicant made no statement with regard to
the acceptance or rejection of his neighbors to the project. He stated
that the staff investigation has shown that there was no
misrepresentation, and Council had relied on the information it
received at the meeting and that was presented staff reports, and staff
is only looking to change the minutes and the statement that was
made and who made it. At this point, it would be inappropriate to
reopen the issue given the facts that staff has found as part of the
investigation. He recommended that Council move forward with the
proposed amendment to the minutes and remove the red tag to the
project and move forward as if this had not taken place based on the
change to the minutes.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she is not in support of
changing the minutes. She did not think Council should start that
practice. She made the motion on May 20, 2003 and would not have
made the motion if in the discussion there had not been some
assurance that the Katz's had been informed. Even if she had not
specifically referred to the Katz's by name, she was well aware of the
issues in the past when she was on the Planning Commission and the
concern about the site lines and would not have made the motion
without having had some indication from Mr. Galligan or
Administrator Danielson that the Katz's had been informed.
Attorney Schleck asked if Councilmember Krebsbach does not
support changing the minutes to say what Administrator Danielson
actually said at the meeting.
Councilmember Krebsbach responded that she would not want to get
into the practice of changing minutes months later.
Attorney Schleck stated that so everyone is clear, there was a
discussion that the Katz's were informed. Administrator Danielson's
testimony is that he knew they were informed because they called
and talked to him about it.
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Mayor Huber stated that what he hears Councilmember Krebsbach
saying is that the minutes reflect it one way but that she is confident
she would not have made the motion without there having been some
indication that the neighbors were aware of the project.
Councilmember Duggan stated that other than Administrator
Danielson coming up with a new statement at this time, there must
be some other support for that other than jogging a memory. He
stated that he is comfortable with the statement in the minutes but is
not challenging the Administrator. If there is some other support for
it, he would go along with the change. He stated that when minutes
are taken they are not intended to be taken verbatim. Some areas are
shortened up that are appropriate and leaves out comments that are
not germane to the discussion. Referring to the excerpt from the
minutes, he stated that Mr. Galligan did not state how they were
made aware or who made them aware of the plan or in what way the
information in support of the plan was presented back. When he
( Councilmember Duggan) asked the question at the May 20 meeting
about whether the neighbors were aware of the plan, and got the
response, he took it at face value and was very comfortable with it,
as was Councilmember Krebsbach. He stated that Council had at
least three issues with the critical area last year, including reconciling
the critical area ordinance with the comprehensive plan, and Council
is very cognizant of the critical area issues. He is comfortable with
the minutes as written but could also supporting the amendment if
the city attorney recommends it.
Attorney Scheck read an excerpt from "Roberts Rules" regarding
correcting minutes, and pointed out that a two- thirds vote is required
for the amendment.
Responding to a question from Mayor Huber, Attorney Schleck
stated that he and Administrator Danielson checked various sources
in their investigation but that Mr. Galligan had made a videotape of
the May 20, 2003 from cable television and supplied the city with a
copy of the section that dealt with this approval. It is not an official
copy of the city minutes, because the city does not keep video copies
of the meetings, but it can be used to refresh people's memories.
After viewing it with Administrator Danielson, they feel confident
that the amendment they are proposing is what actually happened at
the meeting.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she does not support going
back nine months to amend the minutes and pointed out that Council
does not use video tapes as the official record of meetings. C
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Councilmember Vitelli stated that as he sees the proposed change to
the minutes, the words being stricken are "and supported" and the
city attorney is proposing that Mr. Galligan's statement is that his
neighbors are well aware of the plan. The minutes reflect incorrectly
that they supported it. They do not reflect that then Acting
Administrator Danielson made the statement that he knew for sure
the Katz's were aware of it because he had talked to Mr. Katz. He
supported the change because Council would be making the minutes
more accurate.
Mayor Huber asked Attorney Schleck if he is saying there were
actually two statements made, both the statement that Mr. Galligan
made that the neighbors knew about the plan and that Acting
Administrator Danielson indicated he knew for sure Katz's knew
about it because they had called him. There were actually two
statements that neighbors in general knew about the plan.
Attorney Schleck stated that he is proposing the change to the
minutes based on Administrator Danielson's testimony tonight, not
on the basis of the recording of the meeting. It is being proposed
based on Administrator Danielson's refreshed recollection of the
meeting.
Councilmember Duggan stated that he is comfortable with
supporting the proposed changes and asked what the ramifications
will be.
Councilmember Duggan moved to amend the minutes of the May
20, 2003 meeting, page 4, paragraph 5 to strike "and support it," and
add "Acting City Administrator Danielson knew for sure that the
Katz's knew about it because they called him and asked about it."
Ayes: 3 Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Nays: 1 Krebsbach
Attorney Schleck stated that if Council chooses to address this any
further, he believes that there is no further action required by the
Council at this time. There was an approval given on May 20, 2003
and the only reason the issue was reopened was because there was
that there was an allegation of a misrepresentation by the applicant.
After investigating, staff found that there was no misrepresentation
or wrongdoing by the applicant. To reopen the issue at this time is
troublesome for the city because the city has already granted
approval. On May 20, 2003, there was enough evidence presented to
Council that it was able to make a unanimous approval. To reopen
the project at this time is troublesome because there has been some
reliance by several parties on the decision Council that was made on
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May 20 and there has been no factual basis presented by anyone for a
reason to reopen the project other than allegations of
misrepresentation and wrongdoing. He believes that if significant
review of the issue takes place, the city as a whole may have some
other issues with respect to reliance by future applicants to get a final
decision by the city. His position is that this should not be reopened
and staff should be directed to take whatever measures necessary
because of the action taken on the minutes.
Mayor Huber stated that during the past week or so there has been
some focus on the minutes, but he does not think that is the limit of
what staff has reviewed. He asked for a summary of some of what
has been looked at.
Attorney Scheck stated that staff looked at the apparent
inconsistency in the meeting minutes. There has also been an
ongoing investigation with respect to this project since its approval.
The first issue that arose was an allegation made in a letter from the
Katz's attorney about whether the Katz's had been notified that there
was going to be a meeting on May 20 to discuss the issue. Staff
research indicated they were notified at least three ways.
Administrator Danielson found a note in his planner fifteen days
before the meeting that he had a call from Mr. Katz to discuss the
project. Secondly, in some testimony he received from Mr. Galligan,
he indicated he had talked to Mr. Katz before the meeting and at
least discussed there would be a meeting and when it would take
place. Also, every Friday, the city sends out a Friday newsletter that
includes an agenda for Council meetings. That is not normally sent
out to residents unless they request and pay for them. The Katz's
have requested and received them. They would have received the
Friday News with the agenda for the May 20, 2003 meeting.
Administrator Danielson and Assistant Hollister recollect Mr. Katz
coming to City Hall around the time of the meeting and Mr.
Danielson provided a set of plans for Mr. Katz to review. There
have been several requests from the Katz's throughout 2003 for
additional information. He stated that he has a listing of those
requests and staff s attempts to address the Katz's concerns on this
issue. He stated that he could talk about the legal issues associated
with this but not necessarily at this time.
Councihnember Krebsbach stated that she has a question over what
the city definition of a remodel is. That is a larger issue for her
regarding this project. The point made was there would be no
exterior walls removed and what is a larger issue is that this came
through as a remodel and it is far more than a remodel. Had it not
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been for the one foundation wall that was not removed, it would
have needed a new application.
Attorney Schleck stated that he believes that is a false issue. The
application from Knutson stated this would be a major reconstruction
of the house. It said they would not be relocating the exterior walls
but it did talk about removing the existing roof, garage, windows, all
interior walls and all other walls found inadequate. The original
application stated that it was a major reconstruction project. To say
they somehow misrepresented the project would be unfair to them.
The applicant clearly states they were going to do major
reconstruction.
Mayor Huber asked if anything has come to mind, in the staff
review, where this structure as it has been built has been a violation
of city ordinances.
Attorney Schleck responded that based on review by the building
officials and Administrator Danielson, nothing has been found to be
in violation of the building code for Mendota Heights. There has
been a question raised as to the classification of this project. It was
classified as a minor development. The critical area ordinance
provides that in the case of a minor development and/or a change
involving a single family residence, the city administrator shall bring
the request to Council. There has been a question as to what minor
development means. In the case of the critical area ordinance, the
ordinance says a minor development and/or change involving a
single family dwelling. Since this is a single family dwelling, the
City Administrator was required by the ordinance to bring it directly
to the City Council. Substantial alteration means the moving of 100
cubic yards of soil or more. Anything else is not a substantial
alteration under the ordinance. No significant amount of soil was
moved during this project. There was also the issue of whether or
not this plan was to be brought to the Planning Commission. The
critical area ordinance requires the city administrator to bring it
directly to Council. There was also an issue about landscaping on
the site. The ordinance speaks to landscaping. As he understands it,
the landscaping was all done to the front of the house, and that is
outside the requirements of the critical area ordinance.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked for confirmation that the city
attorney knows for a fact that the foundation has not been changed.
Attorney Schleck responded that is the information he received from
the code enforcement officers and Administrator Danielson.
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Mr. Galligan stated that they built the second floor and up on the
original foundation. It is the same floor, walls, block, etc.
Councilmember Duggan stated that the major area of concern he has
about the views - the comprehensive plan talks about protecting
views that are in existence. He asked to what degree the existing
view has been changed with respect to the Katz's.
Attorney Schleck restated his warning with respect to reopening this
issue. If Council insists on reopening it, it is appropriate to state
what the ordinance reads. It does not say "to maintain views." It
says that the development should be consistent with reasonable
preservation of views. It is important to note that the ordinance
provides for preservation of views of the river corridor, which is
specifically defined in Mendota Heights. The city only has the right
to regulate what is in this city. It does not have the right to regulate
the other side of the river. He showed a map showing the river
corridor as it is defined by the DNR. The views to be maintained are
not all views, it is only the reasonable preservation of views. The
statute and ordinance are written to be flexible and it is up to the city
to determine what a reasonable preservation of view is.
Mayor Huber stated that staff is recommending that the red tag be
lifted and that no further action be taken by Council.
Councilmember Duggan stated that the Katz's and Galligans and
their representatives are present. He asked if it would be appropriate
to talk to them.
Mayor Huber stated that, although Mr. Galligan made a brief
statement, Council has stuck with having the city attorney give the
review. He thinks Attorney Schleck and staff have given a good
review of the actions they have taken this week, why they have taken
them, and a basis for why they feel the red tag should be lifted at this
point.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked on what basis the red tag would be
kept on.
Attorney Schleck responded that he sees no basis for keeping the red
tag on. The red tag was issued on the basis of allegations of
misrepresentation that staff has found not to be true.
Mayor Huber stated that the evidence indicates that the
misrepresentation that was the result of the minutes that staff had
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available to them two weeks and have now been amended clear the
point on misrepresentations. Attorney Schleck has reviewed the
documentation and all that has gone on.
Responding to a Council question, Administrator Danielson stated
that the building inspectors have reviewed the project, found it to be
in compliance with codes, and issued the permit. The building
height complies with the ordinances.
Mr. Paul Katz stated that Administrator Danielson has stated that he
talked to him and his wife before the meeting and that is not the case.
Mayor Huber responded that there are a couple of things to think
about. One is whether Council wishes to reopen the matter.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that one of her questions was what
is the definition of remodel, and this structure meets the defmition of
remodel. The second question was whether the height meets the
ordinance requirements for the critical area, particularly for
residential structures. In her mind, those are the two issues.
Attorney Schleck responded that Administrator Danielson has stated
that it meets the city's building code and ordinances
Mayor Huber stated that if there were an identical project like this
that came before Council in two weeks they would not be asking for
any variances whatsoever.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that this is before Council tonight
because there was an accusation of misrepresentations and staff
researched that and it has been proven that the applicant did not
misrepresent, and he does not believe the issue should be reopened.
Councilmember Vitelli moved to remove the red tag from the
property at 1845 Hunter Lane.
Councilmember Duggan seconded the motion.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that her support of the motion
would be that the information from staff is that it meets the
definition of a remodel and also it fits within the ordinances.
Councilmember Duggan stated that the city sent a letter to both the
Galligan family and the Katz family informing them about this
evening's meeting and that they would be provided an opportunity
for input, and he feels they should have the opportunity to speak to
VOTE ON MOTION:
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
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Council. Perhaps that could be done after Council votes on the
motion.
Mayor Huber stated that this has been an extremely difficult matter
for everyone, not the least of which is the Katz family, and he does
not want to seem like he is brushing them aside. He thinks Council
has the obligation act in a manner appropriate for the city and take
into account the work staff has done in thoroughly reviewing the
matter. He feels Council has come to the right decision. Council has
done what they needed to do and it would be incorrect to proceed
any further in the matter. Council has done what they feel they need
to do and that was the extent of its role tonight. To go any further
would possibly not be in the best interest of the city. He stated that
he would like to end the discussion on it.
COUNCIL, COMMENTS Councilmember Vitelli reminded Council that with regard to airport
noise, the city will benefit by the opening of the north/south runway
and two important meetings are going to be held on March 11 at
MAC headquarters. The Noise Oversight Committee will meet at
1:30 to address the new Part 150, which is a document that defines a
set of noise contours around the airport to the year 2007. The
meeting will review the results of the study that has been done and
will also address the sound abatement measures. There are no homes
in Mendota Heights that would be affected. At 4:30 there is a Joint
Airport Zoning Board meeting with respect to a change in airport
zoning ordinances.
Councilmember Duggan informed Council that he will miss the next
Council meeting.
Councilmember Krebsbach congratulated Lilydale's Mayor and City
Council on their new City Hall.
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before Council,
Councilmember Vitelli moved that the meeting be adjourned.
Ayes: 4 Councilmember Duggan seconded the motion.
Nays: 0
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 10:38 p.m.
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athleen M. Swanson, City Clerk
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