2004-03-16 City Council minutesPage No. 1
March 16, 2004
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
� DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, March 16, 2004
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, Minnesota was held at 7:30 o'clock p.m. at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights,
Minnesota.
CALL TO ORDER Mayor Huber called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. The following
members were present: Mayor Huber, Councilmembers Krebsbach,
Schneeman and Vitelli. Councilmember Duggan had notified
Council that he would be absent.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Council, the audience and staff recited the Pledge of Allegiance.
AGENDA ADOPTION Councilmember Vitelli moved adoption of the revised agenda for the
meeting.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
( ) Nays:0
CONSENT CALENDAR Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of the consent calendar
for the meeting, revised to move items 5b, nuisance complaint on
Fourth Avenue, 5f, frontage road stop sign request, and 5m,
Visitation Convent School bonding, and 50, claims list, to the
regular agenda, along with authorization for execution of any
necessary documents contained therein.
a. Acknowledgment of the minutes of the NDC4 Executive
Committee meeting agenda for March 3, 2004.
b. Acknowledgment of the Treasurer's monthly report for February.
c. Acknowledgment of a memo from City Engineer McDermott
regarding a request from the City of Eagan for support for
funding of state highway improvements.
d. Acknowledgment of a memo from Police Chief Aschenbrener
regarding the status of vehicle leases.
e. Authorization for the issuance of a purchase order to Hinkley
Chevrolet in the amount of $29,518.32 for a 2004 Tahoe for the
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fire department, along with authorization for the sale of the 1989
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f. Approval of the permanent appointment of Kristen Schabacker as
Finance Director, effective March 1.
g. Adoption of Ordinance No. 390, "AN ORDINANCE
AMENDING TITLE 6 CHAPTER 3 SECTION 1 OF THE CITY
CODE," designating the intersection of Victoria Road and Marie
Avenue as a four way stop intersection.
h. Approval of the issuance of a purchase order to Pearson Bros.,
Inc. for 2004 street sweeping, for its low bid of $70.00 per hour.
i. Authorization for the issuance of a permit to Lawrence Sign for a
63.3 square foot illuminated sign face change at SuperAmerica,
1200 Mendota Heights Road.
j. Authorization for reimbursement to United Properties for the
cost to construct a retaining wall within the city ponding
easement adjacent to the JES building at 2400 Pilot Knob Road,
from the Storm Water Utility Fund, at the unit price bid of
$15.40 per square foot, approximately $11,550.
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k. Approval of the list of contractor licenses dated March 16, 2004.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
NUISANCE COMPLAINT Council acknowledged a memo from Police Chief Aschenbrener
regarding a complaint about junk vehicles on properties on Fourth
Avenue.
Mayor Huber stated that the issue has been resolved, but he is
interested in trying to do some things to strengthen the nuisance.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that the city has received a lot of
complaints from people about why there are so many cars parked in
that area.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved to acknowledge the report from
Chief Aschenbrener.
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Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
} Ayes:4
Nays: 0
STOP SIGN REQUEST Council acknowledged a memo from Police Chief Aschenbrener
regarding a request for stop signs along the Highway 110 frontage
road between Glenhill and Lexington.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that when the Mendota
Interchange was constructed there was a concern that people would
use the frontage road rather than T.H. 110. That seems to be the
case, and people are driving at 50 miles per hour or more. There is a
trail and people are using it, but there is a section where there is no
trail and people have to walk along the street. One of the neighbors,
in her concern for the families in the area, has asked that stop signs
be installed on the Victoria Road at Hunter Lane and at Glenhill
Road. Because the frontage road belongs to the state, MnDOT must
approve the signs, but she asked for the support of Council and the
Police Chief for both or at least one of the stop signs.
Councilmember Schneeman moved to acknowledge the memo from
Chief Aschenbrener.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes:4
Nays: 0
VISITATION CONVENT Council acknowledged a memo from Finance Officer Schabacker
BOND REFUNDING regarding a request from Visitation Convent for refunding of the
$2,400,000 industrial revenue bonds issued for a classroom addition
in 2002.
Finance Officer Schabacker stated that Visitation would like to
request a refunding of the bonds to extend out the maturity of the
bonds from September, 2007 to April, 2014. She stated that the city
ordinance specifies how to calculate an administrative fee for
revenue bonds but does not speak to refunding issues. She is
recommending a flat fee of $500 for this issue to cover staff time for
review of the documents.
Mr. Bill Sullivan, Chair of the Financing Committee for Visitation
and a member of the board, introduced Mr. Dick Miller from Wells
Fargo, Mr. Rich Davern, Chief Financial Officer for Visitation, and
Ms. Dawn Nichols, Head of School at Visitation.
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Mr. Miller stated that what is entailed in the financing was to stretch
the payments out for seven years for constructing the middle school.
It became clear that they could pay it off, but it became prudent to
stretch it out to preserve some of the gifts and endowments they have
received. Also, interest rates have come down since the original
bond issuance.
With respect to the administrative fee, Mayor Huber stated that this
application is reasonably routine and did not require significant staff
time, so $500 seems appropriate. If there were a similar request that
involves more staff time, the fee would be adjusted. Councilmember
Krebsbach stated that the original issue was only for $2.4 million,
which is less than many of the revenue bonds that have been
authorized by the city. That should be part of Council's
consideration of administrative fees in the future.
Councilmember Vitelli moved adoption of Resolution No. 04 -17,
"RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF
THE SCHOOL FACILITY REVENUE REFUNDING NOTE,
SERIES 2004 AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF
DOCUMENTS RELATING THERETO (ACADEMY OF THE
VISITATION PROJECT)."
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
CLAIMS LIST Councilmember Schneeman pointed out that one of the significant
claims is a payment of $108,63 8.00 to the City of West St. Paul for
dispatching services. That is a significant amount of money, and
people should know what the service costs the city.
Councilmember Krebsbach moved approval of the List of Claims
dated March 16, 2004 and totaling $249,176.61.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
PUBLIC COMMENTS Mr. Jim Losleben, 815 Hazel Court, stated that he was present on
behalf of Councilmember Duggan, who anticipated that something
would be on the agenda but is not. He read a letter from
Councilmember Duggan requesting that Council extend to April 7
the opportunity to offer motions with respect to the Galligan/Katz
matter ant that on April 7 Council reconsider its action on March 1
regarding the amendment to the May 20, 2003 minutes and
reconsider its action lifting the red tag on the project at 1845 Hunter
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Lane because the Katz's and Galligans were not given the
opportunity to speak on March 1.
Mayor Huber asked whether anyone in the majority wishes to
reconsider the motion.
Attorney Schleck stated that he thinks this is highly irregular.
Council does not have provisions proxy actions by Council
members. Also, if there is an issue that needs to be further
considered as opposed to reconsideration, Council members can
bring that up whenever they want. If it is Council's pleasure to deal
with this issue further, there is no need for reconsider it. They can
consider it anew. He recommended that Council continue its policy
of no proxy actions by Council members who are in absence.
Mayor Huber stated that Councilmember Duggan is out of the
country and was concerned that if he wanted to bring this issue up it
had to be done this evening. He stated that Councilmember Duggan
could have called a member of Council to ask them to make the
statement.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that Councilmember Duggan did
contact her, but her feeling on the second item (red tag) is that he
needs to bring that forward at a meeting. Regarding the minutes, if
there is time for him to bring that forward on April 7 that is fine.
She would have no problem asking Council to consider that item on
April 7.
Councilmember Schneeman asked why Council would change the
minutes.
Mayor Huber responded that there has been discussion and debate as
to whether there was any misrepresentation made when the building
permit was requested and whether anything about the project
violated any city ordinances. The project was red tagged so the city
could look at the project to see if there were misrepresentations made
or whether there were any violations. As part of that process, there
was information that came forth that there were some items in the
minutes from the May 20, 2003 meeting that were wrong. He agreed
with Councilmember Krebsbach that the minutes were changed two
weeks and there is nothing that stops Council from changing them in
the future.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she voted against the motion
to change the minutes, not because of concern about the minutes, but
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because she does not want to endorse a policy of going back and
changing minutes.
HEARING — SOMERSET VIEW Mayor Huber opened the meeting for the purpose of a public hearing
AREA IMPROVEMENTS on proposed street, curb and gutter and storm sewer improvements to
serve the Somerset View area. Council acknowledged a report from
Civil Engineer Mogan.
Mayor Huber reviewed the hearing process for the audience and
asked Engineer Mogan for a history of the project.
Engineer Mogan stated that staff sent a survey to neighborhood
residents two years ago to ask if they were interested in a street
reconstruction project, and a majority of the people who responded
were not in favor of a project. In the two years since then, the streets
have gotten worse, and staff felt they should be a priority for a street
reconstruction project. There are 2.4 miles of streets in the
neighborhood, most of which were built in 1973. They were built
without curb and gutter and with little storm. sewer. It is the city
policy to encourage neighborhoods that are being considered for
reconstruction to upgrade their streets with curb and gutter and storm
sewer, and the city contributes towards the project. Most of the
right-of-way width in this neighborhood is 50 feet, which is narrower
than most of the right-of-way in the city. Staff is presenting a
proposal to reconstruct the neighborhood with curb and gutter and
storm sewer, maintaining the existing street width plus about two
feet on each side for the curb and gutter. There are some issues to be
worked out with the storm sewer connections on Dodd Road and at
Somerset Country Club. The city needs to get permission from
MnDOT and from the country club to do those connections. The
storm water generally flows westerly. On the north end of the
neighborhood it flows to Dodd and some of it on the east side goes
directly to Somerset. There is a storm sewer pickup point on
Somerset Road that connects to the Dodd Road system. Water is
conveyed to that storm sewer through the drainage ditches. The
existing storm sewer that was installed by MnDOT was done without
much design consideration as to what area it picks up, so it is
probably under sized. It was constructed by MnDOT maintenance
people in the 1960's. There is no direct connection to that line, so
there is a concern about that line being inadequate after the storm
sewer connection is made. The surface runoff currently goes to
Somerset Country Club, and also, some of the Dodd Road storm
sewer system goes there.
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Mayor Huber noted that the Somerset ponding system serves as a
collection area for much of the storm water runoff, including the
runoff coming from West St. Paul at Delaware and Ruby Drive.
Engineer Mogan stated that there have been city projects on the golf
course to handle runoff. None of the drainage patterns will be
changed, but there is a concern that the existing storm sewer pipes
are not adequate to handle the additional water. Staff also needs to
address whether the ponding system on the golf course can handle
the increased rate at which the water will arrive in the ponding
system.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that when the feasibility study was
discussed in February, Engineer Mogan brought the watermain issue
to Council's attention. She asked whether he had additional
information
Engineer Mogan stated that rather than the connection he thought St.
Paul Water would recommend between Beebe and Delaware, there is
another connection that would be shorter from near Dodd Road and
Chippewa, and St. Paul Water thinks doing some work there could
resolve the water pressure issue on Beebe. That would be part of the
project. Dodd Road would not be opened — there would have to be a
jacked installation. The city's water revenue fund would be used to
pay for the cost. There is also a stretch of watermain on Hingham
that meets the break criteria, and St. Paul Water will want that
replaced.
Councilmember Vitelli asked if there are benefits to the residents by
the storm sewer improvement.
Engineer Mogan responded that curb and gutter is a part of the storm
sewer system. It protects the boulevards from plow damage and
helps maintain the street section and gives a finished appearance to
the project. There are many reasons why curb and gutter is desirable
and that is part of the reason the city developed the street
reconstruction program and participates in the cost.
Engineer Mogan stated than another peculiarity of this neighborhood
is that most of the streets were built without any gravel underneath.
If and when the project is redone and the pavement is removed, the
contractor will have to haul in gravel right away to put gravel down
behind their removal operations so that people have a surface to
drive on. There will be a lot of truck traffic and additional cost has
been built into the project to get rid of dirt and haul in gravel. This
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will be a difficult project. He estimated the project cost at $1.5
million. While that is a lot of money, it is in line with the cost for
reconstruction in other neighborhoods in the past. If the project goes
forward, the city will assume a large portion of the cost. It is
proposed that the assessments be at the same rate as Bunker Hills,
$3,900 per lot. The city will pay about 70% of the cost, because the
Somerset Country Club cannot be assessed and there are many
through lots in the neighborhood.
Responding to a question from Councilmember Vitelli, Engineer
Mogan stated that residents who have lots fronting on two streets
will only pay one assessment, and corner lots will be assessed the
same as the other lots.
Responding to a question from Mayor Huber, Engineer Mogan stated
that if an individual who lives on Delaware Avenue but has a drive
on one of the streets in the project, their lot will be assessed. He
stated that there are 105 properties that would be assessed a total of
$410,000. He stated that staff might pursue rain water gardens in the
neighborhood as part of the project. They would reduce the rate of
runoff and would benefit the system in a number of ways. A rain
garden is a depressed area that collects water when the rain comes
and there would be a perforated pipe system underneath it that
lowers the water level for a period of time and connects to the storm
system. It is planted with vegetation that can tolerate a wet condition
for a period of time. There is also a water quality benefit. He
showed pictures of rainwater gardens for the Council and audience.
He stated that this would be an option for the property owners who
would like it, and they would have no cost. With respect to the
project assessments, he stated that they could be paid over 19 years
or they could be paid up front without interest. The projected
interest rate is 7 %.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked which of the funds proposed to be
used for the project accrue funds annually.
Finance Officer Schabacker responded that the storm water fund
receives revenue each year through quarterly billings to property
owners. The water utility receives revenue from the surcharges on
the St. Paul Water bills.
Mayor Huber stated that projects like this are not fun. People will
get frustrated that their roads are torn up, and Council recognizes
that. The city does everything it can to make it as easy as possible
for the residents. He stated that residents have good knowledge of
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their neighborhood and Council wants their comments on different
aspects of the project during this hearing.
Engineer Mogan stated that as part of the project he is suggesting
that the city abandon a portion of Coleshire Lane between Dorset and
Hingham. There are no driveways on it, and rebuilding it would add
to the project cost. The fire chief does not have an issue with
abandoning it. Possibly, a trail could be built through there as part of
the project, and the city would retain at least an easement if not the
entire right -of -way.
Mayor Huber asked for questions and comments from the audience.
Mr. Rich Supra, 10 Hingham Circle, stated that everyone in the
neighborhood likes to walk on Coleshire and it would be nice to
have a bike path there. He asked how much curb and gutter benefits
house values. He also stated that some of the property owners need
driveways and asked if that would be done.
Mayor Huber responded that some of it is in the eye of the beholder
but he believes that when curb and gutter is installed in a project,
most neighborhoods like it better than before they had curb and
gutter. Most people have reservations because of the cost of
improvements and most will say that it was difficult during the
construction but that when a project is done, they like it better. He
stated that in past projects where driveways were reconstructed; there
were many problems, so it is not done anymore.
Mr. Heinz Otte, 22 Somerset Road, stated that the plans are
preliminary but asked what the plans are for elevations of the streets.
He also asked what needs to be done to make this a "go" project,
because not doing it is not acceptable.
Engineer Mogan responded that staff tries to put the elevation such
that the crown of the new street is a couple of inches higher than the
current street, but the curb and gutter will be about where the
boulevard is now. They try to make it fit without impacting
driveways.
Mayor Huber asked Mr. Otte why he would like the project done.
Mr. Otte responded that his lot gets water that comes across
Delaware from West St. Paul and storm water control is very
important in his considerations. Curb and gutter are wonderful.
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Mr. Gary St. John, 7 Mears Avenue, stated that he strongly supports
the street and curb and gutter improvements. He has been concerned
about the drainage for quite a while and the water table on his
property is so high that during the spring and early summer his sump
pump runs almost constantly. His neighbor to the west has the same
problem. He also has video of what it is like when it rains and where
the water runs like a river.
Mayor Huber pointed out that surface water runoff can be a
contributing factor to water in the house, but just because the surface
water will be handled better does not mean it will cure water
problems in the house.
Ms. Beth Geis, 1116 Dodd, stated that there is a fire hydrant between
her property and her neighbors, and she wondered how close the
hydrant will be after the project is done if the street is widened.
Also, across the street there is a power pole and she wondered
whether the pole will be replaced of if the electric lines would be put
under ground. She also asked who will pay for damage to the curb
after the snow plows hit it.
Mayor Huber responded that the decision on burying the power lines
is up to Xcel Energy and not a part of this project.
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Engineer Mogan stated that it is up to the neighborhood to ask Xcel,
but the cost for putting it underground is very expensive and most
neighborhoods do not have it done. With respect to the fire hydrant,
he stated that if it must be moved to put in curb and gutter, it will be
relocated or the road will be slightly shifted to get by it.
Administrator Danielson stated that the city budgets for curb repair
every year, and when people call to say there has been damage, the
city inspects the curb and repairs it if repair is needed.
Mr. Mike Ginster, 9 Mears Avenue, stated that he is in favor of the
project but safety is a major issue, and the pass - through from
Delaware to down Mears and on Staples, he is waiting for the day
when a tragic accident happens. This should be a topic for another
meeting. The simple solution is speed bumps, or perhaps closing
one side of Mears or one side of Staples so only the neighbors pass
through. He stated that the traffic speed and condition is frightening.
Mayor Huber responded that there are probably people passing
through the neighborhood who do not live there, but sometimes
people tend to drive too fast in their own neighborhoods. He
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encouraged everyone to be respectful of the people who live in the
neighborhoods and watch their speed.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she has noticed that more
neighborhoods have speed bumps in other cities, and she would like
to research why Mendota Heights opposes them. Councilmember
Schneeman agreed.
Mayor Huber responded that there are pros and cons to speed bumps.
If speed bumps were installed on Mears, there would be thirty
requests for speed bumps on other streets. He felt the Council needs
to talk about this neighborhood and other neighborhoods where
people pass through them and speed. He asked Chief Aschenbrener
to research what methods other cities have take to try to control
traffic safety in neighborhoods like this. He stated that Council is
willing to discuss traffic calming methods, but he is not in favor of
speed bumps.
Mr. Jeff Wold, 7 Beebe, read and submitted a letter from Mrs.
Margaret Nelson, 1177 Delaware, in opposition to the proposed curb
and gutter. Mr. Wold stated that in her situation, Mrs. Nelson has a
second drive on Ashley and a main drive on Delaware. He asked if
she would be assessed $3,900, and if she removes the driveway if
she would not be assessed. He also asked what the cost of curb and
gutter is.
Mayor Huber responded that Council would have to consider it, but
his initial reaction would be that if she wanted to go through the cost
of removing it, Council would think about it.
Attorney Schleck stated that once the assessment roll is certified, no
matter what happens the assessment would be certified.
Engineer Mogan stated that curb and gutter costs about $8.00 per
foot on each side of the street.
Councilmember Vitelli pointed out that the property owners would
only be paying about $3.00 a foot in this case.
Mr. Wold stated that if there is an opportunity to do without curb in
certain areas, such as on Ashley and Beebe, where alternate methods
of containing the road could be implemented. With respect to the
safety issue, he stated that he and his child wait for the bus on
Ashley. There is a young family at the comer of Dodd and Ashley
and a young family on Norma, just north of Ashley. He stands on
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Ashley nearly every morning and the traffic that zooms along Ashley
Lane going from Dodd over to St. Joseph's School is horrifying.
Mayor Huber stated that as a way of reaching the St. Joseph's
parents is to send out a flyer through the school.
Mr. Wold suggested closing Ashley at Delaware as a way to prevent
an accident. He stated that he was opposed to redoing the streets two
years ago. About half the neighborhood responded and there was a
margin of twelve votes, which is substantial.
Mayor Huber informed the audience that if the city does a total
reconstruction project, the assessments are payable over 19 years,
versus a rehabilitation project without curb and gutter that must be
paid off in ten years.
Mr. John Driscoll, 21 Dorset Road, stated that his main concern
about the project is the speed. He and his wife walk the
neighborhood and many times can hear people accelerating as they
come through. Improving the road will increase the speeds. Also
every morning one woman goes through the stop sign. He opposes
the curb and gutters because the potholes slow people down.
Mayor Huber pointed out that if the streets are just re- paved, they
will still be much better for a few years than they are now. He stated
that adding the curbs will not change the speed issue.
Mr. Driscoll stated that 7% interest seems very high. He also asked
when the construction would start and be done.
Engineer Mogan stated that if the project starts in May, it will be
most of the summer before the first lift of blacktop is finished. The
idea is to get people into their garages on a continual basis with the
exception of when the curb and gutter is put in.
Mr. Driscoll asked if the speed of the trucks working in the
neighborhood will be controlled.
Mayor Huber stated that the city will be paying the contractor, so the
city will take care of that. He asked the residents to call city staff if
they have any problems.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that when her neighborhood
streets were reconstructed, they had the same types of questions.
- Since the street improvements, there have been many additions put
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onto homes because the neighborhood looked so much nicer, and
many have put in new driveways. Also, there were many young
people driving through the neighborhood fast and they have grown
up and that has gotten better.
Mr. Mike Kieffer, 35 Somerset Road, expressed concern about
putting curb and gutter on Coleshire because it is a very narrow
street and his house is quite close to the street. He has to park
partially onto his lawn now to allow cars to go by. If the curb is
moved in two feet towards his house, it will make an appreciable
difference in how close the street is to his house. He asked that this
part of the curb and gutter be reconsidered. With respect to traffic
speed, he felt that Emerson is the worst situation. With no cross
traffic, and it is wider, when it is repaved people will go through
there at 50 miles an hour.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked Engineer Mogan if there was a
similar issue in Bunker Hills.
Regarding the Coleshire curb and gutter, Engineer Mogan stated that
in the Bunker Hills neighborhood, the street was an alley and it was
just paved with an inverted crown so the drainage went to the center
of the street. That may be an option here.
Mr. Larry Cole, 2 Dorset Road, stated that he opposes the project.
One of the reasons is because Council said it would be a tough
summer. The main reason for his opposition is because of the speed.
When he moved in ten years ago, the blacktop was smooth and there
was a lot of traffic that would come through fast and carelessly.
Since the streets have deteriorated, that does not happen now. He
asked Council to consider some way to keep the speeds down and
keep the cross traffic from zipping through from Delaware to Dodd.
Engineer Mogan informed the audience that a parking lane will be
striped on the north side of Emerson Avenue as part of the project
and there would be a centerline stripe for the traffic to follow on
Emerson. The parking lane could be used for pedestrian traffic too.
The parking lane would help to make the street look narrower and
keep traffic speeds down.
Councilmember Krebsbach suggested that perhaps some of the
streets could be marked one way. One of the main concerns of the
neighborhood is the traffic coming through the neighborhood, and
that should be one of Council's considerations in deciding on the
project.
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Mr. Tim Kirby, 3 Dorset Road, stated that he likes the idea of having
some one -way, do not enter signs. He has a 30 foot pine tree on the
corner that gets hit every winter by someone coming down the hill.
He is very interested in having the roads fixed, and the gutter would
help his property. His lot gets a lot of runoff coming down the hill
and into his garage. He stated that when he lived in St. Paul, they
reconstructed his street, and the period of construction was not fun.
St. Paul did an entire project, including having the utilities put
underground. If the project is built, he hopes that the city will do
everything as well, so that the street does not have to be torn up in a
few years.
Engineer Mogan responded that he has been in contact with Xcel
Energy. Until a year ago, Xcel routinely replaced gas mains in
neighborhoods that had old gas mains. There has been a change in
the structure at Xcel and they got out of that business. They are
doing it now where it is required, and that may not be the case in this
neighborhood. He did not think they would replace all of the gas
main in this neighborhood. St. Paul Water will look at the water
system in the neighborhood and will replace some isolated sections.
Mr. Kirby stated that as far as the construction schedule is
concerned, it would be nice if city staff could give the neighborhood
a detailed schedule on the project, keeping people posted on when
their streets will be torn up. He stated that he just received his
valuation notice and the property value went up $30,000. He would
hate to get another notice after the project is done that says that
valuation was a mistake and his value went up $40,000.
Mayor Huber responded that when a parcel is assessed, the city has
to be able to prove that the improvement impacts the property
positively to the extent of the assessment.
Mr. Kirby stated that had the hearing happened a couple of weeks
ago, he would have missed it because he was out of town and the
notice was dated March 4 and arrived March 7. He felt that thirty
days notice on something like this would be a reasonable
expectation.
Mr. Jerry Geis, 1116 Dodd Road, questioned whether curb and gutter
would benefit his property. There is a ditch along Ashley and Beebe.
He asked if the entire neighborhood needs to treated the same with
the option being nothing. He asked if patching is an option, or could
it be resurfaced without the gutters.
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Mayor Huber responded that the reason hearings are held is to get
neighborhood comments. Council has heard comments from people
who have drainage problems and others who do not. Something
must be done with the streets. His preference is to do curb and
gutter. In Bunker Hills, one of the streets was constructed without
curb and gutter, as mentioned earlier tonight. There was also a
departure in that neighborhood from the width that had been used for
standard city streets. The streets in Somerset View are not proposed
to be widened to the city standard. If there is a portion of the
neighborhood that does not have to have curb and gutter, it may be a
possibility not to install them, but his preference is to do the project
and to do curb and gutter.
Mr. Geis stated that there are a lot of older people in the
neighborhood who are on limited income. He felt a road is needed
but questioned whether curb and gutter is needed. The total project
cost is $1.5 million. There are 105 lots, and of the $1.5 million,
$600,000 would be allocated to curb and gutter.
Engineer Mogan responded that the curb and gutter cost is about
$280,000, and the storm sewer cost is approximately $310,000.
Mr. Geis stated that the cost of the first class road resurfacing would
then be $900,000. The assessments would be $4,000 per lot. He
asked what would happen if just the road portion was done.
Engineer Mogan responded that if the city sticks to its policy, the
neighborhood would pick up the entire cost of the improvement.
After the MSA portion was taken out, the neighborhood would
assume $690,000, for an assessment of about $6,600.
Mayor Huber stated that the city has had a practice for years that
when a neighborhood agrees to do a full reconstruction, including
curb and gutter, half of the cost of the project would be spread out
over the entire city and the other half would be assessed to benefiting
neighborhood. If a neighborhood agrees to full reconstruction, the
assessments are spread over 20 years, but if just an overlay is done it
would be fully assessed against the neighborhood and would be
payable over the years. The life of a road that is constructed with
curb and gutter is much longer, and long term maintenance is much
less costly to the city. Council feels that in the long run, full
reconstruction is the best engineering answer to doing road projects.
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Mr. Todd Seacard, 11 Hingham, strongly supports the project. There
are many small children in the neighborhood and great roads would
be wonderful. The traffic issues have been raised tonight, but every
neighborhood has a traffic issue. He supported closing Mears and
Staples to through traffic. Hingham is not a through road, and he has
noticed that kids in cars do not care about potholes. He hopes that
Council does not decide to simply overlay the streets. He also hopes
that if Coleshire is closed, a path is constructed.
Mr. Gary Regan, 11 Mears, stated that the traffic on Mears on
Staples is from people cutting over to Highway 13. The Ivy Falls
neighborhood probably has a similar problem. If there were a no left
turn sign on Mears during certain times of the day, it might help. It
would be an inconvenience for some people in the neighborhood, but
if people want safety for their children they may have to take a
different route out of the neighborhood. A no left turn on Ashley
would also help. He would also support Coleshire being a bike path.
There was a gas line explosion on Dodd a number of years ago and a
gas valve on Mears was directly tied to the cause of the explosion.
The gas lines are very old, and he cannot see why this would not be a
time to do something about the problem that exists. He stated that if
the driveways are level with the street, the curb would be higher than
the driveways. The driveways are level with the lawns in the
neighborhood. He asked whether the construction would actually �.
create a dam between the lawn and the street.
Engineer Mogan responded that with the barrier curb, it drops down
to an inch and one half height through the driveway. That height is
matched to the existing driveway as closely as possible to where the
driveway currently exists.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that there are thirteen accesses to
Delaware and Dodd through the neighborhood. He proposed that
Council consider closing Ashley at Delaware, Beebe at Delaware,
Mears at Dodd, and Staples at Dodd, make Coleshire an alley with a
walking path in the area where staff recommends it be closed, and
close Coleshire at Dodd. He also recommended that Emerson be
made a one -way street. There would be snow plowing issues, but
there are too many accesses to major arteries in this neighborhood.
Councilmember Krebsbach agreed that Council should look at
closing off some of the accesses, but should take some time to study
the options.
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Mr. Joseph Kueppers stated that closing some of the streets is not
win/win because people would weave through the neighborhood.
Speed bumps on Staples and Mears would be the ideal solution to
the speed problems. The other issue is that curb and gutter through
the entire neighborhood might not be ideal because it is an old
neighborhood. When he bought his home, it was a quaint
neighborhood and it still is. He asked that Council consider not
putting in any curb and gutter on Coleshire or Somerset. He felt that
putting curb and gutter on those short streets would be ill advised.
Ms. Tamara St. John stated that they own the vacant lot next to their
on Mears and there is no driveway on it. She asked if they would be
assessed for that lot.
Engineer Mogan responded that if it is a legal lot, it would be
assessed, but he does not believe it is a legal lot.
Ms. St. John stated that there is a road that has never been vacated
next to their vacant lot and she asked what process they would need
to go through to have it vacated.
Administrator Danielson responded that they would need to make
application for the vacation. Mayor Huber suggested that Ms. St.
John meet with staff to discuss the vacant lot issue and the vacation.
Ms. Kathy Lefler, 22 Dorset, stated that she supports the
reconstruction, but speed is a big issue. She supports speed bumps.
There is a four way stop at her corner, and 90% of the cars just slow
down. People do not obey signs.
Ms. Lisa Graham Peterson stated that hers is the only address on
Coleshire Lane. She felt that curb and gutter is not necessary on
Coleshire. Parking would be an issue, and her house does not have a
water issues.
Mr. Jim Harold, 11 Beebe, stated that he came to the hearing because
he is concerned about safety. The streets appear to be straight but
actually have much more of a curve at 25 miles and hour and a
substantial curve at 30 to 40 and the hills make it difficult to see.
Many people in the neighborhood have children. He would like to
keep the streets as narrow as possible. They were not designed for
the traffic and speeds. He did not feel there is a need for curb and
gutter but understands that some of the streets need curb and gutter.
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Engineer Mogan responded that the road widths will remain the
same except for the additional width need for the curb. He stated
that an eleven foot driving lane is narrow. Beebe also has a
substantial drop.
Mr. Bob Borovansky, 561 Emerson, stated that his driveway is on
Coleshire and it is an alley. His preference would be no curbs on
Coleshire. He has no problem with closing the portion of Coleshire
that is recommended but he has some reservations about starting to
close streets off because that would push traffic to Emerson. He
pointed out that Coleshire is a heavy school bus route. He stated that
some of the speed issues are the buses and trash trucks. The stop
signs at Somerset and Coleshire and at Coleshire and Dorset are
down. There is no way someone on Emerson would be able to stop
if someone comes out from the side streets.
Mrs. Borovansky stated there are no street signs on the two corners
of Coleshire Lane, and that is a real safety issue. Also, she had a
question about what would be done about mail delivery during
construction.
Engineer Mogan responded that some of the contractors have taken
the mailboxes and put them in a central location and set up a
temporary mailbox layout for a group of homes while a project is
under construction. Other contractors have moved them out of the
way temporarily. It has been left up to the contractors, but the mail
does get delivered.
Mrs. Borovansky stated that most of the properties on Emerson have
a natural dip below the street grade. She asked if that will be filled.
Engineer Mogan responded that there is a low spot at about the
middle of the block and that depression will be filled in as part of the
project.
Mr. Art Miller, 1 Dorset Road, agreed with Councilmember Vitelli's
comments about closing some of the streets. As one comes down
Dorset and makes a left hand turn around the corner, Burr Oak Road
continues on and makes an "L" shape to the left. He felt Burr Oak
should be vacated. He stated that there will be a tremendous water
problem on Dorset if curb and gutter is not installed. Dorset takes
water off of Delaware and it comes over and down into his area.
Curb and gutter are absolutely necessary. He would have no
opposition if Dorset was closed at Delaware.
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Ms. Geis, 1116 Dodd, stated that her neighbor at 502 Norma has a
tree that she has been feuding with the city about forever. It is
clearly a city tree and too close to the road and will have to be taken
out as part of the project. Going up Ashley, the road is narrow and
many trees are close to the edge. She asked if there are provisions to
remove the trees that are too close to the road.
Engineer Mogan stated that he promised the owner of 502 Norma
that the tree will be removed as part of the project. Also, there is a
large cottonwood tree on Ashley that is in the way and will be taken
down.
Mr. Gary Reagan stated that he has watched the traffic on his road
for years and there is a safe speed and a 30 mph speed. Many of the
cars are going 30 or less and they wouldn't get a traffic ticket, but it
is not a safe speed for the neighborhood. By closing off some of the
streets and not having a lot of access into the area might impact
people's house insurance rates because the rates have to do with
accessibility by the fire department.
Mr. Otte stated that there are a lot of services in the neighborhood
that are delivered by vehicles. Council should not forget in its
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deliberations that the neighborhood needs those services.
Mr. Todd Seagard, 11 Hingham, asked if there will be another
hearing if the city is proposing major traffic pattern changes.
Mayor Huber responded that there should be an additional hearing,
because Council needs the neighborhood input.
Mr. Seagard stated that there wouldn't be much time if there are
studies to be done to determine how to change the traffic patterns,
then have a hearing, and get the bids out; it would significantly
shorten the time till spring.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would like to have more
information before making a decision. She would like information
on which streets would not have the curb and which ones would.
She would also like more detail on the finances. She would also like
there to be an inquiry to Xcel about repair or replacement of some of
the gas mains. She would like to have the street reconstruction
issues on the next agenda. Traffic is a separate issue from the
reconstruction, and there should be a plan whereby there would be
some streets that could not be entered from Delaware or Dodd.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
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Councilmember Vitelli stated that staff should examine closing off
some of the streets. There are 13 entries to two major arteries and
Council should seriously consider eliminating some of them. He
suggested that Council plan to hold a public hearing a month from
now to examine some of the traffic calming actions that can be
taken. He felt that is tied to the street reconstruction, because if a
street is closed, curb and gutter does not have to be installed there.
The fire chief may have an issue with closing streets and public
works will also have snow plowing issues. He would like staff to
work with public works and the fire department to see if there is a
possibility of closing some of the accesses to Dodd and to Delaware.
He feels Coleshire should be considered an alley and not have curb
and gutter. He asked if there is a need to widen the streets and if
curb and gutter can be installed within the existing width.
Engineer Mogan stated that there are good reasons not to narrow the
streets. Streets can only be plowed as wide as the curb and gutter
allows, so if the street section is narrowed further, the plow will
never get the street width plowed totally. From an operations
standpoint, the street width is at a minimum now at 11 foot driving
lanes.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he is very pleased with the /
professional discussion this evening and pleased that it appears that a `\
high percentage of the residents want to proceed with the project.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that the closing of the streets
must be studied. Council has not heard from a lot of people on that
issue. Police and fire and public works have to advise Council on
that issue.
Mayor Huber stated that the best part of being on Council is having
neighborhood meetings and hearing what people have to say. The
audience gave excellent input this evening. By the comments it
seems that generally speaking people are concerned about the speeds
but seem to generally be in favor of doing something.
There being no further questions or comments from the audience,
Councilmember Krebsbach moved that the hearing be closed.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Mayor Huber stated that there is a sense that the project should be
done but many things need to be studied and consideration. He does
not know if there is enough time to get the input and get the study
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done and go out with bids at a point in time to still get competitive
bids from the industry. If the process takes too long, the people who
will be bidding the project will either already have work done or will
be getting to the end of their capacity to do the project and the city
will not get a good price. If some of the issues can be resolved
quickly and the start the project this year, he is fine with that. If not
he would be very distressed with having taken all of the good input
received this evening and put the project on the shelf for a year and
then start over again. He would like to keep working on the project
and if the point is reached where the project can ordered and be let
for bids at a point in time when the city can still get competitive bids,
that would be fine. Otherwise, he would like to continue working on
the issues and discuss how to deal with the speed and the traffic
calming options, and it might be that it will be too late to do the
project this year but that Council can come up with a project to be
done in 2005.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that if in fact the gas mains need
to be replaced, that should be planned as part of the street
reconstruction so that everything is done at the same time and the
street does not need to be dug up in the near future. That may mean
it will need to be delayed until next year.
Councilmember Vitelli asked Administrator Danielson if a public
hearing is held a month from now and Council makes a decision to
go ahead, can the project be done this year.
Administrator Danielson responded that it is a very complicated
project and the city needs permission from other agencies. Approval
from the state is needed for MSA funds and the state also needs to
review some of the storm water issues. If that can be accomplished
quickly, the project could start this year. There is a queue that lines
up for state aid, and he does not know how big that is.
Councilmember Vitelli suggested that Council make a decision to
have another public hearing two Council meetings from now and
make a decision that night and get the project going. A month is
enough time for staff to come up with ideas on possible road
closures or no left turns, etc.
Councilmember Vitelli moved to conduct a public hearing on April
20 and that Council make a decision at that time.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
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Mayor Huber stated that he supports another public hearing if there
is a proposal to close streets, but he feels that the chance of getting
the project in this year is less than 50150. It would not be uncommon
to hold a public hearing on a project in January or February, so even
this hearing is very late. He would like to come to a decision on the
project to completion before the middle of June with construction in
2005.
Councilmember Schneeman stated that she would like to get the
project going. She has the sense the residents want the project to get
going. The roads are very bad and something needs to be done with
them. She agreed with Councilmember Vitelli about holding another
hearing next month.
Mayor Huber stated that Council needs to look at what to do to
control traffic through the neighborhood. This goes beyond a street
reconstruction project because of the traffic issues and the project is
much more complex than most projects. He would not mind having
another hearing in a month to specifically discuss the traffic issues
but that means staff will have to come back with some
recommendations along with answering any other outstanding
questions about the project itself. He asked if staff can be prepared
in a month to answer the traffic issues.
Administrator Danielson stated that staff will prepare a timetable for
Council's consideration at the next meeting.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she does not know that the
traffic has to be related to the street reconstruction other than if some
of the streets are closed off. There are two major infrastructure
issues — the gas main and the removal of all of the gravel. That adds
a lot of complexity and cost to the project. Council can bear that in
mind and decide in two weeks.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that the staff time that will be required
to review the traffic ideas will not take engineering time. Those
reviews will be by the police, fire and public works departments.
Engineering can proceed with what they are doing on the project
while the other departments look at the traffic issues.
Administrator Danielson responded that even though the other
departments are involved, engineering would lead the discussion.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she does not know why
Council would want to push this. The hearing on the traffic ideas
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could be held at another time rather than being tied to the street
reconstruction decision.
VOTE ON MOTION:
Ayes: 2
Nays: 2 Huber, Krebsbach
Mayor Huber stated that he wants to keep the process moving on. A
hearing on the traffic issues can be held at any time.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that Administrator Danielson has
indicated that a street reconstruction timeline can be put together in
two weeks. At that time Council can look at the project on its own
merits and its complexity and costs and whether staff can handle the
project this year. Council can discuss the traffic issues as a separate
matter.
Mayor Huber directed staff to report back with an update in two
weeks. He stated that there will be a hearing on the traffic ideas in
the future. He announced that the next Council meeting will be held
on Wednesday, April 7.
RECESS Mayor Huber called a recess at 10:45 p.m. The meeting was
reconvened at 10:55 p.m.
INTRODUCTIONS Mayor Huber introduced the new City Engineer, Sue McDermott, to
the Council.
CASE NO. 02 -11, Council acknowledged a memo from Assistant Hollister regarding
FEFFERCORN — GATEWAY a request from Mr. Ross Feffercorn for approval of the final
BANK development plan for the Gateway Bank of Town Center. Council
also acknowledged associated staff reports. Mr. Feffercorn was
present for the discussion.
Mr. Feffercorn reviewed the site plan, stating that there have been a
few considerations in the site planning that have changed. He
reviewed one of the changes, which was relocation of the drive -
through area. His landscape architect is working with the owners of
the animal hospital about the relationship between the parking lot
and their driveway. He reviewed elevations of the proposed bank
building for Council and the audience and described how the
building will relate to the other retail buildings. He stated that he
also included in Council's package of information the Mendota
Heights Town Center project summary, which is an abbreviated
introduction to a very thick set of documents for the commercial
association. The association will take fees from the property owners
for maintenance of the common areas. The residential association is
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
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set up to contribute to the commercial association for a small amount
of but significant share of the maintenance of the common areas.
Councilmember Vitelli moved adoption of Resolution No. 04 -18, "A
RESOLUTION APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN
FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR THE GATEWAY
BANK OF THE TOWN CENTER REDEVELOPMENT
PROJECT."
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Mr. John Schreier stated that he and his partner, Bruce Downey
started the project two years ago and looked seriously at 25 different
sites and always came back to this one. He is very pleased to be in
Mendota Heights and hopes to be into the permanent facility on
October 1.
Councilmember Vitelli pointed that Mr. Schreier is a local resident
and graduate of St. Thomas.
Mr. Bruce stated that he and Mr. Schreier are very happy to be part
of the community and looks forward to being a small community
bank.
Mr. Feffercorn stated that there has been an increase in activity on
the retail portion of the development. A letter of intent went out
today for a hair salon and a sandwich shop from his leasing agents.
He also had a meeting last week with a grocery store called Fresh
and Natural. He has also had conversations with other grocers. He
has talked to an ice cream store and to Brueggers Bagels
representatives. He will also meet with representatives of an Italian
restaurant group in Minneapolis. With respect to underground
parking, one of the ideas he has looked at is if it is the right kind of
grocery store, it could use a smaller footprint with underground
parking.
Mayor Huber pointed out that the grant funds must be protected. Mr.
Feffercorn should have a hard discussion soon over what the grocer's
intent is. Council does not want to go back to the Metropolitan
Council for renewal.
CASE NO. 04 -05, Council acknowledged a memo from Assistant Hollister
KLINGELHUTZ relative to continued discussion on an application from Klingelhutz
Development Company for a conditional use permit for planned unit
development, preliminary plat, wetlands permit and variance for
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individually owned town office buildings at 2311 Highway 55. Mr.
Terry Schneider was present for the discussion.
Mr. Schneider stated that he had submitted narrative to city staff that
has been codified into the draft developer's agreement. He stated
that he is comfortable with the staff recommendations. He asked for
clarification on some of the items in the recommending resolution.
He asked that item number 4 be amended to state that parking along
private streets less than 28 feet in width is prohibited. With regard
Item 10, he had talked about planting some plantings and then
relocating them for Phase 2, so Item 10 should be deleted. He would
like to plant something so the development looks good.
Councilmember Krebsbach asked whose best interest Item 2 is in.
Attorney Schleck stated that the original resolution said that the
MnDOT right -of -way would be conveyed to the developer. The
change he proposed is that the city make its best effort to obtain the
right -of -way, so there is no guarantee that the city will get it. If the
developer is in compliance with all of the city's approvals and the
terms of the developer's agreement, the city will give the applicant
the first chance to purchase the right -of -way, but if he does not want
to purchase it, the city has the right to sell it to someone else. The
price would be equal to whatever the cost would be to the city to
acquire the land.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would like to have that
item amended so that the price of the land can be determined at the
time of sale. The city has a chance to buy something at a low cost
but if the city can make money on it, she felt it should.
Councilmember Schneeman asked how Council would determine
what to sell it for. She also asked what has been done in the past.
Attorney Schleck responded that the city has done the transfers at
cost.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that it would have to be appraised.
Mr. Schneider stated that MnDOT is required to get an appraisal and
has done an appraisal. They have told him that they are prepared to
do an inflationary adjustment on that appraisal and that would be the
fair value of the property. That, plus the city's costs, is what he has
expected throughout this process. The opportunity for the city to
make some additional margin would be the Waters Drive right -of-
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way because that is not done through an appraisal process — it is the
transfer of a vacated road to the city.
Mayor Huber stated that what Mr. Schneider is saying is that
MnDOT is bound to sell it at market value.
Mr. Schneider stated that he is committing to enter into a purchase
agreement on the appraised price now and then do all of the
engineering. He needs to have that resolved now. He asked Council
to stick with the original plan and get the first piece transferred.
Councilmember Schneeman agreed, stating that it is too late in the
game to start pressuring the developer.
Mr. Schneider stated that the Waters Drive parcel is addressed in the
developer's agreement.
Attorney Schleck stated that he just received the draft agreement
today and it will likely change significantly before it is adopted. If
Council could describe to him what they would like about the Waters
Drive transfer, he will put that into the agreement.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that she would like to see in the
agreement that the sale of that property is yet to be determined. If
the city has the ability to make money on the property, it should.
Our objective is to have this developer acquire the land so that the
development fills out the way Council hopes. He feels the wording
should be left as proposed.
Councilmember Schneeman asked why the Council should change
now and do something that it has not done in the past. She asked
who else the city would sell it to.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that this is at the point where all of
the pieces are in a resolution. This is the point to discuss the issue.
Mayor Huber stated that apparently an appraisal has been done on
the highway right -of -way and MnDOT will adjust it for inflation and
sell it to the city. If the appraisal is legitimate, he is fine with selling
it to the developer for that price plus the city's costs.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that Council can agree to the
transfer of the excess right -of -way, but the City Attorney is looking
for direction on the sale of the Waters Drive right -of -way.
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Mayor Huber stated that in the case of the highway right -of -way, that
is one transaction. In the other transaction, MuDOT would turn over
the Waters Drive right -of -way to the city at no cost to the city. For
that transaction, the city has not bought land and his feeling on that is
that it should be either appraised or use the same appraisal used for
the other right -of -way.
Attorney Schleck stated that the turnback of the turn around is a
different type of transaction. It is the vacation of right -of -way as
opposed to a sale. When the city vacates a street, the right -of -way
goes back to the original owner.
Mr. Schneider stated that his understanding, after discussions with
MnDOT, that the state actually has fee title. His expectation is that
there will be a turnback of the property and the city will negotiate a
price for him to purchase it.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that based on what the city
attorney is stating, she would like to give him direction that it is clear
that the city will have the opportunity to accrue some profit from the
Waters Drive vacation.
Mayor Huber stated that it appears that there is a consensus on
changing item four slightly and stricken ten.
Attorney Schleck there is typographical error in number 16 to delete
from "shall" to the end of the sentence.
Mr. Schneider stated that the only other comment he has about the
draft developer's agreement is that there is a reference to
conservation easement in it, and in his conversations with city staff
that was just picked up from a different developer's agreement and
that would most likely come out.
Councilmember Schneeman moved adoption of Resolution No. 04-
19, "A RESOLUTION APPROVING A WETLANDS PERMIT,
PRELM41NARY PLAT, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A
PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND VARIANCE FOR A
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THE SOUTHWEST
CORNER OF HIGHWAY 13 AND HIGHWAY 55," as amended.
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
( Nays: 0
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NEWSLETTER Council acknowledged and discussed a memo from the
DISTRIBUTION HR/Communications Coordinator regarding distribution of the
"Heights Highlites." Mr. George Lowe was present for the
discussion.
Mayor Huber stated that there have been some gaps in the
distribution of the newsletter. Mr. George Lowe had sent him a
letter stating that he and his neighbors have not received a newsletter
in fifteen months. Mayor Huber, himself, did not receive the most
recent one.
Councilmember Vitelli recommended option two, to spend $200 per
quarter to have each newsletter individually addressed by household.
Councihmember Krebsbach moved to authorize the additional $200
per issue to have each newsletter addressed.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
AIRPORT ZONING BOARD Council acknowledged a memo from Administrator Danielson
regarding Joint Airport Zoning Board indemnification.
Attorney Schleck stated that the city planner's memo has indicated
that no changes will be needed in the city's zoning ordinance based
on the draft airport ordinance as it is proposed. The planner stated
airport zoning overlay district would not have an impact on
development within the city. Attorney Schleck stated that this is not
a rock solid indemnification. It still provides that MAC gets to
decide whether any claim the city makes is within the purview of the
indemnification. It does, however, appear to be the best the city will
get from MAC, and Council must decide if it is good enough.
Councilmember Krebsbach stated that Eagan abstains from any
votes, and that is an option. She asked Councilmember Vitelli
whether there was a vote at the last Airport Zoning Board meeting.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that the airport zoning ordinance is
very much completed. There was a vote to submit that document to
the Commissioner of the Department of Transportation for approval.
She would then send it back to the Joint Airport Zoning Board, and
they will vote on its approval.
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She asked Council whether she and Councilmember Vitelli should
vote on the ordinance at the next meeting.
Councilmember Vitelli recommended that Council approve the
indemnification agreement and that the two representatives vote on
the airport ordinance at the next Joint Airport Zoning Board meeting.
Councilmember Vitelli moved that the city enter into the
Indemnification and Cooperation Agreement Regarding the Wold-
Chamberlain Field Joint Airport Zoning Board and the Minneapolis-
St. Paul International Airport Zoning Ordinance, and authorize its
execution by the Mayor and City Clerk.
Councilmember Krebsbach seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Councilmember Schneeman moved to terminate the city's
indemnification at such time as the city fully executes the
indemnification agreement.
Mayor Huber seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
Councilmember Krebsbach asked the city attorney to give her advice
about the standing of the indemnification agreement in terms of what
protection the agreement gives the city's zoning board
representatives in the face of pending lawsuits and why some cities
have opted not to vote on the ordinance.
Attorney Schleck responded that there are two issues. First, no
indemnification is provided under the agreement unless the city
amends its zoning ordinance and comprehensive plan to comply with
the joint zoning board requirements. One question is what happens
in the timeframe before that ordinance is finalized. The city cannot
amend its zoning ordinance because that ordinance has not been
finalized yet. The indemnification provided by the agreement is
questionable until the city amends its comprehensive plan and
zoning ordinance. The second important point is that there are
limitations and exclusions in the agreement that basically comes
down to MAC deciding whether someone is indemnified or not. It is
very difficult to say in a concrete what the answer to the question of
voting on the ordinance is.
Mayor Huber stated that what happens if the city executes the
agreement and the two Councilmembers vote on the airport zoning
ordinance and at some future time, someone from Bloomington sues
and MAC says the Councilmembers acted outside of the scope of the
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exclusion, so they are not going to be covered. Further, the city
would have acted to rescind its indemnification. He asked who C
would be liable if that were to happen. He felt that perhaps the two
Councilmembers would not want to vote on the ordinance.
Attorney Schleck stated that given the report from the city planner,
whether they vote or not does not seem to have an affect on Mendota
Heights.
Mayor Huber stated that the city has nothing to gain by voting, so
why vote.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he will not vote on the ordinance
— he will abstain.
.RESIGNATION Council acknowledged a letter of resignation from Civil Engineer
Marc Mogan.
Mayor Huber expressed Council's appreciation to Engineer Mogan
for his ten years of service and his dedication to the city.
Councilmember Vitelli moved to accept the resignation with regret.
Councilmember Schneeman seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
COUNCIL COMMENTS Councilmember Vitelli informed Council that the Noise Oversight
Committee (NOC) met Thursday along with the Joint Airport Zoning
Board. It is getting to a point where they will try to vote and send a
message to the planning and environment committee on the new
noise levels projected for ,the year 2007 around the airport. Two
categories are being looked at for recommendation. One is the
contour maps. He feels the NOC is close to agreement on that issue.
The other issue is what to do about reimbursement or mitigation of
noise on homes that are in an area of noise less than 65dn1. He did
not think there would be agreement on that. The next meeting of
NOC is on March 24.
Councilmember Schneeman asked that residents please put their
trash receptacles away rather than leaving them alongside their
garages. She has received several calls and complaints from
residents.
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Mayor Huber announced that Scott Goldenstein was awarded with
i the George Lowe Firefighter of the Year award at the Fire Relief
Association's recent annual banquet.
ADJOURN There being no further business to come before Council,
Councilmember Krebsbach moved that the meeting be adjourned to
the Council goal setting workshop on Friday at 8:00 a.m.
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Ayes: 4
Nays: 0
TIME OF ADJOURNMENT: 12:30 a.m.
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K thleen M. Swanson
City Clerk