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CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
NOVEMBER 24, 2020
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was held on Tuesday,
November 24, 2020 in the Council Chambers at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve at 7:00 P.M.
The following Commissioners were present: Chair Mary Magnuson, Commissioners Patrick
Corbett, Litton Field, Michael Toth, Brian Petschel, and Andrew Katz. Those absent:
Commissioner John Mazzitello.
Approval of Agenda
Chair Magnuson suggested moving Item B under Public Hearings to be considered as the first
public hearing as that item will likely have less discussion.
The agenda was approved as amended.
Approval of October 27, 2020 Minutes
COMMISSIONER FIELD MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TOTH, TO
APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 27, 2020
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
ABSTAIN: 1 (Petschel)
Hearings
B) PLANNING CASE 2020-23
PAUL RICE AND KAITLIN GARDNER ON BEHALF OF FRANK KLEIN, 1826
VALLEY CURVE ROAD – LOT SPLIT AND VARIANCES
Community Development Director Tim Benetti explained that Paul Rice and Kaitlin Gardner
are requesting approval to subdivide the property located at 1826 Valley Curve Road. This
subdivision request requires City approval before any plat or survey can be accepted and
recorded by Dakota County. The property is owned by Frank Klein, the grandfather of Mrs.
Gardner. The request also includes a wetlands permit and variance to the front lot line average
setback rules.
Hearing notices were published and mailed to all properties within 350-ft. of the site; no
comments or objections to this request were received.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti provided a planning staff report and a
presentation on this planning item to the Commission (which is available for viewing through
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the City’s website).
Paul Rice and Kaitlin Gardner were present representing the applicant. Mr. Rice commented
that they are excited to grow their family in Mendota Heights and this request would allow
them to do so. Ms. Gardner commented that this would also give them the ability to live next
door to her grandfather, who is aging.
Chair Magnuson asked the amount of space that would be left for a backyard if the home is
pushed back 43 feet.
Mr. Rice commented that they are already considering not having a typical backyard in order to
preserve the wetland area. Ms. Gardner commented that this option would also provide them to
have the desired amount of square footage while preserving the wetland and buffer area.
Chair Magnuson opened the public hearing.
Seeing no one coming forward wishing to speak, Chair Magnuson asked for a motion to close
the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER FIELD MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CORBETT, TO
CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
COMMISSIONER FIELD MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CORBETT, TO
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE LOT SPLIT, WETLANDS PERMIT AND
VARIANCE TO THE AVERAGE FRONT YARD SETBACK RULE, FOR THE PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 1826 VALLEY CURVE ROAD, BASED ON THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS-
OF-FACT THAT SUPPORT THE APPLICATIONS REQUESTED HEREIN AND NOTED
WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT.
FURTHER DISCUSSION: COMMISSIONER CORBETT COMMENTED THAT THE
CORNER LOT MAY BE AN UNUSUAL PLACEMENT TO USE FOR THE STRING TEST.
HE COMMENTED THAT THE PLACEMENT SEEMS CONSISTENT WITH EVERY
OTHER HOME ON THE STREET AND WOULD BE MORE LIKELY TO PRESERVE THE
CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TIM BENETTI STATED THAT IT WAS A
50/50 CALL FROM STAFF AND AGREED IT WAS A TOUGH CALL. HE STATED THAT
IN ORDER TO COVER ALL BASES STAFF FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO REQUEST
THAT VARIANCE. HE COMMENTED THAT STAFF BELIEVED THAT THIS WAS A
REASONABLE REQUEST.
COMMISSIONER FIELD COMMENTED THAT THE 25 FOOT BUFFER WOULD STILL
BE FULLY MAINTAINED.
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COMMISSIONER KATZ COMMENTED THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE
HOMEOWNERS ALSO DESIRE TO BE PROTECTIVE OF THE CREEK.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Chair Magnuson advised the City Council would consider this application at its December 1,
2020 meeting.
A) PLANNING CASE 2020-15
MICHELLE CULLIGAN (ON BEHALF OF LARRY AND MARY CULLIGAN),
NW QUADRANT OF VICTORIA CURVE AND GLENHILL ROAD –
PRELIMINARY PLAT, CRITICAL AREA PERMIT, CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT AND VARIANCES
Community Development Director Tim Benetti explained that this second supplemental report
is related to the continuation of the “Valley View Oak 3rd Addition” subdivision request from
Michelle Culligan, acting on behalf of her parents and landowners Larry and Mary Culligan.
The original plat application requested nine new lots, eight of which would be for new single-
family buildings, and one lot for the existing Culligan family dwelling property at 1941
Glenhill Road. The developer has now revised their subdivision application from nine to six
lots, of which five would accommodate new single-family housing. This revised plat still
includes the request for a critical area permit due to the location of this site in the Critical Area
Overlay District, and a conditional use permit to develop and disturb areas on slopes between
18 and 40 percent throughout the site. The variances previously requested are no longer being
requested.
Hearing notices were published and mailed to all properties within 350-ft. of the site.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti provided a planning staff report and a
presentation on this planning item to the Commission (which is available for viewing through
the City’s website).
Commissioner Corbett stated that there is a total of five requirements/conditions, and he is most
concerned with Item E, which states that building areas must be on grades less than 18 percent.
He stated that none of the proposed building areas are on slopes under 18 percent.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti stated that the slopes analysis shows the
existing slopes, not the proposed. He explained that if approved, each lot builder would need to
apply for a Critical Area Permit and provide for a buildable area of 18 percent or less slope.
Commissioner Field stated that it would then seem that this would kick the can down the road
in respect to buildable area.
Public Works Director Ryan Ruzek stated that he would suggest that the applicant be allowed
to respond to the ability to create those buildable areas. He stated that this application would be
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reviewed under the existing rules and acknowledged that the building of the homes may fall
under the new rules.
Commissioner Petschel asked if this would be a situation where approving this request would
create a situation in which a buildable lot could not be created in the future.
Public Works Director Ryan Ruzek replied that would be a fair question to ask the developer to
demonstrate that ability.
Chair Magnuson stated that this request is to be reviewed under the existing code and rules.
Commissioner Petschel asked if this would be buildable, assuming that the final lot approval
would come in once the new DNR rules are adopted.
Commissioner Corbett commented that he would believe that would fall to the
developer/subdivider to demonstrate now rather than the individual lot builders.
Public Works Director Ryan Ruzek commented that the current City Code is at the 18 percent
slope mark which is equal to the proposed code the DNR wishes the City to adopt and therefore
that should be an equal comparison.
Chair Magnuson stated that she is concerned with that provision as well and questioned if a
Conditional Use Permit would even be allowable, as it would seem that the house pads and
private road would need to be reviewed and it would need to be demonstrated that the pads and
private roads could be constructed on slopes lesser than 18 percent. She stated that in her ten
years on the Commission this has been the most difficult application to review and wanted to
ensure that everyone understood the requirements of the existing code and what could be
required under a revised code, acknowledging that the burden would be on the applicant. She
commented that the applicant should demonstrate tonight that the building can occur on slopes
of 18 percent of less for both house pads and roads. She commented that she has a problem
hoping that the applicant can demonstrate that in the future under Critical Area Permits and
would want to see that demonstration tonight.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti confirmed that the Commission can require the
developer to demonstrate that.
Chair Magnuson referenced language from the staff report which states that the Conditional Use
Permit can only be granted when the mentioned conditions are met, including that the use is
consistent with the Critical Area District and Comprehensive Plan therefore that is another set
of criteria that the Commission must consider.
Michelle Culligan, applicant, stated that they heard the feedback from the Commission during
the last review and made revisions to the plan based on that input. She stated that the custom
home sites allow for custom grading rather than mass grading and she believes that the
proposed plan meets the existing rules. She highlighted the revisions that were made to the plan
to reduce density, remove variances, incorporating a more narrow private driveway rather than
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public road to minimize tree and vegetation disruption, necessary easements provided, and the
stormwater has been managed away from Mendota. She commented that the geotechnical
analysis supports stability of the proposed project and the conservative setback from the bluff
line achieves the objectives of the DNR recommended protection zone. She did not believe that
the CUP request is different from any of the neighboring properties. She commented that she
believes that these are buildable sites and commented that the proposed home sites are
preliminary and could be shifted. She stated that they have spent a lot of time and analysis
reviewing the slopes to ensure that these lots would be buildable. She stated that the private
driveway is far less disruptive than separate driveways would be.
Mike St. Martin, Loucks, commented that since the last review they reduced the number of lots
to better configure the lots and incorporate a private driveway in order to have less disruption.
He explained how the private driveway would move through the site and access the different
proposed sites. He noted that the home sites could be adapted to be fully within the green areas
of the slope analysis map.
Chair Magnuson asked how lot one would be shifted as it is shown completely within the
yellow area.
Mr. St. Martin commented that the existing homes along Culligan Lane are within similar
slopes and provided additional details on the grade of that site. He provided an overview of the
changes that were made to the stormwater management and drainage and identified the pathway
drainage would follow for collection.
Commissioner Toth stated that it appears the water from three homes would be intercepted to
the east and routed to the stormwater pond. He asked where the stormwater pond would be
located.
Mr. St. Martin identified the proposed location of the stormwater pond.
Commissioner Toth asked if the stormwater pond would be in an area of slopes greater than 18
percent, which would be above the elevation of the proposed homes. He asked how many
gallons of water the pond would hold at any time.
Mr. St. Martin replied that the pond would be sized to hold a 100-year event. He provided
details on what would occur in an overflow event.
Commissioner Toth asked the stability of the soil/rock beneath the pond in the event the pond
fails and whether that water would flow down the hill.
Mr. St. Martin stated that this would be a constructed and lined pond that would be inspected.
He stated that the pond would be lined with clay in order to prevent infiltration as the desired
intent would be for the filtered stormwater to enter the storm sewer.
Commissioner Petschel asked if the slope analysis is the existing or proposed conditions. He
identified the top left lot which would have greater than 40 percent slopes. He asked how it is
known that is manmade rather than natural.
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Mr. St. Martin replied that Ms. Culligan is the daughter of the person that constructed that
slope/building pad. He stated that the DNR letter indicated the protected area and noted that the
appropriate map shows that area proposed to be protected identified in green. He provided
details on the section view noting that they would be below the 35-foot elevation as required.
Bryan Ripp, Braun Intertec, stated that within the report there are two scenarios but advised that
the walls have been eliminated. He stated that during the initial evaluation they came to the
conclusion that the borings were not deep enough, so deeper borings were drilled to depths they
felt comfortable with based on the densities of the sands. He presented the double walk out
scenario and advised that a factor of safety of 1.7 was reached. He stated that for structures of
this nature a minimum factor of 1.5 is required and they are above that by 20 percent.
Commissioner Field asked if the slope analysis is for any given site or specific sites.
Mr. Ripp replied that this was mainly for the three homes on the western side of the property as
those would be considered the more difficult portions of the site compared to the other home
sites. He explained that borings were taken from different places on the site in order to provide
the general information. He stated that they do recommend additional site-specific borings for
each home site as this moves forward.
Chair Magnuson asked if there is a map that shows the identification of where the borings were
completed.
Mr. Ripp confirmed that there is a map that identifies the locations of the borings, noting that
the locations were chosen based on the different ground surfaces rather than the proposed lot
locations.
Chair Magnuson referenced the November 4th report. She stated that it would appear these
would be double basement homes that could go down 16 feet and noted that the report
mentioned groundwater levels as high as 20 feet.
Mr. Ripp replied that in the slope stability analysis they were conservative in those groundwater
models to allow for seasonal variation. He confirmed that groundwater was encountered at
those locations. He stated that in the modeling they assumed the groundwater to be at the
surface, or ten feet below.
Commissioner Katz asked if the additional site-specific borings would be done at a depth of 60
feet.
Mr. St. Martin stated that once the grading plan is known they would have the additional data to
determine how deep the site-specific borings should be but confirmed the borings would be
deeper than 25 feet.
Commissioner Katz commented that it seems that the stability is based on the structure of the
home and protecting the home and land around it. He stated that he has not seen a lot of
information about the impact that could occur downhill to Mendota from the displacement and
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additional weight that would be placed on this site.
Mr. St. Martin stated that the stability analysis looks for the lowest factor of safety and the
failure points did not extend to the downhill locations in Mendota. He explained that the
walkout basements provide a cut in the slope and the removal of that material would provide a
balance to the structure being built. He stated that the weight of the house is added, and the
removal of the soil is accounted for in the modeling.
Commissioner Katz stated that he would like to see more information showing that Mendota
would be protected in this plan.
Mr. Ripp provided details on the failure surface within the analysis, noting that the town of
Mendota is well beyond that range.
Commissioner Katz asked if the runoff water is accounted for in that modeling.
Mr. Ripp replied that they modeled the groundwater, using conservative scenarios. He stated
that the stormwater is on the surface and only impacts the stability if it infiltrates the
groundwater.
Commissioner Corbett asked if it can be shown how any of this development would not
exacerbate the conditions in Mendota caused by natural springs.
Mr. Ripp stated that with the proposed development, this would be the result.
Commissioner Corbett asked if baseline water runoff in Mendota was calculated to ensure that
this development would not make those conditions worse. He stated that this information shows
that the ground would hold up with the digging for the construction of the homes but asked if
there could be natural springs that may be impacted when digging out the sites for the
basements that could cause bigger issues in Mendota.
Commissioner Katz commented that the information shown has been great for Mendota Heights
but asked if there is information showing the analysis that was done for Mendota and potential
impacts on that town.
Mr. Ripp stated that there is a scaling issue. He commented that if they would have seen the
effects further down slope, there could be a point made but they did not see that.
Chair Magnuson asked if they tested the slope further down for stability and groundwater.
Mr. St. Martin displayed the stormwater map, explaining that they can intercept the surface
water bringing that to the pond. He stated that new storm sewer would be installed to intercept
groundwater to a certain depth. He noted that any water deeper than that would be essentially
unaffected by this development.
Commissioner Toth asked for more information on the water running off the slope shown in the
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soils and slope analysis.
Mr. St. Martin stated that they did not model the groundwater and instead artificially set that as
high to provide a conservative plan.
Commissioner Toth asked the margin of error in that analysis.
Mr. Ripp stated that a safety factor of one would mean balance and in order to reduce that level
of error the resistance is increased to at least 50 percent higher, but in this case, they went to 70
percent.
Mr. St. Martin commented that they input a higher groundwater level in order to make the
model conservative and estimate the failure plain. He stated that even with the more
conservative approach they still have the safety factor of 1.7.
Commissioner Toth stated that in theory this model would look good on paper but once you are
on site and the conditions are more accurately known, adjustments would need to be made. He
asked what the backup plan would be.
Mr. Ripp stated that he cannot predict what would happen on site. He stated that once the site-
specific borings are known, they can determine the adjustments that would need to be made.
Mr. St. Martin reviewed some of the alternatives that could be considered once the individual
borings are known. He commented that they have a lot of experience and many “tools” to work
with in order to provide the best conditions for each site.
Ms. Culligan acknowledged that this can be complicated and therefore they took a conservative
approach in their modeling. She stated that they would be improving the water situation on the
site. She recognized that Mendota is a factor to consider as well. She stated that this can be
done as you look at all of the other homes that have been constructed in this area, some on slopes
above 18 percent. She stated that the homes in Windy Ridge are larger and closer to the bluff.
She stated that any builder will be building on the facts at that time to ensure the best quality
product. She stated that a significant amount of time and money have been spent on the analysis
to protect this process.
Commissioner Petschel asked the definition of buildable area.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti replied that the building area is typically
defined by the limits of the setbacks.
Commissioner Petschel stated that if a tiny home were placed on a lot would that be considered
buildable area.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti replied that the minimum buildable area is
considered to be 1,000 square feet.
Commissioner Petschel asked if the entire area would need to be under 18 percent slope, or
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whether a portion or majority of that buildable area would need to be under 18 percent slope. He
also asked whether the developer is able to correct the slope to bring it into conformance.
Public Works Director Ryan Ruzek commented that the existing Code does not define that. He
stated that staff could look into the proposed rules from the DNR to determine if there is
guidance that could be used.
Commissioner Petschel commented that some of these areas identified as buildable areas do not
comply with section E without that information it is difficult to evaluate.
Chair Magnuson opened the public hearing.
Bob Bruestle, 370 G Street in Mendota, stated that he has not heard of a two-story basement
before and asked for clarification on a double walk out. He stated that he has encountered a lot
of surface water issues and would like to focus on the issue of storm water and surface water
management. He stated that water runs downhill, and this development promises a 30 to 40
percent reduction in the runoff but commented that the remainder would continue to run
downhill. He also believed that winter conditions should be considered. He stated that he lives
behind what is currently called a pond, which was supposed to capture water for the Culligan
addition. He stated that in the spring melt conditions water was running through his basement
wall. He stated that the discharge that was coming from the pond above his property was
inundating his yard before he plugged it. He stated that he has spent hundreds of hours trying to
improve this issue. He stated that there are no guarantees with the stormwater pond and if it
does release, that water will go downhill and commented that Mendota cannot handle any more
water.
Julie Hunt, 1224 Culligan Lane, stated that in October she and other neighbors submitted
findings of fact and supported the Commission’s recommendation of denial. She stated that
their concern is not with homes being constructed near their homes but with the catastrophic
failure that could occur. She stated that this area is unique with homes above and below that
would be susceptible to failure. She believed that staff should use all regulations available and
not just the existing City Code. She believed that the Commission would want accurate and up
to date information using current research and technological tools when making its decision.
She focused on the research that she has done since the last review by the Commission. She
stated that under the updated DNR rules, this area would not be considered developable and was
identified as unbuildable through that process in 2017. She stated that the 2017 regulations of
the DNR are much more accurate in protecting against slope failure. She stated that the DNR
and Metropolitan Council require municipalities to adopt the new regulations. She stated that
the City has stated that this development aligns with the 2040 Comprehensive Plan. She stated
that section nine of the Comprehensive Plan includes information on bluffs and bluff impact
zones (BIZ), noting that those rules are more restrictive and provided an overview. She asked
why this information has not been mentioned in previous staff presentations. She stated that one
of the goals identified within that plan is to protect PCA’s from private development. She
stated that this property, along with the property of the development her home is located in is
within a PCA. She stated that when overlaying the BIZ data over the proposed development,
only one proposed home location would be outside of the BIZ. She asked why the City did not
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enact a moratorium earlier in order to allow updating of the City Code with the DNR adopted
rules. She reviewed experts that she has spoken with during the past few months to gain
additional information on this topic. She read portions of an article written about Dr. Carrie
Jennings dated August 3, 2019, which provides background on her expertise with bluff failure.
She then provided statements that she received from those different experts related to the
development proposal on this site. She commented that there are other technologies available
that will help to better answer the questions raised about this development and site. She found it
confusing that the DNR identified this area within the BIZ which does not allow clear cutting or
building but recognizes that the City must operate under its existing rules until the new rules are
adopted. She reviewed some of the comments from those experts related to the slope risk
analysis. She stated that the slope stability analysis is based off assumptions and if you use the
wrong assumptions that will result in failure. She provided an example of a slope slide that
occurred in a similar bowl area in Bloomington. She commented that while there were no
homes below the slope in Bloomington that failed, there are homes below this slope in Mendota.
She asked the Commission to consider the DNR studies. She stated that the decision of the
Commission is being asked to be based on the Braun Intertec study that is not yet complete and
does not consider the type of failure she provided data on tonight. She stated that Dr. Jennings
is the lead expert in slopes and understanding failures and she is very concerned about this
proposal. She stated that this area has been selected as one of the five critical areas in the State
for additional study. She asked the Commission to consider section nine of the 2040
Comprehensive Plan and ask that a full geotechnical study be done on this area before making a
decision.
Allen Olstein, 1954 Glenhill Road, commented that the previous speaker identified the large
gaps within the engineering and geotechnical studies presented by the applicant. He stated that
the supplementary report from the applicant stated that the proposed use would not be
detrimental to the community and would ensure that slope stability would be provided through
this design. He stated that the data the applicant collected is inadequate and there is too much
uncertainty in the model used by the applicant. He stated that this development presents a
serious risk to the entire community and urged the Commission to deny the CUP based on the
adverse impacts this would have on the health, safety, and welfare of the community.
Brian Mielke, Mayor of Mendota, asked if Braun Intertec had studied the perspective of
Mendota in its review but it does not appear that Braun came to Mendota to look at the existing
springs and model the potential impact that could have on Mendota. He stated that Mendota
remains concerns and opposed to any development that could lead to failure of the bluff. He
stated that the likelihood of failure would be high, especially with the increase in the 100-year
rain events. He stated that digging and disturbing of underground springs could exacerbate the
issues that currently exist. He asked that Mendota Heights consider a moratorium in order to
enact the new DNR rules.
Steve Helmstetter, 1248 Culligan Road, stated that his home was built 37 years ago on quite a
slope and in his seven years in the home he has experienced issues with his basement because
of pressure from the slope. He stated that he continues to spend money to fight this issue and
noted that his home would be similar to the conditions of three of the proposed homes. He
stated that the soil on his property is very unstable and he is hesitant to remove invasive species
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because it could lead to further instability. He commented that he is unsure how his home was
allowed to be built because of the unstable soils. He stated that within the loop of his
development there is a sewage pumping station and asked if there would be a sewage pumping
system for the three homes on the western edge of the proposed development.
Public Works Director Ryan Ruzek commented that the three lots would be proposed to be
served by individual grinder pump systems, which are privately owned pump lift stations and
would not be City owned.
Steven Douglas, 330 G Street in Mendota, stated that he purchased his home 30 years ago and,
in that time, the underground water level has increased by at least five feet. He stated that the
limestone rock is fractured, and water runs through those areas, which are 40 or 50 feet above
the homes. He stated that he is worried about landslides and has also spent time attempting to
move the water away from his home that flows down the bluff. He asked for details on the
borings and whether those are creating additional holes that will run out to Mendota. He asked
the Commission not to approve this request.
Mark Hunt, 1224 Culligan Lane, encouraged the Commission to continue to press for specific
boring locations. He stated that he would want to see borings from the furthest reach of where
they would intend to build. He expressed a concern related to the retention pond, as if that were
to fail that would have bigger implications.
Kae Jewel, 1948 Glenhill Road, stated that the reality is that the City is operating on old
information and there is new information out there. She stated that the residents asked for a
public hearing to consider a moratorium but that was not approved. She stated that she spent her
career analyzing risk and did not believe that this is a risk the City or its residents should take
on as it cannot be managed or handled. She referenced a recent newspaper article in which
someone put family land into a conservatorship with Dakota County. She encouraged the City
and property owner to explore other options. She asked the Commission to deny this request.
Sandra Krebsbach, 1230 Culligan Lane, commented that this is probably the most complex
application that has come before the City. She stated that she does have experience in the
development of the City during her time on the Commission and as an elected official. She
stated that through previous development this parcel was labeled as an undevelopable outlot and
has been taxed as since. She stated that her home is built on bedrock and they preserved the
large trees on their property in order to be structurally solid. She stated that if this development
is allowed and erodes that slope, it will not just be the top of the slope that erodes, but other
properties as well. She noted that homeowners insurance does not cover this type of damage
and asked the recourse for property owners if this property causes others to fail. She asked the
Commission to take its time and do its due diligence to ensure specific information is provided to
ensure that this property will not cause failure to others.
Mark Culligan stated that he, his sisters, and their parents are the stakeholders for the property.
He stated that he has been impressed with all of the technical information presented. He
provided background on the use of the property over the years his family has owned it, noting
that he has a 60-year perspective on the property. He referenced the river bluff landslide
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that occurred in Bloomington, noting that is not the same type of slope as the subject property.
He stated that the building sites are relatively flat, and they have spent a considerable amount of
funds on engineering and studies. He stated that hydrostatic pressure occurs in many areas,
including his home in Saint Paul. He stated that his family should not be responsible for water
problems in the bowl of Mendota. He stated that this is a natural beautiful woodland property
that people often trespass on and dump their yard waste on. He stated that while people have an
attachment to the property, they are the rightful owners. He stated that their property rights have
not been condemned. By the DNR. He stated that his family are stewards of the land and will
not be clear cutting and have proposed this design in order to minimize the impacts to the land.
He stated that stormwater management removes the water from the natural downhill flow and
would improve the current conditions. He stated that there has never been a single landslide of
any type on this property in the past 50 plus years that he has been involved in the property. He
commented that this is not bluff and is instead a slope. He believed that credit should be given
to the engineering team that has been involved in this project.
Ms. Culligan stated that she believes it would be helpful for some of her team to be able to
provide additional comments following the public comments made.
Mr. Ripp commented that some of the information was perhaps taken out of context. He stated
that there was an assertion that only soil samples were taken and reviewed the steps that were
taken. He stated that it was considered preliminary because those are preliminary borings. He
confirmed that a geotechnical analysis was completed and up to date technology was used. He
stated that there was a question related to how the borings were backfilled and replied that the
borings were backfilled according to the Minnesota Department of Health standards, providing
details on that process which ensures that infiltration will not result from the borings.
Commissioner Corbett asked if all the borings were backfilled or whether it was just the 60-foot
borings that were backfilled.
Mr. Ripp confirmed that all borings more than 15 feet are required to be backfilled and were
backfilled. He confirmed that they studied and analyzed the possibility of rotational failure,
which was mentioned by one of the residents. He stated that he did not see evidence of failures
or movement when walking this site. He commented that the number of trees has most likely
provided the balance to prevent that from occurring on this site. He stated that they feel
comfortable with the results of the deeper borings that were completed in order to investigate
the possibility of rotational failure. He stated that there are springs on this site, but the depths are
well below the area that would be disturbed. He stated that there are sandy soils on the site and
the team is aware of the potential for erosion, which is why they are attempting to minimize the
areas to be disturbed. He reviewed the factors that tend to lead to slope failure and commented
that those would not be factors in this proposed development or on this site.
Commissioner Toth referenced the boring map locations and stated that there is no data on the
borings for the area proposed for home construction.
Mr. Ripp confirmed that to be correct. He stated that they intend to drill borings in those
locations.
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Commissioner Corbett stated that it appears four sites were selected for soil borings and then two
of those were dug deeper.
Mr. Ripp confirmed that to be true. He stated that when the initial slope stability analysis was
done, they came to the realization that the borings were not deep enough.
Commissioner Corbett stated that his attempt was to determine why two sites were listed twice.
Commissioner Toth stated that there was mention that soil erosion will occur when you remove
vegetation. He asked the controls that would be put in place once the vegetation would be
removed during the construction process.
Mr. St. Martin stated that they would have a stormwater pollution prevent plan (SWPPP) that
would identify the steps that would be taken during construction and reviewed some measures
that could be enacted to prevent erosion during construction. He stated that the contractor would
have a licensed SWPPP inspector onsite daily and that entire process would be permitted by the
MPCA.
Commissioner Toth provide an example situation that could occur during construction once
vegetation is removed and a June rain event occurs. He asked if silt fence would hold soils on a
ten percent grade.
Mr. St. Martin reviewed additional measures that could be taken to provide that protection. He
stated that contractors are used to dealing with rain events during construction.
Chair Magnuson referenced the report that was prepared by Barr Engineering and the major
concern related to the location of the stormwater pond. She asked for a response from the
applicant.
Mr. St. Martin stated that they would work with Braun and would likely line the pond with a
clay liner to create a bowl that would keep the water in the pond and would not allow seepage.
Seeing no one further coming forward wishing to speak, Chair Magnuson asked for a motion to
close the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER CORBETT MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TOTH, TO
CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
COMMISSIONER CORBETT MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KATZ, TO
RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF VALLEY VIEW OAK 3RD
ADDITION ALONG WITH A CRITICAL AREA PERMIT AND CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT FOR THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED NW QUADRANT OF
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VICTORIA CURVE AND GLENHILL ROAD, BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF FACT
THAT CONFIRM THE APPLICANT FAILED TO MEET THE BURDEN(S) OF PROOF
OR STANDARDS REQUIRED IN GRANTING SUCH APPROVAL OF THESE
APPLICATIONS, NOTED AS FOLLOWS: THE APPLICANT HAS FAILED TO SHOW
THAT THE BUILDING AREA WOULD BE ON SLOPES LESSER THAN 18 PERCENT.
FURTHER DISCUSSION: COMMISSIONER PETSCHEL COMMENTED THAT HE
WOULD AGREE WITH THE DENIAL. HE STATED THAT HE STILL QUESTIONS THE
BUILDABLE LOT AND WHETHER THAT IS INTENDED FOR THE EXISTING STATE
OR PROPOSED FUTURE STATE. HE STATED THAT ANY LOT COULD BE ALTERED
TO BECOME BUILDABLE WITH ENOUGH FILL AND DID NOT BELIEVE THE
INTENT OF THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE THAT THE SLOPE COULD BE
ALTERED TO MEET THAT SLOPE REQUIREMENT. HE STATED THAT TWO OF THE
FIVE LOTS WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW.
COMMISSIONER CORBETT STATED THAT HE AGREES WITH THAT
INTERPRETATION, THAT THE SLOPE PERCENTAGE REQUIREMENT IS BEFORE
ALTERATION.
COMMISSIONER PETSCHEL STATED THAT HE DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT
ANYTHING PROPOSED IS OVERTLY DANGEROUS. HE STATED THAT WHILE HE
APPRECIATES THE INPUT OF THE RESIDENTS, THESE ARE COMPLICATED TOPICS
FOR EXPERTS AND THE ONLY ENGINEERS PRESENT TONIGHT ARE THOSE
REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
COMMISSIONER CORBETT APPLAUDED THE EFFORT FROM THE APPLICANT AND
THEIR ENGINEERS BUT NOTED THAT HIS ROLE IS TO UPHOLD THE CODE AND HE
STICKS TO THAT POINT THAT THE APPLICATION DOES NOT MEET THE CITY
REQUIREMENTS.
COMMISSIONER KATZ STATED THAT HE HAS CONCERN WITH THE ANALYSIS
THAT WAS DONE RELATED TO ROTATIONAL SLIDE. HE STATED THAT HE DOES
NOT WANT TO DISMISS THE CONCERN AND APPRECIATES THE INPUT FROM THE
ENGINEERING TEAM FROM THE APPLICANT BUT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE TWO
SIDES RECONCILED.
CHAIR MAGNUSON STATED THAT THE COMMISSION WAS ASKED BY STAFF TO
ADDRESS THE PRIVATE ROAD, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED. SHE STATED
THAT AS SHE READS THE CITY CODE, A LOT IS DEFINED AS A LOT THAT ABUTS
A PRIVATE ROAD. SHE STATED THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE A PUBLIC STREET
AND WOULD BE AN EASEMENT. SHE ASKED IF THIS WOULD BE AN
APPROPRIATE CIRCUMSTANCE FOR A PRIVATE ROAD. SHE STATED THAT WHEN
REVIEWING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THE COMMISSION IS TASKED TO
ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SHE NOTED THAT THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES DISCOURAGES FROM INFILL DEVELOPMENT
THAT RELIES ON A PRIVATE STREET OR FLAG LOT DESIGN. SHE STATED THAT
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SHE HAS A HARD TIME RECONCILING THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WITH THE SLOPE PERCENTAGES.
COMMISSIONER TOTH ASKED IF EMERGENCY SERVICES REVIEWED THE
PRIVATE ROAD CONCEPT.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TIM BENETTI REPLIED THAT THE FIRE
MARSHAL REVIEWED THIS AND DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BECAUSE
OF THE THREE HYDRANTS THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED. HE STATED THAT THE
FIRE MARSHAL FELT THAT THE TURNAROUND WOULD BE SUFFICIENT BUT
WANTED TO REVIEW THAT WITH THE FIRE CHIEF TO ENSURE THAT WOULD BE
ENOUGH SPACE.
COMMISSIONER TOTH STATED THAT WITH WINTER CONDITIONS AND SNOW
STORAGE, ALONG WITH VEHICLES THAT COULD BE PARKED ON A ROADWAY,
THAT COULD PRESENT A SITUATION WHERE AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE COULD
NOT TURN AROUND.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TIM BENETTI NOTED THAT STAFF
STATED THAT WITH THE NARROW ROADWAY, STAFF LISTED A CONDITION
THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW PARKING ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
COMMISSIONER FIELD STATED THAT HE AGREES WITH THE COMMENTS OF
CHAIR MAGNUSON AND COMMISSIONER PETSCHEL. HE STATED THAT THERE
ARE SOME ISSUES BUT HE IS NOT CONVINCED THAT THOSE ISSUES COULD NOT
BE RESOLVED AND WOULD BE WILLING TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT
ADDITIONAL TIME TO ATTEMPT TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES.
COMMISSIONER PETSCHEL ASKED IF IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK THE
APPLICANT WHETHER THEY WOULD PREFER A VOTE OR FOR THE MATTER TO
BE TABLED.
MS. CULLIGAN COMMENTED THAT SHE WOULD PREFER A VOTE. SHE STATED
THAT THEY HAVE DONE RESEARCH ON THE BUILDABLE AREA AND BELIEVE
THEY CAN MEET THAT AND ARE THE SAME AS OTHER LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN
ALLOWED TO BUILD.
COMMISSIONER PETSCHEL COMMENTED THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENCES
BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL LOTS AND SUBDIVISION.
MS. CULLIGAN COMMENTED THAT SHE WOULD PREFER THE VOTE.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Chair Magnuson advised the City Council would consider this application at its December 1,
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2020 meeting.
Chair Magnuson briefly recessed the meeting at 9:55 pm.
Chair Magnuson reconvened the meeting at 10:02 pm.
C) PLANNING CASE 2020-24
STEVE NORTON AND KEITH OSTROSKY, 1680 LEXINGTON AVENUE –
LOT SPLIT AND CRITICAL AREA PERMIT
Community Development Director Tim Benetti explained that Mr. Steve Norton, acting on
behalf of the owner Keith Ostrosky, is requesting approval to subdivide the residential property
located at 1680 Lexington Avenue. This subdivision request requires City approval before any
plat or survey can be accepted and recorded by Dakota County. The critical area permit is
required for any subdivision approval of properties situated in the Critical Area Overlay
District.
Hearing notices were published and mailed to all properties within 350-ft. of the site; he
reviewed the input that was received prior to the meeting.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti provided a planning staff report and a
presentation on this planning item to the Commission (which is available for viewing through
the City’s website).
Commissioner Katz commented that when determining the zoning for the Comprehensive Plan,
he believes that this property was unique and wanted to ensure that was resolved.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti confirmed that was reviewed during the
Comprehensive Plan process but the request to change to a medium density residential land use
was denied by the Council and therefore remains as low density residential.
Commissioner Corbett asked if a variance would be needed to allow for a lot split of a flag lot.
He stated that he would also like to see the data related to the slope of the land.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti replied that this would not be a typical lot split,
but the ordinance allows for the split as long as there would be frontage of 100 feet or more on
a public roadway. He stated that both properties would have frontage at or above 100 feet and
therefore would not be considered flag lots. He commented that the shared driveway would be
memorialized in an agreement between the two properties and confirmed that would be a
private agreement and not of the City. He stated that the City does not have anything that
permits or prohibits shared driveways.
Chair Magnuson asked if there is anything in the City Code that would require that access be
provided from the parcel rather than from someone else’s parcel.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti replied that there is no requirement that the
driveway leading to a lot has to go through that frontage. He stated that there are other lots in
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the City that have frontage on one roadway and access provided in another area.
Chair Magnuson stated that this is within the Critical Area and therefore she would want to see
the data related to the slope requirements.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti stated that the surveyors clearly delineated the
new house pads outside of the 40-foot bluff setback.
Commissioner Field asked for details on what the address would be.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti replied that addresses are provided based off
where access is for emergency services purposes.
Steve Norton, applicant, stated that the area proposed to be developed is quite flat and noted
that the building pads would be outside of the 40-foot bluff setback. He provided examples of
shared driveways in Mendota Heights. He referenced the soil boring reports from their
consultant, noting that this site has quite a bit of bedrock and therefore they anticipate that the
building pads would be very stable. He commented that these would be modest size homes and
would not take away from the views in the area. He believed that this application would be the
best solution for everyone, rather than the previously considered medium density residential
use.
Commissioner Field commented that this seems to be an innovative solution.
Chair Magnuson stated that she was curious that bedrock was found at four or five feet and
asked if these would be slab on grade homes.
Mr. Norton replied that they would not have to be slab on grade homes. He explained that they
would be establishing building pads and it would be up to the end user as to the home they
would want to build and noted that user would have to apply for and work within their own
Critical Area Permit.
Chair Magnuson opened the public hearing.
Bruce Westlund, 1700 Lexington Overlook, asked if the 40-foot slope was measured from the
front of 14.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti highlighted the delineation of the bluff and the
40- foot setback.
Mr. Westlund asked the location of holding ponds on the property and whether that would
cause tree removal.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti replied that there are basins identified in two
locations.
Public Works Director Ryan Ruzek commented that in most conditions the basins would be dry
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and would hold water after rain events that would then infiltrate.
Seeing no one further coming forward wishing to speak, Chair Magnuson asked for a motion to
close the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER FIELD MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PETSCHEL, TO
CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Petschel stated that it appears there is only five feet of grade difference across
the site.
Public Works Director Ryan Ruzek stated that house pad two looks to be flat. He stated that
house pad one seems to be right around 18 percent and the driveway appears to be near the ten
percent allowed. He stated that there appears to be areas where retaining walls would be
required but did not believe any variances would be required.
COMMISSIONER FIELD MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PETSCHEL, TO
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE LOT SPLIT FOR 1680 LEXINGTON AVENUE AND
CRITICAL AREA PERMIT BASED ON THE FINDINGS-OF-FACT SUPPORTING SUCH
APPROVAL, CONTINGENT UPON THE SITE NOT EXCEEDING THE 18 PERCENT
SLOPE REQUIREMENT, AND WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. THE OWNER/DEVELOPER SHALL DEDICATE NEW DRAINAGE AND UTILITY
EASEMENTS ALONG THE PERIMETER OF EACH NEW LOT PER THE
APPROVAL OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
2. PARK DEDICATION FEE OF $4,000 WILL BE PAID BEFORE THE SUBDIVISION
IS RECORDED WITH DAKOTA COUNTY.
3. CONNECTION CHARGES FOR SANITARY SEWER AND WATER MAIN SHALL
BE PAID PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.
4. AN INDIVIDUAL (OR JOINT) CRITICAL AREA PERMIT APPLICATION MUST
BE SUBMITTED FOR ANY FUTURE SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON
PARCEL A/PAD 1 AND PARCEL B/PAD 2.
5. THE APPLICANT MUST PREPARE A SHARED DRIVEWAY ACCESS
EASEMENT AGREEMENT IN A FORM APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY,
WHICH MUST BE AGREED TO BY BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS OF EACH NEW
LOT, SIGNED, NOTARIZED, AND RECORDED AGAINST BOTH PROPERTIES
PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.
6. ANY LAND DISTURBANCE ACTIVITIES MUST BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH
THE CITY’S LAND DISTURBANCE GUIDANCE DOCUMENT.
7. ANY NEW GRADING AND CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY WILL BE IN
COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL
REGULATIONS AND CODES, AS WELL AS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
CITY’S LAND DISTURBANCE GUIDANCE DOCUMENT. FULL EROSION AND
SEDIMENTATION MEASURES WILL BE PUT IN PLACE PRIOR TO AND
DURING GRADING AND CONSTRUCTION WORK ACTIVITIES.
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8. ANY AND ALL CONSTRUCTION WORK ON SITE IS LIMITED TO THE HOURS
BETWEEN 7:00 A.M. AND 8:00 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND 9:00
A.M. TO 5:00 P.M. WEEKENDS.
9. ALL DISTURBED AREAS IN AND AROUND THE PROJECT SITE SHALL BE
RESTORED AND HAVE AN ESTABLISHED AND PERMANENT GROUND
COVER IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Chair Magnuson advised the City Council would consider this application at its December 1, 2020
meeting.
Staff Announcements / Updates
Community Development Director Tim Benetti gave the following verbal review:
• The draft calendar was included in the Commission packet and a potential conflict was
identified for the September 2021 meeting.
Chair Magnuson commented that she is not very comfortable sitting in a full room and asked
about the agenda for the December meeting.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti replied that staff is looking to hold that meeting
virtually as there is only one potential permit to consider.
Commissioner Field asked if there would be a way to submit public input.
City Administrator Mark McNeill replied that they have not yet been setup well for live public
input and reviewed the current options.
Commissioner Field stated that he feels that it is important to have interaction between those
providing input and the Commission.
Community Development Director Tim Benetti asked if the Commission would like to move
that meeting date to December 17th. It was the consensus of the Commission to hold the
December meeting on December 17, 2020.
Adjournment
COMMISSIONER CORBETT MOVED, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FIELD, TO
ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 10:41 P.M.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0