1995-05-09 Parks and Rec Comm Agenda Packet (2)CITY Or MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
MAY 9, 1995 - 6:30 P.M.
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1. Call to Order.
3. Approval of April 11, 1994 Pazks and Recreation Commission Minutes.
4. Continued Discussion of Capital Improvements Plan for 1995 - 1999
5. Discussion of Dakota County CIP 1995-1999
6. Discussion of Upcoming Joint Workshop with City Council
7. Updates
* City Council Actions On Ivy Falls Pazk and Bridgeview Shores Trail
* Schedule Trail Stencilling
* Mendakota Concessions
8. Adjourn.
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CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES
APRIL 11, 1995
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Parks and Recreation
Commission was held on Tuesday, April 11, 1995, in the City Hall
Large Conference Room, 1101 Victoria Curve. The meeting was called
to order at 6:30 o'clock P.M. The following members were present:
Norton, Liberacki, Kleinglass, Damberg, Libra, Linnell and Spicer.
Also present were Administrative Assistant Kevin Batchelder and
Parks Project Manager Guy Kullander.
Commissioner Damberg moved to approve the March 14, 1995
minutes.
Commissioner Linnell seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner Damberg stated that she would like the Parks and
Recreation Commission to take a closer LooK.at the issue of
vandalism in the City parks. Commissioner Damberg stated that
some people are afraid to be in Valley Park and that she is
aware that there has been damage going on there as well as
bonfires at night. Commissioner Damberg requested that the
Chief of Police address how we are handling these incidences
in our parks and what can be done about it.
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN
Chair Spicer stated that the Capital Improvements Plan should
be reviewed and updated as the City heads into the 1996 Budget
process. Spicer stated the Commission should begin
discussions of the Capital Improvement Plan including
reviewing the list of 1995 objectives and to consider capital
needs over the long term through the year 1999. Chair Spicer
stated that the largest item in the 1995 list of improvements
was a tennis court at Hagstrom-King Park that had originally
been hoped would be paid for with referendum funds. He stated
now that the referendum funds are committed he inquired if the
Commission would like to pay for this out of the Special Park
Fund. Spicer stated that he has been with the Parks
Commission for many years and that they have been very frugal
with the Special Park Fund over these years. Spicer stated
that it appears that the remaining 1994 items that need to be
constructed and the list of 1995 items total to $60,000+ to be
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each Commissioner to look at 1996 priorities, long term
priorities, any changes in funding policies and any additional
items that are not already on the list.
IVY FALLS PARK OPEN HOIISE
The Commission met with 25 residents of the Ivy Falls Park
neighborhood for approximately 1 1/2 hours. Chair Spicer
introduced the Commission, staff members and Mr. Jim Hagstrom
of Savanna Designs.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder provided a background on
the Ivy Falls Creek project and described how the Parks and
Recreation Commission and City Council had desired to restore
the landscaping and beautify the pond area after construction.
Batchelder stated the Commission had interviewed three
Landscape architectural landscape firms and had chosen Mr.
Hagstrom of Savanna Designs based on their expertise with
native grasses and wildflower plantings. He stated the
Commission had preferred to go with a low maintenance, natural
grass landscaping in this pond area because it was
ecologically sound and would provide a high degree of beauty
to this area. He stated the Commission has met with Mr.
Hagstrom to set the parameters of the design and that Mr.
Hagstrom is here tonight to present his landscape design plan.
Mr. Hagstrom provided a twenty minute presentation including
slides on the grass and plant species that he would be using
in his landscape design. Mr. Hagstrom reviewed the specifics
of the landscape plan with the audience.
For the next hour there was a general discussion regarding the
pond and its beautification. Many residents at the meeting
expressed a concern about the safety of the steep slopes of
the new berm, about the water quality in the pond, and about
the increased capacity for storm water in this area. The
Parks Commission attempted to focus on the beautification plan
with the landscape design, however, the neighborhood expressed
the opinion that their biggest concern is with the engineering
aspects of the storm water pond and the water quality.
The following comments were received during the meeting:
• The walking path shown on top of the berm is a concern
due to the steep slopes down to the pond.
• During storm events this pond has a significant bounce in
water level and there is a concern about how the pond is
going to be kept clean.
• Another resident expressed a safety concern with the
steep embankments.
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BRIDGEVIEW SHORES TRAIL
NEIGHBORHOOD OPEN HOUSE
Chair Spicer
introduced
the Commission and
staff to the
residents in
Ruhlmann, Abu
attendance.
and Florence
In attendance were
Islam and Mr. Norm
Garry and Barb
Linnell,
Administrative Assistant Batchelder provided a background to
the Parks Commission on this issue and stated that City
Council had requested that this matter be referred to the
Parks and Recreation Commission to provide all interested
neighbors an opportunity to have input. He stated that an
item announcing this neighborhood open house had been
published in the Southwest Review and the Sun Current and that
letters had been sent to everybody in the Bridgeview Shores
neighborhood.
Parks Project Manager Kullander described the details of the
trail project that includes a trail along the north side of
Mendota Heights Road from Westview Terrace to Dodd Road.
Kullander stated this trail had been included as part of a
Task Force recommendation for a traffic signal light at the
corner of Mendota Heights Road and Dodd Road.
Mr. Islam stated that he had appeared before the City Council
to oppose the construction of this trail and that he desired
this trail be eliminated from the traffic signal light
project. Mr. Islam stated there would be a significant loss
of privacy from within any room in his house. Mr. Islam
stated that he had a home with all the rooms oriented to the
rear of the house and that his house is parallel to Mendota
Heights Road.
Mr. Ruhlmann stated that in addition to privacy concerns for
both his house and the Islam's house, he felt there is a
safety issue. Mr. Ruhlmann explained that cars approaching
Mendota Heights Road along Westview Terrace have a blind
approach to traffic on Mendota Heights Road. Mr. Ruhlmann
stated that to the east of Westview Terrace is a dip in the
road and because of the curve of Mendota Heights Road it is
difficult to see cars coming from the west along Mendota
Heights Road. Mr. Ruhlmann stated that it is necessary for
cars to creep out past the stop sign in order to see traffic
coming down Mendota Heights Road. Mr. Ruhlmann stated he
feels that a trail would dump pedestrian and bicycle traffic
into the stop sign area where cars must creep forward and that
this is a dangerous safety issue.
The Parks Commission discussed the spacing of the Spruce trees
that run along the rear property line of the Ruhlmann's and
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Mr. Islam stated that he feels this whole project was done in
secrecy and that his property value will be lowered by $25,000
to $40,000. Mr. Islam stated that they will lose all privacy
at their home and that the City would be guiding people,
including children with bikes, into a blind intersection if
the City constructs this trail. Mr. Islam stated why would
anybody want to take a walk on this trail because it is too
noisy with the traffic in the area.
Commissioner Damberg inquired about the necessity of this
trail section if the new middle school opens. Ms. Islam
responded that there are no homes on the other side of Dodd
Road that would need to get to the middle school.
Commissioner Kleinglass stated that he feels the purpose of
this trail is to allow Bridgeview Shores residents to connect
to Dodd Road and to the trail system on the west side of Dodd
Road where there are many trail connections in different
directions. Commissioner Linnell stated that he feels this is
a small portion of trail that makes sense for this
neighborhood.
Mr. Islam stated that the only reason the City was providing
this trail segment was because we are getting the money from
MnDOT.
Mr. Norm Linnell, Bridgeview Shores resident, spoke in favor
of the City building this trail segment. Mr. Linnell stated
that currently children have to cross Mendota Heights Road to
access the trail system. Mr. Linnell stated that he believes
this trail segment would be a real benefit for Bridgeview
Shores children that have to cross Dodd Road at the traffic
light. Mr. Linnell stated that Mendota Heights Road is
getting busier all of the time and cars often travel at a high
speed on this road. Mr. Linnell stated he feels most of the
neighborhood would use Pondhaven to get to Westview Terrace
where there is currently a deadend.
Mr. Ruhlmann stated Westview Terrace is blind to Mendota
Heights Road and this trail would be putting people into this
blind spot. Mr. Linnell stated that the people are already
there using the right-of-way for walking and that the trail
would be safety benefit. Mr. Ruhlmann stated that if you can
use the seventeen feet of grass existing in this area, why do
you need a trail?
Commissioner Liberacki stated that the same situation exists
in his neighborhood where the patios and the rear of homes
back up to an existing trail where it runs along Mendota
Heights Road in the Brentwood neighborhood. Mr. Liberacki
stated that none of these homes have lost value due to the
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Mr. Islam stated that Public Works Director Danielson had told
him that a woman from Bridgeview Shores was on the Task Force
and had wanted this trail segment included so that her child
could walk to Visitation School. Mr. Islam felt that school
children making their way to Visitation School can walk on the
grass. Mr. Norm Linnell stated that bicycles and
rollerbladers are also going in that direction. Mr. Islam
stated that this trail would only be used three to four months
of the year.
Mr. Norm Linnell stated that he feels it is dangerous to ask
children to cross to the south side of Mendota Heights Road to
access the trail system. Mr. Linnell stated he feels this
would be a benefit to the City for two reasons, 1) it does
not cost the City any money, and 2) there are strong safety
reasons to install this trail. Mr. Islam stated that it was
a mistake for the City to ask for the money for this trail
segment without conducting a neighborhood meeting or
contacting the property owners along the trail.
Commissioner Kleinglass inquired if a cross walk could be
painted across Mendota Heights Road at Bridgeview Court,
Parks Project Manager Kullander stated that a cross walk would
create a false impression of a safe cross walk when there is
no traffic control device along Mendota Heights Road.
Kullander stated that studies show cross walks without control
devices creates more accidents.
Ms. Islam stated the Parks Commission should consider building
a trail all the way along Mendota Heights Road so that they
can see how the other neighbors would like having a trail in
their rear yard. Chair Spicer stated that he can understand
the Islam's concerns because this trail is in their backyard
and impacts the use and privacy. Spicer stated that however,
the vast majority of residents in the City are in favor of the
trails. Mr. Islam stated that his whole house orients to the
rear of the property and with a trail in this area there would
be no more privacy. Mr. Islam stated that he will not be able
to use his patio. He stated that he feels strongly that it
will harm the privacy and value of his home. Ms. Islam stated
that a Task Force member had discussed the signal light
project with them on their property and never mentioned the
inclusion of a trail in this project. Ms. Islam stated that
the Task Force never considered the impact of this trail on
their property and never conducted any public hearings.
Chair Spicer thanked the residents for their attendance at
this meeting and stated the Parks and Recreation Commission
would make a recommendation to the City Council regarding this
proposed trail segment.
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Mr. Heaver stated he felt the value of the easement may be
greater than the cash dedication. Chair Spicer stated it
appears the choices are either to accept the cash dedication
proposal or to accept an easement for trail including
construction costs of the trail. Commissioner Liberacki
stated that his understanding of the ordinance is that the
ordinance allows a ten percent land dedication from which the
City Council can decide to allow a cash dedication in lieu of
the required land dedication.
Mr. Heaver inquired if the Clement Street area was on the list
for City street improvement projects. Kullander stated that
the Clement area is not on the list in the immediate future,
however, the Cherry Hills neighborhood is.
Commissioner Linnell moved to recommend a trail easement and
the construction costs of a trail from the end of the cul-de-
sac to Clement Street in lieu of the cash dedication.
Commissioner Liberacki seconded the motion.
AYESs 6
NAYS: 0
ABSTAIN: 1, RLEINGLASS
Commissioner Kleinglass stated that he is not convinced the
City needs the trail.
IVY HILLS PARK
Chair Spicer stated there is little the City can do about the
quality of water entering the storm pond. Parks Project
Manager Kullander suggested that the Watershed Management
Organization would be the appropriate body to host the meeting
requested by the neighborhood to discuss water quality and
storm water issues.
Chair Spicer stated this meeting hosted by the engineering
staff should be a part of the Parks and Recreation Commission
recommendation. Spicer stated that it was his impression that
the neighborhood liked the landscape design plan if it
includes lower bushes around the steep area on the north
facing slope of the berm. Spicer stated these bushes should
serve as a barrier both to the pond and to the concrete
structures.
The Commission agreed that bushes would provide the best
screening in this area. Commissioner Linnell stated that he
feels wetlands plantings should be done along the fringes of
the pond, including cattails. The Commission briefly
discussed engineering solutions to the flow of water into the
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Bridgeview Shores neighborhood is important and he feels the
Parks and Recreation Commission should reaffirm the Task Force
recommendation to include this trail segment in the
construction of the signal light project. Commissioner
Linnell inquired if landscape additions should be included
with this trail construction. Commissioner Kleinglass stated
that he feels the privacy argument is not a powerful argument
and that this home is on the second busiest intersection in
the City of Mendota Heights,
Commissioner Liberacki moved that the Parka and Recreation
Commission recommend that the City Council approve the
construction of this trail segment as part of the Mendota
Heights Road/Dodd Road signal light project.
Commissioner Norton seconded the motion.
The Commission discussed the option of extending the trail
along Mendota Heights Road to Huber Drive to access the future
school site.
Commissioner Libra stated that the corner of Westview Terrace
and Dodd Road should be reviewed for sight line safety issues.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 1, NORTON
ABSTAIN: 1, LINNELL
Commissioner Liberacki moved to recommend that the City
Council direct the Parks and Recreation Commission and staff
to investigate the possibility of extending a trail from
Westview Terrace to Huber Drive. Commissioner Libra inquired
if this investigation should include a trail segment all the
way to Delaware Avenue.
Commissioner Norton seconded the motion.
AYES: 3
NAYS: 3, SPICER, DAMBERG, LIBRA
ABSTAIN: 1, LINNELL
MOTION FAILS
Commissioner Norton stated that the Dakota County Parks and
Recreation Commission had hosted a meeting to discuss trail
connections to Fort Snelling State Park at 4:30 this evening
and this is virtually impossible for a working person to
attend a meeting at this time. Commissioner Norton stated she
feels the topic of this meeting was of primary concern to
Mendota Heights and that when Dakota County schedules a