1992-02-11 Parks and Rec Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PARRS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES
FEBRUARY 11, 1992
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Parks and Recreation
Commission was held on Tuesday, February 11, 1992, in the City Hall
Large Conference Room, 1101 Victoria Curve. The meeting was called
to order at 7:08 o'clock P.M. The following Commission members
were present: Huber, Katz, Hunter, Spicer, Kleinglass.
Commissioner Lundeen arrived late. Commissioner Damberg was
excused. Also present were Parks Project Manager Guy Kullander and
Administrative Assistant Batchelder.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Commissioner Spicer moved to appoint officers for the
1992 Parks and Recreation Commission as follows:
John Huber - Chair
Vicki Katz - Vice Chair
Kevin Batchelder - Secretary
Commissioner Hunter seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Spicer moved approval of the January 14,
1992, Parks and Recreation Commission minutes as
corrected.
Commissioner Kleinglass seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
The correction involved Commissioner Hunter's desire to
let it be known that he was not opposed to a wild flower
planting program.
TENNIS RESERVATION
Commissioner Spicer explained that Bob Eng, Commissioner
of Mend -Eagan tennis, had informed him the Sibley fields
would be used this year for the youth tennis program run
by Mend -Eagan. Commissioner Spicer stated Mend -Eagan
tennis formally withdraws their request to reserve the
Valley Park tennis courts. The Commission discussed the
City's first come, first served policy on reserving
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tennis courts and felt it was appropriate.
VERBAL UPDATES
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated that John
Huber and Mike Lundeen were both reappointed for another
three year term on the Parks and Recreation Commission by
unanimous vote of the City Council at their February 4,
1992 meeting.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated the City had
received a response from Tim Agness, Park Planner for the
City of St. Paul, regarding our letter of concerns about
lighting, traffic, noise and the proximity of single
family neighborhoods to the campground included in the
Lilydale/Harriet Island Regional Park. He stated the
City of St. Paul recognized our concerns and indicated
they would be happy to allow the City of Mendota Heights
to have a representative on the Campground Advisory
Committee at the time of its design.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated the City
Council recently authorized two purchases for the Parks
Department that were included in the 1992 Budget, the
Toro Snowblower and Cushman Truckster.
Parks Project Manager Kullander described the new trail
that would be included with the reconstruction of Mendota
Heights Road from I-35 to Dodd Road as a Municipal State
Road (MSA) Project this summer. He stated that MSA Funds
would pay for 5/8 of the cost of the trail and that it is
a possibility the City Council could decide to pay for
the remaining 3/8 with excess MSA money. Parks Project
Manager Kullander stated the new section of trail would
be on the north side of Mendota Heights Road from Dodd
Road to I-35E along Mendota Heights Road. He stated
Mendota Heights Road would also receive a new portion of
bike trail from Highway 55 to Pilot Knob Road through the
business park. He also explained the new Victoria trail
that would be done as part of the realignment of Victoria
Road this summer. He explained that an eight to ten foot
strip would be cut out of the old Victoria roadway. A
future City project should include some landscaping at
the top and bottom of the trail. He stated this would
give the City a trail from Celia Road to Highway 13.
Parks Project Manager Kullander stated the last link to
be completed would be from Celia to Celia along Victoria
Road at a future date. He stated that Highway 13 would
have a widened shoulder from where last year's
construction ended all the way to Water Street in
Lilydale. He further explained the new trails that would
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be a part of the Mendota Bridge/Highway 55 realignment.
Commissioner Katz inquired if the oak trees would be
coming down as part of the Mendota Bridge Project. Parks
Project Manager Kullander responded that MnDOT will save
as many trees as possible. Commissioner Katz stated the
community should take some action to save these oak
trees.
RENSINGTON PARR
Parks Project Manager Kullander explained the design of
the triangular area that includes the play equipment, the
comfort station, picnic areas, parking lot and bike
trail. He stated that this is a dense usage area and
will not be conducive to quiet passive uses when soccer
games are in progress.
Parks Project Manager stated that Station 19 Architects
were 95 percent completed with the final plans. He
explained the floor plan as revised due to Council input.
Parks Project Manager Kullander stated the Council opted
for the swing down door for a concession window and added
overhangs to the picnic shelters. He stated the City
staff is going to be the general contractor on this
project and will be hiring the subcontractors. He stated
that Requests for Proposals would go out requesting bids
on the project. He estimated this would cut costs on the
project in the neighborhood of five to ten percent.
Parks Project Manager Kullander stated he would draw the
landscape plan and submit this to our City Planner for
review and critique. He stated this process would be
used to come up with an acceptable landscape plan to bid
upon.
Parks Project Manager Kullander inquired about the
barriers behind the soccer nets along I-494. The Parks
and Recreation Commission stated they would like to see
permanent fences and not nets that require more
maintenance. He stated it would cost approximately an
extra $20,000 to sod Kensington Park as opposed to
seeding it and that he could do this as a bid option in
the project. Parks Project Manager Kullander stated with
irrigation both types of grass will take, however sod
would definitely be ready for use in 1993 where with seed
it is unknown about the level of play available in 1993,
The Parks and Recreation Commission directed Kullander to
bid both in the project.
Parks Project Manager Kullander stated he will be working
with NSP, MnDOT and the pipeline company about the types
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of landscaping they would allow in their easement areas.
He stated that he had been presented with a proposal to
install brick pavers in the comfort station area verses
concrete. He stated pavers would cost twice as much as
concrete. The Commission stated they did not want to
bother with brick pavers.
Kullander stated play equipment being installed in
Kensington Parks, would have to be bid out again. The
Commission did not want to any suppliers and directed
staff to review any submittals.
Commissioner Lundeen arrived at 7:40 o'clock P.M.
Chair Huber inquired about the Americans for Disability
Act requirements for the play equipment. Parks Project
Manager Kullander responded the play equipment is being
designed to meet the requirements and would have "like"
equipment available for persons with disabilities.
Kullander mentioned that vending machine operators had
shown an interest in installing their machines in this
park and that they were satisfied with the design of the
building and its setup for vending machines.
Kullander stated the final plans would be ready for
review by the Parks and Recreation Commission at their
March meeting where upon it would go to the City Council
for their approval. He stated the bidding process would
occur in March and April with a May or June construction
date depending on when Centex completes the rough
grading.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder explained the
inventory of park services offered by three neighboring
Cities, the Community Education Department, Mend -Eagan
Association and the Dodge Nature Center that had been
prepared for the Parks and Recreation Commission's
review. Batchelder stated it was the intent of the
inventory to survey the recreation service universe and
enable the City to discover where gaps in service for
recreation programming exist. He stated the City can
then conduct a needs analysis to determine what area of
recreation programming the City may wish to provide. He
stated the City could then begin to examine what types of
costs would be involved with that level of recreation
programming and begin to budget if any level of service
is desired. Administrative Assistant Batchelder thanked
Maria Karels, clerk/receptionist, for all of the data
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compiling and preparation of the inventory that was
provided for this evening's meeting.
Commissioner Katz stated that the lack of recreation
programming and services in Mendota Heights is
embarrassing, however residents can participate in
surrounding communities by paying a non-resident fee and
they are not excluded from those programs. Commissioner
Katz stated if you add in the Community Education, the
Dodge Nature Center and other local programs, the
community does have some level of service.
Chair Huber stated that this is an immense amount of data
and where to get started was a good question. He stated
he feels that Mendota Heights should sponsor a special
event, like a volleyball day, and put some effort into a
single day activity in order to get an idea what the
reaction from the community is. He stated an example
could be a 5k walk on Valley trail.
Commissioner Spicer stated the point was it would take a
part time staff person to put together the special event
that Chair Huber had mentioned. He stated the City needs
a part time staff person for recreation to do the
scheduling, event planning and coordination. He stated
the City has put forth a major effort to build
recreational facilities and that it is now time to
include at least a part time person in the budget to
implement recreation services. Administrative Assistant
Batchelder stated that consolidation with and cooperation
with another municipality is another possible approach.
Commissioner Katz stated the City of Mendota Heights
should be providing recreation services for itself.
Commissioner Spicer stated the City should have our own
part time recreation coordinator.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder explained he had
attempted to have the Parks and Recreation Commission
define the recreation programs they would desire to get
into, in order that he can analyze the cost and budget
impacts and staffing levels necessary to begin scheduling
and administering leagues and recreation programs in
Mendota Heights as part of the 1993 Budget process.
Chair Huber inquired if there was presently someone on
staff who could step into more hours in order to do
recreation programming. Administrative Assistant
Batchelder responded it depends on what level of service
the City desires to get into for recreation programming.
He stated to continue to add duties to current employees
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workloads would not attain a very high level of service
or efficiency for recreation programming.
Commissioner Katz stated a part time person for
recreation would be appropriate for the City in order to
coordinate recreation programs and to make available
information to residents desiring to know about
recreation opportunities. Commissioner Katz stated she
thought Chair Huber's idea of a big single event was a
good idea and informing the public about recreation
resources is a big part of what the City needs to begin
doing. Commissioner Katz expressed concern over the tax
impact of someday having a large Recreation Department,
Commissioner Spicer stated what is needed is a permanent
part time staff person with Park and Recreation
Commission direction to plan and coordinate programs.
Commissioner Spicer stated the other option would be to
carve out some time from someone who is on City staff.
Commissioner Kleinglass inquired if there would be
interest in hiring a graduate student to help plan the
service levels and recreation programs needed by the
City. Commissioner Kleinglass stated that currently
there are no passive recreation activities sponsored by
the City, only athletic programs. Commissioner
Kleinglass felt this was a real need in the City of
Mendota Heights.
Commissioner Lundeen stated he felt it was important if
the City hired a part time person that that person be a
permanent employee, in order they be committed into the
plan that they would be developing. He stated it would
not be helpful for the City to get someone in on a
temporary basis who would not be part of implementing a
recreation plan. Commissioner Lundeen stated he felt a
single event may help show the demand for recreation in
Mendota Heights. Commissioner Lundeen stated if the City
were to begin with a part time permanent recreation
coordinator, there is a possibility that the recreation
program would continue to grow. He stated the community
may be better off with a recreation program that evolves
and expands.
Chair Huber summarized that the Parks and Recreation
Commission would like to see a permanent part time staff
person to schedule and coordinate athletic and non-
athletic events including possibly "family days" and
single day events. He directed staff to prepare a rough
job description for a permanent part time person and to
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figure out the costs and staff time involved in beginning
a recreation coordination program. The Parks and
Recreation Commission desired to see this permanent part
time recreation coordinator included in the 1993 Budget
process.
CONCESSION STAND
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated the City
Council had desired to have a concession stand policy
that allows access to community, civic and recreation
groups as opposed to a single contracted vendor. He
stated that instead of a contract with a single vendor it
would be necessary for the City to have a policy
regulating the reservation and use of the concession
stands both at Mendakota and Kensington. He stated the
policy would have to include provisions for worker's
compensation insurance and general liability insurance.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder asked the Commission
if they desired to allow alcohol (3.2 beer) to be sold at
the concession stand. The Commission was of a consensus
that no alcohol should be served from the City
concessions. The Commission indicated that a rent should
be charged and that vending machine operators should pay
a percentage to the City. The Commission stated that any
revenues due to recreation activities should be
considered expenses recovered to pay for recreation
activities in the General Fund, The Commission stated
they desire to see a deposit or bonding in order to make
users of the concession stand accountable.
In response, the Commission stated the approval process
for users of the concession stand should be done by City
staff based on criteria that protects the City for
damages, risk management and has revenue provisions.
SOFTBALL FIELD RESERVATIONS
Administrative Assistant
neighborhood parks softball
a first come, first served
Batchelder stated the
fields are currently used on
basis except for Mend -Eagan
reservations for little league. Typically these fields
are not reserved but when they are reserved they are
usually on an as requested basis without a fee. The
Commission concurred that this approach should continue
with the neighborhood parks. The Commission discussed
fees for non-residents using the neighborhood parks
fields and felt that a fee for non-residents was
appropriate. The Commission also felt it was appropriate
a fee should be charged when the City park crews get
requests for moving picnic tables.
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The Commission felt that rental fees were necessary for
the adult standard softball fields which include Civic
Center Park and Mendakota Park. The Commission felt a
priority system should be established designating
resident use first. The Commission felt a sign up date
would be necessary for Mend -Eagan, for the men's league,
for kittenball and for any others who desire to reserve
or use these fields. The Commission felt anybody
desiring to hold a tournament at Mendakota Complex should
seek Park Board approval of the request.
WILDFLOWERS ALONG TRAIL WAYS
Administrative Assistant Batchelder responded to last
month's Commission request that it might be possible to
find $2,000 in the Park Budget to attempt a pilot project
for wildflowers along the trail ways. The Commission
directed staff to contact professionals and seek ideas on
what could be purchased for $2,000 and report back to the
Parks and Recreation Commission.
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There being no further business, the Parks and Recreation
Commission adjourned their meeting at 8:55 o'clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kevin Batchelder
Administrative Assistant