1995-06-13 Parks and Rec Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES
JUNE 13, 1995
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Parks and Recreation Commission
was held on Tuesday, June 13, 1995, in the City Hall Large Conference Room,
1101 Victoria Curve. The meeting was called to order at 6:30 o'clock P.M. The
following members were present: Spicer, Kleinglass, Libra, Damberg, Liberacki,
Norton and Linnell. Also present were Administrative Assistant Kevin Batchelder
and Parks Project Manager Guy Kullander. Guests were Steve Shimek, Volunteer
Horticulturalist, Mr. and Mrs. Mike Johnson and Ms. Susan Linnell.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Damberg moved approval of the May 9, 1995 minutes.
Commissioner Kleinglass seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
DISCUSSION OF PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS
ON PUBLIC PARK LAND
Administrative Assistant Kevin Batchelder stated that the Parks and
Recreation Commission had asked staff to investigate private improvements
consisting of trail construction and removal of vegetation on City property
leading to the pond at the corner of Marie Avenue and Lexington Avenue.
Batchelder stated that Parks Project Manager Kullander had looked at the
plat maps and determined that the trail is approximately 80' to 100' into the
park land which is controlled by the City. He stated that the Code
Enforcement Office had sent a notice to the homeowner, Mr. Mike Johnson,
of 1085 Bwana Court, informing him that the path was on public property
and was possibly in violation of the Wetlands Ordinance. Mr. Johnson's
response to the letter from the Code Enforcement Office had been to
request an appearance on the Parks and Recreation Commission agenda to
discuss this situation.
Batchelder stated there
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are two issues involved in
the location of this
private
trail. He stated that the
trail encroaches onto City
property, which is
an
area of open space which was dedicated to the City to satisfy the Park
Dedication requirement for the subdivision of this neighborhood. Batchelder
stated that the Parks Commission should consider whether or not to
recommend that this private use on public open space be allowed to
continue. Batchelder stated that the second issue was a Wetlands
Ordinance issue that was not intended for the Parks Commission but was a
Planning Commission consideration.
Mr. Johnson stated that he had put this path in five years ago after a visit
by the City's inspector who had informed him to keep this area in a natural
state. Mr. Johnson stated that the wood chip path is as natural of a
material as possible. Johnson submitted pictures from his property and
from across the pond demonstrating where the wood chip path accessed
the pond. Johnson stated this trail was never noticed until new wood chips
were put in place this summer. He stated that he keeps 150 pounds of feed
at all times for the ducks and geese on this pond and that this is the first
year that there have been both ducks and geese on this pond.
Mr. Johnson complained about the City dredging project on the pond and
stated that it hurt the wildlife in that area. Johnson stated that the trail is
for his children and that all of the neighborhood children are attracted to the
pond to feed the ducks and geese.
Ms. Susan Linnell, of Marie Avenue, stated that she was highly upset that
the trees were cut down by the crews who did the dredging of this pond.
Ms. Linnell stated that the City attempts to build on every inch of property
in the City and that the cutting down of the trees in this area was a tragic
occurrence.
Commissioner Linnell arrived at 6:40 o°clock P.M.
Ms. Linnell stated that she lives across Marie Avenue from the pond and
that she feels that what the City did to the trees in this area, for the
dredging of the pond, is worse than any wood chip path constructed by a
neighbor.
Mrs. Johnson stated that what this pond needs is to trim all of the
vegetation around the pond as it is overgrown.
Chair Spicer arrived at 6:45 o'clock P.M.
Mrs. Johnson
P)
stated that
it
was her understanding
that
at one time this
property was
considered
an
outlot by the City but
now
it is considered
wetlands property. Mr. Johnson stated that it is his desire to keep this area
wild and that he has planted many wildflowers and other vegetation in this
area. Mr. Johnson stated that he is scared that a child could approach the
pond in the area of mud left behind by the City crews and that this is more
of a dangerous situation than his path. Johnson stated that he is irritated
that the path has been there for five years and that only now when he has
added new wood chips has the City contacted him to say that this path is
not allowed.
Commissioner Norton stated that she raised this issue at the last Parks and
Recreation Commission meeting due to her concern that private
improvements had been made on City property. Mr. Johnson stated that he
did not realize it was City property.
Commissioner Damberg inquired if it was correct that Mr. Johnson had
stated a City inspector had approved this wood chip path. Mr. Johnson
stated that Public Works Director Jim Danielson had visited his rear yard at
the time he was removing vegetation to construct this trail. Johnson stated
the inspector had informed him that it was necessary to keep this area
natural. Mr. Johnson stated that he felt wood chips were the most natural
pathway material.
Chair Spicer stated that what is at issue here is really a legal question
regarding wetlands and wetlands permit. Spicer stated it that is the
Planning Commission's prerogative and requires an application for a
Wetlands Permit. Mr. Johnson inquired what is it that the City wants him to
do.
Chair Spicer inquired of the Parks and Recreation Commission what they
wanted to do about this issue. Spicer stated there are a lot of alternatives
for recommendations but he believes there should be two issues that are
addressed. Chair Spicer stated the first issue is the use of park or open
space property, controlled by the City, for use as a private pathway. Spicer
stated the second issue is a Wetlands Permit issue and is the Planning
Commission's prerogative. Commissioner Norton stated she feels there is
another issue, that being a liability issue involved in neighborhood children
using this path down to a pond on City property. Chair Spicer stated that
this may be an attractive nuisance to the area with the children feeding the
ducks.
Mr. Johnson complained about the dredging of the pond and stated that this
project had killed many turtles in this area.
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Commissioner Kleinglass inquired of the other Commissioners why is the
City beating people up over a little trail that goes down to a pond. The
Commission inquired of the Engineering staff on what the progress of the
dredging project was. Guy Kullander responded that the Engineering
Department had been directed by the City Council to clean this pond out
and dredge it. Kullander stated that this project was completed in the
winter when the pond was frozen and that the dirt is either hauled away or
is reshaped. Kullander stated the City is waiting for the ice, that was
scraped up in the dirt pile, to melt and for the dirt to dry out before final
grading can be completed later this summer. Kullander stated the City will
seed in this area and that it was hoped that the natural vegetation around
the pond will regenerate and eventually grow back.
Ms. Susan Linnell stated that Jim Danielson told her that new trees would
be replanted in this area. Commissioner Stan Linnell stated he feels that
trees can be replanted in this area, however, dredging was done to improve
the water quality of the pond and that it should be successful and that
when revegetation occurs this pond will be in better shape.
Mrs. Johnson stated that she feels that it is a tragedy that the City had
ripped up the pond and that all of the dirt has settled back into the pond
that was dredged out. Mr. Johnson concurred and stated that he has video
taped everything that has occurred at this pond.
Commissioner Damberg moved that the Parks and Recreation Commission
recommend that the path can be maintained in place until such time as a
Wetlands Permit can be sought and obtained.
Commissioner Liberacki seconded the motion.
Commissioner Linnell stated that he is concerned about the precedent that
this might set and the fact that everyone living on a pond, or next to a park,
might want to do something similar. Mr. Johnson stated he has had to feed
the ducks to keep them alive in this area due to the City°s dredging project.
Or. Johnson stated that he spends $20.00 every Sunday on duck feed.
Commissioner Linnell stated that it is possible to access this pond and feed
the ducks without a five foot wood chip path that requires removal of
vegetation in a wetlands area. Commissioner Damberg stated she feels the
City is getting very persnickety and was not following their own rules in
cutting down trees around the ponds. Damberg stated that she is noticing
that other people are trying to make improvements on public property and
mentioned that residents in her neighborhood are attempting to install
wildflowers on some City park open space. Commissioner Damberg
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inquired if the City was going to be an obstructionist in this improvement
process.
Mr. Johnson stated that he could have had 300 people attend this meeting
to support him and stated that he cleans up trash around this pond every
summer.
Chair Spicer stated that there is a motion on the table as it relates to the
Parks Commission duties regarding a private path on City park property.
Commissioner Libra inquired if any fill had occurred in this area other than
the placement of wood chips.
Commissioner Norton stated that she is also upset about the dredging, but,
it will be restored after final grading has been done on this project.
Commissioner Norton stated that dredging is not the issue before the Parks
and Recreation Commission but that the path is the issue the Commission
should be addressing. Norton stated that in her opinion, the path is not a
natural state for the wetlands area and that it should not be on public
property.
Commissioner Libra stated the fifteen feet around City streets is boulevard,
however, that is being maintained and mowed by all of the property owners
whose front yards go out to the City streets. Commissioner Linnell stated
that is a right-of-way vs. an ownership issue. Libra stated that wild natural
growth around a pond area does not necessarily look more beautiful than
landscaping improvements that could be made by homeowners. Libra
stated that Copperfield has restrictions around the pond and that they may
prove detrimental as the natural growth takes over and restricts everybody's
ability to view the pond or access the pond.
Batchelder stated that the City°s Wetlands Ordinance does not prohibit
people from doing landscape projects around wetlands areas, it only
requires that they seek a permit in order to do so.
Chair Spicer called the vote and asked that the motion be reread.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated that Commission Damberg had
moved that the path can be maintained until such time as the Wetlands
Permit can be sought and obtained. Commissioner Liberacki had seconded
the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 2, NORTON, LINNELL
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The Commission directed the applicant to file an application within seven
days for a Wetlands Permit. The Commission stated that if no permit is
issued for this pathway then it should be returned to its natural state.
Commissioner Damberg stated that she feels this park area should be
improved in the manner of Ivy Falls Park and that water quality issues
should addressed by the Engineering staff.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder inquired of the Commission if this
recommendation means that they are consenting to allow a private path on
City park land. The Commission was of the consensus that their
recommendation did not mean that the path could be on public property
only that nothing should be enforced by the Code Enforcement Office until
such time that a Wetlands Permit can be applied for and that the Wetlands
Permit process is completed.
Commissioner Damberg inquired of the Engineering Department as to the
status of the dredging project is. Parks Project Manager Kullander stated
that City Council had directed that this pond to be dredged because of
requests from residents in the area. Kullander stated that no landscaping
pIan had been included in this project because the natural vegetation in this
area will come back following final grading. Kullander stated that the storm
water utility fund paid for the dredging project and that City Council would
have to approve any additional funds for tree plantings. Kullander stated
that this area is going to be regraded as soon as the dirt is dried out and
following regrading, it will be seeded.
Mr. Johnson inquired how much the dredging project cost. Kullander stated
that the dredging project cost 510,000 and was paid for by the Storm
Water Utility Fund.
Chair Spicer stated that staff had informed the Commission all along, since
January, that it would be June or July before final grading would occur.
Commissioner Linnell moved to recommend that the City budget landscape
restoration for this pond in the amount of 53,000 for additional tree
plantings.
Commissioner Damberg seconded the motion.
Mrs. Johnson stated that it would be nice to include benches along the trail.
Chair Spicer stated that if the City does do benches in this area, the stones
from Acacia Cemetery should be used for this purpose. Commissioner
Liberacki inquired if funding for this type of thing would come from the
City's Park Budget or from the Public Works Budget because it was their
storm water project that necessitated the need for this. Commissioner
Linnell stated that his motion intended that any funding for landscape
restoration come from the Storm Water Utility Fund.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
INTRODUCTION OF
VOLUNTEER HORTICULTURALIST
Chair Spicer introduced Mr. Steven Shimek, of Mendota Heights, who had
recently been appointed by the City Council as the City's Volunteer
Horticulturalist. Mr. Shimek described his involvement regarding tree
inspection and certified landscapers at the time the trees were installed at
Mendakota Park. Following this, Mr. Shimek offered his services to the City
Council who had accepted him as a Volunteer Horticulturalist. Mr. Shimek
stated that he has worked with City staff on providing better tree
specifications for our Boulevard Tree Planting Program and other projects
that the City is involved in that require tree installation. Shimek stated that
he is a Horticultural Consultant and works for the State of Minnesota as a
Forester. Mr. Shimek stated that he is a member of the State Shade Tree
Advisory Commission and is involved with of the Tree City USA program.
Mr. Shimek stated that he had received twelve or thirteen calls since the
growing season has begun and that he is concerned that the City is using
him to do individual tree inspections for homeowners. Mr. Shimek stated he
was under the impression that his volunteer horticultural position was to
help the City with tree management issues and policies and that if
homeowners need tree inspections that there are referral businesses that
can do that for them.
Mr. Shimek discussed how he can help the Parks and Recreation
Commission by providing assistance on project bidding and grant money
that may be available on a cost share basis for future park projects.
Commissioner Liberacki stated he feels this new position is a valuable
resource to help the City to deal with forestry issues and policies, however,
he agrees with Mr. Shimek that we should not be wasting his time with
individual tree forestry advice. Mr. Liberacki stated that he feels that the
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volunteer horticulturalist will burn himself out if he was to get involved with
every resident in the City who wants a tree looked at.
The Commission discussed having Mr. Shimek review the Draft Tree
Preservation Ordinance and directed staff to take a second look at the
referral policies for referring phone calls to Mr. Shimek.
Commissioner Liberacki stated he had reviewed the draft Tree Preservation
Ordinance and that he felt it was burdensome for individual homeowners.
Liberacki also stated that City Council should not be involved in every tree
permit approval.
VANDALISM IN THE PARKS
The Parks and Recreation Commission discussed vandalism in the parks and
stated they would like the Police Department to prepare information, for
their review, regarding the type and frequency of vandalism incidences, the
dollar costs of vandalism in the parks, what possible public education steps
could be taken and report to the Parks and Recreation Commission about
safety in the park, how the parks are patrolled and any other
recommendations on further actions or improvements that can make the
parks safer.
Commissioner Damberg stated that she had attended a seminar where she
overheard homeowners who are adjacent to Valley Park express their fears
about the types of nighttime activities that are going on in the park with
bonfires and drinking activities. Chair Spicer stated that the judges in his
experience always order full restitution when the police have been able to
catch vandals. Spicer stated new State laws require parents to be liable for
criminal actions of their children up to $1,000n
Commissioner Libra stated that the Kensington Park drinking fountain had
been smashed.
VERBAL UPDATES
Administrative Assistant Batchelder provided the Commission an update on
the discussion of baseball and softball use at Mendakota Park. He stated
the City Council invited any interested Parks Commissioner to attend their
meeting on June 20th when physical improvements to Mendakota Park
would be considered in order to address the issue of foul balls.
Batchelder stated that the City Council had also directed staff to begin
working with the Mendota Heights Athletic Association and the softball
groups to discuss possible baseball use at Mendakota Park and whether the
reservation system could be adjusted to allow Mendota Heights youth to
play baseball at these fields. Chair Spicer stated that he has had phone
calls from Mendota Heights Athletic Association representatives about this
issue and that he feels if play is to be expanded at Mendakota Park, perhaps
the City should look into installing lights at the park in order to extend the
use of those fields.
Commissioner Norton was excused at 8:00 o'clock P.M.
The Parks and Recreation Commission was of the consensus to schedule
trail stenciling for Sunday, June 25th at 10:00 A.M. and directed staff to
provide stencils and paint. Commissioner Liberacki volunteered his little red
wagon to carry the paint and supplies as the Parks Commission walks the
trails and stencils the distance markers.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated that the bids are being prepared
for Ivy Hills Park and North Kensington Park. He described the changes in
the plan to the Ivy Hills Park Landscape Plan by Mr. Hagstrom at the request
of City Council.
Parks Project Manager Kullander stated that City Council had approved
bidding out the stone work for these two parks separate from the landscape
improvements. Batchelder stated that City Council had forwarded the Parks
and Recreation Commission comments on the Dakota County Capital
Improvements Plan to Dakota County. Kullander stated that City Council
has approved a tennis court resurfacing bid including the patching and
sealing of other courts. Kullander stated that Ivy Hills Park and the
Mendakota Park basketball courts would receive resurfacing this year.
Kullander stated the plan was to resurface Valley Park next year, as per the
Capital Improvements Plan.
Commissioner Linnell stated that he is concerned that the adjustments made
to the Ivy Hills Park Landscape Plan included too many trees and that this
has the potential of harming the wildflower and prairie plantings. Kullander
stated that the trees could be put into the bid as add alternates and City
Council can determine whether these should be installed at the time bids are
received.
Commissioner
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Linnell
stated that
the Community Education Department has
contacted him
about
their desire
to have a member of the City's Parks and
Recreation Commission serve on the Community Education Advisory
Council. Linnell stated that there is an opening for a Mendota Heights
representative and he distributed the information from that request by the
Community Education Department,
Commissioner Liberacki stated that he had been asked by the School District
to serve on a committee that is planning for the new middle school at the
Friendly Hills site. Liberacki stated that this may be too much of a time
commitment for him and he inquired of the Commission if it would be
appropriate for him to serve as a liaison on any kind of planning committee
for a new middle school. The Commission agreed that this was appropriate.
The Commission stated the City should be involved in any discussions or
any planning for the new middle school site. The Commission discussed
tennis courts and gym space at the new middle school.
Commissioner Liberacki informed City staff that Hagstrom-King Park had a
silt fence still in place and that there is a drainage problem at a culvert
outlet at the pond at Hagstrom-King Park.
DISCUSSION OF CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENTS PLAN
The Parks and Recreation Commission continued the CIP discussion until
their July meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the Parks and Recreation Commission
adjourned its meeting at 8:30 o°clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kevin Batchelder
Administrative Assistant