1994-10-11 Parks and Rec Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAROTA COUNTY, MINNESOTI
PARRS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES
OCTOBER 11, 1994
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Parks and Recreation
Commission was held on Tuesday, October 11, 1994, in the City Hall
Large Conference Room, 1101 Victoria Curve. The meeting was called
to order at 6:35 o'clock P.M. The following members were present
Kleinglass, Libra, Norton and Spicer. Commissioners Damberg and
Linnell were excused. Also present were Administrative Assistant
Kevin Batchelder and Parks Project Manager Guy Kullander.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Norton moved to approve the August 9, 1994
minutes.
Commissioner Kleinglass seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
RESIGNATION OF VICRI RATZ
Vice Chair Spicer announced that the City has received a
resignation letter from Vicki Katz, Chair of the Parks and
Recreation Commission. Spicer stated Ms. Katz has accepted a
job at a non-profit organization whose board meetings also
occur on the same Tuesday evenings as the Parks Commission.
Spicer stated that Ms. Katz has stated she will no longer be
able to devote her time to the Commission. Spicer stated the
Commission will miss Vicki and that he has personally enjoyed
all of the years he has worked together with her on the
Commission.
REQUEST TO FLOOD
PARR PLACE POND
Mr. John Tuohy, a resident of Park Place, stated he is
appearing on behalf of his wife, Jean, who is a board member
for the Park Place Homeowner's Association. Mr. Tuohy stated
he has had the opportunity to read the staff memo and the
difficulties that present themselves for City involvement in
the flooding of the Park Place pond. Mr. Tuohy stated
residents in the neighborhood shovel and clear the ice on the
pond for use by neighborhood children and adults. He stated
that by mid season, the ice is in pretty poor shape and the
Association had discussed this matter and was wondering if
they could get the Public Works crews to help flood this rink
once or twice a year just to touch up the ice. Mr. Tuohy
stated he understands other neighborhoods have asked for this
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and have been denied. He stated his neighborhood is not
asking for special treatment but was just exploring the
possibility of providing a little better ice on their
neighborhood pond.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder explained the park crew is
reluctant to take on this additional work due to their
concerns about their ability in providing staff time and
budgetary resources. Batchelder stated the park crews need
additional help to complete the flooding and maintenance of
the existing ice rinks and hockey rinks. He stated that
seasonal employees and volunteers from Mendota Heights
Athletic Association assist the park crews in maintaining the
City rinks. Batchelder also stated there is some concern
about using the fire hydrant across the street from the Park
Place pond because its main purpose is for fire emergencies
and there is a chance that if it is not operated correctly, it
could become frozen and unavailable for fire emergencies.
Vice Chair Spicer stated that for many years Mendota Heights
Athletic Association has provided volunteers to take care of
the ice flooding in the parks. Spicer stated the City hires
additional park helpers to mow grass and take care of the
parks in the summer but that these employees are laid off in
the winter and that there is a really small park crew
available for winter time park maintenance. Spicer stated
that City staff could talk to Parks Leadperson Terry Blum to
discuss whether it is possible to do this on a once or twice
a winter basis.
Mr. Tuohy stated that it is only possible to skate on the Park
Place pond if the pond freezes before there is a snowfall. He
stated if there is a large snowfall prior to the freezing of
the ice, the ice does not seem to work very well all winter.
The Commission discussed other skating opportunities in the
area and discussed the potential enlargement of the free
skating area at Wentworth Park. Batchelder stated that in
1995 the Capital Improvement Plan intended to switch the
larger warming house from Ivy Falls Park to Wentworth Park and
at that time we could look at also enlarging the free skating
area at Wentworth Park.
Spicer stated that the Parks Commission cannot authorize this
additional time on behalf of the park crews to maintain the
Park Place pond, however he stated that maybe Parks Leadperson
Blum can provide some advice to the homeowners about improving
the ice in this area. The Commission directed staff to talk
to the parks department and determine if some assistance can
be provided and to contact the homeowner's association.
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IVY PARR LANDSCAPE PLAN
Vice Chair Spicer stated he understood that the landscape plan
that the Parks Commission had discussed with the Engineering
Department last year did not work very well and that more
beautification is needed in Ivy Hills Park. Parks Project
Manager Kullander stated the City had received many complaints
about the lack of landscaping in the pond area and that it is
pretty bare in this area. Kullander stated the contractor had
mixed grass seed with the wild flower seed when seeding the
sloped areas along the road and the berm. Kullander stated
this is a large budget project and that requesting additional
funding to provide adequate landscaping in the park is
something the Parks Commission should consider.
Vice Chair Spicer inquired if $15,000 to $20,000, as a
guideline, with the plan done by City staff would be a
responsible approach to addressing the landscape issue in Ivy
Hills Park. The Parks Commission discussed appropriate
funding amounts to provide adequate landscaping in this park.
Kullander stated if the Parks Commission desired this be done
by a landscape consultant, it would cost approximately $2,500
to $5,000 for design services.
Commissioner Libra recommended that City Council authorize
money from the Ivy Falls Storm Project to develop a landscape
plan either by staff or an outside consultant, and then to
implement the plan in the Spring of 1995 with a not to exceed
total cost of $20,000.
Commissioner Norton seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
The Parks Commission discussed the types of amenities they
would like included in the Ivy Hills Park landscape plan. The
Commission discussed providing planters, either made out of
rock or limestone, paved trails, tree plantings and
wildflowers, and cattails and marsh grasses for the wetlands.
The Commission stated a firm that specializes in wildflower
plantings should be used to establish those areas designated
on the plan for low maintenance natural wildflower or prairie
grass areas.
WATER RESOURCES EDUCATION PLAN
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated he had combined two
issues into one agenda item. He stated the Parks Commission
has discussed pond preservation at past meetings and had been
kept up-to-date on Dakota County's water resources education
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plan. He stated this plan could be used by local communities
to educate the public about water quality and water
preservation efforts. He stated the other issue had been
Commissioner Norton° s inquiry at the August meeting if the
Parks Commission could discuss the use of chemical fertilizers
on City owned grass by our park crews.
Commissioner Norton stated the City should take the lead in
practicing environmentally friendly approaches to landscape
maintenance if we are going to be educating the public on
sensible urban lawn care. Commissioner Norton felt that staff
should explore ideas about using more natural area and native
grasses that are low maintenance that do not require
fertilizer. Norton stated the City should take the lead in
providing attractive alternative landscaping that requires low
maintenance.
Parks Project Manager Kullander stated the additional Ivy Park
landscape improvements be planned in this fashion with the
wildflower plantings and the fringe areas around the pond can
be addressed in this fashion. He stated this could be done
instead of having totally mowed grass area it could be planted
in native vegetation in areas not used for recreational uses.
Kullander stated efforts could be made in educating the Public
Works and Parks Department workers on wildflowers and more
natural species as opposed to the training they receive in
turf management. Commissioner Norton stated the City of Edina
was recently covered in the Star Tribune for their efforts in
environmentally friendly lawn maintenance practices.
Kullander stated MnDOT has been experimenting with wildflower
and different grasses, such as salt tolerant grasses, and that
they have established specs that contractors are becoming
familiar with and that the City can bid out for wildflower and
other grass type uses. The Commission requested that staff
look into this further and that they should stay on top of
this issue and bring it back to a future Park Commission
meeting. The Commission directed staff to analyze the use of
fertilizer on City property, analyze where fertilizer is not
needed , analyze where "zero phosphorus" is appropriate and if
it is possible to monitor fertilizer levels through soil
testing and explore the possibilities of more natural areas.
Commissioner Libra stated that the Stenciling Program should
move forward for protecting the ponds and storm water areas.
The Parks Commission discussed volunteering their time to
participate in stenciling and asked staff to bring this back
at a mid winter meeting.
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Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated the National Park
Service is considering the establishment of grants and grant
programs for the Mississippi National River and Recreation
Area (MNRRA). Batchelder stated the National Park Service
desires to identify the range and magnitude of possible grant
projects within the river corridor so that they can determine
funding levels and technical assistance. Batchelder stated
the parks services asked all jurisdictions in the corridor to
respond with grant proposal ideas. The Commission discussed
possible grant ideas and felt that staff should send in grant
proposal ideas to the National Park Service for the following
items:
1. Scenic Overlook
2. New Park Development
3. Informational Materials
4. Non Point Source Pollution
5. Educational Programs
6. Scenic Bluff, Overlook and
and
Storm Water Clean Up
Bird Watching Opportunities
The Commission directed staff to prepare these scoping forms
for the National Park Service.
VERBAL UPDATES
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated the next meeting on
November 8 is the same day as an election and that the meeting
cannot start until 8:00 P.M. Batchelder inquired if the
Commission wanted to meet on a different evening or if they
would like to begin their meeting at 8:00 o'clock P.M. The
Commission directed staff to prepare the November park meeting
for their regular day beginning at 8:00 o'clock P.M.
Batchelder distributed a petition that
had been received by
City Council at their October 4 meeting
from residents of the
Brentwood and Kensington neighborhoods
officially petitioning
the City of Mendota Heights not to
construct the picnic
shelter structure in North Kensington Park. Batchelder stated
this park shelter had been included as
an option at the time
the City Council approved the concept
plans. He stated the
City Council directed the architect to
include the shelter in
the final plans and specifications
as an option to be
considered at the time when the final
plans are approved or
bids awarded.
Vice Chair Spicer stated it has been the Parks Commission
contention all along that there should not be a picnic shelter
located in North Kensington Park, Commissioner Libra stated
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that all of the points the residents are making in the
petitions are points that the Parks Commission has already
made. Libra stated if the residents in this area want a more
passive park then perhaps the landscape plan should be scaled
back for the design of this park and it may not be necessary
to build such a masterpiece in North Kensington Park.
Commissioner Libra stated the Parks Commission should
acknowledge this petition and he moved to recommend that the
shelter be eliminated.
Commissioner Norton seconded the motion.
AYES: 3
NAYS: 0
ABSTAIN: 1, KLEINGLASS
Commissioner Kleinglass stated that he abstained from voting
on this recommendation because this item will come back to the
Parks Commission at the time of the final plans and can be
addressed at that time.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated that the Kensington
Park residents had expressed concern about traffic on
Stockbridge Avenue where the trail crosses from North
Kensington Park from South Kensington Park and he stated that
Joni Giese, landscape architect, will be addressing this as
part of the final plans.
Parks Project Manager Kullander described the ongoing park
improvements that were approved for 1994 including the
enlargement of the Friendly Hills skating rink. Kullander
stated this project had been completed and included the moving
of the warming house, the realignment of electric and gas
service, enlarging of the skating rink and redesign of the
drainage and the restoration of the grass that was disturbed
during the enlargement. Kullander stated the park crews took
a lot of pride in this project and are looking forward to
having a larger skating rink to serve the non -hockey public.
Kullander stated that the Wentworth Park play equipment had
been ordered and the City is awaiting delivery. Kullander
stated the bridge for Valley Park had come in very high during
the bidding process, so staff is re -bidding the project and is
looking at alternatives in order to keep the price of the
bridge under $10,000.
Kullander stated the
informational
signs in
the parks
has been
put on hold, however
the maps for
the trail
system are being
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updated with the receipt of new highway maps. He stated the
signs should be able to be installed in the City parks in
early spring.
The Commission discussed stenciling mile markers on the trails
and discussed the fact that perhaps the Commission should
spend a Saturday or Sunday doing the stenciling themselves in
order to give them an opportunity to see the park system and
provide a benefit to the City. The Commission asked staff to
place this on the next agenda.
Kullander described the Crown Point washout and the fact that
MnDOT has hired a contractor to fix this. Commissioner Norton
inquired about work going on in Valley Park north of Marie
Avenue. Kullander stated that washouts had occurred in this
area and that gabions are being installed by the same
contractor who is working on the Ivy Falls Project.
Kullander stated the City staff had taken some time in
analyzing the situation at the archery range and that staff is
proposing some signs be installed along the trail warning
trail users. He stated that selective cutting of the grass
would establish shooting lanes that will be separated from the
trail area with a natural barrier, that signs could be
installed announcing the rules of the archery range and that
staff is considering using metal poles to install the hay
bails. He stated that for the most part, people will be
bringing their own targets to the range.
Kullander stated he attended the public hearing for the
County's North Urban Trail Plan. He stated a few Mendota
Heights residents also attended and spoke in opposition to the
trail if it was in their front yard. Kullander stated the
North Urban Trail Plan next goes to the County Board and if
approved, it will be sent to the Metropolitan Council. He
stated the Metropolitan Council will be reviewing this plan to
determine if regional trail standards can be deviated from as
far as the width of the trail and boulevards.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder submitted pictures of the
recent vandalism in City parks, particularly spray painting of
various park facilities.
Commissioner Libra stated the soccer season is now over for
the Mendota Heights Athletic Association and they had over 600
people participate. He stated the Mendota Heights Athletic
Association's recent newsletter thanked the City for the good
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job they have one with the fields and that for the most part
all of the soccer fields have worked very well. Libra stated
the City has done a great job both in maintenance and in
scheduling of the soccer fields and that Mendota Heights
Athletic Association is grateful.
The Commission discussed the deterioration of the Wentworth
Park soccer field. Libra stated that perhaps Wentworth Park
needs to be regulated because of the poor drainage of the
field and when it receives heavy use gets quiet muddy. Libra
stated the Kensington fields are extremely noisy with the air
noise and freeway noise, but otherwise are excellent fields..
PARR VISION AND PHILOSOPHY
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated that the City
Council had desired that the Commission consider and review
various park policies in order to establish a mission, a
vision or philosophy for both parks and recreation. He stated
this is a high priority on the Target List for 1993/1994. He
stated that specifically the Council requested the Commission:
1. Evaluate future capital improvement needs within the
parks system.
2. Clarify the purpose and use of various park and
recreation funding sources.
3. Review the current park dedication formula.
4. Review the need for additional recreational programming.
Batchelder stated the Commission has completed Item No. 1
which is to establish a capital improvement plan. The
Commission discussed establishing policies for the Special
Park Fund, park dedications and to review the current status
of the recreation program.
Vice Chair Spicer stated there are so many things the City
could be doing if it had a full time recreation department.
Spicer mentioned golf programs and ski trips as possibilities.
The Commission requested that Recreation Programmer Shelli
Morgan appear on a future agenda to provide a review of the
recreation programs in the past year and to get her ideas
about future recreation programs that the City could have.
The Commission discussed a document entitled "The Role of the
Park and Recreation Commission" and felt that the work which
had been done in 1992 is the basic framework for a mission
statement. The Commission asked staff to incorporate this
language into a mission statement and perhaps this could be
added as a Purpose section in the Ordinance which establishes
the Parks and Recreation Commission.
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ELECTION OF OFFICERS
The Commission directed staff to place on the November agenda
the selection of a Vice Chair to replace Acting Chair Spicer
until the February meeting.
There being no further business, the Parks and Recreation
Commission adjourned its meeting at 8:10 o'clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kevin Batchelder
Administrative Assistant