1993-06-08 Parks and Rec Comm MinutesThe regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Parks and Recreation
Commission was held on Tuesday, June 8, 1993 in the City Hall Large
Conference Room, 1101 Victoria Curve. The meeting was called to
order at 6:30 o'clock P.M. The following members were present:
Norton, Libra, Linnell, Spicer, Damberg and Katz. Commissioner
Kleinglass was excused. Also present was Administrative Assistant
Kevin Batchelder.
APPROVAL OF NINUTES
Commissioner Spicer moved to approve the May 11, 1993, Minutes
with corrections.
Commissioner Linnell seconded the motion.
AYESs 6
NAYS: 0
COMMISSION COMbIENTS
Commissioner Libra mentioned the soccer groups had been out at
Kensington Park to examine the soccer fields and noticed the
fence along the west side by the townhouse and Centex parking
was only a five foot (51) fence. Libra asked staff to
investigate this matter. Libra stated he was concerned that
kicks to clear the ball would be entering the Centex property
and possibly causing damage to cars or windows.
Commissioner Damberg inquired if the Parks Commission had
considered using the concession stand money towards the Park
Budget when they had met with the Fire Relief Association in
May. Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated the agreement
for the concession stand was a one year term requiring an
annual report on the finances and revenues of the concession
stand. Commissioner Damberg stated it was her desire that
when this agreement is renewed in a year that if money is
generated in the park it should be returned to the park.
Commissioner Spicer stated Mend -Eagan had a baseball
tournament on June 5th and 6th at Mendakota Park and that on
their behalf he wanted to thank all the City staff that had
been extremely cooperative in helping Mend -Eagan with this
tournament including Shelli Morgan and Terry Blum and his
crew.
Spicer stated
with
the
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design
for the
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of foul balls tend to go back into the center area where
people are participating as spectators. Spicer stated several
people were hit with foul balls during this tournament and
stated he was aware that other communities have provided
netting between the concession stands and the backstop to stop
foul balls. Spicer stated he was concerned because with this
type of pinwheel design, spectators have their backs to the
other fields. Batchelder stated this park had been disagreed
for adult softball, in which foul balls behind home plate are
rare. The Parks Commission asked City staff to get estimates
on netting including:
1. nylon netting that would be temporary and seasonal; and
2, metal fiber netting that would be more permanent; and
3. other netting that might also provide shade in this area.
FUTURE LAND ACQUISITION
Chair Katz introduced this item by stating the Commission was
revisiting the future land acquisition issue after discussing
and examining goals and priorities last fall. Katz stated the
memo provided to the Commission listed the sites that the
Commission had ranked as priority parcels for land acquisition
and had listed the priorities and goals that had been
discussed by the Commission.
Katz asked Administrative Assistant Batchelder to provide a
brief review of those sites that had been ranked the highest
by the Commission in November. These sites included: Par 3
Golf Course, Olin Site, Dodd Road right-of-way, school
district/friendly hills, Centex remainder and Foss property.
Batchelder stated the priorities and goals that were discussed
by the Parks and Recreation Commission included the following:
Land that is adjacent to existing parks.
Possible acquisition of one large site.
Land that could be used for trail extensions or trail
links.
Batchelder reviewed the vacant sites that had been ranked by
the Commission in November. Batchelder stated at that time,
Commissioner Hunter had inquired about providing a fact sheet
for the western Resurrection Cemetery site and that staff
could prepare that if the Parks Commission was still
interested. The Commission directed staff to provide a fact
sheet for western Resurrection Cemetery.
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Par 3 Golf Course
Commissioner Spicer inquired, hypothetically, if in the City's
acquisition of the Par 3 Golf Course the City would be using
bond sales to pay for this acquisition. Batchelder stated yes
that was the assumption staff had made in the calculation of
revenues generated and the amount of bonding the City could
afford based on these revenues. Batchelder stated if the City
decided to use Special Park Fund or Referendum money that is
also available. Commissioner Spicer inquired if,
hypothetically, the City could conceivably waive the deferred
assessments on this property. Batchelder stated the bonding
that had been issued for the public improvements in this area
had to be satisfied and that the deferred assessments had to
be paid if the property is transferred. Commissioner Damberg
stated it was her understanding that most people in this
neighborhood wanted to keep the golf course as open space and
did not want to see it developed.
Batchelder explained the revenue calculations and debt service
calculations that staff had made regarding purchase of the Par
3 Golf Course. Batchelder informed the Commission that
following his letter to Mr. Schway, Mr. Schway had responded
with a telephone call saying he would proceed with other
options.
The Commission discussed the revenue calculations and debt
service calculations for the purchase of the Par 3 and
discussed the likely pay off of this property in a development
scenario and compared the two scenarios. The Commission felt
it might be in Mr. Schway's best interest to continue
considering working with the City on possible acquisition as
compared to what Mr. Schway might be able to receive from a
developer.
Burrows Farm
Batchelder stated at the June 1, 1993 City Council meeting Mr.
Ronald Smith approached the City regarding the possible
purchase, by the City, of the Burrows farm located on Victoria
Road between Marie Avenue and Stratford Road. Batchelder
stated this home recently suffered a fire and there was a
discussion about historical value and the possible interest in
preserving this home and rural site in the City. Batchelder
stated the Council was interested enough to refer this item to
the Parks and Recreation Commission for discussion.
Batchelder stated there are many factors to consider in
regards to preserving and maintaining this site including its
priority as an open space or park acquisition, its historical
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value® operating costs and ongoing liability depending on the
future use of City owned property, requirements for Americans
with Disability Act (ADA) for municipally owned structures,
provision of a life estate for Mr. Burrows, limited resources
for future land acquisition and the particular terms of
agreement offered in Mr. Smith's facsimile dated June Sp 1993.
Batchelder displayed a map showing this property and its site
features and other park land in the vicinity.
The Commission discussed the Burrows farm in context of their
priorities for land acquisition. Chair Katz stated she walks
this trail by the Burrows farm and finds that this land has a
lot of charm to it and feels it should be preserved in its
rural setting. Commissioner Damberg concurred stating that
this is a lovely site and an asset to this part of Mendota
Heights and she does not want to see it developed. Chair Katz
stated she would like to see the City Council continue
investigating Mr. Smith's offer. The Commission discussed the
factors that would have to be analyzed prior to acquiring this
property°
Commissioner Spicer moved to recommend that the City Council
investigate this offer and the feasibility of acquiring the
Burrows farm. Spicer stated this motion should include the
statement that the Parks Commission reserves its option on the
use of this land until such an investigation is complete
including the appraisal of the buildings and land and an
appraisal of the historical value of this land.
Commissioner Damberg seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
The Commission was unanimous that the use of the land should
emphasize passive open space. Commissioner Linnell stated it
might be a possibility to have Mr. Burrows donate the land in
his will to the City.
Somerset Area Studv
Commissioner Linnell stated he had attended some of the
meetings on the Somerset Area Study and that some residents
had indicated an interest in park land in this area and other
residents had indicated they were only interested in private
open space uses. Batchelder stated the Planning Commission
had released the Planner to complete Phase III of the Study
which includes Master Plan Alternatives. Batchelder stated
park alternatives would be presented as part of this Master
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Plan and it would probably be possible to bring this
information before a future Parks and Recreation Commission
meeting.
Batchelder stated that one of the options being considered by
the neighbors was the possibility of a private nature
conservancy where land would be dedicated as open space on a
private basis. Batchelder stated some residents in this area
had indicated they were not interested in bringing the public
into this area with public paths or trails. Commissioner
Libra stated he would like to have staff look into the
possibility of widened shoulders or a pathway along Wentworth
Avenue. Libra stated Wentworth Avenue is very narrow and a
lot of people like to walk in this area including walking a
loop around the Somerset Golf Course. The Commission directed
the Parks Project Manager to take a look at the possibility of
trails or widened shoulders along Wentworth Avenue.
Review of Land Use Acquisition
The Parks Commission was of a consensus that the goals and
priorities for future land acquisition would remain as is and
directed staff to prepare a fact sheet on the western
Resurrection site and to provide their recommendation on the
Burrows site to the City Council.
DISCUSSION OF PARKING
MENDOTA HEIGHTS ROAD
Batchelder stated at the June 1, 1993 City Council meeting the
City Council adopted an Ordinance restricting parking along
Victoria Curve by the ballfields up to the Synagogue and along
Delaware Avenue at Sibley Park. Batchelder stated both
actions by the Council were due to heavy use of ballfields.
Batchelder described the parking limitations enacted by the
City Council. He stated that during the discussion of this
topic the Council discussed the parking situation that exists
along Mendota Heights Road at Hagstrom-King Park during
scheduled play at the ballfield. Batchelder stated the City
Council had directed the Parks and Recreation Commission to
review this issue.
Commissioner Spicer stated Hagstrom-King Park did indeed have
a small parking lot but that was because, at forty-four feet
(441) in width, Mendota Heights Road was available for parking
on both sides. The Commission discussed painting crosswalks
on Mendota Heights Road in order to provide safe crossings at
appropriate places on the road. Commissioner Linnell stated
if possible any crosswalks provided at Mendota Heights Road
should be done at trail heads or intersections in order to
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make them effective.
Commissioner Spicer stated the City could do the crosswalks as
it does not appear to be an expensive action on the City's
part. Spicer stated he was concerned about restricting
parking to one side of Mendota Heights Road as this would
force people to park further from the ballfield and walk a
Longer distance in the public road. Spicer stated Hagstrom-
King Park ballfield was used for only seven weeks of the year
by the Mend -Eagan Athletic Association.
Commissioner Spicer moved to recommend that parking be
permitted on both sides of Mendota Heights Road at Hagstrom-
King Park and directed staff to examine appropriate places to
provide crosswalks.
Commissioner Linnell seconded the motion.
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The
Commission was unanimous in
stating that Hagstrom-King
Park
had been counted
as a park to
be used for active play and
that
Referendum money
had been spent to upgrade this ballfield
for
reseeding, team benches and
backstops with a landscape
buffer
along the east
boundary.
Batchelder stated City staff had received telephone requests
to limit the parking along Mendakota Drive at the Mendakota
Park ballfields. Batchelder stated he had been expecting
written requests to arrive prior to the Parks meeting and they
have not been received. Batchelder stated the typical process
is to have the Police Department and the Engineering
Department review these requests and make a recommendation to
City Council. The Commission was of a consensus that if it
makes sense to restrict parking on one side of Mendakota Drive
then the City Council should do so. Chair Katz stated it
might be appropriate for all recreation information to state
concerns about parking and using the parking lot. Katz stated
if parking is restricted it should be publicized prior to
writing tickets.
RENTAL TENTS
Batchelder stated that following last year's community
celebration it was discussed that perhaps the City could buy
a couple of big top tents for use during the community
celebration and to provide rental tents within the community.
Batchelder stated it was felt at that time it might be more
cost effective to purchase instead of renting the tents.
Batchelder stated Recreation Programmer Morgan had provided
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some comparisons on rental versus purchase price. Batchelder
stated a 20' by 30' tent costs approximately $100 to rent for
a day and that we would be using two tents for the community
celebration. Batchelder stated the rental agencies that had
been contacted typically sell used tents in the Fall depending
upon their condition in a price range of $400 to $600.
Batchelder stated a new tent would cost approximately $1,000
to $1,200. The Parks and Recreation Commission and staff felt
the tents were too expensive to provide efficiencies to
purchase and that the community celebration should continue to
rent a tent.
The Commission discussed the community celebration.
Commissioner Spicer stated Mend -Eagan would like to try some
type of all star game or baseball activity and was instructed
to contact Michelle Morgan about fitting in during the
softball tournament schedule. Commissioner Libra stated a
Mend -Eagan booth involving information and registrations for
Fall events might be a good idea.
Commissioner Spicer stated Mend -Eagan was talking about
combining with West St. Paul and offering new programs.
Spicer stated these new sports programs would be considered
feeder programs to the high school and included girl's
volleyball, youth golf, youth wrestling and youth track and
field.
Batchelder stated the Parks Commission had asked staff to look
at future capital improvements in the parks at the May
meeting. Batchelder stated City staff was looking at this and
would be discussing this as part of the 1994 Budget process.
Batchelder stated equipment requests had already been put in
on a five year plan including trucks and mowers, etc.
Batchelder stated the capital infrastructure type improvements
would include items such as tennis court resurfacing,
basketball court resurfacing, bridges and culverts, various
trail segments and the possibility of a new tennis court at
Hagstrom-King Park. Batchelder stated this item could be
brought back again at the July meeting and asked the
Commission if they had any ideas.
Commissioner Linnell stated he would like to see Americans
with Disability Act (ADA) improvements be included in the
capital infrastructure plan. Linnell stated this could
include tennis court openings, playground updates and warming
shelters. The Commission discussed ADA standards.
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Commissioner Linnell stated that wooden screens around some of
the port -a -potties used in the park might be an idea to
consider for capital improvements.
Commissioners Libra and Spicer stated the Sibley Park
bathrooms were often not open during scheduled play and asked
staff to contact the School District about possibly providing
better access to the bathrooms.
Commissioner Linnell inquired about paving the entrance and
parking lot at Rogers Lake Park. The Commission stated this
had been considered during the Referendum and it had been
decided to leave this access road and parking lot natural
based on the fact that dust did not seem to be a problem at
this park, that improvements were made to the gravel road and
that the Commission wants to limit blacktop in the parks.
Commissioner Linnell stated rest stops, benches and overlooks
along the trail system should be considered as a capital
improvement. The Commission discussed the bridges in Valley
Park and Wentworth Park and directed the Parks Project Manager
to provide some alternatives and to again discuss the funding
of the bridges in Valley and Wentworth Parks at their July
meeting.
Batchelder described the concession agreement entered into
between the Fire Relief Association and the City Council at
the May 18th meeting. Batchelder stated Mend -Eagan used
Mendakota Park on June 5th and 6th for a baseball tournament
and also used the concession stands in cooperation with the
Fire Relief Association.
Batchelder stated Dakota County had been awarded an ISTEA
Grant for the amount of $330,000 and will be constructing an
underpass on the Soo Line trail in conjunction with the
Mendota Interchange Project. Batchelder stated the County
will be seeking future grants to complete the remainder of the
Soo Line trail and estimated the total project cost to be $2.2
million.
Commissioner Libra presented a memo to staff regarding the
soccer fields at Kensington Park and the possibility of
raising the power line in the vicinity of the soccer fields.
Commissioner Libra stated he would like to see this on the
July Parks and Recreation Commission agenda.
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There being no further business, the Parks and Recreation
Commission adjourned their meeting at 8:35 o'clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kevin Batchelder
Administrative Assistant