1993-05-11 Parks and Rec Comm MinutesThe regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Parks and Recreation
Commission was held on Tuesday, May 11, 1993 in the City Hall Large
Conference Room, 1101 Victoria Curve. The meeting was called to
order at 6:40 o°clock P.M. The following members were present:
Spicer, Kleinglass, Linnell and Norton. Commissioners Katz and
Damberg were excused. Commissioner Libra had notified the
Commission he would be late. Also present was Administrative
Assistant Kevin Batchelder and Parks Project Manager Guy Kullander.
Mr. Jim Kilburg, President of the Fire Relief Association and three
members of the Fire Relief Association were in the audience.
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Commissioner Norton moved to approve the April 13, 1993,
Minutes with corrections.
Commissioner Linnell seconded the motion.
Vice Chair Spicer introduced this item by stating the Parks
and Recreation Commission had been aware, for over a year,
that the Fire Relief Association had desired to operate the
Mendakota Park Concession Stand. Spicer also stated Mend -
Eagan was not interested in doing this on a regular basis.
Fire Relief Association President Jim Kilburg stated he had
submitted a letter in order to describe what the Fire Relief
Association is and what they do for the Fire Department and
the City of Mendota Heights. Kilburg stated their major
efforts were towards funding of the fire prevention program.
Kilburg stated the Fire Relief Association is loosing funding
donations, which they have received from the VFW in the past,
due to the demise of pull tabs.
Commissioner Spicer inquired as to how the money, the Fire
Relief Association would make off the concession stands, would
go back into the community. Kilburg stated the Fire Relief
Association intended to use this money to help fund their fire
prevention program. Kilburg stated with the loss of VFW
donations the Fire Relief Association is trying to find other
avenues to provide funding for their program other than going
to City Council and asking for budgetary dollars. Kilburg
stated the Fire Relief Association operated the concession
stand twice last summer and has been in operation for a week
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this year under a temporary basis approved by the City
Council. Kilburg stated the Fire Relief Association intends
to operate on a minimum of three nights per week with the
possibility of two tournaments a month during the summer.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder outlined the agreement
which had been provided to the Parks and Recreation
Commissions Batchelder stated this agreement was done in
cooperation with the Fire Relief Association and through
putting together this agreement, the City has come to realize
the level of investment and commitment needed to operate a
concessions stand. Commissioner Norton inquired if the money
was coming out of the Park Fund to pay for the insurance.
Batchelder stated the general liability coverage provided by
the City already names the members of the Relief Association
and no changes to the general liability are necessary as that
was already covered. Batchelder stated a Volunteer Extension
was taken out on the Worker°s Compensation Insurance and this
would provide coverage for all City volunteers including park
adopters® commissioners and other volunteers that may be
working on behalf of the City for various reasons. Batchelder
stated this Volunteer Extension to the Worker's Compensation
Insurance costs about $935 a year and he is unsure whether
that money was coming from the Special Park Fund.
Commissioner Kleinglass inquired about the expenditures of the
Fire Relief Association. Kilburg explained that the Fire
Prevention Program began in 1985 and is getting bigger and
bigger every year. He stated their expenditures include money
for school visits, brochures and displays. Kilburg stated
they have a Dance Fund which raises approximately $9,000 a
year and this is used to help pay insurance, awards,
recognition ceremonies, sending of flowers to fire fighter
families and to other individuals for special reasons.
Kilburg stated they buy their own uniforms and they do not ask
the City Council for this money. Kilburg stated, in the past,
they have purchased a Cellular phone, computer for the
equipment command vehicle, a television set and VCR which they
use for training videos, a high pressure washer to clean and
test hose and they have purchased Pluggie.
Commissioner Kleinglass stated he understood all the fire
fighters were volunteers and inquired as to how they are paid.
Kilburg responded the Fire Department is paid by the hour for
calls and drills and that the City provides money into a
pension fund. Kilburg stated that operating the concession
stand would allow the Fire Relief Association opportunity to
replace the contributions from the VFW that they are no longer
able to rely upon.
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)greement between the Fire Relief Association and the City of
4endota Heights for operation of the Mendakota Park Concession
Stand.
Commissioner Norton seconded the motion.
Batchelder stated there would be slight changes to the
agreement, as written tonight, due to his discussions with Don
Maddaus, the City's insurance agent, this morning.
CONCRETE PADS
Parks Project Manager Kullander explained that Parks
Leadperson Terry Blum had requested the Commission to
authorize the expenditure of $6,000 in order to install
concrete pads for bleachers at eight ball fields in the City's
neighborhood parks. Kullander stated that at the Parks
Commission's direction in April, staff had looked into other
surfaces such as gravel and asphalt for bleacher pads.
Kullander estimated if the City crews were to dig out these
pads and place gravel their time and cost would be roughly the
same as contracting for concrete pads. Kullander stated the
City would still have to spray the gravel pads and the asphalt
pads were not the best on hot summer days as the bleachers can
sink into the asphalt.
vice Chair Spicer inquired if it was cost efficient to place
concrete pads for the bleachers in the neighborhood parks.
Kullander stated herbicide can be used instead of building a
pad or the park crews could pair up and move the bleachers.
Kullander explained this request originated from the fact that
one person cannot move the bleachers when he is in the park
mowing them. He stated it takes two to three men to move
these heavy bleachers. Spicer stated for the 120 days a year
that the park crews are mowing grass, it is probably not
necessary to build bleacher pads.
�ommissioner Linnell stated if it is important to the park
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they
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Spicer requested that the park crews come back to the Parks
Commission for discussion of location of bleacher pads and the
priority in which they will be built.
Commissioner Libra seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
MENDOTA HEIGHTS PAR 3
GOLF COURSE ACQUISITION
Administrative Assistant Batchelder stated, at the request of
the Parks and Recreation Commission, staff had begun
discussions with Mr. Eugene Schway, owner of the Mendota
Heights Par 3 Golf Course, regarding acquisition of the Par 3
Golf Course by the City of Mendota Heights. Batchelder stated
staff had discussed the current operations at the golf course,
the number of rounds per year and a sale price with Mr. Schway
who had then provided the City with five years of tax
information, operating costs and league schedules for the
City°s analysis. Batchelder stated Treasurer Shaughnessy, who
points out in his memo, the purchase price offered by Mr.
Schway would total approximately $1.8 million and that this
works out to be a value of over $100,000 per acre. Batchelder
stated Treasurer Shaughnessy's analysis showed that it would
appear the revenues could support a City purchase price in the
$800,000 to $900,000 range, leaving the City about $900,000
short of the requested purchase price. Batchelder stated if
the Parks Commission had serious interest in the purchase of
the Mendota Heights Par 3 the first step should be to obtain
an Appraisal of Property in order to determine an appropriate
value of the property and to begin to balance all of the
factors involved with the purchase.
vice Chair Spicer inquired about the deferred assessments on
the property and wondered if the City should purchase the
property do these deferred assessments disappear. Batchelder
stated no, and that the City still has to satisfy the bonds.
Spicer stated it makes sense for the City to pursue an
appraisal of this property due to its potential to be a
revenue generator in the future, Batchelder explained if a
property appraisal is ordered, the City could then begin to do
more detailed analysis, including the price of the land, the
proper location for golf course in Mendota Heights, future
competition, loss tax opportunity revenues and the budget
impact of City operations. He further stated staff could also
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compare these numbers with other municipal operations.
Vice Chair Spicer stated it would be in the City°s interest to
plan ahead and after the fifteen year bonds to purchase the
golf course retire, then the City would be profiting off of
the revenues.
n Mendota Heights including the land held by Resurrection
Linnell stated it might be more appropriate to
llow the Par 3 to develop as single family homes which woulAL
rovi a tax base in this area and have a golf course in a
ess developable area such as the Resurrection Cemetery
•roperty where there is airportnoise.
Spicer stated this golf course could possibly provide a long
term source of revenue for the City and this might appeal to
the Parks Commissioners as the Special Park Fund is relying on
cash dedications for subdivisions which are dwindling.
Commissioner Linnell inquired about the Friendly Hills school
site and wondered if this could ever be used as a golf course
on a lease basis from the school district. Batchelder stated
whenever the City has inquired if the school district intends
to release the land, they say no and that they are going to
hold on to it for possible future schools.
Commissioner Spicer moved that the City obtain an appraisal to
determine the value of the Par 3 Golf Course land and to
direct staff to look at alternative sites for golf courses.
eights and compare this to the fact that Mendota Heights Par
is already an operating business as compared to raw land.
ommissioner Libra stated further that the City could compare
he cost of improving alternate land costs and the fact that
his would be a business buy out.
Commissioner Spicer accepted the friendly amendment.
Commissioner Libra seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
Parks Project Manager �{ullander stated the City°s Budget for
1993 had included the replacement of four bridges in Wentworth
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aAA d Valley Parks for the amount of $25,000 Co be funded by
Referendum or Special Park Fund monies. Kullander stated
these bridges keep shifting every year when the ice melts and
the rails are getting ricketie and that the asphalt ramps
leading up to the bridge are in need of constant repairs
Kullander explained the Wentworth bridges are four feet wide
and just cover a small span and the City park crews cannot get
their equipment over these bridges. Kullander stated it would
be easy to place a culvert with a paved trail in these
locations and the culvert would have no maintenance and no
liability due to weak railings. Kullander stated this would
allow the maintenance or emergency vehicles to have access to
the park from one location. Kullander stated one of the
bridges in Wentworth Park was a bridge that had been moved
from Valley Park after a washout.
Kullander stated in Valley Park to construct a culvert would
be expensive because of the large flow of water in this area
and that a bridge would be cheaper. Kullander stated this
bridge could be five feet wide due to the fact that vehicle
access is not needed in this area. Kullander stated this
would be a structural steel bridge with wood planking on
concrete footing foundations,
Kullander stated, in the future, there are two other bridges
which might need replacement, Rogers Lake Park and Friendly
Hills Park, and it would be most appropriate to replace those
bridges by culverts in the future.
Administrative Assistant Batchelder explained this item was
not advertised in the Referendum and may not be appropriate to
use Referendum funding for this item. Batchelder stated the
Referendum funding remaining is earmarked and that this might
be more appropriate to come out of the Special Park Fund.
Batchelder stated Special Park Funds are intended to provide
for capital improvements in parks or for park land purchases.
Commissioner Linnell stated he felt this was more of a
maintenance item and should be paid for through the General
Fund. Linnell stated the City needs to set up a major
maintenance fund for the parks, especially if it seems there
will be major expenditures every year. Linnell stated as far
as specific bridges go, he has visited the Valley Park bridge
site and it appears to be in descent shape. Linnell admitted
the railings at the Valley Park bridge needed to be fixed or
replaced.
Kullander stated the City park crews have been replacing the
railings and doing patch jobs on these bridges on a continuous
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basis. Kullander stated the park crews feel that a permanent
fix is needed for these bridges. Commissioner Linnell stated
he would like to consider having a bridge at Wentworth Park at
least in one location instead of a culvert. He stated this
bridge could be widened out for motor vehicle access.
o 'der future capital improvements Batchelder stated the
pecial Park Fund grew by $28,000 last year. Commissioner
ibra inquired if other big park maintenance items were coming
* due in the near future. Kullander stated no, not really.
* stated most maintenance items are covered by the General
und Maintenance Budget which includes the warming houses,
ockey boards, trail improvements and picnic tableso
ullander that the only capital improvements needed in the
ear future would be for ADA modifications, which are not
ignificant. He stated that the Valley bridge by itself would
le $9,000 to $10,000 and he compared this to the cost of the
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Commissioner Kleinglass stated it seems the Parks Commission
was of a consensus to do this project but the question was how
to pay for it. Commissioner Linnell stated Special Park Funds
would be appropriate if this is deemed to be a life safety
issue. Commissioner Kleinglass inquired about the Special
Park Fund. Batchelder explained the Special Park Fund
currently has $391,614 in it and that this is an increase of
$28,639 from 1992. Kleinglass stated it seems a lot of people
are using the trails and the Maintenance Funds in the Parks
Budget is not adequate to pay for one bridge a year.
Kleinglass inquired, if in staff°s estimation, is this
absolutely necessary to be done in 1993. Kullander stated the
patching and reinforcement of the railings on these bridges is
a liability concern. Kullander stated we have had the same
problem for the last few years, it could cost about $500 to
$1,000 this year to fix the railings and next year the frost
could heave again and it would need to be done all over.
Commissioner Libra inquired about the time frame in completing
this project. Kullander responded it would take approximately
two months for bidding and the construction process.
Commissioner Norton repeated that the Parks Commission would
like to see projections for capital improvements. Kullander
responded the only large maintenance item, he could think of,
is the resurfacing of the tennis courts. He stated
resurfacing of the tennis courts had been an annual budget
item until 1993. Linnell stated the Americans With Disability
Act might require a number of improvements in the City parks.
Kullander stated he had done a self evaluation of the park
system and that the Referendum had anticipated most of the
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The Commission directed staff to look at the City°s
Maintenance Budget and to fix what bridges we can this year
and to report back at the dune meeting about possible
alternatives for fixing the bridges.
VERBAL UPDATES
Batchelder distributed a roster of the City Council and
Commission members.
Batchelder stated the City had recently begun a wildflower
project at Victoria Highlands Park with the help of a
volunteer, Ms. Shari Hanson, of 930 Douglas. Batchelder
stated the park crews had burned an area around the Victoria
Highlands pond and that Ms. Hanson had cleared the land and
planted wildflower seeds. Batchelder stated it was nice to
have a volunteer help the City in this fashion. He further
stated that burning and seeding may need to be repeated next
year.
Batchelder stated the City's Police Department has agreed to
lock the comfort stations at Mendakota and Kensington Parks.
Batchelder stated seven nights a week the Police will be
driving through the parks at closing time and locking up these
facilities.
Batchelder stated Dakota County and the Metropolitan Council
were holding a public hearing on May 2Gth at 7:00 P.M. at
Wentworth Library to discuss the Dakota County Regional Trail
Plan including the acquisition of the Soo Line Railroad for
regional trail purposes.
Parks Project Manager Kullander stated the County's trail plan
includes trails throughout each City and the County and if the
County has a trail through your City they usually pay for it.
Kullander stated the Pilot Knob trail, which will be
constructed in conjunction with the Highway 55 project, may be
included on the County plan after discussions with their
staff. Kullander stated that previously Lexington Avenue had
been considered the north/south County route in this area but
its unlikely that the Lexington Avenue trail will be built
within the next ten years and that in a few years Lexington
Avenue may be turned back to the City. Kullander stated
County staff has agreed to consider using Pilot Knob Road
instead of Lexington Avenue for the County trail. If this was
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accepted the County would pay for the trail which the City had
included in the highway project. Kullander stated the County
may provide approximately $60,000 of funding if the County
Board approves this change of trail routings Kullander stated
the City then would only have to pay for a connection from the
Mendota Bridge to the Pilot Knob Road trail.
he parks and trails systems. Commissioner Linnell inquired
f the Ivy Falls Project had progressed to the point that
andscape plans for the pond in Ivy Falls had been completed.
Cullander stated no, but he has had discussions with Engineer
ckles and at the time the landscape plan is completed, they
ill stake the area and maybe the Parks Commission can tour
he area to determine appropriate landscaping in coordination
ith the Parks Project manager.
There being no further business, the Parks and Recreation
Commission adjourned at 8:05 o'clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kevin Batchelder
Administrative Assistant