2004-01-13 Parks and Rec Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES
JANUARY 13, 2004
The regular
meeting
of the Mendota Heights
Parks and Recreation Commission was held
on Tuesday,
January
13, 2004 in the Council
Chambers at City Hall, 1101 Victoria
Curve. The
meeting
was called to order at 6:30
p.m.
The following Commissioners were present: Chair Richard Spicer and Commissioners
Larry Craighead, Paul Portz, Stan Linnell, Dave Libra and Missie Hickey. Commissioner
Raymond Morris was excused from the meeting. City Staff present were Recreation
Programmer Teresa Gangelhoff, Parks Project Manager Guy Kullander and
Administrative Assistant Patrick C. Hollister. Mr. Hollister took the minutes.
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Commissioner Craighead moved to approve the November 13, 2003 minutes with
revisions.
Commissioner Portz seconded the motion.
AYES:
NAYS:
RECREATION PROGRAMMER'S UPDATE
Ms. Gangelhoffpresented the Recreation Programmer's Update.
SNOWMOBILING ON ROGERS LAKE
Mr. Clifford Timm addressed the Commission. Mr. Timm said that he would like
permission from the City to ride a snowmobile on Rogers Lake one time this winter to
attempt to "herd" the fish from the north end of Rogers Lake to the south end. Mr. Timm
explained that thanks to the aerator in Rogers Lake Park there is more oxygen in the south
end compared to the north end. Mr. Timm said that he would like to entice the fish to
migrate to the south end for the lake while the culvert is still passable. Mr. Timm said
that he is confident that this technique would work, because when he was growing up on
the farm he used to hit the ice with a sledgehammer to scare the fish to an ice hole where
his friend would then spear them.
Chair Spicer asked Mr. Timm how long he thought he needed to ride the snowmobile,
and if the snowmobile run would be a one-time event or if he would need to do this
repeatedly.
Mr. Timm said that he would like to crisscross the north end of the lake with one other
person on two snowmobiles for one or two hours. Mr. Timm said that he felt this would
be sufficient to drive the fish to the south and that if it were not, he would conclude that it
is a lost cause. Mr. Timm said that he was also interested in discussing feeding the fish.
Chair Spicer said that
the
Parks Commission should limit
this evening's discussion to the
snowmobile proposal
and
save the feeding discussion for
another evening. Chair Spicer
asked for a motion on
the
snowmobile idea.
Commissioner Portz moved to recommend that the Council grant permission for one
snowmobile run on the north end of Rogers Lake involving up to two snowmobiles and
up to two hours, provided that the neighbors around the lake are notified in advance.
Commissioner Libra seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Chair Spicer invited Mr. Timm to come back to the Commission in the spring to discuss
feeding the fish.
RULES AND RENTAL FEES FOR USE OF CITY PARKS AND PROPERTY
Mr. Kullander presented his proposed changes to the rules and rental fees for the use of
City parks and property. Mr. Kullander said that he had made contacts with several
representatives of MHAA and the other local youth sports organizations about these
changes.
Chair Spicer recognized the
sole person
in the
audience for this issue, Mr. Rob Meyer,
1399 Clement Street, of the
Sibley Area
Sting
Soccer.
Mr. Meyer asked for clarification of how these changes would impact Sting soccer,
particularly the use of the two fields at Kensington and the field at MendakotaI
Mr. Kullander said that there would be a $25 registration fee for all three fields, but that
this would be a one-time fee for the entire season and would not be charged for each
separate game. Mr. Kullander said that the intent of this fee was to cover administrative
expenses. Mr. Kullander also said that the youth athletic organizations needed to be more
specific when defining the needs for field space before the season starts. Mr. Kullander
said that many times MHAA or Sting will reserve fields for more time than they actually
end up needing them, and then other groups question why they cannot use the empty
fields.
Mr. Meyer said that he would work more closely with the City to more precisely define
when they need the fields, but that this as difficult because of the unpredictability of the
weather.
Chair Spicer asked for a motion on Mr. Kullander's first recommendation, the $25
registration fee.
Commissioner Craighead moved to recommend that the Council authorize a $25
registration fee for fields, with the provision that Staff may waive the fee requirement in
the case of financial hardship.
Commissioner Libra seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Chair Spicer asked for a motion on Mr. Kullander's second recommendation regarding
tournament fees.
Commissioner Craighead moved to recommend that the Council authorize a tournament
fee of $150 for the first day and $100 for each subsequent day.
Commissioner Linnell seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
Chair Spicer asked Mr. Kuilander about his third recommendation, the removal of the
exemption for MHAA from the requirement for a damage deposit.
Ms. Gangelhoff said that MHAA had left a real mess last year after a tournament and that
the parks crew had to use specialized equipment to complete the cleanup.
Mr.
Kullander added that
after the
tournament, the Public Works crew had suggested that
the
City collect a damage
deposit in
the future.
Commissioner Libra moved recommend
that the
Council authorize
Staff to collect a
damage deposit of
$200.00 from MHAA
for use
of the Mendakota
Park facility.
Commissioner Portz seconded the motion.
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NAYS:
Mr. Kullander alerted the Commission that next month he would be addressing the
subject of a standard use agreement between that City and groups wishing to use the
concession stand at Mendakota Park during non-MHAA events.
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Chair Spicer said that he was disappointed that the Council had not allocated any money
for grant programs for trail improvements or extensions because a little money from the
City can leverage a lot of money from other sources. Chair Spicer said that the Parks
Commission should keep lobbying the Council for these funds.
Mr. Kullander pointed out that even though funds for trail planning were not placed in
this year's budget, the Council had responded to another request by the Parks
Commission by allocating money for buckthorn removal. Mr. Kullander said that the
Council had allocated $7000 dollars for this purpose and that the work would be begin
soon in some City parks.
VERBAL UPDATES
Staff provided updates on the following items:
• Playground Improvements in 2004
• Wagon Wheel Trail/Rogers Lake Improvements
• Buckthorn Control
• Clifford Timm Article
• E-mail Addresses
• Police Report
OTHER COMMENTS
Chair Spicer asked Staff to provide a copy of the section of the City's current
Comprehensive Plan on trails for the February meeting.
Commissioner Craighead asked Staff to inquire as to whether or not MHAA is using the
new Saint Thomas ice arena, and whether or not there is open ice time at the new arena
for the general public.
ADJOURN
Motion made to adjourn by Linnell and seconded by Portz.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
The meeting adjourned at 8:00 p.m.