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2004-11-10 Airport Relations Commission Minutes2004-11-10 Airport Relations Commission Minutes.txt[1/25/2018 4:21:20 PM] CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA AIRPORT RELATIONS COMMISSION MINUTES November 10, 2004 The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Airport Relations Commission was held on Wednesday, November 10, 2004, at 7:10 p.m., in the Large Conference Room at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights, Minnesota. The following Commissioners were present: Scott Beaty, Liz Petschel, Commissioner Povolny, John Roszak, and Ellsworth Stein. Staff present; Jim Danielson, City Administrator; Ultan Duggan, NOC Representative, and Bonita Sullivan, Recorder. Ms. Sullivan took the minutes. Not Present: Commissioners Gregg Fitzer and Vern Edstrom. Approval of Minutes A. October 13, 2004 Airport Relations Commission Minutes Commissioner Petschel stated that she had the following corrections: Page 2, Item B - NWA Terminal Proposal, third paragraph, should read: ‘Commissioner Petschel referenced an article she recently read in the Star Tribune regarding airport capacity that indicated that they have far exceeded at this point. She reviewed with the Commission noting that it is obvious that the airport would not exceed the total number of operations and that the maps would not be accurate.’ Page 2, paragraph 10, change from ‘Governor Aplenty’ to ‘Governor Pawlenty’ Page 4, paragraph four, should read ‘Chair Beaty suggested that the ARC Commission invite the Governor and State Legislative Representatives to the December ARC meeting for a discussion on some of the issues and concerns raised by the Northwest Airlines Terminal proposal. Commissioner Roszak stated that he had the following corrections: Page three, second paragraph, first line should read: ‘Commissioner Roszak suggested including a general outline of the issues they the ARC would like to discuss.’ Page three, sixth paragraph should read: Commission Meeting November 10, 2004 Mendota Heights Airport Relations Commission ‘Commissioner Roszak suggested that they the ARC not include the Part 150 issues noting that Minneapolis would be addressing the majority of the Part 150 concerns. He stated that the capacity issue and noise factor should be their main themes for discussion. He noted that the noise factor amounts to a subsidy of the airport and land planning and reviewed with the Commission.’ Page three, eighth paragraph, second sentence should read: He stated that many of the court airport issues are FAA issues not just MAC issues. and reviewed with the Commission. Chair Beaty stated that he had the following correction: Page four, eight paragraph, should read: 2004-11-10 Airport Relations Commission Minutes.txt[1/25/2018 4:21:20 PM] Referenced the sentence ‘noted that Delaware and Highway 110 is the appropriate four mile mark’ and clarified that it should read at ‘Dodd and Highway 110’. He explained that it would be three miles just past 35E. A motion was made by Commissioner Roszak, second by Commissioner Petschel, to approve the October 13, 2004 minutes as amended. Motion carried 4-0 Public Comments NONE Unfinished/New Business A. NOC Update – Ultan Duggan Ultan Duggan, City Council Member and NOC Alternate Representative, stated that he attended the last two NOC meetings and asked the Commission if they receive copies of the NOC minutes. Chair Beaty stated that the ARC has received minutes in the past noting that they have not received the last two sets of minutes. Council Member Duggan stated that he would ensure that copies of the minutes are forwarded to the ARC for their review. Council Member Duggan expressed concerns regarding the lack of representation for the City of Mendota Heights at the NOC meetings. He stated that the Community has indicated that they are not happy with the lack of representation at the NOC meetings and suggested tightening the requirements for the notification process to the Alternates when the NOC Representative is not able to attend. He stated that if the appointed NOC Representative is not able to attend the NOC meeting the NOC Alternate should be notified at least four to five days in advance of the meeting. Council Member Duggan explained that the NOC is primarily comprised of Community Representatives. He stated that he reviewed his understanding of the NOC Mission Statement, noting that all members of the NOC mutually agreed upon the Mission Commission Meeting November 10, 2004 Mendota Heights Airport Relations Commission Statement and asked the NOC members how they measure their success. He indicated that the group appeared a bit uncomfortable with the question noting that the NOC discussed disbanding the Commission altogether. He stated that the NOC discussed concerns including the issues and inability of the co-chairs to come to agreement on several items including the meeting schedule. He reviewed with the ARC Commission noting that the NOC has addressed the inability of the co-chairs to come to an agreement on the meeting schedule. Chair Beaty asked how they plan to fix the agenda issues and the problems between the co-chairs. Council Member Duggan stated that the issues between the co-chairs are a significant factor that would be worked on. He stated that approved Comprehensive Plans have been in place for metro area Cities affected by the airport since the 1960’s. He stated that if they were to examine and combine the common noise issues from the Comprehensive Plans for the Cities of Richfield, Bloomington, Mendota Heights, Eagan and Minneapolis, which have all been approved through 2030, it could provide better leverage in an effort to address the common concerns. He stated that the Met Council has approved many of the plans and proposals and he indicated that the NOC Representatives are interested in the idea of reviewing the Comprehensive Plans. He stated that the NOC discussed what they could do to help make the area more comfortable to live in and the NOC Commission members suggested setting a goal to try and achieve a 5-10% reduction in noise levels. Council Member Duggan stated that the recommended by-law changes were introduced 2004-11-10 Airport Relations Commission Minutes.txt[1/25/2018 4:21:20 PM] and discussed by the NOC Commission. He reviewed the proposed changes and meeting schedule with the Commission. He indicated that the Community is very unhappy about the lack of representation stating that in the future this would change, Mendota Heights would be represented at the NOC meetings. Commissioner Petschel noted that insulation for the 60/64 was part of the last document generated between the Airport and the Met Council and is part of the basis for Minneapolis lawsuit. She stated that the ARC saw an enlarged copy of the Met Council document that includes language that the Airport’s plan for expansion was approved under the proviso for insulation in the 60/64 areas. Council Member Duggan suggested that the ARC issue a letter of invitation to the Met Council to attend an ARC meeting to discuss the approved plan. Commissioner Roszak stated that it was his understanding that the Met Council has no jurisdiction over airport. Mr. Duggan clarified that the Met Council does have some jurisdiction with respect to the transportation issues. Commissioner Roszak expressed doubts that the Met Council has any jurisdiction over the operations adding that Mendota Heights’ issues of concern involve 17-35, EIS and crossing in the corridor. He stated that the Part 150 is irrelevant at this point noting that it is important that the ARC lend their support to the Community. Commission Meeting November 10, 2004 Mendota Heights Airport Relations Commission Commissioner Petschel stated that the potential for airport terminal expansion could change the noise impacts noting that the parameters for the sound footprint were managed by the MAC. She stated that there were lower, medium and higher projections for number of operations but MAC chose the middle projection. She noted that the new projections show the airport exceeding these projections for number of operations. Commissioner Roszak asked if there was a reaction to Council Member Duggan’s suggestion for a 5-10% reduction in noise levels. Council Member Duggan stated that the NOC was not very comfortable with the suggestion and reviewed. Chair Beaty thanked Mr. Duggan for the update noting that the ARC appreciates his attendance and suggestions. Council Member Duggan stated that the next NOC meeting is scheduled for November 18, 2004. He stated that a new set of bylaws would be reviewed and discussed at the next NOC meeting that could provide a stronger sense of ownership noting that the NOC would also be setting their agenda for the year. He reviewed the NOC pre-meeting process with the Commission stating that Vern Wilcox would be chairing the next NOC meeting. He stated that he would try to attend the next NOC meeting and assured the ARC that they would receive copies of all NOC meeting minutes going forward. B. Guy Heide Update Mr. Heide provided the Commission with a brief update on the Rogers Lake East Neighborhood Groups activities. C. NWA Terminal Proposal Chair Beaty stated that City Administrator Danielson has drafted a letter of invitation to Governor Pawlenty to attend an ARC meeting. He reviewed the draft letter with the Commission and asked for their input and feedback. Commissioner Petschel suggested stating that the ARC’s main concern is the increase on capacity and suggested striking the sentence about insulating homes. 2004-11-10 Airport Relations Commission Minutes.txt[1/25/2018 4:21:20 PM] Commissioner Roszak suggested clarifying that the ARC’s stance is based on the Noise and Environmental Impact Study and zero tolerance. He suggested striking the last sentence in the first paragraph of the letter. Council Member Duggan suggested providing several meeting dates as a schedule option. He suggested including a statement that explains that the City of Mendota Heights has created the Airport Relations Commission to address airport issues as it relates to the City of Mendota Heights. Commission Meeting November 10, 2004 Mendota Heights Airport Relations Commission The Commissioners reviewed the draft and provided City Administrator Danielson with the recommended changes for content. City Administrator Danielson stated that he would make the recommended changes and place this on the next City Council agenda for Council’s review. D. Gregg Fitzer Replacement Chair Beaty stated that Commissioner Fitzer is not seeking reappointment. He noted that Commissioner Fitzer, an airline pilot, has been with the Commission from the beginning. He stated that it has been great having Commissioner Fitzer’s perspective, as an airline pilot, on the Commission noting that his perspective has been a real asset. Council Member Duggan suggested Jack Huber and John Campbell as potential ARC candidates noting that Mr. Campbell is a retired airline pilot. He stated that he would contact both of them to determine their potential interest in becoming a member of the ARC. Commissioner Roszak stated that he is aware of a neighbor who is interested adding that Council Member Krebsbach mentioned that the head of the League of Women Voter’s is also interested. Chair Beaty suggested that the open position be publicly advertised. City Administrator Danielson agreed stating that all Commissions would be contacted to identify all openings. He stated that all open seats would be advertised in the newspaper and reviewed the process with the Commission. Chair Beaty asked when the announcements for the openings would be advertised. Council Member Duggan explained that the announcements are made in the November/December timeframe, with interviews in January and ready to take office in February. E. Updates for Introduction Packet Chair Beaty stated that the Commission has been provided updates for the ARC Introduction Book. He stated that the updates included: Table of Contents #7 – Latest issue of the Airport Noise Report. #13 – September 2004, Technical Advisors Report #14 – September 2004, Eagan/Mendota Heights Corridor Report F. City Administrator Update City Administrator Danielson provided the Commission with a brief update on the following: Commission Meeting November 10, 2004 Mendota Heights Airport Relations Commission Operations north of the 90-degree corridor boundary. Council reviewed the NOC goals. 2004-11-10 Airport Relations Commission Minutes.txt[1/25/2018 4:21:20 PM] Acknowledge Receipt of Various Reports/Correspondence: The Commission briefly reviewed the following documents: Chair Beaty noted that flight operations have increased considerably in comparison to last year. Commissioner Petschel referenced the September 2004 Technical Advisors Report, page one, shows a high percentage of air noise complaints coming from Mendota Heights in the area north of Highway 110. She reviewed with the Commission noting that this is a new phenomenon. a. September 2004 ANOM Technical Advisor’s Report. b. September 2004 ANOM Eagan/Mendota Heights Departure Corridor Analysis. c. Airport Noise Report, October 8, 2004. d. Airport Noise Report, October 22, 2004. e. Airport Noise Report, October 29, 2004. f. MAC Letter regarding 2005-2011 Capital Improvement Program. g. MAC Letter regarding Environmental Review Process. h. Letter from Cindy Greene regarding ARC Meeting, dated November 9, 2004. OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS Council Member Duggan asked if the ARC had received a copy of the Part 150 documents. He suggested that the ARC contact Chad Leqve for copy of the report noting that the report is also available for download from the MAC website. Chair Beaty suggested including a magnet in the next City mailing that would encourage Residents to contact the MAC with any noise concerns or issues. Council Member Duggan stated that he would also talk to the local Cable TV Company in regards to incorporating a small notice for Residents that would include contact information. The Commission agreed, by consensus, to adjourn the meeting at 9:10 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Bonita Sullivan TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.