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CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA AIRPORT RELATIONS COMMISSION MINUTES August 9, 2006 The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Airport Relations Commission was held on Wednesday, August 9, 2006, at 7:00 p.m., in the Large Conference Room at City Hall,
1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights, Minnesota.
The following Commissioners were present: Bill Dunn, Vern Edstrom, Robin Ehrlich,
Brian Linnihan, Liz Petschel, Dave Sloan and Ellsworth Stein. Jim Danielson, City Administrator and Bonita Sullivan, Recorder. Ms. Sullivan took the minutes. Not Present: Commissioners: Approval of Minutes A. Review and Approval of the April 12, 2006, Airport Relations Commission
Minutes.
Chair Petschel had the following corrections:
• Page 2, Unfinished and New Business, NOC Update, First Bullet, should read: ‘The next Public Input meeting is scheduled for April 25, 2006 at 7:00 p.m.’ • Page 2, Unfinished and New Business, NOC Update, Second Bullet, should read: ‘NOC Cities Meeting’ not NOC Community Meeting. • Page 2, Unfinished and New Business, NOC Update, Fourth Bullet, reads: ‘Controlled Decent’, should read: ‘Controlled Descent’. • Page 2, Unfinished and New Business, NOC Update, Fourth Bullet, should read:
‘Referenced a follow-up letter regarding controlled descent stating that it is not
definite but the Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport is being considered as the possible
center for the testing process.’
• Page 2, Unfinished and New Business, NOC Update, First Paragraph, Fourth and Fifth Sentence reads: ‘She stated that Mr. Wilcox was also elected as the Regional ‘Director’ for the N.O.I.S.E. Organization.’ Should read: ‘She stated that Mr. Wilcox was also elected as the Regional ‘Representative’ for the N.O.I.S.E. Organization.’ • Page 2, Unfinished and New Business, NOC Update, Third Paragraph, Third, Fourth and Fifth Sentence reads: ‘She noted that the school would have to acknowledge that the building would pass as unintenuated for noise.’; should read: ‘She noted that the
school would have to acknowledge that the building would ‘be sold un-attenuated’ for
noise.’
• Page 3, Unfinished and New Business, NOC Update, First Paragraph, First Sentence,
should read: ‘Chair Petschel noted that the FAA is currently refusing to insulate some of the buildings that are located in the 65 DNL block. She explained that this is Commission Meeting August 9, 2006 Mendota Heights Airport Relations Commission because the FAA feels that some of the buildings are not located in the identified DNL block but some of the buildings are.’ • Page 3, Unfinished and New Business, NOC Update, Second Paragraph, second sentence reads: ‘number of planes taking of’; should read: ‘number of planes taking
off’.
• Page 6, Other Comments or Concerns, First Bullet, reads: ‘Pioneer Press is
sponsoring a ‘Sedoka’ contest on Saturday morning.’; should read: ‘Pioneer Press is
sponsoring a ‘Sodoku’ contest on Saturday morning.’ Commissioner Edstrom had the following correction: • Page 5, Reports and Correspondence, Third Paragraph, Sixth and Seventh Sentence reads: ‘Ms. Green clarified that Northwest Airlines has not reduced the number of flights arriving at ‘10:00’ p.m.’; should read: ‘Ms. Green clarified that Northwest Airlines has not reduced the number of flights arriving ‘after 10:30’ p.m.’
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• Page 5, Reports and Correspondence, Third Paragraph, Fifth Sentence reads: ‘largest ‘nighttime’ carrier’; should read: ‘largest ‘night’ carrier’. A motion was made by Commissioner Sloan, second by Commissioner Stein, to approve the April 12, 2006 minutes as amended. Motion carried 7-0.
B. Review and Approval of the July 12, 2006, Airport Relations Commission
Minutes.
Chair Petschel had the following corrections: • Page 1, Unfinished and New Business, Review ARC Brochure, Fourth Paragraph reads: ‘manufactured ‘for’ stage 3 and 4’; should read: ‘manufactured stage 3 and 4’. • Page 2, Joint Meeting with Eagan ARC, Fifth Paragraph reads: ‘Chair Petschel stated that Diane Miller, Assistant City Administrator for the City of Eagan, had discussed bringing this issue to the City NOC meeting’; should read: ‘Chair Petschel stated that
Assistant City Administrator Miller of Eagan had discussed the issue of bringing
MAC representation to the NOC meeting’.
• Page 2, Joint Meeting with Eagan ARC, Sixth Paragraph, Last Sentence should read:
‘He stated that it is his belief that it would be a better outcome if ‘we’ coordinate with the City of Eagan.’ • Page 2, Joint Meeting with Eagan ARC, Ninth Paragraph should read: ‘Chair Petschel agreed noting that the Cities of Bloomington, Richfield, Eagan and Mendota Heights are the only cities left in the 65 DNL ‘without a representative appointed to the MAC.’ • Page 3, NOC Update, Third Bullet, reads: ‘Will do a follow-up letter to the FAA
with regards to the night time flights.’; should read: ‘Will do a follow-up with the
NOC with regards to the night time flights.’
• Page 3, NOC Update, First Paragraph, Second Sentence reads: ‘whereas ‘other areas
it’ is from 11:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m.’; should read: ‘whereas ‘the MAC’ is from 11:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m.’ Commission Meeting August 9, 2006 Mendota Heights Airport Relations Commission • Page 3, NOC Update, Second Paragraph, Fourth Sentence reads: ‘video tapped’; should read: ‘video taped’. • Page 3, NOC Update, Second Paragraph, Last Sentence reads: ‘She stated that Mr. Otto noted that the City of Minneapolis is doing a day and nighttime operations analysis and the report would be available for review at the end of July.’; should read:
‘She stated that Mr. Otto noted that the City of Minneapolis is doing a day and
nighttime operations analysis, and the Eagan study of the impact of 17-35 would be
ready at the end of July.’
• Page 3, Reports and Correspondence, First Paragraph, Second Sentence reads: ‘Mendota Heights had 27.1-percent of the ‘flights’ last year’; should read: ‘Mendota Heights had 27.1-percent of the ‘May Departures’ last year’. • Page 3, Reports and Correspondence, First Paragraph, Fifth Sentence reads: ‘during May 2005 and ‘only’ 800 during May 2006’; should read: ‘during May 2005 and 800 during May 2006’.
Commissioner Edstrom had the following correction:
• Page 3, NOC Update, First Bullet reads: ‘The 190-degree heading is becoming quite
a problem’; should read: ‘The 190-degree heading ‘after take-offs from runway 17’
are becoming quite a problem’. A motion was made by Commissioner Edstrom, second by Commissioner Sloan, to Approve the July 12, 2006 minutes as amended. Motion carried 7-0. Public Comments
NONE
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Unfinished/New Business A. Prepare Agenda for Meeting with State Legislators City Administrator Danielson stated that he has contacted the Assistants for Senator Jim
Metzen and Representative Rick Hanson noting that Representative Hanson’s Assistant
has indicated that his schedule is clear but is waiting for confirmation. He has not heard
back from Senator Metzen’s Assistant noting that he would update the Commission when
the schedules have been confirmed. The Commission held a general discussion to identify and prioritize the following agenda items for the meeting with the Legislators: • MAC Representation. • Clarification of the relationships and roles with the MAC • Discuss the joint Mendota Heights/Eagan ARC meeting and educate them on the
impacts from new runway.
• 20/20 Airport Plan.
• Clarify the legislative perspective on current and future airport issues. Commission Meeting August 9, 2006
Mendota Heights Airport Relations Commission • Discuss the potential impact the governor’s election could have on airport issues. • Have the Representatives clarify their stance on the current issues with Northwest Airlines. B. Review of Updated ARC Brochure
The Commission briefly reviewed the ARC brochure and provided revisions to the final
draft.
C. Update – NOC Meeting Chair Petschel provided the Commission with the following update on the July 19th meeting at the MAC: • Clarified with Tim Butell, chief pilot for Northwest Airlines, that the pilots are not suing the airport over 17-35. • Merland Otto is refining and updating the DVD for the Airport 101 presentation. He
stated that he would let the ARC know when the DVD is available. Chair Petschel
suggested viewing the DVD at an ARC meeting.
• Main topic of discussion was the 190-degree heading take-offs from Runway 17.
• City of Burnsville discussed their frustrations with the operation. They want the Tower to use the 230-degree heading off Runway 17, placing the planes over the river valley. • Several good handouts were provided that helped to clarify. • The Tower has indicated that they would never use this heading. The reason given for not being able to use the 230-degree heading is due to the bow tie affect, which is a piece of airspace reserved for airplanes taking off from St. Cloud, St. Paul and Flying
Cloud airports that have to fly over MSP. She provided the Commission with an
example noting that if the heading is changed these flights could end up with
dangerously close encounters with commercial planes.
• The Tower is currently experimenting with a 200-degree heading in the hopes that this would help provide some relief to the Burnsville area. She provided examples of the 12L and 17-35 departures. • Discussed new MAC website – provided them with ARC’s feedback. • Kathleen Nelson did a presentation on the increase in nighttime operations – She stated that a new TSA requirement was implemented within the last year requiring that all planes must be completely inspected before morning takeoffs. She stated that
in order to keep the planes on time they come in earlier, before 6:00 a.m., which
counts as a nighttime operation when it actually isn’t. She stated that this is one of
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the reasons why nighttime operations appear to have increased. • Still in the process of reviewing how much the TSA inspections are impacting the numbers. Numbers will be shared when study is done. • The next Cities NOC meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, August 16, 2006 at 2:00 p.m. at the Bloomington City Hall.
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Acknowledge Receipt of Various Reports/Correspondence:
The Commission briefly reviewed the following documents: Commissioner Sloan suggested putting together a tracking tool that would provide a better visual for the Commission that would help them to understand the trends. Chair Petschel explained that the ARC has asked the MAC to do this in the past and it was determined that there was not enough staff time to put together that level of detail.
She suggested, as a future agenda item, that the Commission take the time to identify the
most important items that the ARC would like to track from the Technical Advisor’s
Reports and Airport Noise Reports and decide on a process that could be used to track the
information. Chair Petschel suggested inviting Chad Leqve to a future ARC meeting to discuss some of the current airport issues and concerns. She stated that the Commissioners could also discuss the items and information that they would like to track from the information provided by the MAC.
a. Technical Advisor’s Report – June 2006.
b. Eagan/Mendota Heights Departure Corridor Analysis – June 2006.
c. Airport Noise Report, July 12, 2006.
d. Airport Noise Report, July 26, 2006 e. Airport Noise Report, August 2, 2006 f. Memo from Chad E. Leqve OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS Chair Petschel provided the Commission with a brief update on a discussion she had with
Mr. Guy Heide, a member of the Rogers Lake East Initiative.
The Commission agreed, by consensus, to adjourn the meeting at 8:29 p.m.
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