2011-07-05 City Council minutesJuly 5, 2011
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CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Held Tuesday, July 5, 2011
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the regular meeting of the City Council, City of Mendota
Heights, Minnesota was held at 7:00 p.m., at City Hall, 1101 Victoria Curve, Mendota Heights,
Minnesota.
CALL TO ORDER Mayor Krebsbach called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
The following members were present: Councilmembers
Duggan, Povolny, Petschel and Vitelli.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Council, the audience, and staff recited the Pledge of
Allegiance.
Mayor Krebsbach presented the agenda for adoption as
presented. Councilmember Duggan moved adoption of the
agenda as presented.
Councilmember Petschel seconded the motion.
Councilmember Duggan moved approval of the minutes of
the regular meeting held on June 21, 2011.
Councilmember Petschel seconded the motion.
CONSENT CALENDAR Mayor Krebsbach presented the consent calendar and
explained the procedure for discussion and approval.
Councilmember Duggan moved approval of the consent
calendar as presented and authorization for execution of
any necessary documents contained therein, pulling items
c. Adopt a "RESOLUTION APPROVING A STATE OF
MINNESOTA JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT WITH
THE CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS ON BEHALF OF
IT'S CITY ATTORNEY AND POLICE DEPARTMENT"
and f Approve a Sign Permit for 1345 Mendota Heights
Road (Brown College)
a. Acknowledgement of the June 2011 Building Activity
Report
b. Adopt a "RESOLUTION ACKNOWLEDGING THE
RECEIPT OF GIFTS FOR THE MENDOTA
HEIGHTS PARKS CELEBRATION"
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
APPROVE A SIGN PERMIT FOR
1345 MENDOTA HEIGHTS ROAD
(BROWN COLLEGE)
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c. Adopt a "RESOLUTION APPROVING A STATE OF
MINNESOTA JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT WITH
THE CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS ON BEHALF
OF IT'S CITY ATTORNEY AND POLICE
DEPARTMENT"
d. Adopt a "RESOLUTION APPROVING FINAL
PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS AND
AUTHORIZING ADVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS FOR
2011 SANITARY SEWER REHABILITATION
PROJECT"
e. Approve the Purchase of an Air Compressor from
Aspen Equipment at a Cost of $24,043.67
f. Approve a Sign Permit for 1345 Mendota Heights Road
(Brown College)
g. Approve Purchase Orders for the Purchase of a SRO
Vehicle from Elk River Ford ($23,040) and Emergency
Automotive Technologies ($4,500)
h. Approve the Contractors List
i. Approve the Claims List
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Councilmember Duggan complimented the police chief
on a document that is just one word short of perfect and
moved for adoption of a "RESOLUTION APPROVING
A STATE OF MINNESOTA JOINT POWERS
AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF MENDOTA
HEIGHTS ON BEHALF OF IT'S CITY ATTORNEY
AND POLICE DEPARTMENT"
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Assistant to the City Administrator Jake Sedlacek
explained that there are two places on the agenda
where Brown College is seeking signs. This first item is
on the consent agenda because all of the signs, except two,
are compliant with city code and, as with normal sign
permits, just needs council review.
The council package shows everything. The two items to
be discussed later as a planning application include the
monument signs on Mendota Heights Road and on
Northland Drive. Everything else within the application
package, the signs on the building, the way finding signs,
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the parking signs, are all code compliant and just simply
here for the standard review by the city council.
Mayor Krebsbach asked if the artist's representations are
just in this packet or are they in both. Assistant to City
Administrator Sedlacek replied that they are in both
packets.
Councilmember Duggan moved to Approve a Sign Permit
for 1345 Mendota Heights Road (Brown College).
Ayes: 5 Councilmember Povolny seconded the motion.
Nays: 0
PUBLIC COMMENTS There were none.
RENEWAL OF AN ON -SALE WINE City Clerk Sandie Thone explained this is a public hearing
INSTITUTIONAL LICENSE FOR for Le Cordon Bleu's renewal of an on -sale institutional
WESTERN CULINARY INSTITUTE wine license. Their building at 1315 Mendota Heights
LTD./LE CORDON BLEU COLLEGE OF Road is yet to be completed so they are seeking renewal
CULINARY ARTS on their existing license for 1440 Northland Drive.
Councilmember Vitelli moved to close the public hearing.
Ayes: 5 Councilmember Duggan seconded the motion.
Nays: 0
Mayor Krebsbach asked if this is now extended to the
council's next meeting. City Clerk Thone replied no, this
is just a one public hearing for a renewal.
Mayor Krebsbach asked what City Clerk Thone
recommended. City Clerk Thone recommended that if
there is no comments then close the public hearing and
approve the renewal of the on -sale wine institutional
license for Le Cordon Bleu.
Councilmember Duggan moved to Approve the Renewal of
an On -sale Wine Institutional License for Western Culinary
Institute Ltd./Le Cordon Bleu College of Culinary Arts.
Ayes: 5 Councilmember Povolny seconded the motion.
Nays: 0
2011 NPDES ANNUAL HEARING Mayor Krebsbach explained that this is a required annual
meeting for NPDES Phase II Stormwater Permit for
Municipal Separate Storm Sewer System.
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City Engineer Ryan Ruzek explained that it is required to
hold an annual meeting. The Minnesota Pollution Agency
administers a program, which is required from the
Environmental Protection Agency. So this is a federally
mandated program.
All cities and entities discharging stormwater to public
waters must complete six minimum control measures as
part of their annual permit. Mendota Heights has their
permit program set up to do Public Education and
Outreach, Public Participation and Involvement, Solicit
Discharge Detection and Elimination, Construction Site
Run -off and Control, Post - Construction Run -off Control,
and Pollution Prevention and Good Housekeeping.
Public Education and Outreach: Staff uses the Heights
Highlights, Blue Thumb Seminars in conjunction with our
local watershed management organizations, and Dakota
County's Soil & Water Conservation District. Staff also
works with the Lower Mississippi Watershed Management
Organization, which we do run a "Keep It Clean" video on
the local cable channel. City Engineer Ruzek believes this
video ran over 2,000 times last year. Staff also supplies
handouts in the city hall lobby and has homeowner guides
and other information on the city website.
Public Participation and Involvement: Staff answers
resident complaints and concerns by meeting with residents
on -site and discussing the improvements that they are
looking to do themselves and staff is an active participant
in the Gun Club Lake and Lower Mississippi Watershed
Management Organizations.
Solicit Discharge Detection and Elimination: Staff inspects
20% of the stormwater outfalls, ponds, and wetlands
annually, so everything gets inspected over a 5 -year period.
Staff also participates in the Dakota County Wetland
Health Evaluation Program (WHEP) and passing of the
Stormwater Ordinance in 2009 to have an ordinance in
place for enforcement for any illegal discharges.
Construction Site Run -off and Control: Staff developed a
Land Disturbance Guidance Document, which they supply
with all building permits as they are issued. Staff inspects
development projects periodically as they are happening.
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City Engineer Ruzek believes last year the only large
project was the Mendota Plaza improvements.
Post - Construction Run -off Control: Staff has been
attempting to construct many rain gardens. This year they
replanted one rain garden. There are below ground
infiltration systems that were installed on Simard Street last
year. Staff also reviewed building permits and
development applications for compliance with the city
ordinances.
Pollution Prevention and Good Housekeeping: Staff
maintains a map of the city's storm sewer system; annually
clean the sump manholes; and annual inspection of the
stormwater discharge points. Staff is also in the process of
initiating a pond management program.
City Engineer Ruzek also presented some good
housekeeping issues for homeowners.
• Fertilize smart (phosphorous free)
• Sweep up any extra fertilizer that spills onto hard
surfaces to prevent it from washing into nearby lakes,
streams, and storm sewers
• Do not blow grass clippings into the street, keep them
on the lawn
• Re -use run -off and direct downspouts into a rain garden
or rain barrel, use rainwater to water lawn and garden
• "Scoop the Poop ". Don't leave animal waste in the
yard, grab a bag when you grab a leash and pick up
after your pets
• Use chemicals wisely — read and apply according to
their labels, consider alternatives or natural remedies
• Keep a healthy lawn — aerate, feed bare patches, mow at
a higher setting
• Plant a rain garden
• Replace turf with native plants
• Reduce footprint, replace stone pavements with pavers
or pervious pavement
• Adopt a storm drain — keep seeds, grass, leaves off of
the storm drains
• Vegetative buffers around ponds
Councilmember Duggan asked how many calls the city gets
on a monthly basis, or in the summertime for things like the
rain gardens. Is there much interest in that? City Engineer
Ruzek replied that as far as rain gardens, they probably get
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one question per year. There are approximately 15 — 20
rain gardens around town and a couple of those residents
will periodically call and ask about maintenance issues.
Councilmember Duggan asked, with the reconstruction of
Wagon Wheel, has there been any interest expressed. City
Engineer Ruzek answered that there has been one
homeowner that has expressed interest. He believes two
other homeowners expressed interest but the topography of
their lawns and yards would not make one feasible for that
location.
Councilmember Duggan also asked if there is a steady
drain on the brochures that are available. City Engineer
Ruzek replied that right now they are only available on the
website. The watershed management organizations that
the city is involved with post an annual newsletter that is
kept in the city hall lobby. Those newsletters have
disappeared but he is unable to say how fast.
Councilmember Duggan asked if some of the steps that
were just presented would be available if a resident came
into city hall. City Engineer Ruzek replied that yes that
would be available along with additional information that
there is no room for in the lobby.
Councilmember Duggan asked about curbs. City Engineer
Ruzek answered that curbs help to keep the run -off in the
street where it is directed to an environmentally friendly
sump manhole, which can be cleaned annually, versus
going directly to a lake, stream, or pond.
Councilmember Duggan moved to close the public hearing
and recognized the presentation and the work of the city in
the regard of keeping the lakes, streams, and ponds clean
through the stormwater system.
Ayes: 5 Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Nays: 0
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Case 2011 -11: Paul Elias Assistant to City Administrator Jake Sedlacek explained
2242 Lexington Avenue. "RESOLUTION this is a request for a conditional use permit for a detached
APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE garage and a variance for a detached garage greater than
PERMIT FOR A DETACHED GARAGE 750 square feet. The subject parcel is on Lexington
AT 2242 LEXINGTON AVENUE" and just north of Wagon Wheel Trail, the second residential lot
"RESOLUTION DENYING A
VARIANCE FOR A DETACHED
GARAGE LARGER THAN 750
SQUARE FEET AT 2242 LEXINGTON
AVENUE"
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to the north. The site plan, as proposed, that the applicant
Mr. Elias has provided includes removing an existing
single car detached garage and then constructing a new
garage. He is seeking a garage that is 24 feet deep by 36
feet wide, which is larger than allowed in the detached
garage code, which is for 750 square feet.
The Planning Commission had a lengthy discussion on this
matter, primarily around whether the applicant provided
evidence of a practical difficulty that required a garage
larger than 750 square feet and if there were conditions on
the site that were not of the owner's own making.
Ultimately, the Planning Commission did go along with the
planner's recommendation. They have recommended
approval of the conditional use permit for a detached
accessory garage up to 750 square feet and have
recommended denial of the variance off of the findings
listed. This was a public hearing at two meetings and there
were no comments on the matter.
Mayor Krebsbach stated that she has read this over and is
in agreement with the Planning Commission's
recommendation.
Councilmember Duggan asked if there were, in the
ordinance language in the past, a preference on the part of
the city that garages would be no larger than approximately
2/3 of the size of a house; that a garage should not
dominate and be larger than the house. Assistant to City
Administrator Sedlacek replied that is not a codified bit of
language. He does think that something would be in the
back of minds when thinking about the character of the
neighborhood.
Councilmember Povolny asked for clarification on what the
applicant is requesting, as there is a list of options supplied
by the applicant. Assistant to City Administrator Sedlacek
explained that this is exactly what the Planning
Commission wrestled with at their first meeting on this.
The applicant provided a list of options with what they
preferred, but then was not able to clear or articulate that
for the Planning Commission. So it was tabled at the May
meeting, came back to the June meeting where the
applicant had defined their preferred option as being the
one that was then included in the council's packet. It is a
three -car garage with a loft in the upper level for cold
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storage. This is the option the applicant is seeking to
construct. They are proposing to do lap siding to match
the existing home, they are intending to side both the
garage and the home with the same material.
Councilmember Povolny asked if there is anything the
council can do. He feels that a garage is important but it
has to match the house. Is there anything that can be put in
the plans to make this architecturally; that the house will
match the garage? Councilmember Duggan pointed out
that this is already in the resolution.
Mayor Krebsbach explained that if the council denies the
request, the applicant has a certain amount that he is
working with, which is 750 square feet, and then he can
design the garage. One of the things is that, at least as long
as she has been on the council, the council does not
approve the loft above the garage. She then asked if it is
clear in the resolution that there is to be no loft if this
application is denied. Assistant to City Administrator
Sedlacek replied that the requirement used in regards to a
loft over a garage is that it has to be under a maximum
height of 15 feet. The applicant is submitting a proposal,
including an illustration, which shows that with the loft, the
structure would be less than 15 feet of maximum height.
So the proposal right now is a three -car garage with a loft,
which is height wise compliant but in terms of area it is
larger than 750 square feet.
Councilmember Povolny stated that realistically a person
could not really stand up in it. In the proposal, it states that
the ceiling is approximately nine feet. Realistically it
would be an attic, no one would be able to stand up in it.
Assistant to City Administrator Sedlacek referred to the
document and explained that there is a height of 99 inches
for the height inside the loft, which equates to eight feet
three inches at the peak.
Mayor Krebsbach explained that this is what the applicant
is requesting. If the council supports the Planning
Commission and denies this request, the applicant is also
getting approval to do a detached garage, which fits the
ordinance of 750 square feet. Mayor Krebsbach asked, in
those 750 square feet, is he free to design the garage
interior as he wishes, as long as it isn't a loft that would be
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occupied. Assistant to City Administrator Sedlacek
replied that this is correct.
Mr. Paul Elias, the applicant, addressed the council and
stated that he looked into many different types of garages
and the one style that he found coordinates with the house
structure and the roof structure. It is his intention to match
the house the best he can. He did request 36 by 24 but can
scale it down to 32 by 24 but that is 18 feet beyond the 750.
He supposes he can scale it down to 31 by 24. He has a
long, narrow lot and has been thinking about this for many
years, trying to figure out how to make it work.
Mayor Krebsbach stated that garages are one of the city's
more detailed elements. She has sat through many garage
votes. However, the Planning Commission recommends
that the applicant can have a detached garage but they are
also recommending, and she is in support that it stays at
750 square feet.
Councilmember Vitelli asked what is the intended use of
the loft. Mr. Elias replied that it is primarily for storage.
Councilmember Vitelli asked if there would be a stairway.
Mr. Elias replied that the print has a stairway on the inside
but he is hoping to put it on the outside of the garage, away
from the neighbor so no one would see it. The original 36
by 24 plan has the stairway on the inside, but if the
stairway is put on the outside then it removes the four feet,
making the plan 32 by 24. However, he will be making it
31 by 24 and still putting the stairs on the outside.
Mayor Krebsbach stated that it is her understanding that the
council does not approve lofts in a garage. There was a
big loft issue a long time ago.
Councilmember Duggan suggested, in relation to the
outside stairs, which he would not support without seeing a
design and drawings, a floor could be put in loft -wise (if
you want to use that word) with a pull-down stepping. It is
easy, would save a lot of money, and would use less space.
But since there is no design showing where these steps are
and how they would impact anything, he would be
uncomfortable moving forward with this. But he knows
that anyone can get an attic floor that would have pull -
down steps so it can be reached from inside the garage.
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Mayor Krebsbach stated that if the council approves this,
there is no outside stairwell. Councilmember Duggan said
that since there is no design showing the stairwell, the
council couldn't approve what they do not have in front of
them. Mr. Elias then asked if he could have a 32 by 24
foot garage. Mayor Krebsbach replied that she would not
support that.
Councilmember Vitelli also stated that he is not
comfortable with an outside stairwell because that also
implies a door. He believes the stairs should be kept
inside.
Mr. Elias replied that having the stairs on the inside would
take even more space away. He would want a four -foot
wide stairway and a big enough area to be able to maneuver
things around up in the attic.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that, unfortunately there is an
ordinance in the city and 750 is the max. Other residents
have dealt with that. Unless Mr. Elias can indicate some
unique difficulty, other than just wanting more space, there
is not much for the council to support in this request.
Mr. Elias pointed out that his neighbor has a 1,100 square
foot garage that was built within the last 10 years. When
talking about the uniqueness of the area and setting
precedence, garages in the neighborhood have already been
built that are larger than 750 square feet. He is not trying
to change anything; he just has a unique situation where he
needs a storage area.
Councilmember Duggan asked staff and/or the city attorney
to visit and help Mr. Elias understand the content of the
variance since he mentioned it, and what are the challenges,
what are the rules and regulations about variances.
Councilmember Petschel stated that she had attended the
Planning Commission meeting and the Planning
Commission, both during the meeting and afterwards, had
an extensive discussion with Mr. Elias explaining about the
variance. The conclusion on the part of the Planning
Commission is that the hardship is really created by the
amount of stuff Mr. Elias has as opposed to any kind of
extreme or unique difficulty with the loft.
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Councilmember Duggan explained that he just wanted to
have the attorney talk to the council , since this is a whole
brand new topic and subject. There has not been a
variance request since the state changed the rules and
regulations.
City Attorney Tami Diehm stated that Councilmember
Duggan is correct in that there has recently been a change
in the state law. The council members received a short
summary from the planning staff. Following a Supreme
Court decision last year, councils really stepped back and
have not even been issuing any variances in most
municipalities throughout the state because of the way in
which the court had interpreted that hardship standard.
The legislature this year did add some clarification and
allows applicants to show that they have practical
difficulties, which is not quite as high of a threshold to
meet as it was under the Supreme Court's interpretation.
But the council is correct and needs to look at the character
of the property itself and not at a situation that is created by
the individual factors that may be personal to the applicant.
She believes the council is using a proper analysis in
looking at the property.
With respect to the conditional use permit, if council would
like to add a seventh condition, council does have language
in there right now about a specific site plan or plan
alternative that must be selected by the applicant.
However, she recommends that council add a condition
number seven, which clarifies that nothing shall extend
beyond the footprint of that building so that there is no
confusion about an external staircase.
Mayor Krebsbach added Item 7: Nothing shall extend
beyond the exterior of the building.
Councilmember Povolny asked for clarification in that the
applicant will try to make the garage match the house. Mr.
Elias replied that everything would be color, material, and
esthetically coordinated.
Councilmember Duggan suggested that the conditions be
read for Mr. Elias and it is on the record that the council
has touched on all of the points.
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Mayor Krebsbach read the resolution, if approved, which
would give Mr. Elias a conditional use permit for a
detached garage that would be 750 square feet:
1. The city approves the requested accessory structure
area variance or the applicant revises his request to
meet the 750 square foot maximum floor area.
2. A specific plan alternative be selected by the applicant.
Such plans drawn to scale shall be modified to specify
proposed finish materials, colors, and structures.
3. The garage shall not exceed 15 feet in height.
4. The garage match the principal building in color and
show compatibility in materials.
5. The applicant consider matching the garage roof style
and roof pitch with that of the principal building.
6. The existing detached accessory structure on the site be
removed and reestablished in turf or pavement as part
of the project.
7. There will be no extension beyond the footprint of the
building.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he does not feel
comfortable supporting this at this point because of the lack
of definition and the obvious unhappiness of the applicant.
He is unsure of the best thing to do; however, he would like
to see the applicant come back with a picture of what this
garage is going to look like. If Councilmember Vitelli had
not asked the question about loft versus attic, the council
would not even know about the outside stairway.
Councilmember Vitelli continued by stating that the
applicant is not happy and he would like to see the
applicant happy with the conclusion. Therefore, he
suggested Mr. Elias come back in two weeks and provide
some detail to define exactly what he is going to build.
Councilmember Povolny expressed his agreement with
Councilmember Vitelli. If the 15 -foot height restriction is
maintained, then the only storage space attainable is a
crawlable attic, not a walkable second floor.
Mayor Krebsbach stated she would like to determine if
there is a motion to approve this conditional use permit
with Item 7. It does say that before Mr. Elias can begin to
build he has to come in with specific plans submitted to
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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staff. Or if there is a motion to table this until he presents
his plan of what he would like.
Mayor Krebsbach made it clear that she does not want Mr.
Elias coming back with a plan that extends that roof so he
can have an attic.
Councilmember Vitelli stated again that he would like for
the applicant to be happy, he would like for the resolution
to have more definition, and he would be happy to support
it then; however, he does not feel comfortable now. He
asked the city attorney if the council should table or what
should they do. City Attorney Tami Diehm replied that
one suggestion would be — there are really two issues in
front of the council — the conditional use permit and the
variance. It sounds like, based on the discussion, that there
is support to follow the Planning Commission's
recommendation, which would be to deny the variance. If
that is something council is comfortable with, one option
would be to vote tonight to deny the variance and then ask
the applicant to come back based on that denial with a plan
that council could support for the conditional use permit.
The conditions in the conditional use permit talk about
whether the council approves or denies the variance. If the
council acts on the variance this evening, perhaps Mr.
Elias can come back in two weeks with a plan that meets
that 750 square feet, meets the height, and the council could
look at it and feel more comfortable approving.
Councilmember Vitelli moved to Deny the Request for
Variance.
Councilmember Duggan seconded the motion.
Mayor Krebsbach explained to Mr. Elias that he at least has
a clear decision from the council. He can come back and
council will consider a conditional use permit that does not
require a variance. If he wants a detached garage, which is
a conditional use, for 750 square feet, he can present a plan.
Mayor Krebsbach asked for clarification that Mr. Elias
does not have to go back to the Planning Commission.
City Attorney Diehm replied that this is correct. Next
there would be a motion to table the conditional use permit
request and table that to the next meeting.
Councilmember Vitelli moved to Table the Application for
a Conditional Use Permit to give the applicant time to
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Case 2011 -13: New Cingular Wireless,
1196 Northland Drive. "RESOLUTION
APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT FOR WIRELESS FACILITY
SITING AT 1196 NORTHLAND DRIVE"
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provide good definition to what he proposes to build and
receive continued support from Public Works and the city
engineer.
Councilmember Duggan seconded the motion.
Mr. Elias stated that he has not purchased the actual plan
yet. He asked if he should spend approximately $200 to
purchase the plan to show the council how he plans to
downsize it to fit into the 750 square foot footprint.
Mayor Krebsbach replied that the council wants Mr. Elias
to present the garage he plans to build.
Councilmember Vitelli explained that what the council
needs is not a detailed plan showing two by four's, etc.
What they need is a summary sketch that he might find in
the plan, plus some indication of the doors, and some
indication of the siding. It does not have to be a big plan
that is folded out. What is currently available to the
council is not an adequate definition for what Mr. Elias has
just described.
Assistant to City Administrator Sedlacek stated that
typically what is received is a detailed plan with
dimensions on that plan. Now that the variance has been
denied, Mr. Elias will know that he will not be getting a
garage over 750 square feet and that might help him make
the decision of whether or not it is worth the investment in
plans, which show those dimensions. Staff and council do
not need building permit materials but they do need proof
of what this will look like and what the dimensions of it
will be.
Assistant to City Administrator Sedlacek explained that this
is a request to upgrade equipment on the cellular tower,
which is on the corner of Northland Drive and Highway 55.
The parcel of land is actually owned by the City of
Mendota Heights, the tower itself is owned by AT &T and
they lease the property from Mendota Heights.
The changes themselves are only to the equipment on the
top of the tower. The applicant provided full details on the
request. The applicant is seeking to replace the top set of
antenna on the tower, the mounting arms and the antenna
themselves. The maximum height is not changing. What
is changing is that instead of having single pole arms to
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mount the antennas to, the applicant is seeking to construct
a platform. It was described at the Planning Commission
as being a little bit more substantial in size with a lower
profile. So what the aesthetic difference would be for the
residents is that they would have a platform up instead of
three arms. The planner did review this application and
felt that this equipment change out was in keeping with the
code requirements for this conditional use permit for
wireless facilities.
There was a public hearing. There were no comments on
it and ultimately, the Planning Commission did go along
with the planner's recommendation to recommend approval
of the equipment change out wireless facility siting.
Councilmember Duggan asked what color is the platform.
In the past council has been concerned that platforms blend
in with the area. Assistant to City Administrator Sedlacek
replied, as mentioned in the planning materials and was
reiterated by the planning applicant, the pole will not be
changing colors. The new platform and antenna will
match the existing color.
This request meets all code and is a very straightforward
application. It is only before the council this evening
because it is within the critical area and the policy is to
have all critical area permits come before the community in
a public hearing format. It is a single story and they are
going to construct the addition on top of an existing patio
and then adding a new patio to the south of that addition.
Councilmember Vitelli moved Approve a Resolution
Approving a Conditional Use Permit for Wireless Facility
Ayes: 5
Siting at 1196 Northland Drive
Nays: 0
Councilmember Povolny seconded the motion.
Case 2011 -15: David Bergh, 996 Caren
Assistant to the City Administrator Sedlacek explained that
Court. "RESOLUTION APPROVING
this is a proposal for an addition to the rear of the home at
A CRITIAL AREA PERMIT FOR AN
996 Caren Court. This property does happen to fall within
ADDITION TO THE HOME AT 996
the critical area overlay. Anytime there is an application
CAREN COURT"
in the critical area that application is reviewed in regards to
any impact it has upon the river in terms of aesthetics and
in terms of any impact it might have to the natural resource
of the river. Typically that means any changes to
stormwater runoff.
This request meets all code and is a very straightforward
application. It is only before the council this evening
because it is within the critical area and the policy is to
have all critical area permits come before the community in
a public hearing format. It is a single story and they are
going to construct the addition on top of an existing patio
and then adding a new patio to the south of that addition.
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There was a public hearing held on this during the June
Planning Commission meeting and there were no
comments at the public hearing and ultimately the Planning
Commission went along with the planner's
recommendation to recommend approval of this critical
area permit.
The applicant, Ms. Maxine Bergh, expressed her
appreciation of city government and all of the work they
do, and she is a supporter of the critical corridor. She
found out about the critical corridor when she was on a
citizens committee fighting a very intrusive development.
That being said, this is a total waste of council's time and
their time. They have no flight line to the river. There is
a bar, two gas stations, and a huge housing development
between their property and the river. This was intrusive to
her and it is a waste of their time, the council's time, and
the contractor's. It has cost everyone money. She had to
make her point known that she thinks this is a waste.
Councilmember Duggan moved Approval of a Resolution
Approving a Critical Area Permit for an Addition to the
Ayes: 5
home at 996 Caren Court.
Nays: 0
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Mayor Krebsbach responded to Ms. Bergh's comments by
stating that they have asked to have the critical area line
pulled back because it does impact residents on Douglas,
James, and Caren Court. There has been no movement on
that request. It is an added fee and it is an added time
constraint for people that do live in it. It was designed to
keep a contiguous green bluff buffer for the river, but as
you can tell, that is not necessarily the case.
Case 2011 -16: Michael Waldman, 560
Assistant to City Administrator Sedlacek explained that this
Watersedge Terrace. "RESOLUTION
is an application for a wetlands permit for a privacy fence.
APPROVING A WETLANDS PERMIT
The applicant is seeking to construct a six -foot tall standard
FOR A FENCE AT 580 WATERSEDGE
privacy fence, board -on- board, constructed of wood, in the
TERRACE"
backyard as was illustrated on the site plan. The wetlands
permit requires that any development, which occurs within
100 feet of a wetland requires a wetland permit. This
gives council and staff a chance to review that in terms of
impact upon the wetland. The Planning Commission did
review this application at their last meeting. If anyone
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visits the site, it is noted that there is considerable
vegetation in between where the fence is proposed and the
wetland area. It is felt that this is sufficient. The city
typically recommends a minimum of 25 feet so this is a
situation where they are maintaining an adequate vegetative
strip. While there were no comments at the public hearing,
staff did receive two comments on this application by post
notification. Both of those related to the aesthetics of the
fence. This is one of those tough situations where as a
body, our authority is around the impact upon the wetland
but still wanted to have it noted in the public record that
there are two citizens that were concerned about the
aesthetic impact of this fence as it is viewed from the pond
area. There was also some concern about potential
covenant implications of a fence in this area. That resident
was made aware that the city does not get involved in a
matter with the covenant.
The Planning Commission did hold a public hearing on this
matter at their June 28 Planning Commission meeting.
There were no comments specifically at that meeting and
ultimately the commission did recommend approval of the
fence as proposed in the site plan.
Mayor Krebsbach wanted it made clear that the standard is
100 feet from a wetland. So the council would be granting
60 feet, as they would be 40 feet from the wetlands,
correct? Assistant to the Administrator Sedlacek replied
that the fence is proposed to be 60 feet from the wetland.
Councilmember Duggan commented that this is to grant a
permit and has nothing to do with distance.
Mayor Krebsbach stated that the reason the council has any
decision making authority is that they can decide if
something encroaches in that 100 foot setback in a
wetlands permit.
Assistant to Administrator Sedlacek commented that this is
not a setback per se, it is 100 feet of buffer and our level of
review is so that we can make sure that what is being
proposed does not have a negative impact, and that is
something that is considered on a case -by -case basis. The
analysis the planner used on this one is that the only impact
in regards to the wetland is the digging for the postholes
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and where that dirt may ga. So there is very minimal
impact in this situation.
Mayor Krebsbach commented that this would not be in
front of the council if they did not have some authority to
make this decision because it is a departure from that 100 -
foot setback.
City Attorney Tami Diehm wanted it made clear that there
is not any type of variance being granted it is just that
within those 100 feet the city has to approve anything that
goes on because that is considered the wetland buffer area.
Councilmember Petschel wished to have it clarified that
this is board -on -board construction of the fencing and it is
natural material; it is wood. Assistant to Administrator
Sedlacek replied that it was a little confusing with the
image that was included but the planner's memo actually
said that it was a white vinyl fence. The image did not
copy over well but it is proposed to be a wooden fence.
Councilmember Duggan commented that based on his
understanding of the ordinance that a six -foot fence is
allowable in their backyard. Although to him it is
intrusive, but wanted to establish that a six-foot fence is
permitted. Assistant to Administrator Sedlacek replied
that this is correct. Councilmember Duggan also asked if
this fence has the 30% opacity that is required in the
ordinance as well. Assistant to Administrator Sedlacek
answered that it has been recognized by staff for quite some
time that a board -on -board construction does give the 30%
openness.
Councilmember Vitelli suggested that the condition that the
fence be wood be added to the wetlands permit. Mayor
Krebsbach replied that the application states that the fence
will be constructed of wood. Assistant to Administrator
Sedlacek stated that in the Letter of Intent, it is stated by
the applicant that this fence will be constructed of wood
materials.
Councilmember Petschel asked if the primary objection on
the part of the neighbors was aesthetic and obstruction.
Mayor Krebsbach commented that there is a neighbor in
attendance that can speak to that question.
Councilmember Petschel stated that there was more than
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one letter and she just wanted it clarified. Assistant to
Administrator Sedlacek replied that the other neighbor did
not provide a name or address; they live across the pond
and were unhappy about the fact that they would possibly
be looking at this high fence instead of a rear yard.
Mr. Carl Cummins, 584 Watersedge Terrace, commented
that the applicant moved in several months ago and they
have had several very cordial conversations across their
front yards. During the course of the conversations he
mentioned that he might want to build a fence and Mr.
Cummins asked to be informed of when it was to be
constructed and given an opportunity to look at the design.
The applicant chose not to do that and the Cummins were
out of the country when the notices were sent out. They
first became aware of this a few days before the council
meeting. Mr. Cummins does object to the design of the
proposed fence, as it is intrusive on his property. He was
also involved in drafting the covenants for Copperfield and
is aware of the reasons why there were restrictions placed
on building fences of this type, or any type, adjacent to
wetlands. He feels that this is not in keeping with the spirit
of the covenants, recognizing it is not the city's
responsibility to enforce those covenants. In any event, he
is requesting that the council lay the matter over to give
him an opportunity to speak with Mr. Waldman and find
out exactly what the design is since he did not have a
chance to see it before this evening.
Mayor Krebsbach commented that it is customary, if there
is an objection, for council to hear it. She is comfortable
with putting this over until the next meeting so there is an
opportunity for Mr. Cummins and the applicant to have a
conversation.
Councilmember Vitelli agreed that he is comfortable
putting this over; however, he fails to find any reason to
disallow this. If the council starts making decisions based
on neighbor's opinions of the looks of things, they would
spend a lot of time in court. He asked Mr. Cummins,
since he has been on the council before, if he sees any
reason for them to deny this request. Mr. Cummins replied
that he believes that the council has the authority to deny
based on the 100 -foot setback from the wetland but would
defer to counsel on that. He is not asking today for the
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council to deny the request, he is just asking for an
opportunity to speak with the applicant.
Councilmember Vitelli asked if it is true that the council
can deny the request based on the 100 -foot buffer. City
Attorney Diehm replied that the council's authority here is
to consider the impact that this will have on the wetland.
So the resident is correct in that council has an authority to
deny it if they were to find that the building of this fence
had an unacceptable impact on the wetland. What has
been presented in the planners report and what went before
the Planning Commission and is recommended to council
tonight is that this fence will not have an impact on the
wetland.
Councilmember Vitelli commented that the only impact
was the digging for the posts but he does not feel this
brings forth reason to assume that this has a tremendous
affect on the wetland.
Councilmember Duggan commented that he would be in
support of holding this over for a couple of weeks. He also
pointed out that there is the aesthetic of the wetlands itself
to be considered, which is valued and why it is maintained.
When you start going in the face of that aesthetic, which to
him is much larger than any individual fence. That is why
he chose to put a fence that can be seen through on his
property, which is on the other side but within the
covenants of Copperfield. The other part that he would
ask the applicant and Mr. Cummins to come back with is
the concept of privacy. What exactly is the privacy
concern here? Sometimes it is to keep pets or children in
the backyard, are there other ways to provide the desired
privacy? He would like to hear more from both sides.
Mayor Krebsbach summarized that when there is no
dissent, it really is to have the awareness of the neighbors
and an opportunity to comment with one another and to be
here. That timing did not work in this situation, and
therefore she would support the tabling. The purpose of
where the council comes in to make a decision is the
impact of the wetland. So any discussion the neighbor and
the applicant might have about the use of the fence or why
he needs the fence can be their own private discussion.
The applicant can bring that information forward if he
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wants to as well. City Attorney Diehm replied that Mayor
Krebsbach summarized correctly.
Councilmember Duggan moved to table Resolution
Approving a Wetlands Permit for a Fence at 580
Ayes: 5 Watersedge Terrace
Nays: 0 Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Councilmember Petschel asked Mr. Cummins who
currently enforces the covenants in Copperfield. Mr.
Cummins replied that he is unaware that anyone enforces
the covenants. Councilmember Petschel asked then of
what value they really are.
Case 2011_.. -17: Michael Cornick, 1176 Assistant to Administrator Sedlacek explained that the
Sibley Memorial Highway.
applicant has a home on Sibley Memorial Highway among
"RESOLUTION APPROVING A
a sliver of Lilydale, but it is in Mendota Heights. As of
CRITICAL AREA PERMIT TO
today, there is an existing home on the parcel. The
CONSTRUCT A NEW HOME AT
applicant for this critical area permit, is seeking to demolish
1176 SIBLEY MEMORIAL HIGHWAY'
the existing home, remove it, and then to construct a new
home with a larger footprint and a new garage. As a part
of this project they are changing driveways. They
currently have one driveway off to the eastern edge of the
lot and a second driveway on their actual parcel. They
would be seeking to tie into that for access to the home and
the new garage. Assistant to Administrator Sedlacek
shared an image of the front of the proposed home. The
home itself is compliant with all critical area rules. It is
compliant in regards to height, setbacks, and grades. It is a
significant project, which very fortunately for the applicant,
fits all criteria for the critical area.
The applicant is showing staff the materials to be used. It
is a vinyl siding but it is made to look like natural
materials. It is intended to be a longer lasting product. It
will have a view from the lower level but it is very nicely
fitting within all of the criteria. The applicant has worked
a couple of times on different iterations on this parcel and
is finally made this application for this project.
The existing home and the newly proposed are at the base
of the bluff, which goes up at a fairly significant grade, up
into the Kingsley Estates townhomes at the top of the
parcel. The parcel of land itself is actually quite large,
encompassing the bluff itself.
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At the Planning Commission, there was a little bit of
concern about an easement, which runs through the parcel.
It is noted that the driveway goes over that easement. The
applicant is aware that this is an actual public easement that
the city may need access to at some point. The other
question that came up at the Planning Commission meeting
was for the portable shed and whether or not that was also
compliant. It is 144 square foot accessory structure, well
under 15 square feet in height — no lofts on this one — that is
compliant with both code and specifically the critical area
ordinance.
Councilmember Vitelli asked where the proposed driveway
goes off to — there is a Y in the picture. Assistant to
Administrator Sedlacek replied that it is actually another
home, which is in Lilydale. That is the existing condition
as this driveway, which is on Mr. Cornick's parcel of land
but accesses the property further down Highway 13. So
the proposal is within his own land, to then hook up that Y
to access that and have a better grade for his driveway.
Councilmember Vitelli asked if this meets the guidelines
with regard to the increased size of the impervious surface.
Assistant to Administrator Sedlacek replied that in the
critical area, there is not a specific number tied to that.
However, the engineer reviews the plans, looks at
impervious surface, and makes a determination if there is
any kind of negative impact. City Engineer Mazzitello has
looked at these plans in detail and would be willing to
comment on them.
Public Works Director /City Engineer John Mazzitello
stated that staff has worked extensively with the applicant
on developing these plans, not only with the easement but
with the layout of the house and the access issues and the
impervious surface issues. The applicant received a copy
of the land disturbance guidance document and the
stormwater management provisions within it. They are
aware of the construction management and stormwater
management post - construction that they will be accounted
for. He stated that he is satisfied that the plan adequately
addresses the stormwater management ordinances.
Councilmember Duggan asked if the new driveway would
be entirely in Mendota Heights. Assistant to Administrator
Sedlacek referred to the site plan and pointed out the border
�, ) between Mendota Height and Lilydale. The driveway is
July 5, 2011
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within Mendota Heights. Councilmember Duggan asked if
the driveway was compliant. The answer was in the
affirmative, as proposed the driveway is compliant.
Going back to the impervious surface, Councilmember
Duggan commented that the big challenge is that when a
larger impervious surface is created there is the potential to
create more runoff. Is it correct that the engineer has
determined that this will either be controlled or it is not
significant? City Engineer Mazzitello replied that the
ordinance and guidance document govern how many
additional square feet — that new impervious surface —
constitute the need for a retention pond for rain control.
This does not meet that threshold.
Councilmember Duggan commented that on the image
shown, it looked like the roof looked like it had a greenish
tint to it. Assistant to Administrator Sedlacek replied that
the image is a black and white photo so that is an optical
illusion.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he completely supports
this. It is an excellent and beautiful home and it would be
a great addition.
Councilmember Petschel echoed Councilmember Vitelli's
sentiments. She expressed her appreciation of the way the
homeowners have come in and worked with staff and been
meticulous in terms meeting all criteria for this lot. It is a
challenging project and she feels that it will be a beautiful
addition.
Councilmember Duggan agreed.
Mayor Krebsbach commented that she believes this shows
how Mendota Heights has maintained the bluff. If anyone
wonders about those extremely tall buildings, they have a
garage underneath so their first floor starts on top of the
garage.
Councilmember Vitelli moved to Approve the Resolution
Approving a Critical Area Permit to Construct a New
Ayes: 5 home at 1176 Sibley Memorial Highway.
Nays: 0 Councilmember Duggan seconded the motion.
Case 2011-18: John and Rebecca
Driscoll, 21 Dorset Road. "RESOLUTION
APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT FOR A COVERED FRONT
ENTRY AT 21 DORSET ROAD"
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Assistant to Administrator Sedlacek explained that before
the zoning code update, this was a common request for a
variance. In 2010, when the city updated city code, it was
decided that perhaps this was better off as a conditional use
permit. They are something that is deemed reasonable but
staff still wants to have control over these requests to make
sure they meet specific conditions.
The nature of this request is the existing home on this
parcel is a rambler style home, single level that is actually
on an angle on their lot. It actually just touches on the 30-
foot front setback, according to the Dakota County property
records. The applicant is proposing to construct a new
covered entry to this home, which is eight feet out from the
home. A portion of this covered front entry then goes into
the 30 -foot setback. The conditional use permit for this is
actually specific to a portion of this covered front entry.
This was a matter that staff considered carefully to make
sure they were doing the right process on this — should it be
a variance, should it be conditional use. The planner's
analysis was that, yes this does fit as a conditional use
under the revised code and under that there are
requirements that it be built with an open style construction
that can have no more than 50 square feet inside of the area
and no more than five feet of length into the front parent
setback. This application meets all of those requirements.
The Planning Commission asked a couple of more
questions specifically about how might sidewalks access
this parcel of land. The applicant showed that sidewalks
would be constructed after the final completion of this and
then they would decide the best place for a sidewalk. It is
of interest but it is not a part of council's authority to
decide where the sidewalks to this covered front entry
would go.
The applicant also provided images from both Dorset Road
and Staples Avenue showing limited impact for sight lines
along that way, addressing planning commission concerns
about any kind of chance in making that corner less safe for
pedestrians or vehicles.
There was a public hearing, there were no comments at that
public hearing, and ultimately the Planning Commission
agreed with the planner's recommendation and is
recommending approval of this conditional use permit.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
Case 2011 -19: Beverly Sargent, 1140
Sibley Memorial Highway.
"RESOLUTION APPROVING A
CRITICAL AREA PERMIT TO
CONSTRUCT A PATIO AND
RETAINING WALL AT 1040 SIBLEY
MEMORIAL HIGHWAY'
July 5, 2011
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Councihnember Vitelli moved to Approve Resolution
Approving a Conditional Use Permit for a Covered Front
Entry at 21 Dorset Road.
Councilmember Duggan seconded the motion.
Assistant to Administrator Sedlacek explained that this
address is familiar because there have been a number of
critical area requests out of this parcel. It is located on the
corner of Mayfield Heights Road and Sibley Memorial
Highway. One month ago there was a request for a privacy
fence along the eastern edge of this parcel. This request
is to now construct a patio on the east side of the home,
which is 20 feet by 20 feet. The applicant describes it as
being constructed with pervious pavers in that the dirt that
would be removed in order to make this patio flat and
usable would be used to fill in the low spot between large
maple trees to the east of the home and then also to fill in a
retaining wall they wish to construct around the upper of
those two trees.
The Planning Commission called out the fact that this
retaining wall was not a part of the original planning
application added that language into the conditions of the
approval, which identified that the retaining wall is where it
is illustrated on the site plan and that it will also be
constructed of natural or stone materials. There were no
comments on this application at the public hearing. After
some discussion about how to ensure that stormwater is not
a negative impact on the site, the Planning Commission did
go with the planner's recommendation approving this
critical area permit for a patio. Relating to the last point
mentioned about controlling stormwater, the conditions
leave a number of factors up to city engineer to make sure,
as this project is completed, that it meets those
requirements and does not have a negative impact on the
stormwater in the area.
After the Planning Commission meeting, the city engineer
pointed out that this project would be subject to a grading
permit, similar in process to a building permit for several
projects. Public Works Director /City Engineer Mazzitello
explained that staff has established, as part of their building
procedures, a grading permit. A grading permit is for those
projects that involve soil disturbance but are not affiliated
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with any other permit, such as a building permit or a
plumbing permit. These are commonly applied to parking
lot extensions, driveway relocations, and projects of the
like. Because this is a patio that is not affiliated with any
type of structural building permit necessary, it would be
required to have a grading permit obtained prior to
construction start. The purpose of that grading permit is to
look at the soil disturbance and any soil relocation on the
site to ensure there is not going to be an adverse impact to
stormwater management on the site. City Engineer
Mazzitello contacted the applicant this afternoon and left a
voice mail informing her of that and offered to walk her
through the process should council decide to approve the
critical area permit.
Councilmember Petschel asked what the slope is on this
site. Assistant to Administrator Sedlacek referred to the
grading map and explained that these are two -foot
contours, so it is approximately three feet from one end of
the patio to the next. This figures to be about a 12% slope,
which is less than the 18% that would be insisted.
Councilmember Petschel commented that her concerns
about that would be addressed by the inclusion requiring a
grading permit and an indication where the relocation of
the soil and dirt is. There is going to be more disturbance if
there is a 13% slope as opposed to an area that is totally
flat.
Councilmember Duggan stated that it is an approximately
22 -foot drop from the area proposed for consideration
down to Sibley Memorial Highway, as he looks at the map.
Mayor Krebsbach asked Councilmember Petschel if she
was recommending the addition of another bullet.
Councilmember Petschel replied that no, she looked at the
contours on the original plan and thought that this was not a
flat area and just wanted to clarify that.
Mayor Krebsbach asked what kind of cost is this grading
recommendation adding. City Engineer Mazzitello replied
that the grading permit is a flat fee, just to cover the staff
review time. A grading permit costs $100 and staff can
turn a properly drawn set of plans around in a day.
Councilmember Vitelli moved to Approve a Resolution
Approving a Critical Area Permit to Construct a Patio and
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Ayes: 5 Retaining Wall at 1040 Sibley Memorial Highway.
Nays: 0 Councilmember Duggan seconded the motion.
Case 2011 -21: David Albrecht, 1345 Mayor Krebsbach noted that this is at Brown College and
Mendota Heights Road. "RESOLUTION the applicant is not present. Assistant to Administrator
DENYING A REQUEST FOR Sedlacek explained that Brown College is locating to a
VARIANCES FROM THE REQUIRED parcel on Mendota Heights Road. They have a complete
SETBACKS FOR MONUMENT SIGNS sign package that they have put together. The majority of
AT 1345 MENDOTA HEIGHTS ROAD" signs do not have any issues with code; however, the
proposed locations for the two monument signs do have
issues with code. They are seeking to construct those two
monument signs right off of the right -of -way on both
Mendota Heights Road and Northland Drive.
Within the sign package, the applicant shows a very good
image because it gives an approximate location of the right -
of -way, just outside of the trail on Mendota Heights Road.
The existing monument can be seen in the image at a 20-
foot setback, which is much more common application in
the industrial park. The original PUD, when this area was
developed, had a standard of 20 feet for these entrance
monuments.
The applicant is requesting that these be placed
immediately upon the front yard line. However, the
applicant was not able to articulate to the Planning
Commission either any kind of practical difficulty, why
they needed to be there and was not able to address
alternatives that they had considered in terms of placing
these at the 20 -foot setback, which has been more standard
in the area.
The Planning Commission expressed a support for the sign
themselves, as being attractive signs, but asked the
applicant to do further homework into where alternative
locations could be or what type of landscaping could be
done sparingly to ask for a 20 -foot setback, as had been
allowed on this parcel in the past.
There was a public hearing held on this matter. There were
no comments at this public hearing. Staff did hear from
one additional business in the area, which happens to have
a sign right on the front setback line, but they did not wish
to make any comment, they just inquired as to the nature of
this request.
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Mayor Krebsbach asked if they had a variance. Assistant
to Administrator Sedlacek replied that he was unable to
rind out if they have a variance as the call came in late in
the day, but it is just a matter of trying to find out more.
Ultimately there is a request, no public feedback has been
received on it, and currently there is an applicant that has
not provided staff with any further detail as requested by
the Planning Commission to warrant issuing these
variances. The Planning Commission did adopt the
findings of the planner for denial.
Councilmember Duggan asked if the proposed location
would obstruct visibility for the cars trying to exit the
grounds and enter the road. Assistant to Administrator
Sedlacek replied that staff would say this is the very reason
why they have the setback in code.
Councilmember Duggan commented, other than visibility
versus the previous sign, the distance back is eight to ten
feet and the speed in that area is not much more than 35
miles per hour. He supports the recommendation but has a
challenge on number four of the resolution .. . therefore
it be resolved . . . He asked legal staff if that should be
included in the resolution. He would be uncomfortable
including that and trying to determine "granting of this
grant would be establishing a privilege for this property
which has been denied to others in the district." When
something like this is stated, he would want to know what
were the deniables and on what reason were they denied.
Since that is not included he would have a hard time
supporting that particular claim.
Councilmember Duggan suggested that, instead of the
stated number four, that this language be added; "sightlines
exiting the property in this particular area are dramatically
reduced and therefore a safety hazard."
Mayor Krebsbach stated that she believes they can remove
number four and include one of the reasons to deny is
sightline for vehicles exiting the property.
Councilmember Duggan moved Approval of a Resolution
Denying a Request for Variances from the Required
Setbacks for Monument Signs at 1345 Mendota Heights
Ayes: 5 Road, with the New Item Four.
Nays: 0
PROPERTY MAINTENANCE
IN COMMERCIAL ZONES
July 5, 2011
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Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Mayor Krebsbach stated that this is one of the things she
was interested in a year ago as a council member.
Assistant to Administrator Sedlacek explained that this is
information as requested by city council at the 2011 work
session to follow up on the development on commercial
property maintenance code for anything that is zoned Other
Commercial or Industrial within the City of Mendota
Heights. Currently there is code on residential property
maintenance; there is no such code for commercial
properties at this time. It was discussed in September of
2010 and at that time, with the potential of change in
election, it was put off until the work session. At the work
session city council gave staff direction to find out what it
would take to get this new code developed.
Staff has received feedback from Planner Grittman and
Assistant to Administrator Sedlacek provided two estimates
for developing this type of a code that would be something
that could be implemented. The lesser of these two costs,
basing any additional new code upon the residential
property maintenance code, and involving public input, as
this is an all new code to the City of Mendota Heights and
there are a number of property owners that would be
impacted — that process is estimated to cost $3,200. If a
more involved process, looking at code across the Twin
Cities, seeking out communities with similar types of code,
and then a more involved process to get the business
owners involved into it and to get buy -in — would be
$7,200.
There are some other concerns that Mayor Krebsbach has
asked that would be included in any iteration, any draft of
code for property maintenance in the commercial zone. So
at this point, staff is seeking council feedback on if creating
this new code should be pursued. If so, this is not a
budgeted item for 2011 so is this something to go after this
year or in to 2012, it could be integrated into the budget
work sessions for the upcoming budget. The last item is
that staff could do a lot of this work in developing a draft
but would need to know what is the purpose of this code.
The initial statement in any new code that is created needs
to have some guidance on what the purpose is for the code.
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Councilmember Duggan expressed his interest in what
Mayor Krebsbach had to say. However, he stated that he
would oppose it for many reasons. As he looks at what is
contained and hears staffs report, he would be very
concerned for the costs and the time involved in going
forward with this.
Mayor Krebsbach explained that one of the reasons that she
brought this forward is last year there was plywood over
the windows at the Mendota Hotel and there was nothing
the city could do to require them to remove the plywood
and replace it with a window or have material that matches
the siding. They have now painted the plywood and stripes
have been drawn on that siding. Also, there was the
testimony from the people behind Fischerville and council
had never really looked at the back of Fischerville, where it
is not graded and it is not finished.
The properties that are commercial and predate when
everything was developed with TIF [tax increment
financing]; everyone was required to finish four sides and
have it landscaped. That does not mean there has to be a
lot of planting but at least it is graded, seeded, maybe some
bushes added to block trash. If one-were to look at any of
the businesses in the industrial park — Taj Technologies
Inc., General Pump — Mendota Heights has a very high
standard that adds to the quality of the community. There
are parcels that are here that predate all of that. The city
has nothing in any kind of ordinance that even matches
what is required of residential properties.
Mayor Krebsbach does not mean for this to be onerous, and
is surprised at the $3,200 cost, but feels this would be for
Mr. Grittman to conduct hearings and meetings with those
property owners who would be affected. It is her desire to
no longer have anyone grandfathered in. This would take
care of making it a level playing field for all commercial
businesses in Mendota Heights.
The city spent two years on the Mendota Plaza
development and spends a lot of time on absolutely
everything in terms of signage, etc. She feels the time has
come. Right now there is nothing before the council that is
really looking at someone specifically but she recommends
it be done.
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The only thing Mayor Krebsbach thinks sounds onerous is
landscape. She would want to make sure that would mean
that it is either seeded or lawn is placed around the
building; it is either graded and finished in terms of parking
surface or it is landscaped in terms of a finished looking
product.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he is in support. He
thinks that the city should have something similar to what
is required of residential appearance. He likes the idea that
the proposal would be, as stated, "utilizing the existing
residential code as a basis" because then it is easier for
council to understand and the residential code is not
onerous. It is quite reasonable and it does not cause
residents to jump through hoops to have their properties
exist in our city. He supports the $3,200 and utilizing the
residential code as a basis.
Councilmember Povolny asked if council is going to go
back and make all of the businesses comply with the new
standard. Mayor Krebsbach replied that staff could enforce
this ordinance on any business that is not compliant.
Councilmember Povolny asked again if this includes all
businesses; will someone be going into the back of every
business and make them comply with the new ordinance.
City Attorney Diehm replied that she believes that part of
staff's hope as they work through this process is to develop
language with the planner that will work as an ordinance.
Then there will have to be a separate policy discussion with
the council about what the intent is in terms of
enforcement. One of the biggest challenges with a
commercial maintenance ordinance is the enforcement and
whether or not it will be operated on a complaint basis or if
someone will systematically go through the community and
look for violations. Those are discussions that would be
proposed to have when staff comes back with some
ordinance language for the council.
Mayor Krebsbach stated that the options would be,
assuming council goes ahead with this, that it is on a
complaint basis or that staff goes through and identify all of
those properties. She assumes there could be some level of
notification that goes out to commercial owners, that this is
now a new ordinance. City Attorney Diehm replied that
she believes this to be true and the hope is, in working with
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the planner, that the notification would go out to the
commercial property owners beforehand so they feel like
they are involved in the process of the adoption of that
ordinance as well.
Mayor Krebsbach stated that this is where the $3,200 cost
is in terms of discussion. So staff would be at the front end
identifying those properties. This is not meant to be anti -
business. The businesses really have a high standard and
she believes it is in fairness to all of the businesses, which
she feels the majority comply with. So there are just a few
left and this gets at it. Should another situation arise where
something is unsightly and not really to the community
standard happens, if the city does not have an ordinance
like this all staff can do is complain to them, they have
nothing to stand on. They might as well not even talk to
them about it.
Mayor Krebsbach expressed her desire and appreciation to
support to go forward with this. Council could always, at
some point, decide that this is too onerous if council hears
from businesses.
Councilmember Povolny asked if staff places the
residential code that is there today on commercial /
industrial, are there businesses that do not meet that type of
code today. Mayor Krebsbach replied in the affirmative.
Councilmember Petschel asked if something like this is
enacted, what would be different on the two locations the
mayor cited: the motel and Fischerville. What is it exactly
staff would be able to compel these two businesses to do?
Mayor Krebsbach replied that it would not only be focusing
on these two businesses. Currently, houses are finished on
all four sides with roughly the same materials.
City Administrator David McKnight stated that if this
ordinance were put into place, they would carry out
whatever direction staff gives but they would not develop
an ordinance specific to any one business in the
community. Mayor Krebsbach stated that she only used the
two businesses as an example.
Mayor Krebsbach continued by stating that if one were to
look at the residential ordinance and take a look at was
required of businesses that came in under TIF financing, it
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is really to bring in that last piece in the city that does not
comply — and there is no reason for them to. There has not
been a standard of compliance and the ordinance would
establish that standard. Then it would be up to council to
determine how it would be enforced.
Councilmember Duggan commented that there is a
comment in the proposal that it is retroactive and asked if
she is asking for it to not be retroactive. Mayor Krebsbach
replied that she is requesting that this would be retroactive.
Councilmember Duggan stated that when one makes an
ordinance, as in this case, practically for a single issue that
is not the normal government process. He supports
changes to or adding ordinances if there is a larger issue out
there. This is a single issue — a window. He believes there
is a language available to fix that issue, it is just a question
of pursuing it.
Mayor Krebsbach responded again that the issue with the
window was not a single issue — it was a single example of
a larger issue. Staff has not done a search through the city
for where there are commercials that are not in compliance.
Councilmember Duggan replied that there is no staff set up
to do those, other then the existing residential code.
Mendota Heights has always been a city that works with
complaints; they are addressed. If the city sets up a group
that goes around and polices to ensure that they are all in
compliance with whatever this ordinance is — he suggests
that staff reviews if this can be done with the existing
residential. He would not support it himself. He feels that
Mendota Heights is a city that most people are proud to live
in, most people point at it and say that is a great place to be.
He thinks this is going to set an unfriendly to business
atmosphere with this foresight of a business, fully finished,
graded and landscaped. Normally, most businesses,
especially the larger ones, have larger parking lots. Some
screenings of those have been done successfully. He
believes council is going off in the wrong direction in
trying to create an ordinance that they are unsure of what it
might entail. The city has an excellent residential code that
has given us a city that is second to none.
Mayor Krebsbach stated that this is one of the options they
are considering doing.
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Councilmember Vitelli commented that he does not agree
that this ordinance would be anti - business. Also, if one
were to look back the city updated and improved the
residential maintenance, it was retroactive, and is enforced.
Councilmember Duggan clarified that the improved
residential ordinance was not retroactive. This proposed
commercial ordinance would be so the city would be telling
an existing established business that they are not up to the
code and they have to spend x number of dollars to fix it
up. No one tells a residential owner they have to do that.
Councilmember Vitelli replied that a residential property
that looks like a dump is not exempt from the update
maintenance ordinance.
Councilmember Vitelli continued by stating that he sees the
initiation of this work as a learning tool. For example, how
many businesses do not really fit with this ordinance and
where would there be problems with the retroactive.
Retroactive or no retroactive could be discussed. This is
just the beginning of trying to provide commercial
appearance definitions, just like the city has for residences.
Mayor Krebsbach stated again that if there is no ordinance,
there is no point in complaining about any commercial
structure in this city. She does not think this is onerous;
she thinks businesses would want this final step in the
ordinances. The city has nothing to stand on in terms of
ordinances about anything that would come along at the
level of plywood over windows.
Councilmember Duggan stated that he does not believe that
there is nothing the city can do about complaints on the
appearance of commercial properties.
Councilmember Vitelli asked for clarification from staff on
whether or not there is anything available to correct a
complaint like the example. Assistant to Administrator
Sedlacek replied that the specific example in mind, there
was a broken window and it was asked that it be repaired.
The property owner, without code requirements, complied
by boarding up the window and finishing it like the rest of
the building. Even under the current housing code, that
complies. That is one of the issues that Mayor Krebsbach
has requested be addressed, how would staff repair a
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violation. In this situation, if the housing code was applied
it currently complies. Fischerville also currently complies.
Councilmember Petschel asked if council does go with
what has been done residentially, what code language
would have to change so that a commercial property owner
would be compelled to comply. Mayor Krebsbach replied
that she does not feel that council and staff is that inept that
they cannot come up with a good ordinance that is not
onerous, that it leads depth to some of these issues. What
she was astounded at was there was nothing the city could
do. In the example, they later painted over the plywood
and drew lines on it to look like the siding. There was
plywood over two windows. It is not her desire to over
dwell on the motel. They maintain the grounds.
It is Mayor Krebsbach's recommendation that this process
be started. This is a very sharp city, there is a couple of
spots left and she does not want this to be invasive on
businesses. There has been a lot of time spent put into
those site plans. Anyone that has come into the city, since
probably 1990 if not before, in terms of business, be it an
industrial park or commercial, have had have extensive
plans. Anybody who was here before, they really do not
have to comply with anything. This would at least give the
city something that is of a standard.
Mayor Krebsbach expressed her appreciation of
Councilmember Vitelli's point that when staff went to a
residential maintenance ordinance, no one went around and
necessarily told everyone. It is just that the standard started
to move and there is at least something on the books to
work with if needed. She does not believe that the city is
going to change its character in how businesses are run but
it is deficient in an ordinance in this area.
City Attorney Diehm commented that it is important that
the council understand that there are general nuisance
language in the code and also available under State Statute.
If there is a condition that unreasonably interferes with the
use and enjoyment and rises to the level of a nuisance, there
is an enforcement action that the city can take. What some
communities find the benefit to an ordinance like this is
that it removes that determination of whether or not this is a
nuisance, from that general kind of definition, and gives
business owners a clearer road map as to what will be
Ayes: 4
Nays: 1 (Duggan)
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expected of them as business owners. It then gives the city
an opportunity to cite very specific things, rather than
trying to make a claim that one window rises to the level of
a nuisance. There is where council has to decide if they are
comfortable with just the very general language or do they
want something specific in the code.
Councilmember Povolny stated that the part he questions is
if someone is going to be hired to go around and just follow
the businesses or will it be done like the residential code,
by complaint. Mayor Krebsbach replied that this could be
determined. Councilmember Vitelli commented that this is
the line that he sees; yes, an ordinance is needed for that
type of thing but not if someone is going to go around and
inspect properties and cite them for leaving a pallet on the
ground for two days.
Mayor Krebsbach stated that it would need to be
determined in the ordinance if there should be outside
storage. For example, when SuperAmerica came in they
could not have outside storage. So there are a lot of
businesses that are already complying with the standards
that council was able to implement because of TIF
financing. This can all be determined.
Councilmember Vitelli moved that staff proceed with the
drafting of a proposed ordinance utilizing the existing
residential code as a basis, providing for a limited public
input from impacted property owners. This is the process
that would be started and some of these questions would be
answered as the process goes along and council will
determine what they feel is the right approach in regard
with regard to retroactivity, etc.
Councilmember Povolny seconded the motion.
Councilmember Duggan expressed his concern on the word
"limited" public input. How would one determine
"limited ?" Assistant to Administrator Sedlacek explained
that this was his language. It was described to him in the
proposal that there would be one open house. So he
deemed that as "limited" but it is not specific language.
"Limited," in this instance, means that the planner is
proposing that there be one open house with businesses.
Councilmember Vitelli is in favor of deleting the word
"limited."
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Councilmember Duggan continued by stating that he
believes that the motion and the second are very reasonable
but would suggest that Planner Grittman to consider a
$1,000 fee to tweak the existing residential code, which
seems to have worked well both commercially and
residentially, except for a couple of small instances. One of
which was a building that been around forever and,
technically, can be grandfathered in. There are other
ordinance language and universal building code language
in relation to nuisance that could apply. So rather than
going to $3,200 he would ask if Mr. Grittman would
consider a $1,000 fee to tweak the residential code and
other areas to bring it to a commercial level.
ORDINANCE 436 REPEALING
City Clerk Sandie Thone explained that at the May 17th
ORDINANCE 237 AND RESTATING
meeting it was recommended by the council that staff work
TITLE 3, CHAPTER 3 OF THE CITY
to make ordinance 436 pertaining to peddlers more
CODE PERTAINING TO PEDDLERS,
restrictive while still allowing the constitutionally protected
SOLICITORS /CANVASSERS AND
activities and those deemed exemptions by the council.
TRANSIENT MERCHANTS
That ordinance is being brought back and it eliminates the
licensing process completely and allows only a registration
process. It reduces staff time and police attention with
regard to these activities.
Section two of the proposed code actually prohibits all
peddlers, professional fundraisers, and transient merchants
with the exception of those exempted in section three.
Farmers' markets and temporary greenhouses are exempt
with prior council approval. Farmers' markets are also
only allowed on private property.
Councilmember Petschel made an observation that this
document has had a long journey but she is glad council
and staff took their time and worked on it over the course
of three meetings. She really appreciates the work that has
been done on it and really likes the final copy of the
document.
She also wanted to make it clear, even though this is being
described as more restrictive, that she believes it eliminates
the nuisance of possible non -law abiding people going
door -to -door, it does not prohibit anybody who is
constitutionally allowed to go door -to -door, it does not bar
the Girl Scouts or the Boy Scouts from selling Christmas
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wreaths or cookies, or the school children from collecting
for marathons or selling wrapping paper or plants — the
kind of people residents do not mind having at the door. In
fact, they enjoy having them at the door. That is going to
continue. What the city is not going to have going door -to-
door are the people who are not from here, who really have
no business being here, sometimes have known criminal
histories, and are in our neighborhoods. She would like it
set up so that there is no judgment calls on this. They are
just not allowed. The normal people, residents are very
happy with going door -to -door is not going to change, but
that level of really nuisance, unappreciated violations of the
sanctity of the homes — that is the thing that is being
eliminated.
She does not feel that this is in the least bit anti - business,
but thinks that entrepenneurs, and it is standard practice
now, that if they want to do business they come to your
house and leave a brochure. They don't have to ring the
doorbell, all they do is put it on a rubber band around the
door handle. But the people who will ring the doorbells are
only going to be the people that are wanted.
Mayor Krebsbach stated she would like to know if it could
still be asked of someone if they have a permit to be there.
Is it correct that the city will no longer grant permits? City
Clerk Thone replied that this is correct, there will be no
paperwork, no licensing, only registrations. Basically those
that are required to register will come in and give their
names and what they are going to do. Mayor Krebsbach
asked if that person would get a registration card. City
Clerk Thone answered that there will not be a registration
card issued.
Mayor Krebsbach asked how a resident could know if
someone at their door is constitutionally permitted or if
they had been registered. City Clerk Thone replied that this
would be very difficult to do. Mayor Krebsbach stated that
when someone has come to her door, she has asked if they
have a permit to solicit and they have been able to show her
the permit.
Chief Aschenbrener stated that the simplest way is to just
be aware of what is covered in the ordinance. If someone
comes to the door and they are selling magazines
subscriptions, they are not going to be covered by interstate
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commerce and the resident could ask them if they realize
that it is illegal for them to do this in this city and calling
police. If they come to the door and it is Councilmember
Vitelli running for office or it is the State Senator, they are
constitutionally protected and that is something that is
allowable in the city, or if it is someone at the door trying
to solicit customers for a business in Wisconsin, under
interstate commerce, that is allowable. Anything other than
the constitutionally protected activities, selling interstate,
doing water research, inquiring about clean air, save the
river, and handing out literature educating the public is
illegal.
The language in the charitable solicit requires that the
organization be a registered not - for -profit corporation in
the State of Minnesota. That is where the registration
process comes in. Any reputable organization will send the
city a letter approximately one month in advance with a list
of people who will be in the community from this day to
this day and here is what they will be handing out. They
will also provide their contact number should there be any
questions. It gives staff a way to contact that organization
back should there be any issues with one of their people.
Mayor Krebsbach asked if a resident could still call the city
if someone is at their door and ask if this person is
permitted to be going door -to -door in Mendota Heights.
Chief Aschenbrener replied in the affirmative.
Councilmember Povolny asked if this is passed, how will
the public be educated on what is allowed and what is not
allowed. City Clerk Thone replied that this requires legal
publication before it can actually become code. That would
be the first step. She feels that the complete ordinance
should be published instead of just a luminary so that it is
clear in the Heights Highlights, however, that will not come
out until the fall. Staff could put it on the city website.
Councilmember Petschel commented that it should be put
on the website and in the Heights Highlights in the fall.
Councilmember Vitelli asked Chief Aschenbrener and City
Attorney Diehm if they are in support of this. They both
replied in the affirmative.
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
ORDINANCE 438 AMENDING CITY
CODE TITLE 7, CHAPTER 2, SECTION
2A PERTAINING TO FIRE CODE
Ayes: 5
Nays: 0
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INNOVATION PERF
MEASUREMENT PROGRAM.
"RESOLUTION •••• i
PARTICIPATION IN TBE COUNCIL
ON •
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Councilmember Vitelli moved Approval of Ordinance 436
Repealing Ordinance 237 and Restating Title 3, Chapter 3
of the City Code Pertaining to Peddlers,
Solicitors /Canvassers and Transient Merchants.
Councilmember Duggan seconded the motion.
Councilmember Duggan commented that he would like to
have it in the front when people come into the city they
could see notes in relation to if they are looking for a
permit, registration, or anything else there is information
there telling them to read this before going any further.
He also clarified that what is being approved tonight is
pages 171 through 174, Ordinance 436 Repealing
Ordinance 237, and Ordinance 237 on pages 175 to 183 is
not what is being repealed. City Clerk Thone replied that
Councilmember Duggan is correct, that is what is being
approved this evening. The second one is the previous
ordinance.
City Clerk Thone explained that this is a pretty
straightforward simple code amendment with the fire code.
The fire marshal brought to her attention that the permit
fees have been deleted out of the fire codes since as far
back as the codes have been in place and requested the fees
be put into the fee schedule and to amend the code to
include that inclusion. Staff has been charging the fees and
has been performing the services. So the code just needed
to be updated to reflect that and then at the next council
meeting the fee schedule will be updated to include these
fees, which have never been included thus far in the city's
schedule and really needs to be.
Councilmember Duggan moved Approval of Ordinance
438 Amending City Code Title 7, Chapter 2, Section 2A
Pertaining to Fire Code.
Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
City Administrator David McKnight explained that in 2010
the state legislature created the Council on Local Results
and Innovation that has been working with the office of the
state auditor in putting in place a potential performance
measurement program for cities and counties in Minnesota.
This is a voluntary program that they have put in place and
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INNOVATION PERFORMANCE put some specific performance measurement tools in place
MEASUREMENT PROGRAM" for cities and counties to use if they would like to
participate in it. As stated, it is a voluntary program and for
those cities and counties that do participate they will offer
reimbursement of up to $0.14 per capita, which would
equate to just over $1,500 for Mendota Heights, and an
exemption from levy limits in 2011. This was the topic of
extensive discussion at the last administrators meeting in
Dakota County. Most of the cities in the county are
participating in this program just as a safeguard in the levy
limits area.
Mayor Krebsbach asked City Administrator McKnight to
explain what a levy limit is. He replied that when state
legislatures put levy limits in place, they tell a city that their
levy can go up next year by x% and no higher. They also
at the same time put exemptions in the levy limits in place,
such as debt and other examples.
City Administrator McKnight continued by stating that in
looking at the program and what it might cost, he does not
recommend that the city participate for a number of
reasons. If council wants to do true performance
measurements in Mendota Heights, then have that
discussion with staff. Council and staff should determine
what should be measured and put that amount of money in
the budget and set that program up. Levy limits have never
been a big issue with the council in Mendota Heights
because of its conservative approach to budgeting. It has
not been something that fearful. The reimbursement that is
offered for this program is not a significant amount of
money and it does not guarantee that it would cover the
cost for staff to put this into place and they are offering it as
local government aid. As council is aware, Mendota
Heights lost local government aid many years ago so this
has the potential of not being available in the future.
City Administrator McKnight reiterated that he does not
recommend participation in this program. If council wants
to participate, he did include a resolution that council
would need to approve.
Councilmember Duggan stated that he had the same
questions of what would be the cost of implementing this
relative to the paltry sum of money that the city might get,
and what was the explanation for that first paragraph of the
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discussion; cities that choose to participate in the new
standards measure program may be eligible for the
reimbursement and may be exempt from levy limits. City
Administrator McKnight answered those questions quite
nicely.
Councilmember Duggan moved Approval of Resolution
Denying Participation in the Council on Local Results and
Ayes: 5 Innovation Performance Measurement Program.
Nays: 0 Councilmember Vitelli seconded the motion.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he wonders who the state
legislature or auditors think they are to begin to establish
performance levels for a city. It is like a shakedown — you
do not need to buy our protection, but if you do, this is
what we will do. This is not what the state government
should be doing and he absolutely would never vote for
this.
Mayor Krebsbach commented that she does see this as
unrelated in terms of $0.14 per capita and performance
standards.
Mayor Krebsbach stated that the city does have a very
limited levy increase each year and asked if denying
participation would preclude the city from doing that. City
Administrator McKnight replied that once the legislature
figures out what kind of levy limits they are going to have
in place for next year, then he will know the answer to that
question.
Councilmember Petschel commented that the other thing
she finds stunning is how little information is available and
how un- precise and lax the requirements would be and
what it is that would actually be learned. It appears to her
like a "make work" project. She believes that the city, for a
lot less money, using software that is already in existence,
could survey the entire city and learn more than would ever
be learned using their documents.
COUNCIL COMMENTS Mayor Krebsbach asked to go first because she would like
to suggest that on July 19, 2011 there be a council
workshop at 6:00 p.m., prior to the council meeting. As is
known, Mr. McKnight has accepted the position in
Farmington. He still has his background to pass so no
action can be taken tonight; staff has not received a formal
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resignation. She recommended that on July 19, 2011 there
be a workshop beginning at 6:00 p.m. to review the job
description, discuss what the timeline might be, and how
the search process might be handled. Then formal action
could be taken at the council meeting afterwards.
Mayor Krebsbach asked if she needs a motion in terms of
scheduling the workshop. City Attorney Diehm replied
that there is no need for a motion and that she could
schedule a workshop.
Councilmember Duggan expressed his opinion that a half
an hour would be sufficient and they would start the
workshop at 6:30 p.m. Mayor Krebsbach replied that she
would rather have the meeting start at 6:00 p.m. to ensure
they have plenty of time and are not rushed.
Assistant to the Administrator Sedlacek stated that he could
update the job description and include it in the packet so
council would have it to review prior the workshop. Mayor
Krebsbach stated that an agenda for the workshop will be
put together but basically this is what the purpose of it
would be and, being a workshop, there would not be any
decisions made, and recommendations would be brought to
the council meeting.
Councilmember Petschel commented that she attended an
emergency preparedness workshop with the mayor, put on
by two speakers from Texas A &M. This was a service
provided by FEMA to assess the county and city readiness
for any kind of catastrophic event. She found it to be really
interesting and the part that she really liked the most was
that they took the Oklahoma City bombing, Katrina, and
the 35W bridge collapse and they went through how all of
those events were handled at the time, the participants
assessed that, and then each one of the cities involved in
those events did a critique afterwards of what they think
they did well and what they think they did poorly, and if
they had to do it again what they would they do.
Councilmember Petschel also commented that, after
looking at the planning applications tonight, a lot of people
are working on their homes. If anyone is out and about in
the community, there are painters, stuccoers, roofers — it
might be the hard winter — but it is really exciting to see
positive things that people are doing to their homes.
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Councilmember Duggan recognized Councilmember Vitelli
as he has reached a good age, but he has aged very well in
doing so and he has a lot more to go. He expressed his
congratulations to Councilmember Vitelli on his birthday,
which was yesterday, and on his grandchild's first birthday,
which was also yesterday.
Councilmember Vitelli stated that he was born on the 0' of
July 70 years ago, and coincidently his 15th grandchild was
born on the same day last year. He spent the weekend with
his family at the cabin. There were approximately 45
people, 29 of which were family members. It was really
wonderful, the weather could not have been better, there
was enough of a breeze to keep the mosquitoes away, and
everyone had a great time.
Councilmember Vitelli also congratulated City
Administrator David McKnight on his selection in
Farmington. Councilmember Vitelli has stated in the past
that if people were not looking at stealing my people, then
he should be worried; because then he has a bunch of dead
wood and gold bricks.
Councilmember Duggan commented that he was on his
way to the Par 3 on Saturday because it was the 50f
celebration of the Par 3, when he met up with
Councilmember Povolny. They both went to the Par 3.
Councilmember Duggan commented that everyone should
think about Centerville and the challenges they face with
ordinances and the languages.
Councilmember Duggan also commented that the biggest
challenge locally with the nice weather and all of the rain is
the growth of algae in the ponds and lakes. Everyone
should keep an eye on that in the hopes of controlling it
better.
Councilmember Povolny stated that he went to the
fireworks and the city donation was great. Councilmember
Petschel was there but she just could not get up to the golf
course. Her doctor husband — he would not come up.
Councilmember Petschel stated that she was sitting with all
of the common people on Dodd Road. Councilmember
Povolny again stated that the fireworks were amazing but
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what really surprised him was how airplanes could fly
through it.
There were other comments from Council members
praising the fireworks, the traffic management during the
fireworks, and the volunteer fire department for taking care
of all of the safety issues involved.
Mayor Krebsbach adjourned the meeting at 9:27 p.m.
Mayor
Krebsbach