1991-02-26 Planning Comm Minutes1
CITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
FEBRUARY 26, 1991
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was
held on Tuesday, February 26, 1991, in the City Hall Council
Chambers, 1101 Victoria Curve. Vice Chairperson Dwyer called the
meeting to order at 7:33 o'clock P.M. The following were present:
Dwyer, Koll, Friel, Dreelan, Krebsbach, Duggan and Tilsen. Also
present were Public Works Director Jim Danielson, Planning
Consultant Tim Malloy, Administrative Assistant Kevin Batchelder
and Senior Secretary Kim Blaeser.
INTRODUCTION OF NEW MEMBER
Vice Chairperson Dwyer introduced new Planning
Commissioner Bernard Friel. Vice Chair Dwyer explained
that new Planning Commissioner Friel has filled the
vacancy created by former Chairperson Morson who retired
from the Planning Commission in January, 1990.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
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APPROVAL
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
ABSTAIN:
Vice Chair Dwyer explained that every February the
Commission elects officers for the year and that these
offices consist of Chairperson and Vice Chairperson.
Commissioner Duggan nominated Mike Dwyer for the position
of Chair and Commissioner Sandra Krebsbach for the
position of Vice Chair.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
OF MINUTES
CONTINUED
CASE NO. 9
STRUB -
SUBDIVISION
Commissioner Koll moved approval of the January 22, 1991
Minutes with one correction.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
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HEARING
0-44:
Chairperson Dwyer briefly explained that the Commission
continued this hearing from the January Planning meeting
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on the Strub Subdivision to allow time for a Preliminary
Plat to be submitted.
Mr. Bill Strub and John Curran were present to discuss a
request for a subdivision. Mr. Strub explained that the
City Council had approved an Amendment to the CUP for PUD
for his Riverwood Place complex to allow CDI to build a
Magnetic Resonance Image (MRI) clinic. He explained that
that approval was conditioned upon replatting his PUD so
that property lines enclose the parking lot and fenced
area.
In response to a question from Commissioner Tilsen,
Planner Malloy stated that original PUD was approved with
a shared driveway. He explained that parcels 1 and 2 are
not landlocked parcels.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public. There was
no one present to discuss this request.
Commissioner Dreelan moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Friel seconded the motion.
Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend that the City
Council approve the Preliminary Plat.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
Mr. John Curran briefly discussed the possibility of
installing a sign at the CDI building. He explained that
he is looking for the Planning Commissions guidance with
respect to the quality and design of the sign before he
formally submits a variance request. Mr. Curran stated
that the sign would be lit using flood lights which are
not allowed by the Zoning Ordinance. He explained that
this facility is open 24 hours and the need for a well
lit sign is critical. The Commission briefly discussed
the flood lights relating to possible traffic impairment
and the design of the sign.
CONTINUED HEARING
CASE NO. 91-01:
ST. PAUL TURNER'S GYMNASTIC SOCIETY -
REZONING
Mr. Larry Page, Sirny Architects, was present to discuss
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St. Paul Turner's Gymnastic Society's request for
rezoning and preliminary plat. He briefly explained that
the existing parcel is zoned B-1A and that they are
requesting that the parcel be rezoned to B-1 as the
parcel is currently non-conforming due to the lack of 5
acres parcel minimum. He stated that Turner's is
requesting a CUP for a private athletic facility in a B-1
zone. He explained that the preliminary plat has been
completed and that Dakota County will be reviewing the
plat on Monday. Mr. Page stated that they are also
requesting a twenty foot (20') side yard variance to
parking lot setback to allow for a shared driveway.
Mr. Page explained that the exterior material is proposed
to be of a panel texture and that they are trying to get
away from the pretextured industrial panel while at the
same time trying to incorporate a gymnastics theme. He
stated that they are proposing to incorporate Turner's
main color scheme of red.
Mr. Page explained that the signage will be located on
the east side of the building with the possibility of
installing a sign at the west side of the building. He
stated that there will be a five foot (5') in diameter
sign using Turner's logo located at the front of the
building. Chair Dwyer pointed out that the east side of
the building faces the highway.
Mr. Page explained that the back of the building will be
screened using Ivy plant material. He stated that by
using the Ivy it will add texture and also dress up the
back side of the building.
Chair Dwyer then opened the meeting to the public. There
was no one present to discuss this request.
Commissioner Friel moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
In response to a question from Commissioner Friel, Mr.
Page explained that Turner's is purchasing the land from
Associated General Contractors (AGC) and that AGC will
continue to own the land to the south.
Mr. Russell Ditman, President of Turner's Gymnastic
Society, stated that the hours of operation will be from
9:00 A.M. to 10:00 P.M with mostly children using the
facility. Mr. Page stated that there is an open
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membership to the club.
Mr. Page stated that the signs will be illuminated
internally and that the frame of the signs will be
plexiglass.
Chair Dwyer questioned what the second floor will be used
for and inquired if the gymnastics society would lend
itself to wedding receptions. Mr. Ditman explained that
the 2nd floor is considered the rathskeller. He
explained that there may be beer and wine stored in the
refrigerator which are brought in by adults. He stated
that they have no intention of selling beer or wine and
at this time they are not planning to lend the facility
to weddings.
Commissioner Duggan inquired if the rathskeller is
allowed in the City and suggested that the City Council
review and discuss the proposed rathskeller shown on the
floor plans.
Commissioner Tilsen questioned with the access on Lot 2
which is dedicated to the County by previous platting if
there should be an easement or dedication on the
preliminary plat to the City. Mr. Page explained that
the seller of the southern parcel will assure this.
Planner Malloy stated that the City should confirm that
this is properly done on the plat.
Commissioner Tilsen questioned if drainage on Lot 1 would
be directed to the highway right-of-way. Public Works
Director Danielson explained that they would have to get
approval from MnDOT. Commissioner Tilsen stated his
concern for Lot 2's drainage. Commissioner Tilsen stated
that the water should drain towards the highway as it is
presently doing with Lot 1.
Commissioner Duggan stated that he would like to see more
landscaping in the back of the building. He suggested
that Evergreen Trees could be used to help break the
view. Mr. Page stated that that is why they have
proposed the Ivy plant material and that they will check
into the Evergreen Tree suggestion.
Commissioner Duggan questioned if there will be exits and
security lighting from the lower level to the upper
level. He further inquired if there will be a sprinkler
system. Mr. Page stated that these are all requirements
• of the State Building Code and that they have every
intention of complying with that code.
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Commissioner Duggan stated that the northeast corner of
the building shows an exit and he stated that there seems
to be quiet a drop off from the outside of the door down
to the ground. Mr. Page stated that they have been in
contact with the City's building department and they have
changed the exit. Commissioner Duggan questioned if the
exit door on the east side of the building would be
eliminated by the proposed addition. Mr. Page stated
that it would be and that the addition is purely academic
at this point.
In response to a question from Commissioner Duggan, Mr.
Page stated that there are 52 parking stalls proposed and
that 50 parking stalls is a requirement. He explained
that there is a curved driveway in front of the building.
Commissioner Duggan expressed concern relating to the
traffic driving against the correct flow of traffic. Mr.
Page stated that they cannot guarantee that the traffic
will flow properly.
Commissioner Duggan questioned if Mr. Page could increase
the size of the women's bathroom and locker rooms. Mr.
Page stated that they could review the possibility. He
pointed out that they are already in excess of the code
requirement for size.
Commissioner Krebsbach questioned if the building will be
air conditioned. Mr. Page stated that it will be. Mr.
Ditman stated that the facility will be using state of
the art design and material and that it should be the
premiere facility in the upper Midwest.
In response to a question from Commissioner Krebsbach,
Mr. Page stated that the air conditioning will be located
on the roof as indicated on the elevation plans.
Commissioner Friel questioned if the air conditioning
will be a recirculating system. Mr. Page stated that
they are in the process of designing the air conditioning
system.
Mr. Page stated that the refuse would be stored in doors.
Commissioner Tilsen moved to recommend that the City
Council approving the rezoning of the parcel from B-1A to
B-1 zoning.
Commissioner Friel seconded the motion.
Commissioner Tilsen moved to recommend that the City
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Council grant a conditional use permit for a private
athletic facility within a B-1 zone with the following
conditions:
1. Additional landscaping along the north property line
2. Directional signage be provided for traffic flow
within the parking lot.
3. An effort be made to direct as much storm water as
possible to flow towards I-35E, in coordination with
MnDOT.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Tilsen moved to recommend that the City
Council approve the preliminary plat contingent on
provision of legal documents assuring a permanent access
easement across Lot 1 for Lot 2.
Commissioner Friel seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Tilsen moved to recommend that the City
Council grant a twenty foot (20') side yard variance to
parking lot setback to allow for a shared driveway.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
HEARING:
CASE NO. 91-05:
LINVILL
ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT
CUP
Mr. Tim Kuntz, representing Ralph Linvill and Associates,
Inc., was present to discuss an Amendment to the Zoning
Ordinance to allow churches as Conditional Uses in the
"I" Industrial Zone. He further explained that the
applicant is also requesting a Conditional Use Permit for
Faith Church of Glory to be allowed to remain as tenants
within the Dakota Business Plaza.
Mr. Kuntz stated that this issue has already been through
the Planning Commission level and that they had
recommended approval. He stated that they are now coming
back to better explain their thoughts. He explained that
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how these particular uses (churches within an industrial
zone) arise are that churches are going through their
formative years and during that time, they are trying to
gain the resources to one day construct their own
facility, therefore they find places where there are
large openings to rent to satisfy their needs at that
time. He stated that one concern raised at the Council
level is that a church with the tax exempt status be non
revenue raising in the industrial area because there is
no tax benefit/tax base. Mr. Kuntz stated that they did
not feel that this point was controversial. He explained
that he had talked to City Attorney Tom Hart and
discussed this situation. He stated that Attorney Hart
is concerned with distinguishing between ownership and
tenants may not be within the City's scope of authority.
Mr. Kuntz introduced Pastor John Zimmerman and other
members of their congregation. Mr. Kuntz stated that
Pastor Zimmerman contacted other cities that have
churches within their industrial areas and he submitted
list to that effect.
Mr. Kuntz stated that churches within an industrial area
are not there long term. He explained that they do pay
taxes within their rent and therefore it does contribute
to the tax base. Mr. Kuntz explained that Attorney Hart
is not comfortable with the ordinance that his office
submitted. He explained that the word "tenants" seems to
be a problem. He explained that one way to get around
this problem is by setting a limit to the amount of space
that a church may use within the building. He stated
that by limiting the amount of space, would be
eliminating the possibility of the church ever owning the
space.
Chair Dwyer stated that with the City's objection to
churches in the industrial zone as an encroachment or
erosion of its tax base, how could the City possibly ever
object to a church coming in as an owner when it has a
church tenant in the next door warehouse. He stated that
once you let in churches as tenants you cannot keep out
churches as owners.
Commissioner Krebsbach stated that she would be more
comfortable with the ordinance if City staff or the City
Attorney wrote it or proposed a draft.
Planner Malloy stated that he does not feel that this is
going to turn into a kind of problem that the City
Council may envision. He explained that he has seen this
use (churches in the industrial area) elsewhere. He
explained that if, for example, that churches do pose a
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threat to tax base, it they were to own, only the portion
for which the church uses as its own spiritual purposes
would be subject or allowed to be tax exempt. He stated
that the rest of the property would still fall under tax
revenue producing. He stated that by controlling the
amount of square feet the church occupies, would dictate
the amount of tax revenue the City could lose.
Paster Zimmerman stated that why would any church want to
purchase a building in an industrial area. He stated
that if they could afford that, that they would purchase
land and build in a residential area. He explained that
they are paying taxes right now. He stated that it is
beneficial to the City, for tax purposes, to keep us
there.
Commissioner Friel stated that the Commission is
considering two issues tonight. One is to Amend the
Zoning Ordinance and the other is to consider a
conditional use permit for the church. He stated that
the Commission should analyze whether "churches" should
be in an "industrial" district.
Commissioner Duggan stated that he does not have a
problem within the church being with the industrial
district. Commissioner Duggan questioned if within the
lease agreement it stipulates that part of the rent goes
towards the taxes. Pastor Zimmerman confirmed that
within their lease agreement they are paying taxes.
Commissioner Friel stated that he has a problem with
changing the ordinance because of possible incompatible
uses when conditional use permit opens an industrial
district to churches. Commissioner Friel further stated
that the question of whether or not the Ordinance should
be amended to permit churches in an industrial district
was presented in the context of a request from a
particular church rather than being presented and
considered on the broader policy grounds of whether any
churches should be permitted in an industrial district.
Commissioner Koll stated that she had visited the site
and talked to the tenants next door. She stated that
they had no complaints. She questioned what the daytime
uses would be. Pastor Zimmerman stated that there is
presently a women's bible study group and that that has
not been a problem. Commissioner Koll stated that she
would like to see some restrictions to daytime uses since
there is a lack of parking. Pastor Zimmerman stated that
he does not have a problem with limiting daytime uses.
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He explained that he does not foresee using the
for a funeral. He stated that the size of the
would not be able to seat a large funeral.
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facility
facility
Commissioner Duggan stated that at their November
meeting, the emphasis in agreeing was that their
understanding that the churches estimated time was 3
years with a maximum of 5 years. Chair Dwyer stated that
at the present time, the church is occupying space
illegally. Public Works Director Danielson stated that
if the ordinance is not modified the church would have to
vacate the premise. Pastor Zimmerman stated that they
have expended roughly $4,000 in carpet, paint, etc. He
stated that their lease expires in September of 1992.
Public Works Director Danielson stated that modifications
to the building space would be necessary if they are
allowed to stay to comply with assembly occupancy codes.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
no one present to discuss this request.
Commissioner Duggan moved to close the public
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
There was
hearing.
Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend that the City
staff and City Attorney review this request further and
to find alternatives so that the church can have
additional time within the building.
Commissioner Duggan withdrew his motion.
Commissioner Koll moved to recommend that the City
Council amend the Zoning Ordinance to allow churches as
a Conditional Use in the Industrial Zone.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
Commissioner Duggan offered a friendly amendment
submitting amending language to the proposed Ordinance.
He added to Section 1 - 16.2(13) that the space be
limited to the church tenant to 3,000 square foot
maximum.
Pastor Zimmerman commented that they are hopeful of
growth in their rental space beyond 3,000 square feet
before they are able to afford their own church.
Vote on Amended Motion.
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Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend that the City
Council amend the Zoning Ordinance, incorporating the new
language as submitted by the Planning Commission,
allowing churches, as tenants, in office warehouse
buildings in the Industrial Zone.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
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Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend that the City
Council grant the Faith Church of Glory a Conditional Use
Permit with the following conditions:
a. The church must be compatible with its surrounding
uses and not cause problems with respect to parking.
b. Church activities will be regulated to prevent
parking shortages or the parking of vehicles on
lawns, in fire lanes, or other prohibited areas.
c. The church may not include any day care or other
educational programs for children which will result
in there being children on the property during
weekday business hours.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
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1, FRIEL
CASE NO.
KATZ -
VARIANCE
CRITICAL
Commissioner Friel stated that he voted against the
request because he is concerned about the potential for
incompatible uses neighboring to a church.
91-06:
AND
AREA MODIFIED SITE REVIEW
In response to a letter submitted by Mr. Katz's neighbor,
Commissioner Duggan moved to table this request to March
26th so that Mr. Katz's neighbors could have ample time
to review his request. Mr. Katz did not have a problem
with his request being tabled.
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Commissioner Friel seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
VERBAL REVIEW
Public Works Director Danielson provided a verbal review
for the planning items at the previous City Council
meeting.
MISCELLANEOUS
ADJOURN
Commissioner Duggan requested City staff to review the
Wetlands Ordinance in conjunction with No Net Loss
Legislation. He further stated that he would not
be present for the March meeting. Commissioner Krebsbach
stated that she too would not be present for the March
meeting.
There being no further business, the Planning Commission
adjourned its meeting at 10:35 o'clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary