1991-05-28 Planning Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MAY 28, 1991
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was
held on Tuesday, May 28, 1991, in the City Hall Council Chambers,
1101 Victoria Curve. Chairperson Dwyer called the meeting to order
at 7:30 o'clock P.M. The following Commission members were
present: Dwyer, Dreelan, Duggan and Tilsen. Commissioner
Krebsbach had notified the Commission that she would be attending
the meeting late. Commissioners Koll and Friel were excused. Also
present were Public Works Director Jim Danielson, Planning
Consultant Tim Malloy, Administrative Assistant Kevin Batchelder
and Senior Secretary Kim Blaeser.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Duggan moved approval of the April 23, 1991,
Minutes.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
CASE NO. 91-13:
GREGOIRE -
WETLANDS PERMIT
Mr. John Gregoire, of 2452 Pond Circle East, was present
to discuss his request for a Wetlands Permit in order to
construct a deck in the rear yard of his home to within
seventy-five feet (75') of the Wetlands.
Mr. Gregoire explained that the proposed deck will be an
open deck and that very little foliage will be removed.
Commissioner Duggan questioned the accuracy of the
setback measurement on the site plan. He stated that he
would like to see the City staff verify the setback
measurements.
Chair Dwyer noted that Mr. Gregoire has received
signatures of consent from his surrounding neighbors.
Commissioner Duggan moved to waive the public hearing.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
CASE NO.
HAGSTROM
WETLANDS
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
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Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend that the City
Council grant the requested Wetlands Permit subject to
City staff verification of the setback measurement of
seventy-five feet (75').
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
91-14:
PERMIT
Mr. Gary Hagstrom, of 2249 Pond Circle West, was present
to discuss his request for a Wetlands Permit to allow
construction of a deck 73.5 feet from the Wetlands in his
rear yard. He explained that the proposed deck will be
a two level deck.
Chair Dwyer stated that Mr. Hagstrom has received
signatures of consent from his surrounding neighbors.
Commissioner Duggan moved to waive the public hearing.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend that the City
Council grant the requested Wetlands Permit to allow
construction of a deck within 73.5 feet of the Wetlands.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
CASE NO. 91-16:
SKAR -
WETLANDS PERMIT
Mr. Duane Skar, of 2491 Pond Circle West, was present to
discuss his request for a Wetlands Permit to allow
construction of a five foot (5') vinyl clad chain link
fence which will enclose his rear yard. He explained
that the proposed fence will be within thirty-three feet
(33') of the Wetlands and will not be located within the
scenic easement. He further explained that his rear yard
abuts the Hagstrom-King Park and that a fence would help
protect his property and children from the public park.
He further stated that the visual impact of the fence
will be minimal.
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Chair Dwyer stated that Mr. Skar has received signatures
of consent from his surrounding neighbors.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that he does not like fences
and that a fence should not be used to supervise
children. He stated that children can climb fences. He
questioned if any vegetation will be destroyed. Mr. Skar
responded that he realizes that a fence should not be
used to supervise children, but that his property does
abut a public park and that he feels it would be in his
best interest to erect the fence. He stated that no
vegetation will be destroyed.
Commissioner Duggan moved to waive the public hearing.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend that the City
Council grant the requested Wetlands Permit to allow
construction of a five foot (5') vinyl clad chain link
fence within thirty-three feet (33') of the Wetlands.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
CASE NO. 91-15:
MARVIN H. ANDERSON CONSTRUCTION -
WETLANDS PERMIT
Mr. Fred Haas, of Marvin H. Anderson Construction Company
was present to discuss their request for Wetlands Permits
within the Second Addition of Bridgeview Shores.
Mr. Haas explained that when Mary Anderson Construction
first submitted preliminary plans for the overall
development, they were not aware that the topography was
not adjusted to the boundary survey correctly. He stated
that when the final plat was completed, the shore lines
were measured to the lot corners and it was shown now in
a different location. He stated that their request is to
now revise the setbacks so that construction of new homes
can be accomplished without having to re-submit to the
City for variances.
Mr. Haas explained that the Commission should not review
the requested Wetlands setback adjustment for Lot 9,
Block 1, Bridgeview Shores 2nd Addition. He stated that
they were able to reconfigure the deck so that it will be
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placed behind the garage of the home and conform to the
original Wetlands setback approval.
Commissioner Duggan stated that in 1988 and 1989 the land
was cleared off. He questioned if surface water runoff
is causing the ponds to increase in depth. Mr. Haas
stated that both ponds are controlled by storm sewer
pipes. He stated that the surface water runoff is not
as high now as it will be when the houses are built.
Commissioner Tilsen briefly stated his concerns regarding
the house pad setback proximity to the Wetlands. He
stated that he would like to see the setbacks not go
below a fifty foot (50') Wetlands setback. He asked Mr.
Haas if the homes could be designed to accommodate this
concern. Mr. Haas stated that he could redesign the
homes so that they will be two car garage homes instead
of three car garage homes.
Chair Dwyer noted that this was not a public hearing.
In response to a question from Commissioner Duggan, Mr.
Haas stated that Mary Anderson Construction and the
homeowners in the area want to keep the area as natural
as possible.
Commissioner Krebsbach arrived at 8:05 o'clock P.M.
Mr. Haas commented that the air plane noise has been a
real problem and that they have lost a lot of customers
due to the noise while they were out reviewing the sites.
The Planning Commission further discussed increasing the
Wetlands setback on Lot 8 to sixty feet (60'). Mr. Haas
stated that there would be no problem. Commissioner
Tilsen stated that he would like to see Lot 4 remain at
the approved sixty foot (60') setback and Mr. Haas stated
that would be fine.
Chair Dwyer questioned if there will be the use of
siltation barriers. Mr. Haas stated that the barriers
will be at pond level. Mr. Haas stated that they are
very particular and that they will be maintained
properly.
Commissioner Tilsen moved to waive the public hearing.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
CASE NO.
BRUBER -
WETLANDS
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Commissioner Tilsen moved to recommend that the City
Council grant the following Wetlands setback adjustments
all in Block 1, Bridgeview Shores 2nd Addition:
Lot 3 - 50' (originally approved at 65')
Lot 4 - 60' (originally approved at 60')
Lot 7 - 50' (originally approved at 65')
Lot 8 - 70' (originally approved at 85')
Lot 11 - 97' (originally approved at 88')
Lot 12 - 83' (originally approved at 83')
Lot 9 will remain at the original approved setback of
70
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Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
91-12:
PERMIT
Jay Bruber, of 1852 South Lane and Mr. Ross Erickson,
Eagan Pool and Spa were present to discuss Mr. Bruber's
request for a Wetlands Permit to allow construction of a
swimming pool within his back yard.
Mr. Erickson stated that the permit request is for sixty-
seven feet. He further stated that the type of fence
will be wrought iron. Mr. Bruber stated that there will
be minimal visual impact to his neighbors to the south.
He stated that his neighbors to the northwest will not be
able to see the fence.
Mr. Erickson pointed out that Mr. Bruber has received
signatures of consent from his neighbors.
In response to a question from Commissioner Duggan, Mr.
Erickson stated that the pool depth will be eight feet
(8') and that there will be drain piping and rock
installed under the pool. Mr. Erickson briefly explained
how the pumping system will work. He stated that the
pool liner will begin to float to show any imbalance of
water from the exterior.
Mr. Erickson stated that the fence will be installed
around the parameter of the concrete. He further
explained that between the existing deck and the concrete
will be between 24 to 34 feet (east to west). Mr.
Erickson briefly reviewed the drawings as submitted to
the Planning Commission. He pointed out the new
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
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elevations as created when the home was constructed as a
walkout home. Mr. Erickson noted that the solid line on
the plans represents the new existing grade elevations.
Commissioner Krebsbach questioned if the Bruber's had
planned on constructing a pool at the time of their
initial request for a Wetlands Permit. Mr. Bruber
responded that they had some ideas but that that would be
several years into the future. Commissioner Krebsbach
stated that the Bruber's should have addressed their pool
location at the time the initial Wetlands Permit was
approved. She stated that the grading of the walkout did
not allow the rest of the lot to be used for the pool
thus necessitating the need for another Wetlands Permit.
Mr. Bruber noted that he has formed an association to
protect the pond and that he has concerns for the
Wetlands area.
Mr. Erickson submitted a landscape plan for the
Commission to review.
Commissioner Duggan moved to waive the public hearing.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend that the City
Council grant a Wetlands Permit to allow construction of
a swimming pool within sixty-seven feet (67') of the
Wetlands subject to the submission of landscape plans to
City staff and City Council.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 1, KREBSBACH
HEARING --
CASE NO. 91-09:
HNTB -
CUP FOR ESSENTIAL SERVICE STRUCTURE -
AIR NOISE MONITORS
Mr. Bob Vorpahl and Mr. Eric Johnson, representing the
Metropolitan Airports Commission (MAC) were present to
discuss their request for a conditional use permit to
allow the location of two remote noise monitoring towers
in the City of Mendota Heights.
Mr. Vorpahl explained that there are twenty-four sites
that have been chosen within communities that surround
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the airport. He stated that Mendota Heights has two of
these sites.
Chair Dwyer pointed out that Mendota Heights currently
receives over 60 percent of air noise and inquired why
Mendota Heights is only receiving two percent of the
noise monitors. Mr. Vorpahl responded that the MAC does
have plans to introduce a third tower to Mendota Heights
in the future. He stated that the twenty-four sites are
for the first phase only. He stated that they have the
capability in the future to double that number.
Commissioner Krebsbach questioned why a noise monitor is
being placed within the Furlong area when it is known by
all how severe the air craft noise is there. She stated
that it would be to the City's benefit to install a noise
monitor north of Highway 110. She stated that air craft
noise is affecting other neighborhoods in Mendota Heights
and not just the Furlong neighborhood.
Mr. Vorpahl stated, at this time, the total cost of the
noise monitors will be $989,000. He stated that the
monitors are considered state of the art equipment.
Public Works Director Danielson stated that the City
Council approved the two site locations in 1989 and 1990.
He stated that the Council felt it would be to the City's
benefit to install the towers in the Furlong neighborhood
since the air noise is known to be severe and Mendota
Heights noise will be compared to that being generated at
the other 22 locations. Administrative Batchelder
concurred and further stated that the siting of the noise
monitors in these neighborhoods had been reviewed by our
noise consultants, Mr. David Braslau and Bob Collette,
who had concurred with MAC's proposed locations.
Mr. Vorpahl stated that the MAC has taken bids on the
different types of systems and that this particular
system is the most aesthetically pleasing.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Mr. Vorpahl
stated that the noise patterns will be automatically
relayed via telephone through MAC computers. He stated
that the air craft noise has a significant noise pattern
and that surrounding noise (i.e. - vehicles, wind, trees,
etc) will not interfere with the gathering of data.
Mr. Vorpahl submitted pictures of the Larson-Davis "Tilt
Down System" currently being used in Salt Lake City. He
stated that this system will be used here. He explained
that the system is a locked system and that there will be
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very little maintenance needed as long as it is not
tampered with.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Mr. Vorpahl
stated that the tower height will be twenty feet (20')
(measured to the top of the microphone). He stated that
NSP will not allow them to install the microphone on
existing NSP utility poles.
Planner Malloy pointed out that at the time he prepared
his report, the MAC was unsure of the type of system they
would be using. He stated that the system they have
chosen is the most aesthetically pleasing and that
landscaping would not be necessary.
Chair Dwyer then opened the meeting to the public.
Mr. Berskow, 1305 Furlong Avenue, questioned if guy wires
would be used. He further questioned where the tower
will be placed at 1307 Furlong Avenue. Mr. Vorpahl
stated that guy wires will not be used and that the tower
will be installed in the City's right-of-way by the NSP
utility pole.
Mr. Vorpahl stated that the MAC has been working with NSP
for several months with respect to bringing electrical
service to the tower. He stated that they will need a
heating and cooling system and that meters may not be
needed. He stated that NSP has indicated that they will
charge a flat rate. He stated that the NSP has copies
of site plans showing the locations of each tower.
Mr. Vorpahl stated that they will work with City staff
and the City Council on the final locations of the
towers.
Commissioner Duggan moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend that the City
Council grant a Conditional Use Permit to allow the
erection of two noise monitor towers in Mendota Heights.
He further moved that the MAC is to work with City staff
and the City Council to determine the final location of
the noise monitor towers.
Commissioner Krebsbach offered a friendly amendment
stating that the City Council consider adding a third
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
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noise monitor north of Highway 110.
Commissioner Duggan accepted the friendly amendment.
Commissioner Dreelan seconded the original motion and
friendly amendment.
Mr. Vorpahl stated that they anticipate the installation
to take place in early Fall.
PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner Duggan stated that at a recent City Council
meeting the issue of inadequate soccer sites within the
City of Mendota Heights was discussed amongst Sibley
Sting soccer coaches and the City Council. He stated
that the soccer community within Mendota Heights is under
represented and that he would like to urge the City
Council to give more consideration to the soccer
community.
Commissioner Duggan moved to recommend that the City
Council adopt and implement acquiring more land for
soccer fields within Mendota Heights and that they should
pursue looking into adding a soccer field at Mendakota
Park.
Commissioner Krebsbach seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
VERBAL REVIEW
Public Works Director Danielson provided a verbal review
for the planning items at the previous City Council
meeting. He also informed the Commission of Council's
desire to have more specific recommendations when
recommending such items as "landscaping".
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the Planning Commission
adjourned its meeting at 9:33 o'clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary