1998-01-27 Planning Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
JANUARY 27, 1998
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was held on
Tuesday, January 27, 1998, in the Council Chambers at City Hall, 1101 Victoria
Curve. The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. The following members were
present: Dwyer, Koll, Friel, Betlej, Lorberbaum, Duggan and Tilsen. Also present
were Public Works Director Jim Danielson, Planner Meg McMonigal, Administrative
Assistant Patrick Hollister and Senior Secretary Kim Blaeser.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Friel moved approval of the November 25, 1998 minutes with
corrections.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
CASE NO. 97-42:
PARK - VARIANCE
Chair Dwyer explained that at their November 25, 1997 meeting, the
Commission voted to continue discussion on Mr. Park's request for a
variance which would allow the construction of a fence at 2246 Field Stone
Drive which would allow time for the applicant and the applicant's neighbor,
Mr. John Parritz, to answer questions about the proposed fence.
Mr. John Parritz, neighbor directly impacted with the construction of the
fence, informed the Commission that he is the driving force behind the Parks
requesting the variance. He stated that he would like to see Mr. Krohn's
fence, located along Delaware Avenue just south of Huber Drive, be
extended. He stated that the fence extension will follow the same track as
the existing fence and will be built with the same color and style.
Mr. Parritz explained that he experienced a burglary in September and at that
time, the Police Department suggested that a fence be constructed. He
stated that the fence would be placed on the Parks' property and that they,
along with other neighbors in the area, agreed and all signed the signature of
consentform.
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Chair Dwyer explained that the Parks' property is bounded by two parallel
streets which creates a hardship. He stated that the request encompasses a
height and 30 percent opacity variance. Mr. Parritz provided the Commission
with photographs which illustrated the existing fence. He stated that he
would like for the fence to extend as far as it can. Chair Dwyer stated that
the existing fence seems a little unstable.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that the area is wooded and that he would like to
see the woods maintained on both sides of the fence. Mr. Parritz stated that
he intends to fill in the old road and return it to its natural state.
Commissioner Koll stated that the area is highly visible and that additional
shrubbery will help.
Chair Dwyer noted his concern for establishing a precedent with other
neighbors in the area who may choose to extend the fence through their
backyards. He stated that he does not want to create a "gated community"
Mr. Parritz informed the Commission that this would be hard to do because
the topography of the land would not allow the extension of the fence.
Commissioner Friel informed the Commission that this request is yet another
example of why the Council should consider amending the Ordinance to
allow variances where no clear hardship exists but there is minimal input and
consent from the neighbors. He stated that he felt no real hardship has been
established. He stated that by approving such a request, leaves the door
open for other homes in the City who have double frontage.
Commissioner Betlej inquired if the old fence posts would be removed. Mr.
Parritz responded yes. Betlej stated that the drawing indicates that a portion
of the fence will be on Mr. Parritz's property. Mr. Parritz explained that plan.
Commissioner Duggan stated that it would be nice if the end of the fence
staggered down. Mr. Parritz explained how the fence would be constructed
and that staggering the fence would not work within the terrain and that the
current design would be more aesthetically pleasing. He explained that the
fence height will not be higher than six feet because where needed, the
grade will be raised.
Commissioner Duggan moved to waive the public hearing.
Commissioner Lorberbaum seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
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Commissioner Lorberbaum moved to recommend that the City Council grant
a three foot variance for a six foot solid board fence with the following
conditions:
1 The side of the fence considered to be the face (the side opposite the
post) shall face Delaware Avenue.
2. The fence shall be located entirely on the Parks' property.
3. The fence extend south from the existing fence and match in materials
and color.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 0
ABSTAIN: 1, FRIEL
HEARING:
CASE NO. 97-42:
RATCHYE - LOT ADJUSTMENT
Mr. Boyd Ratchye, of 970 Wagon Wheel Trail, was present to discuss his
request for a lot adjustment of 3,630 square feet of property between the
properties at 970 and 980 Wagon Wheel Trail.
Mr. Ratchye explained that the homes at 970 and 980 Wagon Wheel Trail
share an access drive. He explained that Mr. and Mrs. Pabst, 980 Wagon
Wheel Trail, had originally owned the land and when they subdivided their
property, a flag lot was created. He stated that the Pabsts have agreed to
deed his front yard (Parcel C) to himself and his wife.
Commissioner Betlej stated that the lot adjustment will create a problem with
the Pabst's driveway setback. He stated that this lot adjustment will create
the need for a five foot variance. Commissioner Tilsen stated that the
distance between the corner and the new lot line also seems minimal. Mr.
Ratchye stated that the driveway is a horse shoe design and is shared by
three homeowners and that there have been no problems with using the
driveway. He stated that the driveway is wide enough for two cars to pass.
Commissioners Tilsen and Betlej noted their concerns with creating a non-
complying use.
Commissioner Duggan moved to close the public hearing.
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Commissioner Friel seconded the motion.
Commissioner Friel moved to recommend that the City Council approve the
lot adjustment for 970 and 980 Wagon Wheel Trail be approved.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
AYES: 6
NAYS: 1, BETLEJ
i'NEARIFI,G:
CASE NO. 98-1:
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Ms. Emily Comb, of 636 South Freeway Road, was present to discuss her
request for a subdivision of one lot into two located at 636 South Freeway
Road.
Chair Dwyer stated that with this subdivision, each of the new lots would
meet the subdivision and zoning requirements. He stated that access to the
new lot would be from South Lane.
Chair Dwyer informed the Commission that a letter had been received from
Mr. and Mrs. Philip Goldman, of 1926 South Lane, who expressed their
concerns that by granting this subdivision, it is done so in a manner that will
not require any variances and create a bad precedent, or otherwise affect the
issues raised in 1988 when their neighbors at 1940 South Lane requested a
subdivision with a variance.
Commissioner Tilsen noted his concern with a portion of the lot, where the
shed is located, seemed low. He inquired if it is a buildable lot. Ms. Comb
stated that she mows the area and that it is not low. She stated that there
has never been standing water in this area. Commissioner Duggan stated
that the survey indicates a five foot drop in this area. Commissioner Tilsen
stated that he would like some history on this lot. He inquired if utilities are
available to this lot. Public Works Director Danielson stated that sewer and
water is in the street.
In response to a question regarding drainage, Public Works Director Danielson
stated that it appears that the drainage would flow to the south and
southeast. He stated that he does not anticipate any problems with drainage
in this area.
Commissioner Friel reminded the Commission that Ms. Comb is applying for
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a subdivision and that her request meets the requirements under the
Subdivision Ordinance. Commissioner Tilsen stated that he is concerned
with a lot being created within an infill development where planning issues
may not have been handled most appropriately in the past. He inquired if a
drainage easement is necessary. Betlej stated that the drainage and utility
easements should be a part of the survey. Betlej inquired if the shed will be
removed. Ms. Comb responded yes.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
There was no one present to discuss this issue.
Commissioner Duggan moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Lorberbaum seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Friel moved to recommend that the City Council approve the
Subdivision for 636 South Freeway Road as it meets the ordinance
requirements for subdividing one lot into two lots with the following
conditions:
1. That the significant trees on the southern portion of the lot be saved
and protected during construction; and
2. That the shed be removed.
Commissioner Lorberbaum seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
CASE NO. 98-03:
THORBECK - CONCEPT PUD DISCUSSION
Mr. Duane Thorbeck, of Thor Company, was present to discuss a request for
concept plan review for a residential Planned Unit Development for 9.4 acres
of land located on the northwest corner of Delaware Avenue and Huber
Drive.
Mr. Thorbeck introduced Sharon Thorbeck and the owners of the 9.4 acres,
Mr. and Mrs. Roger Shepard to the Commission.
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Mr. Thorbeck stated that he lives in this area and that he believes that the
proposed development lends itself to be developed as a unique concept. He
stated that the landscaping will dictate the home sites within this
development. He further stated that with the platting of this development,
land for a turn lane from Delaware Avenue to Huber Drive would be
dedicated to the County.
Thorbeck stated that the homes are proposed to be "nestled" into the
landscape, and that each home will be designed specifically for its site and
designed of an "organic architecture of horizontal lines and planes, with
details abstracted from the prairie/country environment.
He stated that a new street to, serve the development will be designed as a
country lane of 24 feet in width, with ditch drainage versus curb and gutter.
He stated that they would like to explore the possibility of this road being a
private street.
Thorbeck stated that the power lines on the south side of the property will
remain undisturbed. He stated that the buffer along Delaware Will be
adjusted and that they will be working with the County to create landscaping
along this street. He stated that they are considering planting coniferous
trees.
Thorbeck stated that this development will be pursued in four phases. He
explained that the first phase will develop the road and five houses. He
stated that the second and third phase will add more homes to the
development. Regarding Phase 4, he and his wife have first option to
purchase the Shepard home and remaining land.
Thorbeck stated that the proposed planned unit development is slightly less
than the Zoning Ordinance requirement of 10 acres. He stated that this
property has many natural features to be taken into account when the lots
are designed and that the PUD process is appropriate in this case. He stated
the lot sizes average 40,000 square feet.
Chair Dwyer inquired about the construction time line. Mr. Thorbeck stated
that they hope to begin in April 1998. Chair Dwyer inquired if there have
been discussions with Dakota County to turn the Shepard's driveway into a
curb cut on Delaware Avenue. Mr. Thorbeck responded no. He explained
that a cul-de-sac will be constructed and that a through road to Delaware
Avenue will be completed when Phase 4 is completed.
Commissioner Koll inquired if there will be a homeowner's association. Mr.
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Thorbeck stated yes, if the road private. Commissioner Friel stated that he
has concerns for private streets. He stated that private streets become
public streets at the expense of the community. He stated that he is
concerned that there will not be adequate turnaround spacing for public
safety vehicles. Thorbeck stated that the proposed length of the cul-de-sac
is 600 feet. Chair Dwyer inquired if there will be a curb cut on Huber Drive.
Commissioner Tilsen inquired about the drainage. Mr. Thorbeck explained
that an overflow outlet will flow to Huber Drive and into the storm sewer.
Tilsen inquired if the developer will maintain the setback requirements for
wetlands. Thorbeck stated that the footprints may be within the 100 foot
high level water mark. Tilsen stated that there is high level of vehicle noise
on Delaware Avenue. He stated that Lot 1 appears to be close to Delaware
Avenue and he inquired how the developer intends to create noise buffers.
Thorbeck responded that earth berms will deflect the noise.
Commissioner Betlej wondered if it is good policy for the City to approve a
development with roads without curb and gutter when the City is currently in
the process of reconstructing roads in the community currently without curb
and gutter. Commissioner Duggan stated that the proposed road is within
keeping of the proposed development. He also confirmed that the City
allows 500 foot cul-de-sacs.
In response to a question from Commissioner Tilsen, Public Works Director
Danielson stated that it is best to develop public streets. He stated public
services such as snow plowing, street patching and seal coating are not
provided to private streets.
Commissioner Duggan stated that it will take approximately six years for the
entire development to be completed and that during this time, there will be
no through street to Delaware Avenue. Mr. Thorbeck concurred.
Commissioner Duggan stated that the plan appears to be excellent and in
keeping with the area. Commissioner Koll concurred. She stated that she is
concerned with approving a development with private streets. Commissioner
Friel concurred.
Commissioner Tilsen suggested that it may be an easier to not process this
development as a PUD. He stated that the developer may be able to meet
the lot sizes and setback requirements without a PUD. Mr. Thorbeck stated
that they would like to pursue this development as a PUD because of the
character of the land.
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DISCUSS SIBLEY ACTIVITY
CENTER PROPOSAL
Administrative Assistant Hollister informed the Commission that the City
Council has requested that the Planning and Parks and Recreation
Commissions review materials and to share their reactions related to the
Sibley Activity Center.
Hollister informed the Commission that the information given to the City, at
this time, is that the City contribute $15,000 a year towards the activity
center.
Chair Dwyer stated that he had recently visited the Woodbury facility and
thought it to be an impressive and gorgeous facility. He stated that it would
be wonderful to have such a facility available for the community to use. He
inquired about the School District's priorities in that they are currently
reducing its budget, in particular, bus transportation.
Mr. David Jackson, Activity Center Task Force member and ISD No. 197
School Board Member, stated that there are two versions of the activity
center. He stated that they have been researching the Woodbury site. He
informed the Commission that they are considering including a swimming
pool along with a soccer dome and hockey rink along with space for a senior
center.
Jackson stated that the school board has received a petition calling for a
special bond election to finance the construction of an activity center on the
campus of Henry Sibley High School.
He explained that the task force has received positive comments from St.
Thomas Academy, Visitation, Eagan, WSP, Mendota Heights Athletic, Sting
parents, Sibley Area Hockey, Sibley Wings (girls hockey) and Sibley football.
He stated that these are good and solid endorsements.
Jackson informed the Commission that the at the present time, the School
Board has requested opinions from the State Attorney General's Office
concerning some issue with the petition calling for a special bond election.
He stated that the task force is hopeful for a spring special election.
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Jackson submitted a fact sheet which included an analysis of cashf low and
information on the following:
1. Senior Community Center - 12, 000 square feet
2. Ice Arena - 35,000 square feet (plus)
3. Soccer Dome - 45,000 (plus) square feet playing surface
4. Swimming Pool
5. Benefits
Jackson stated that the cash flow analysis does not included cost estimates
related to the swimming pool.
Commissioner Tilsen inquired if the activity center will create a new footprint
on the campus site. Mr. Jackson explained that the south side of the
building, lower lot area which runs parallel with Delaware Avenue has been
considered. He added that they are considering the old tennis court site,
football practice hill and also the old loading dock area. Jackson stated that
they would also like to construct a water feature pool, similar to the one in
South St. Paul in this area as well. Jackson informed the Commission that
the task force is. privately funded and low. on cash and that no other
scenarios have been pursued.
In response to a question from Commissioner Friel regarding financial
commitment with the City, Mr. Jackson stated that they hope to receive
$30,000 from Cities of Mendota Heights and West St. Paul. He stated that
this amount will not make or break this deal. He added that it is hoped that
the facility will generate its own revenue from ice time and soccer
commitments.
Chair Dwyer asked Mr. Jackson to explained if the district is experiencing
budget cutbacks. Jackson responded that there is always a period of
adjustment (speaking about the two middle schools). He stated that
reductions are a part of an annual process.
Chair Dwyer inquired how the school board feels about this proposal. Mr.
Jackson stated the majority of the board is opposed to the plan.
The Commission briefly discussed their concerns about the feasibility of
being able to fund the facility without public tax support. Mr. Jackson stated
that the task force would like to go to the community and solicit escrow
funds. He explained that the escrow would help prevent another levy should
funds run low. He stated that the Inver Grove Heights arena has done this.
Jackson stated that he has spoken with professional groups and architects
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who have stated that they do not know of an arena that does not pay for
itself.
Commissioner Duggan suggested that a more comprehensive plan be
submitted. Jackson explained that the task force is running very low on
funds. He stated that to arrive at the plans they have, several companies
have donated their services.
Commissioner Koll stated that she would like to see additional need
assessments. She stated that she feels the need for a more cohesive
community. She stated she would like to see this center include a teen
center, child care facility, coffee house and library.
Commissioner Friel stated that the School District should consider not
holding the election in a single place. He stated that while the District
believes they are saving money in keeping the election in one place, it is
denying people the opportunity to cast a ballot because they normally vote in
a different precinct. Mr. Jackson stated that his point is well taken.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that he has seen many facilities and that this is
an opportunity for our youth to play in their own facility. He stated this is a
great opportunity for the community and that he is anxious to see how this is
debated over the months to come. Tilsen further stated that this activity
center is a separate issue from district issues. He stated that he is very
concerned with the current state of the school district's budget and the
anticipated cuts related to staff and transportation.
Chair Dwyer noted that the majority of the Commission seems intrigued and
somewhat excited about the possibility of having an indoor hockey, soccer,
swimming pool and senior facility built within the district. He stated that the
Commission would like to see the feasibility and cost factors be further
explored before the City makes any commitments.
DISCUSS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND
USE ANALYSIS
Planner McMonigal was present to update the Planning Commission on the
Comprehensive Plan amendment process.
She explained that she has been working on items specifically identified by
the City Council and advisory commissions as high priority issues. The
following priority issues were identified:
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1 Mississippi Area River Plan
2. Airport Noise Issues - Action Plan
3. Land Use - Vacant Land
She explained that the Garron/Acacia site and Resurrection site are two of
the five sites the City has identified as high priority sites.
Planner McMonigal stated that there are no development proposals for the
Garron/Acacia site. She stated that the Garron site is 5.5 acres and the
Acacia site is 17 acres. Mr. John Allen owns the Garron site and Acacia
Cemetery owns the Acacia site.
Planner McMonigal explained the Garron site is adjacent to Highway 55 and
sits on the second bluff line of the Minnesota River. She stated that the
most distinctive features of this site are the views of Fort Snelling,
downtown Minneapolis and the river valley. She stated that access to
Garron/Acacia sites is somewhat difficult.
McMonigal stated that this area is known as a gateway to the community.
She stated that the Comprehensive Plan designation is High Density
Residential and the Zoning is Business Park and High Density Residential.
Regarding the description of land use issues, McMonigal stated that this site
is located in the Met Council's airport noise zone 3. While residential
development with a shared entrance is currently consistent with the City's
noise attenuation ordinance, under the newly revised Aviation Policy Plan of
the Met Council, it is considered inconsistent for new development or
conditional or provisional for "infill" development. The Commission inquired
about the Met Council's definition for "infill". Planner McMonigal stated she
would research the definition and provide the information to the Commission
in February.
McMonigal stated that this property is designated as B-1 A on the Acacia
property which is not consistent with the HR, high density residential use
designation on the Comprehensive Plan. She stated that this designation will
have to be brought into compliance.
McMonigal explained that if this property were to be developed under the
existing guidelines this year, high density residential with shared entrances
would be permitted. McMonigal further explained that new guidelines have
been issued by the Met Council for development within Air Noise Zone 3:
educational and medical, (including nursing homes, schools, churches and
hospitals); cultural, entertainment and recreational; office, commercial and
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retail; services; industrial; agricultural. She stated that each parcel could be
designated and zoned for any of the above uses.
McMonigal stated that the parcels could be placed into a holding zone for
residential uses until after 2005 when the north/south runway and all Stage
3 aircraft are in operation. She stated that the MAC believes the noise
contours will shrink at that time. Commissioner Friel stated that the holding
zone pattern is not a good idea because the City cannot deny someone use
of their property.
Commissioner Tilsen inquired if the cultural, entertainment and recreational
includes parks and golf courses.
Commissioner Betlej inquired if the City has received any input from affected
landowners. Planner McMonigal answered no. The Commission felt it
important to include landowners during the coming months because the City
may be unaware of potential developments. Planner McMonigal informed the
Commission that she hopes to complete discussion on land use issues, with
the Commission, by June.
Regarding the Resurrection site, Public Works Director Danielson informed
the Commission that Hoffmann Homes is currently working with the Met
Council regarding their proposed development. Planner McMonigal informed
the Commission that the City received a letter from the Met Council asking
that the Hoffmann request be modified to be consistent with the noise zone
plan.
The Commission directed Planner McMonigal to generate a table which
includes information comparing all properties under the current designations
and future designations. The Commission also felt that a letter specifically
giving them direction on what is necessary to update the comprehensive plan
would be helpful. Planner McMonigal agreed and stated that she would also
provide the Commission with a copy of the Met Council Air Noise Guidelines.
Public Works Director Danielson gave a brief review of Council action
regarding previous planning applications.
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There being no further business, the Planning Commission adjourned its
meeting at 10:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary
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