1998-07-28 Planning Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
JULY 28, 1998
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was held on
Tuesday, July 28, 1998, in the Council Chambers at City Hall, 1101 Victoria
Curve. The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. The following members were
present: Koll, Betlej, Duggan and Tilsen. Chair Dwyer and Commissioners Friel and
Lorberbaum were excused. Also present were Public Works Director Jim
Danielson, Planner Meg McMonigal, Administrative Assistant Patrick Hollister and
Senior Secretary Kim Blaeser.
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Commissioner Tilsen moved approval of the June 23, 1998 minutes with
corrections.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
AYES: 3
NAYS: 0
ABSTAIN: 1, BETLEJ
CASE NO. 98-25:
MACZKO - SETBACK VARIANCE
Mr. and Mrs. John Maczko, of 751 Cheyenne Lane, were present to discuss
their request for a rear yard setback variance which would allow the
construction of a three season porch within 25 feet of the rear property line,
versus 30 feet as required by the Zoning Ordinance. *
Mr. Maczko stated that his family has lived in the home since 1983 and that
he has been a long time resident of the City. He stated that over the years,
he has made significant improvements to his home. Maczko stated that the
lots in Friendly Hills are relatively small and that his lot is approximately
9,000 square feet.
Maczko stated that his neighbors support his proposal. He stated that the
property directly behind his home is Friendly Hills Marsh Park.
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Maczko stated that his hardship is that his lot is not big enough to
accommodate his request. Maczko explained that they looked at providing a
room that would not require a variance and felt that a room 9' wide by 24'
long would look and feel more like a bowling alley than a living space.
Commissioner Koll stated that she visited the site and that she noticed that
there is a patio and fence where the addition will be placed. She stated that
the grade slightly drops off and that there is a fire pit in the back yard. She
stated that there is a park in the Maczko's backyard and that the addition will
not sit on top of another resident's property. She stated that the addition
will be an asset to the neighborhood which is reflected by the fact that all
the neighbors have signed the consent form. She stated that a 9' x 24'
room does not make sense.
Commissioner Betlej stated that he visited the site. He stated that the
Zoning Ordinance has been written for a more modern community and that
this lot is considered, by today's zoning ordinance standards, to be non-
conforming. He stated that with this in mind, a hardship has been
established. He stated that he supports reinvesting in property value.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that the City has seen a number of variance
requests within the Friendly Hills neighborhood. He stated that the request
seems reasonable.
Vice Chair Duggan inquired if the two red fences will be removed. Mr.
Maczko responded yes. Duggan stated that the City has granted similar
requests in the past, particularly within the Friendly Hills neighborhood.
At Mr. Maczko's request, Vice Chair Duggan polled the Commission to see if
there would be support for an additional two feet of variance to allow for a
sixteen foot wide porch. All but Commissioner Tilsen said yes.
Commissioner Koll moved to recommend that the City Council approve a five
foot rear yard variance which would allow the construction of a 14' x 24'
three season porch.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
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HEARING:
CASE NO. 98-22:
JOHNSON - PRELIMINARY PLAT
Mr. Dale Johnson, owner of 4.82 acres of land located north of Alice Lane,
was present to discuss his request to subdivide this property into 8 lots. Mr.
Johnson explained that this plat would include three existing homes as well
as five new lots.
Vice Chair Duggan accepted a letter from Mr. Johnson which responds to
City Planner McMonigal's concerns within her July 17, 1998 Planner's
Report.
Mr. Johnson explained that three of the lots will be 1/2 acre in size and that
the remaining two lots will be slightly smaller and that they meet the 15,000
square foot requirement.
Mr. Johnson stated that the front lot widths will be 90 feet for Lot 2 and 64
feet for Lots 3,4 and 5. He stated that these lot widths are of the same
configuration as the adjacent cul-de-sacs of Rogers Court and Swan Drive.
In response to a question regarding the developer of the Rogers Court and
Swan Drive cul-de-sacs, Mr. Johnson responded that the property was
developed by Mr. Eide.
In response to a question from Vice Chair Duggan, Public Works Director
Danielson explained that mailed notice went out to property owners within
350 feet of Mr. Johnson's property. He explained that as a requirement of
the Subdivision Ordinance, Mr. Johnson is required to submit a map which
depicts property ownership within 150 feet of the proposed development.
Vice Chair Duggan stated that with the purchase of land by the Omodt's, Lot
2 will be 15,086 square feet. He inquired about the taxability of the new
land when the Omodts acquire the property. Public Works Director Danielson
stated that the entire property will be replatted and that Lot 1 will become
one large lot. He stated that Dakota County will handle this process.
Mr. Johnson informed the Commission that there are quite a few pine trees
on the property. He stated that there are walnut trees behind Lot 4 and that
Lots 3 and 4 have several pine trees. He stated that it is his intention to not
bother these trees. Vice Chair Duggan stated that a tree survey is required.
Commissioner Betlej inquired about the location of the trees on Lot 4. Mr.
Johnson responded approximately 20 feet from the NSP service road. He
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stated that there is no possible way a house will be constructed that far back
on the lot.
Regarding the proposed two smaller lots, Mr. Johnson explained that he is
trying to utilize the space as efficiently as possible. He stated that he wants
to save as many trees as possible and that the design of the homes will have
to accommodate these issues. He stated that he intends to design and build
the homes himself.
Mr. Johnson stated that the soil consists of sand and gravel. Commissioner
Tilsen inquired if soil borrings have been conducted. Mr. Johnson responded
no because he does not know the placement of the homes. He stated that
when he planted the pine trees years ago, the soil consisted of sand and
gravel.
Commissioner Tilsen inquired about erosion control. Mr. Johnson stated that
the City will engineer the cul-de-sac and that each site will be graded at the
time of home construction. He stated that he intends to use a silt fence.
Mr. Johnson stated that he wants to minimize the runoff. Commissioner
Tilsen stated that he believes a better job can be done to minimize the
runoff. Public Works Director explained that the proposal is a fairly minor
development and that the runoff was originally designed for when Alice Lane
was constructed. He stated that the City needs to be careful that the
backyards drain well and that the drainage does not harm adjoining homes.
Vice Chair Duggan inquired how the City monitors this situation. Danielson
responded that a final grading plan is submitted to the engineering
department before each house is constructed. He stated this is normally
done at the time the building permit is applied for.
Vice Chair Duggan commented that Lot 6 appears to have more than a 3 or
4 foot drop in grade. He stated that there is also quite a drop in grade on
Lots 1 and 2. He stated that Mr. Johnson needs to do a better job in
controlling runoff.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that the proposal is pushing the limit on front
yard. width requirements. He stated 100 feet of frontage is required and that
most of the homes in the area comply with this requirement. He pointed out
that there are four lots on Rogers Court and four lots on Swan Drive.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that the City should pursue this development
cautiously and that more information is needed to properly approve this
development. He stated that the City is concerned about lot size and that
more specific details are necessary to make a development appealing. Mr.
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Johnson stated that he is required to follow the constraints of the building
permit process and that he needs to adhere to the building code
requirements. Tilsen stated that a tree survey which identifies significant
trees 6" or greater is needed. He further stated that he would feel more
comfortable if there was one less lot.
Commissioner Betlej inquired if there is any fill on the property. Mr. Johnson
responded no. Betlej inquired about the grade of the street. It was noted
that Alice Lane has a 10 percent grade. Public Works Director Danielson
explained that a 6 to 8 percent grade is preferred but that sometimes the
topography of the land does not allow it. He stated that he does not see this
to be a problem.
Regarding the length of the cul-de-sac, Vice Chair Duggan asked that the Fire
Chief review the plan. Public Works Director stated that this is an infill
development and that the City was aware that Alice Lane would be extended
in the future. He stated with the extension of Alice Lane, the grade of the
street may be decreased. Mr. Johnson reminded the Commission that he is
trying to minimize tree loss and that if the road is moved further back, then
several trees will need to be removed. He stated that it would be like the
area has been clear cutted.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that a new concept can be demonstrated and
that trees can be saved. He stated that extending the road will gain linear
feet and may prove to benefit the front yard setbacks.
Commissioner Koll stated that she isconcerned that the developer is not
meeting the ordinance requirements. She stated that the design seems
smaller than the existing cul-de-sac developments in the area. She stated her
concerns with the steep street grade and the length of the cul-de-sac. Mr.
Johnson explained that the City's engineering staff will review the
topography of the land and will help to determine the best grade for the
street.
Vice Chair Duggan opened the meeting to the public.
Mr. Jack Hood, Alice Lane, noted his concern with the tightness of the
proposed plat. He stated that he is concerned with the proposed small lots
and small houses. He stated that he does not feel that the other cul-de-sacs
in the area look nice and that he really does not want to see a "sardine" look
in the City. He stated that he would like to see fewer lots.
Mr. Jeffrey Lori, 2218 Rogers Court, noted his concerns with the tightness
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of the proposed plat. He further stated that he is concerned with runoff. He
informed the Commission that there is a drainage problem between his lot
and the lot to the north of his property. He stated that soil samples have
been taken and those samples indicated there is an underground river in this
area. He stated that there may be more to the soil conditions than what Mr.
Johnson is aware of. He stated that his sump pump runs constantly and that
additional runoff from a new development is a major concern. Mr. Lori stated
that he would like to see larger homes within this development. He further
inquired about covenants and stated that within the Eide Addition, covenants
were not always adhered to.
Vice Chair Duggan noted that the Planner's Report states the zoning as R-1 A
and that the correct zoning classification is R-1. Duggan inquired if Mr.
Johnson would consider eliminating Lots 2 and 6, the smaller lots, and
develop the property as a four lot subdivision. Duggan stated that the
character of homes in the area are larger. He inquired if Mr. Johnson has
ever considered a smaller subdivision. Mr. Johnson stated that he is aware
of an underground river which runs from Rogers Lake to Wagon Wheel Trail.
He stated that there is a swamp area in this area and that at least one lot in
the Eide subdivision has not been built on because of the poor soil
conditions.
In response to a question from Mr. Lori, Public Works Director Danielson
stated that the City does not want to design a development that will harm
existing developments. He stated that the City engineering department will
research this proposal further. Danielson stated that it appears that if the
cul-de-sac were to be increased in length, then more frontage will be given to
the lots. Mr. Lori stated that he is concerned that the proposed Lot 2 will be
too close to his property.
Mr. Peter Egan, 2224 Alice Lane, stated that his house is south of proposed
Lot 6. He stated that he purchased the property five years ago with the
knowledge that Alice Lane will be extended to accommodate a new
subdivision. He stated that he would like to be a good neighbor. He stated
that he would encourage the City to follow its ordinances and make sure that
all ordinance requirements are met. He stated that if the cul-de-sac were
pushed farther back, then the five proposed new lots would be larger and the
homes would not require variances. He stated that he is at the end of Alice
Lane and that the steep grade is a real concern, particularly during the winter
time. He further stated that he would like to encourage the developer to
save as many trees as possible.
A resident, 2229 Alice Lane, stated that he is concerned with the tightness
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of the subdivision and the proposed front yard setbacks. He stated that
runoff is a concern. He stated that he felt that moving the cul-de-sac further
back, may not necessarily eliminate the tightness of the homes.
At the request of the Commission, Public Works Director Danielson briefly
reviewed a map which indicated a possible alternative in platting the parcel
of land that reduced the street slope, increased the front yard lot widths and
preserved the number of lots.
Mr. Lansbury, Alice Lane, stated that he would like to see one less lot. He
inquired about the width of the cul-de-sac. Public Works Director Danielson
stated that the new cul-de-sac will be larger and will have a required 60 foot
right-of-way. Vice Chair Duggan stated that the Fire Chief should review this
information.
Tim McQuillian, Wagon Wheel Trail, commented about the number of
driveways on the cul-de-sac and wondered if there is a concern for parking
on the street.
Commissioner Betlej moved to close the public hearing.
Vice Chair Duggan seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Tilsen moved to table action on the proposed subdivision until
August 25, 1998 at 7:30 p.m. and directed the applicant to submit the
following information:
1. Tree Survey locating significant trees 6" or greater and identifying
trees being saved or removed.
2. Soil Boring information.
3. Revised plan attempting to meet the 100 foot setback requirement. If
this is not able to be done then an explanation as to why it cannot be
done.
4. Erosion Control Plan.
5. Plans revising the grade of the cul-de-sac to 6 or 7 percent.
Vice Chair Duggan seconded the motion and offered a friendly amendment to
include review by the City's Fire Chief.
Commissioner Betlej stated that he is not opposed to the development and
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that the neighbors are aware that this area will be developed. He stated that
it is important to have more discussion regarding runoff concerns. He stated
that the revised plan should also address individual site development and
how it will affect the drainage in this area.
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AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
HEARING:
CASE NO. 98-23:
HORNER - CUP AND VARIANCE
Mr. Mark Horner, of 995 Delaware Avenue, was present to discuss his
request for a Conditional Use Permit and a setback Variance for a detached
22' x 30' garage.
Mr. Horner explained that the current 14' x 24' garage is not adequate. He
stated that his cars are usually parked outside of the garage because there is
no room. Mr. Horner informed that Commission that he has a new proposal
for the Commission to review besides the one currently before the
Commission.
Mr. Horner stated that he intends to replace the driveway and remove the
existing garage. He explained that the new garage location will be back
behind the overhead NSP wires.: He stated that this location will require the
removal of a pine tree and a crab tree.
In response to a question from Vice Chair Duggan, Mr. Horner stated that his
lot size is 50' x 240'.
Mr. Horner explained that most garages along his street are in the corner of
each lot with driveways approaching on the south side of each lot.
Mr. Horner explained that they intend to add shrubbery along the side of the
driveway to provide some screening between his property and the lot to the
south. He stated that they have no plans to change the grade of their
property. He stated that they do need to raise the new garage for positive
drainage.
Horner stated that the proposed 22' x 30' garage should adequately store
two vehicles plus miscellaneous equipment. He explained that the roof of
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the garage will be a 10/12 pitch with potential attic space.
Commissioner Betlej stated that he visited the site. He stated that
approximately 90 percent of the homes on the Horner's street do have
similar garage and driveway setbacks.
In response to a question from Commissioner Betlej regarding plantings on
the south side of the driveway, Mr. Horner stated that he intends to work
with his neighbor because his neighbor has recently added plantings. He
stated that he would like his plantings to compliment his neighbor's
plantings. He stated that he would like to purchase an affordable, fast
growing shrubbery. Commissioner Betlej stated that he would like to see
more vertical plantings, if possible.
Commissioner Betlej stated that this request represents how the City's
Zoning Ordinance does not take into account the older neighborhoods within
the City. He stated that these neighborhoods have fifty foot wide lots and
the current Zoning Ordinance is geared towards the newer neighborhoods
with 100 foot wide lots. He stated that he encourages reinvestment in
properties and that this is a request to do just that. He stated that the width
of the lot is the hardship.
Betlej stated that Mr. Horner has submitted a nice proposal which will
compliment his home and the neighborhood.
Commissioner Koll stated that she had visited the site. She stated that she
likes the proposal and inquired if the exterior material will be stucco. Mr.
Horner responded cost permitting, the sides of the garage will be stucco.
Mr. Horner explained that the existing driveway is seven feet wide and has
two strips of concrete with grass growing in the middle of it. He stated that
they would like to install a nine foot wide driveway with either asphalt or
concrete. He stated that the plans submitted indicate an eight foot wide
driveway. He stated that this is a typographical error and that it should be
nine feet wide.
Commissioner Koll inquired about the construction schedule. Mr. Horner
stated that he would like to have it constructed by winter of this year.
Commissioner Koll stated that some of the garages along Delaware gain
access off of Cherokee. Mr. Horner stated that he did consider this option
and felt that it was more of a disadvantage because the garage would be
placed in the middle of the property as well as creating a safety concern for
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his family.
In response to a question from the Commission regarding expiration of
Conditional Use Permits and Variances, Public Works Director Danielson
stated that if no work has been done, Conditional Use Permits expire in six
months and Variances in one year.
Vice Chair Duggan opened the meeting to the public.
Mr. Dave May, 987 Delaware Avenue, stated that he had intended to go
through this same process. He stated that he decided not to because it is
such an expensive process. He inquired as to why the process is so
expensive. Vice Chair Duggan responded the fee is established to help cover
advertisement costs as well as staff time. Duggan explained the process of
reviewing detached garages versus attached garages. Duggan explained that
an applicant may ask the City Council to waive the fees.
Mr. May stated that the City's ordinances do not reflect the realization of
what is really out there. Commissioners Betlej and Tilsen stated that
different rules apply for today's building standards.
A resident, 999 Delaware Avenue, stated that he supports Mr. Horner and
that he does not agree with the process. He stated that he is unhappy with
the amount of time the process takes.
Mr. Horner reviewed Plan B. He stated that the plan is similar to the
previous plan with the driveway. He stated that this proposal involves
constructing a smaller, 22' x 24' garage in the same location as the existing
garage. He stated that it does create a problem in accessing the garage from
the house and that no trees will be removed. He stated that they would add
only shrubs to one side of the garage. He stated that roof pitch would
change to 4:12, similar to a rambler style.
Horner stated that this proposal does not change the setback requests.
Mr. Horner asked that both plans be passed on to the Council. He. stated
that he needs to research the cost further and that he does not want to be
tied down to one particular plan. Planner McMonigal stated that the
requested variances are the same for either plan.
Commissioner Betlej moved to close the hearing.
Vice Chair Duggan seconded the motion.
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AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Koll inquired if NSP is concerned with the placement of the
proposed garage. Mr. Horner stated that he has spoken with NSP and that
they have indicated there should not be a problem with encroaching the
easement. He stated that they would not give him an approval in writing.
Regarding Plan B, Commissioner Betlej stated that he is concerned that this
garage will look like a prefabricated "Menard's style" garage. He suggested
that Mr. Horner consider maintaining a steeper pitch which would be in
keeping with the neighborhood. Mr. Horner stated that he would look into
different design styles. Commissioner Betlej stated that he would like to see
that the garage style match the style of the home.
Commissioner Betlej moved to recommend that the City Council approve a
Conditional Use Permit for a detached garage between 528 and 660 square
feet in size and between 85 and 140 feet from the east lot line, and a eight
foot side yard setback variance for the garage and the driveway to be two
feet from the side property line upon the following conditions:
1. That the pitch of the garage roof be 9:12.
2. That the materials for the garage complement the existing home.
Vice Chair Duggan seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
Vice Chair Duggan called a recess at 9:40 p.m.
Vice Chair Duggan reconvened the meeting at 9:45 p.m.
Ms. Susan Gagnier, of 1957 Walsh Lane, was present to discuss her request
for a three foot height variance for a six foot fence within a front yard
setback.
Ms. Gagnier explained that her lot became a through lot when Summit Lane
became a public right-of-way. She explained that the fence would extend
along the west property line and then down her property lines to the north
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and south which would then connect with the existing fence along the south
property line.
Ms. Gagnier stated that she has quite a cat problem. She stated that her
yard is littered with cat waste as well as dead animals.
Vice Chair Duggan preferred a shorter, four foot high fence and inquired as to
why Ms. Gagnier feels that an additional two feet to the fence would deter
cats from jumping into her backyard. Ms. Gagnier stated that it might not
but that she would like to try.
Vice Chair Duggan noted that the site plan is confusing. He noted that there
is a utility pole on the property and he inquired if it can be enclosed or even
built by the pole. Public Works Director Danielson stated that he would
inquire with NSP.
Ms. Gagnier explained that she would like to complete the fence next year
because it is an expensive process.
In response to a question from Commissioner Tilsen regarding matching the
existing fence material, Ms. Gagnier explained that each section of the fence
would need to be hand made because the manufacturer does not make three
foot sections. Commissioner Tilsen inquired if Ms. Gagnier will extend the
fence along the north property line to the front yard. Ms. Gagnier stated that
she will comply with the City's ordinance requirements if and when she
does. Tilsen stated that the only variance needed is in her rear yard.
Tilsen stated that a six foot fence is not aesthetically pleasing. He stated that
he would be more inclined to approve the variance if it were more
aesthetically pleasing.
Ms. Gagnier explained that the fence will also help windbreak her property.
She stated that she has been installing a lot of landscaping and that she does
not want to lose the investment. She stated that the wind comes over the
river valley and strikes her house and that a fence would help break the
wind.
Vice Chair Duggan inquired about the opacity of the fence along Summit
Lane. Commissioner Betlej read Section 4.8(1)d which states that all fences
located in front yards shall be constructed in such a manner that thirty
percent of the plane between the ground and the top of the fence is open.
Vice Chair Duggan inquired if neighbors on Summit Lane had been notified of
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the hearing. Staff responded yes. Commissioner Koll stated that she had
spoken with some of the Summit Lane residents and that they have
expressed their concern with the height and the massiveness of the fence.
She stated that they would like to see a fence varied in height which would
help make it look more aesthetically pleasing. Vice Chair Duggan inquired if
Ms. Gagnier has considered this option. Ms. Gagnier stated that she is not
asking for a variance other than along Summit Lane. She stated that that
portion of the fence will comply with the City's ordinance requirements.
Planner McMonigal stated that a fence in the front yard would have to be
36" maximum with a 30 percent opacity and setback 30 feet from the
property line.
Vice Chair Duggan stated that he would like to see a more accurate site plan.
Vice Chair Duggan opened the meeting to the public.
Ms. Lois Chambers, 999 Kay Avenue, stated that she is confused because
she does not know the placement of the proposed fence. She stated that
she has safety concerns and finds the existing 6' fence distracting. She
inquired about encroaching the utility easement. Ms. Chambers stated that
fences serve a purpose and that she is unclear as to what the purpose is of
the proposed fence. Ms. Gagnier pointed out that, upon another neighbor's
request, she removed every other slat on the existing fence. Ms. Chambers
stated that she is opposed to the request for a variance.
Vice Chair Duggan stated that he is trying to justify why a variance is
needed.
Commissioner Tilsen moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Koll suggested that Ms. Gagnier consider having less fencing
on the boundary lines and to consider planting shrubbery instead. She stated
that something needs to be done to make the area more eye appealing. Ms.
Gagnier stated that the City owns a ditch near her property which looks
terrible. She stated that she has asked that this property be landscaped and
that she would maintain it for the City.
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Commissioner Betlej asked for hardship clarification. Ms. Gagnier inquired if
a four foot fence would be more aesthetically pleasing. She stated that this
is a nice height and that maybe her neighbors would like it especially with
plantings. Gagnier stated that she would rather have a six foot fence to help
keep the cats out of her yard. She informed the Commission that the cats
are a real nuisance. Ms. Gagnier stated that she has received copies of
ordinances regarding nuisances and animal control. She informed the
Commission that Ordinance No. 1301 is suppose to regulate cats as well as
dogs. She stated that there is no mention of cat control within this
ordinance. She further noted that Ordinance 901 - Nuisances specifically
discusses carcasses of dead animals.
Vice Chair Duggan stated that the existing fence is partially open and that
this does not help keep cats out. Ms. Gagnier stated that she is planning for
her future. She stated that she may wish to build a garage in the future and
then connect the fence so that the entire front yard is enclosed. Vice Chair
Duggan stated that there is no justification of a hardship.
In response to a question from Commissioner Tilsen, Ms. Gagnier stated that
her house was constructed in 1953 and that she has been living in the home
for fifteen years. Tilsen stated that Ms. Gagnier may have a good hardship
in the sense that the street was platted after she occupied the home. He
stated that a double fronting lot is subject to specific rules. He noted his
concerns with aesthetics. He noted that some creativity could be used
similar to that done by Children's Country Day School. He stated that their
fencing has wire mesh placed behind their fences. He stated that while they
have opaqueness in the fence the mesh helpskeep stray animals out of the
yard.
Ms. Chambers stated that she believes the road has always been there.
Public Works Director Danielson stated that road was a private driveway
before the homes were platted.
Vice Chair Duggan moved to continue discussion of this application to the
August 25, 1998 meeting and requested that Ms. Gagnier return with more
detailed proposal, including fence material, height and plans for the future
garage and all fence additions.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
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Ms. Gagnier stated that the Commission is asking for too many things and
that she is not sure as to what she will build in the future. Vice Chair
Duggan stated that Ms. Gagnier has not provided the Commission with a
hardship.
VOTE ON MOTION:
AYES: 2
NAYS: 2, TILSEN, KOLL
MOTION FAILS
Commissioner Tilsen moved to recommend that the City Council grant a one
foot height variance for a four foot fence within the rear yard setback but
maintain the 30 percent opacity requirement. Tilsen stated that because the
lot became a through lot upon public acquisition of the road in the rear of the
property is a justifiable hardship.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
AYES: 2
NAYS: 2, DUGGAN, BETLEJ
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Vice Chair Duggan stated that the Commission is at an impasse and that Ms.
Gagnier should appear before the. City Council to discuss her request.
HEARING:
CASE NO. 98-26:
WOLLF - VARIANCE
Mr. Dan Wolff, of 600 Spring Street, was present to discuss his request for
an eight foot front yard setback variance for a covered stoop to be added to
the front of his home.
Mr. Wolff explained that his home is a two bedroom and that he has three
children. He stated that they intend to add a second story to their home
which will add three bedrooms and two bathrooms. He stated that his
builder suggested that they extend the entryway to give more room for the
new second story addition. He stated that most houses in their
neighborhood have covered stoops.
In response to a question from the Commissioner, Planner McMonigal
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explained that if the stoop did not have a roof, a variance would not be
necessary.
Mr. Wolff explained that the existing sidewalk and steps extend out seven
feet. He stated that the stoop will take a part of the sidewalk out.
In response to a question from Commissioner Tilsen, Planner McMonigal
stated that according to Section 4.6(4)b whenever buildings have been built
on one side of the street between two intersections, no building shall be
erected to extend so as to project beyond a line drawn between the forward
most portion of the nearest building on each side. Commissioner Tilsen
stated that one house on the corner of Spring Street and Chippewa Avenue
does already has the same setback as Mr. Wolff's request. He stated that a
precedence has been established.
Vice Chair Duggan opened the meeting to the public.
There was no one to discuss this request.
Vice Chair Duggan moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
Commisisoner Koll stated that this addition would be an asset to the
community. She stated that she has spoken with the Wolff's neighbors and
that no one expressed any concerns.
Commissioner Tilsen moved to recommend that the City Council approve the
eight foot front yard setback variance for the covered stoop based on the
following findings:
1. The applicant had demonstrated a practical difficulty.
2. The addition to the house would be an asset to the neighborhood.
3. That there was already one house on the corner of Spring Street and
Chippewa Avenue with the same setback.
4. That the variance for the covered stoop is diminimus.
Vice Chair Duggan seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
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VERBAL REVIEW
Public Works Director Danielson gave a brief review of Council action
regarding previous planning applications.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the Planning Commission moved to adjourn
its meeting at 11:08 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary
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