1997-09-23 Planning Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 23, 1997
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was held on
Tuesday, September 23, 1997, in the Council Chambers at City Hall, 1101 Victoria
Curve. The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. Th.e following Commission
members were present: Dwyer, Koll, Betlej and Tilsen. Commissioners Friel,
Lorberbaum and Duggan were excused. Also present were Public Works Director
Jim Danielson, Planner Meg McMonigal, Administrative Assistant Patrick Hollister
and Senior Secretary Kim Blaeser.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Tilsen moved approval of the August 26, 1997 minutes with
corrections.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
HEARING:
CASE NO. 97-33:
RYAN COMPANIES (LLOYD'S BBQ)
VARIANCE
Mr. Todd Schell, of Ryan Companies, was present to discuss their request
for a front yard setback variance which would allow a 40' by 82' expansion
of Lloyd's BBQ Company located at 1455 Mendota Heights Road.
Chair Dwyer stated that the applicant is proposing to build two additions on
the west side of the building adjacent to State Highway #13, with one of the
additions being 40' by 82'. Dwyer stated that the applicant has
demonstrated a hardship in that highway right-of-way is irregular and angled
in front of the building. He explained that the expansion will encroach into
the 40 foot right-of-way by 2.72 feet. He further stated that this expansion
does not impact adjacent property or traffic.
Commissioner Tilsen inquired about the existing parking lot and turnaround
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area. He stated that these appear to encroach the Highway 13 right-of-way.
Mr. Schell concurred and explained that this happened when MnDOT took 80
feet of Lloyd's property. Tilsen inquired if an easement had been
documented. Mr. Schell responded not that he is aware of.
Chair Dwyer opened the hearing to the audience.
There was no one present to discuss this request.
Chair Dwyer moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Koll moved to recommend that the City Council grant a 2.72
front yard setback variance.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
HEARING:
CASE NO. 97-34:
ETTINGER -
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
Mr. and Mrs. Ronald Ettinger, of Children's Country Day School, located at
1588 South Victoria Road, were present to discuss their request for a
Conditional Use Permit which would allow a 40' by 26' addition to an
existing storage building and to replace the existing chicken coop.
Chair Dwyer stated that the new addition will help create additional storage
on the property. Mr. Ettinger concurred and stated that the existing buildings
pre -date their ownership of the property which began in 1971.
Commissioner Koll asked for square footage clarification. Mr. Ettinger
informed the Commission that his letter of intent incorrectly stated the total
square footage. He explained that the size of the new addition will be 26' by
40' and that it will be added to an existing 22' by 24' building. Total square
feet will be 1,568.
Commissioner Koll inquired if the Ettinger's intend to place all of their
equipment into this building. Mr. Ettinger stated that they intend to
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consolidate their equipment from their St. Paul site as well as their Mendota
Heights site. He further explained that the easterly 15 feet of the building
will be used to house animals such as donkeys and llamas. The Commission
inquired if this was an allowable use. Planner McMongial responded that the
Zoning Ordinance allows this use because the property is over 4 acres in
size.
Mr. Ettinger stated that the new addition will give the property an
architectural enhancement and create 'a more "homey" atmosphere. He
stated that building will be used to obscure equipment stored to the north on
the property.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that he lives nearby the school and that he
believes the school is a real benefit to the community. He stated that the
Ettinger's have been very responsive to the neighborhood's concerns. Tilsen
stated that he is concerned with future changes of ownership. He stated
that he does not want to see these buildings used for something other than
what they were originally intended for. Chair Dwyer reminded the
Commission that the City's Zoning Ordinance dictates the use of a property.
He stated that if the future use is consistent with the City's Zoning
Ordinance, then there is no problem. But if the use is not consistent, the
City should be able to enforce its Zoning regulations. Dwyer stated that he
can appreciate Commissioner Tilsen's concern with a business getting larger
than what the Zoning Ordinance allows. Mr. Ettinger stated that he does not
foresee any changes occurring for at least 15 years.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
There was no one present to discuss this request.
Chair Dwyer moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Betlej moved to recommend that the City Council grant a
Conditional Use Permit which would allow the replacement of the chicken
coop and build a 26' by 40' addition to the existing storage building
according to the drawings and site plan submitted.
Commissioner Koll seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
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HEARING:
DRAFT CELLULAR/PCS ORDINANCE
Chair Dwyer explained that this public hearing had been scheduled to discuss
a Draft Cellular/PCS Ordinance and that this draft Ordinance is the result of
several viewings by the Planning Commission and the City Council, including
two joint workshops.
Administrative Assistant Hollister explained that the current moratorium on
placement of Cellular/PCS antennae within the City of Mendota Heights
expires on December 3, 1997. He explained that many opportunities have
been provided for industry input on the draft ordinance, and several local
Cellular/PCS service providers have responded with oral and written
comments on the draft ordinance. Hollister explained that where the
Commission and City Council have felt that proposed changes by the
industry were appropriate have been incorporated into the draft ordinance.
Industry Representatives present for the following discussion included Mr.
Peter Coyle, representing Aerial Communications; Ms. Julie Townsend,
representing US West Communications; and Ms. Marie Grimm, representing
AT&T Wireless.
Hollister reviewed the most common concerns expressed by the Cellular/PCS
industry regarding the draft ordinance and the City's response to those
concerns:
1 Height Limitations - The industry felt that the 75 foot height limit
originally contained in Section 21.6(4)d was too short. The industry
requested that the City raise the height limit to accommodate co -
location and reduce the number of towers needed in the City, and that
a 25 foot bonus be granted if the pole is designed to accommodate a
second user. The current draft includes a 25' "co -location bonus".
Mr. Coyle, representing Aerial Communications, stated that the industry
views the proposed height limitations as being too restrictive. He stated that
the industry would like to see a 75' height minimum as opposed to
maximum. He stated that even with the "co -location bonus" the ordinance
will be too prohibitive.
2. Setbacks. The industry felt that the requirement that antennas be 25'
plus the height of the tower from the nearest lot line originally
contained in 21.6(4)d was too strict. The Planning Commission and
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the Council have responded by removing the 25' component and
merely requiring the tower to be at least its own height from the
nearest setback line.
Mr. Coyle stated that the setback should be measured from specific
structures on the property and not from the property line. He stated that the
City ought to be protecting structures and that the proposed setback will
make it harder to sufficiently use the property. Ms. Grimm stated that the
stability of the towers have been proven to be safe.
3. Prohibition in Residential Zones. Section 21.6(4)a currently prohibits
free-standing antennae and antennae towers within R-1, R-1 A, or R-2
zones. The industry felt that this is too restrictive, particularly in light
of how much of the City falls within these zones (roughly 70 percent).
Both US West and AT&T Wireless requested that a minimum
institutional sites within these zones be granted an exception. After
much discussion, the Planning Commission and the Council have opted
to leave the prohibition as it is.
Commissioner Tilsen commented that this section is not as prohibitive as one
might think. He stated that there are provisions to waive these
requirements, specifically, within Section 21.6(8)k of the proposed
ordinance.
Mr. Coyle stated that the current technology allows for significant residential
use. He suggested that the City consider "institutional placement". He
stated that allowing institutional placement, will give the industry more land
to work with. Ms. Grimm stated that there is a cell site located at the
Midway Stadium where the St. Paul Saints play baseball. Commissioner
Tilsen stated that he believes the City is already allowing the opportunity.
He stated that the industry is being required to use its "imagination".
Commissioner Betlej stated that this gives plenty of opportunity for the
industry to co -locate.
4. Non-interference. Sprint PCS objected to the requirement that the
applicant submit a report from a qualified professional engineer
guaranteeing non-interference along with a copy of the FCC approval
of the antennae in regards to non-interference. The Planning
Commission and the Council have again opted to let this requirement
stand.
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Mr. Coyle stated that this requirement is an expensive proposition and that
the FCC assures non-interference. He stated that this is an extra and
expensive step that is already regulated by the FCC.
5. Abandonment Bond. Sprint PCS objected to the requirement for
submission of an "Abandonment Bond" to the City equal to 150
percent times the current cost of removal and disposal in Section
21.6(8)g. Sprint PCS claimed that this is a unique burden placed upon
antennae, and no other structures. The Planning Commission and the
Council have again opted to let this requirement stand.
Mr. Coyle stated that they routinely handle these type of circumstances. Ms.
Grimm noted Nuisance Legislation in effect which allows the City to assess
the property for abandoned antennae removal. She stated that other cities
are currently pursuing this type of abandonment clause.
6. Maps. The industry also objected to the requirement to submit maps
showing all existing and proposed antennae of both the applicant and
competitors within a five mile radius due to the proprietary nature and
competitive sensitivity of such information (Section 21.6(8)i). The
Planning Commission and the Council have reduced the radius to two
miles, and limited the information to merely the applicant's own
locations.
All industry representatives noted that changes occur rapidly within the
industry and that specifically pinpointing a location may change the next day.
7. Requiring a Conditional Use Permit for Building -Mounted Antennae.
AT&T Wireless objected to this requirement and said that building -
mounted antennae should be permitted use for up to 15' in height.
The Planning Commission and the Council have again opted to let this
requirement stand.
The Commission clarified that a side mounted antennae would be allowed
subject to approval of a Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Coyle urged the City to be more flexible. He noted his concern with
variables the industry is unable to control such as landlords.
Administrative Assistant Hollister clarified Council discussion of the draft
ordinance on August 19, 1997. He noted that the Council is of the opinion
that it has been the intent of all involved thus far that the calculation of the
height of free-standing antennae towers for height limitation purposes include
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the antennae itself. In other words, if the height limit is 75', this means that
the distance from the ground to the highest portion of the tower, antennae,
or any other attachment thereto be no more than 75. Hollister stated that
staff has revised the draft ordinance with more explicit language to avoid any
potential loopholes.
Hollister discussed Council's concern with tightening the height restrictions.
Hollister stated that the Mayor feels that the maximum height of any tower
should be 75', regardless of co -location. He stated that the Mayor feels that
reducing the height of towers is more important than reducing the number of
towers, especially since Mendota Heights is a small City and the Mayor does
not anticipate many towers in any event.
Commissioner Betlej stated that with the nature of our City (highways
bisecting the City) there will be more demand for cell towers. He stated that
he does not agree that shorter towers are more important than fewer towers.
The Commission acknowledged receipt of a letter submitted by Ms. Marie
Grimm, of AT&T Wireless Services. Regarding Section 21.6(8)g.
Abandonment Bond, Ms. Grimm reminded the Commission of the nuisance
legislation at the statewide level (Minnesota Statutes Chapter 429) which
has given additional strength for the cities and allows for special assessment
in these cases.
Ms. Grimm also noted AT&T's concerns for not allowing the use of mobile
Cell/OCS sites or COWs (Cell Sites on Wheels). She noted that they would
like to see the proposed ordinance allow for the "temporary" use of COWs.
She stated that this was discussed at the July 22, 1997 workshop. She
stated that AT&T's system must be operational to serve public safety needs
for police and fire. She stated that they need the ability to obtain City
approval for use of a COW, for a limited period of time and according to
conditions. She informed the Commission that she has provided them with a
draft ordinance from the City of Lino Lakes, which states terms and
conditions for the use of Temporary Mobile Towers.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
There was no one present to discuss this case.
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Chair Dwyer moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Betlej moved to recommend that the City Council amend the
City's Zoning Ordinance by adding the Wireless Telecommunications
Antennae, Free -Standing Antennae Towers and Accessory Structures
Ordinance.
Commissioner Tilsen seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
HEARING:
CASE NO. 97-35:
JOHNSON -
VARIANCE
Mr. Thomas Johnson, of 739 Pontiac Place, was present to discuss his
request for a variance which would allow the construction of a three season
porch.
Chair Dwyer briefly reviewed Mr. Johnson's request and noted that Mr.
Johnson has demonstrated a hardship due to the unusual lot configuration.
He stated that the neighbors concur with the proposal. Dwyer inquired about
Mr. Johnson's westerly neighbors. Mr. Johnson stated that they were
concerned if the new addition would restrict the flow of the wind to their
yard.
Regarding the exterior materials, Mr. Johnson stated that they intend to re-
side the entire home next summer.
The Commission discussed how the proposed addition will be an
improvement to the property. It was noted how the City has been
supportive in allowing residents within this neighborhood to reinvest in their
homes.
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Commissioner Koll moved to recommend that the City Council grant a 2.5
foot side yard variance which would allow the construction of a three season
porch at 739 Pontiac Place conditioned upon the exterior building materials
matching by October 7, 1998.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
HEARING:
CASE NO. 97-36:
BOARMAN KROOS PFISTER VOGEL -
(DAKOTA BANK) - VARIANCES
Mr. John Seidel, of Dakota Bank and Ms. Leah Kangas and Kim Simpson,
Architects representing Boarman Kroos Pfister Vogel, were present to
discuss variance requests which would allow the construction of a
monument sign, and five directional signs.
Mr. Seidel stated that he is a little confused as to why the location of the
monument sign is being reviewed by the Commission. He stated that the
City Council had approved this sign in February of 1997. Chair Dwyer asked
for clarification. Administrative Assistant Hollister explained that Mr. Seidel
had represented that the monument sign would conform to all required
setbacks, as indicated on the original sign plans. He stated that the
confusion focuses on the fact that the retaining walls extend into the
setback. Chair Dwyer inquired if the retaining walls include lettering. Ms.
Kangas explained that the sign and retaining wall conform with setback
requirements but that the two concrete wings extend into the setback. Chair
Dwyer stated that the sign is in compliance with City setback requirements
and that the two concrete wing structures serve as a supporting structure.
Commissioner Tilsen inquired about lighting and the placement of the
lettering on the sign. Mr. Seidel responded that they did represent this
information to the City Council in February.
The Commission discussed the placement of the directional signs. It was
noted that if the signs were placed according to the required setback, the
results would hinder traffic and create a safety issue.
Regarding the realignment of the frontage road and right-of-way ownership,
Mr. Seidel stated that it is the intent of Dakota Bank to maintain that
property. He stated that the City Council is aware of this issue.
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Commissioner Tilsen noted his concerns for placing a traffic sign on City
property that does not conform to MnDOT sign safety standards. Tilsen
stated that there may be a higher speed potential in this area and that the
City should enforce strict conformance to MnDOT standards. Mr. Seidel
stated that this could become a condition should the City turnover right-of-
way ownership to Dakota Bank.
The applicants discussed the necessity of having a large ATM lobby/drive
through sign. It was noted that SuperAmerica offers a service similar to the
bank's and that it is a competitive force to Dakota Bank's customers. Chair
Dwyer stated that if the sign were to be in compliance with the City's
ordinance, it would be difficult to read.
The Commission inquired about the amount of "allowed" sign square
footage. Planner McMonigal explained that the ordinance makes a distinct
comparison between signs on buildings and free standings signs. She stated
that in this particular zoning district, quite a bit of sign square footage is
allowed and that Dakota Bank is in compliance.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
There was no one present to discuss this request.
Chair Dwyer moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Tilsen seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Betlej moved to recommend that the City Council approve the
following sign variances for Dakota Bank making the directional signs exempt
from permits:
Sian
Ordinance Section
Two Stop Signs Section 21.5(a)b
ATM Lobby Section 21.5(a)b
Variance
2 s.f. size variance
4 s.f. size variance
Drive-through
Entrance One Way Section 21.5(a)b 0.6 s.f. size variance
Chair Dwyer seconded the motion.
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AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
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The Commission acknowledged receipt of a memo from Administrative
Assistant Hollister regarding Council's invitation to the Planning Commission
to attend an October 14, 1997 workshop to discuss the Comprehensive Plan
revision process. Chair Dwyer informed staff that he would not be able to
attend the workshop.
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There being no further business, the Planning Commission moved to adjourn
its meeting at 9:26 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary
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