1996-03-26 Planning Comm MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
.OLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MARCH 26, 1996
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Planning Commission was held on
Tuesday, March 26, 1996, in the City Hall Council Chambers, 1101 Victoria
Curve. The meeting was called to order at 7:30 o'clock P.M. The following
members were present: Dwyer, Betlej, Lorberbaum, Duggan and Tilsen.
Commissioners Koll and Friel were excused. Also present were Public Works
Director Jim Danielson, Planning Consultant Lynne Rabuse, Senior Secretary Kim
Blaeser and Administrative Intern Patrick Hollister.
Commissioner Duggan moved approval of the February 27, 1996 minutes
with corrections.
Commissioner Betlej seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
• HEARINGS:
CASE
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CITY
• ,,•, HEIGHTS -
• •-r AMENDMENT -
• HOUSING
Chair Dwyer explained that at their February meeting, the Planning
Commission conducted the public hearing to consider the senior housing
Zoning Ordinance amendment. He explained that the Commission
expressed a concern that the proposed amendment was for public
subsidized housing and should not be allowed for private, market rate
development. Dwyer explained that the Commission tabled consideration of
the amendment until the March meeting to allow time for legal review.
Chair Dwyer stated that Commissioner Friel had reviewed the amendment
and submitted his comments in writing directly to all Commission members.
He stated that the Mayor has also reviewed Commissioner Friel's comments
and proposed amendments. Dwyer stated that the Mayor concurs with
Commissioner Friel's comments if an exception would be allowed for
governmentally owned housing, and then only if the Council makes the
legislative decision to do so.
Chair Dwyer stated that Mayor Mertensotto has indicated that he would like
the Planning Commission to make a recommendation on the HRA Senior
Housing project tonight. Dwyer stated that the role of the Commission is to
elicit opinions from the public and try to narrow the issues. He stated that
he believes that this has been completed and that he believes the
Commission should now make a recommendation to City Council.
Commissioner Duggan stated that he would like to continue discussions on
an Ordinance amendment even if it means that variances will be needed for
the HRA project to proceed on to Council review.
In response to a question regarding minimum square footage for one and
two bedroom units, Mr. Jay Nelson, of BRW Architects, stated that single
bedroom units will be between 650 and 665 square feet and two bedroom
units will be between 900 and 920 square feet. Commissioner Duggan
stated he would like to see the two bedroom units be a minimum of 920
square feet.
Commissioner Betlej stated that the plan should be accepted subject to the
listing of specific variances as it relates to the existing zoning ordinance. He
stated that the proposed zoning ordinance amendment could be discussed
at a later time. Chair Dwyer concurred and stated that it is unfair to
entangle the HRA proposal with the City's good faith efforts in creating an
ordinance amendment.
Commissioner Duggan suggested that a representative from the HRA be
included during the process of drafting a senior housing ordinance. He
inquired if the City is even able to process this application under the existing
guidelines of the Comprehensive Plan and Zoning Ordinance. He wondered
if the City is leaving itself open for legal problems.
Commissioner Duggan moved to table discussion on the senior housing
ordinance amendment.
A discussion ensued regarding the process of conducting a public hearing
on zoning ordinance amendments.
Commissioner Duggan withdrew his motion.
Chair Dwyer moved to withdraw the senior housing zoning ordinance
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amendment and to discuss a revised amendment at a later date.
Commissioner Lorberbaum seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
CONTINUED HEARING:
DAKOTA COUNTY HRA -
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT,
REZONING, SUBDIVISION, CUP FOR MINING
AND STRUCTURE GREAT THAN 25 UNITS ANX
WETLANDS PERMIT
Commissioner Duggan referred to a letter submitted by Commissioner Friel
to the Planning Commission regarding the senior housing project. He noted
Commissioner Friel's interest in seeing to it that such housing provides
adequate living space, adequate community space, adequate parking on an
adequate parcel of land in a way that does not significantly and adversely
affect adjacent properties and is consistent with -the public health, safety
and welfare. Duggan noted Commissioner Friel's concern over the amount
and type of community spaces proposed for the new facility. Commissioner
Duggan stated that an exercise facility should be included as community
space rather than entry halls, lavatories, coatrooms, mailrooms, laundry and
stairways.
Ms. Kari Gill, Dakota County HRA, stated that the HRA does not provide an
exercise room in their facilities but that some of the game rooms at the
other senior housing projects in the County have added exercise equipment.
Commissioner Duggan stated that the calculations for community space
include a large front porch, large front entryway and a large reception area.
He stated that these spaces could be reduced to allow for additional room
for an exercise area and larger units. He stated that these areas are not
really considered community areas. Mr. Nelson responded that these
common areas are considered a community areas. He stated that this
senior housing proposal is different than a typical commercial proposal in
that seniors like and want to promote community togetherness. He stated
that the social organization and interaction of the residents in senior housing
is important. Mr. Nelson stated that the proposed building will be larger
than the existing HRA senior housing buildings.
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Commissioner Duggan stated that he would like to see the HRA "give a
little" since the City is "giving a little". Ms. Gill stated that she will see if
there is an opportunity to create additional space for the exercise room.
Commissioner Duggan moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Lorberbaum seconded the motion.
Commissioner Betlej moved to recommend that the City Council approve the
senior housing proposal subject to the following: preliminary plat approval;
the facility remain as senior housing in perpetuity; the facility remain as
governmentally owned housing; that a minimum of 40 of the 65 units be
available to low/moderate income and that the facility be operated for
people 55 years of age and older and their spouses; that a comprehensive
plan amendment be granted; that the zoning be amended to an R-3
designation; that variances be granted to allow for the following:
1. Lot area: To provide 65 units on 4.41 acres of land.
2. Parking: To provide 55 internal parking spaces, 27 external
parking spaces and 9 proof -of -parking.
3. Unit Size: To provide a minimum of 650 square feet for one
bedroom units and a minimum of 900 square feet
for two bedroom units. Three bedroom units are
not allowed.
4. Storage: 50 percent of the requirement in Section 12.7(7).
To grant Conditional Use Permits as required for unit structure larger than
25 and for Mining which would allow for the removal of the fill from the site
all as presented to the Planning Commission by the Dakota County HRA in
their application material titled City Case No. 96-04.
Chair Dwyer seconded the motion.
Commissioner Duggan inquired about storage space and whether there will
be adequate space under the R-3 Zoning designation.
Commissioner Duggan offered a friendly amendment by adding that a
minimum of 1000 square feet be provided for an exercise room.
Dr. Gregory Lee, of the Dodge Nature Center, inquired about the variance
process. He inquired about hardship and uniqueness. Chair Dwyer stated
that there is a practical difficulty in that shape of the land available impedes
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the use of the property. Lee stated that he believes the HRA is asking for
variances on a piece of property that they do not even own. Chair Dwyer
responded that the Planning Commission is recommending that the Council
approve this request because the proposed senior housing project is a
proper use for this property. He stated that while there are inconsistencies
with the City's ordinance, the proposed use is a benefit to the City.
Ms. Yvette Mullen, 1664 Celia Road, stated that she is in favor of the
request moving forward and that these developments are aesthetically
pleasing. She further stated that these developments offer spacious homes
and helps the low/moderate income seniors.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
CASE NO. 96-04:
DUGGAN-
WETLANDS PERMIT—
Mr. Ultan Duggan, of 2331 Copperfield Drive, was present to discuss his
request for a Wetlands Permit which would allow the installation of sub-
surface drain tile system to alleviate his basement water problem.
Mr. Duggan explained that the majority of the project is outside of the 100
foot wetlands boundary but the outlet is constructed within 50 feet of the
wetlands. Duggan stated that poor drainage affects not only the pool area
but the basement of the residence as well.
Duggan explained that the underground drainage system is designed to
capture underground water and move it away from the home and the
swimming pool patio area and discharge twenty feet away from the pond.
He stated that this is all taking place in a landscaped yard and will not have
any affect on the naturalize vegetation or change the contour of the land
except adjacent to the home which is beyond the 100 foot setback.
Duggan stated that soil erosion protection will be used and that this project
will take approximately 4-6 weeks.
Chair Dwyer stated that all signatures of consent have been received.
Commissioner Lorberbaum moved to waive the public hearing.
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Commissioner Tilsen seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
ABSTAIN: 1,DUGGAN
Chair Dwyer moved to recommend that the City Council approve the
request for a Wetlands Permit.
Commissioner Lorberbaum seconded the motion.
AYES: 4
NAYS: 0
ABSTAIN: 1
HEARING:
CASE NO. 96-07 -
Dr -• HOMES -
SUBDIVISION/PRELIMINARY PLAT,
FRONT YARD SETBACK AND LOT WIDTH VARIANCE
Mr. John Mathern, of Mendota Homes, was present to discuss his request
for subdivision/preliminary plat approval and variance for street width, front
yard setback and lot width which would create an eight lot subdivision on
Lots 1, 2, 3 and 4, Tuminelly's Court.
Chair Dwyer explained that Carmen Tuminelly had platted previously four
lots off of a cul-de-sac called Carmen Lane. He explained that that plat
accommodated the present home on the site and required minimal public
improvements. Dwyer explained that previously Mr. Tuminelly with
Mendota Homes had submitted a pre -application to the City to place a
townhome development on the property. Dwyer stated that pre -application
was not approved.
Mr. Mathern explained that the parcel of land consists of 3.49 acres with
proposed lots containing 15,000 square feet or more. The eight lots are
configured around a cul-de-sac which extends off of the Highway 110
frontage road. Mathern stated that two lots on the cul-de-sac invade on the
front yard setback (Lots 2 and 3). He explained that these lots wrap around
the end of the cul-de-sac reducing the available building area. Mathern
explained that proposed housing pads have been provided as an example of
building size. He explained that Lot 6 is a flag lot similar to the lots
previously approved with a 100 -foot lot dimension about 60 -feet back from
the proposed street.
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Mathern explained that he is asking for a variance for width of the road
right-of-way from the required 60 feet to a 55 foot width. Mathern
explained that this has been granted in other subdivisions in the City. He
explained that the normal street section is proposed to be placed within the
55 foot right-of-way.
Chair Dwyer inquired if Mr. Mathern has met with the Crown Point
neighborhood residents. Mr. Mathern responded no.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Mr. Mathern stated that the
price range for these homes will be from $250,000 and up. He stated this
price includes the lot. He stated that are a lot of improvements with the
construction of the cul-de-sac.
Mr. Mathern explained that the existing brick house will be moved to Lot 8
and that the garage will be reduced from a four car garage to a 2 car
garage. He stated that the large brick house currently overwhelms the
property and that by moving the house, it will open the development. He
stated that the brick will .be painted to help. tone down the house and be
more in keeping with the proposed neighborhood. Mathern stated the
existing basement will be filled in.
Mathern explained that there will be a mix of one and two story homes with
the homes on Lots 2, 3 and 4 having the ability of creating walkouts.
In response to a question from Chair Dwyer, Planner Rabuse stated that the
maximum length of a cul-de-sac, in Mendota Heights, is 500 feet. She
explained that the proposed cul-de-sac will be 400 feet and located at the
end of an existing cul-de-sac.
Mathern stated that in order to meet the 15,000 square foot lot minimum,
Lot 5 has a tail extending adjacent to Lot 6 that is not usable but platted to
obtain 15,000 square feet. He further stated that he would be willing to
work within the parameters of the zoning ordinance regarding lot setbacks
and lot width.
Commissioner Tilsen stated that this proposal is too crowded. He stated
there are too many variances and that the house pads shown are generous.
He further stated that the developer is creating a longer cul-de-sac to satisfy
his development. He stated that he believes the market to be much worse
in selling $250,000 homes in this area.
Chair Dwyer inquired if variances are necessary. Mr. Mathern stated that
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Lots 2 and 3 are not an issue and that he would consider redesigning these
lots. He stated that the right-of-way variance is necessary and that it has
been done in the past. He stated that a full width street is being installed.
Mathern stated he did not design the access of the property.
Chair Dwyer suggested that the plat be reduced to 7 lots which would make
the lots larger and reduce the number of variances. Mathern stated he was
not sure this will work and that he does not understand the Commission's
concern regarding the right-of-way variance because a full width street will
be installed. Tilsen stated that the right-of-way variance pushes the houses
closer to the street. Tilsen stated that shape of the lots create a crowed
atmosphere.
Commissioner Duggan stated that the original plat was approved as a four
lot subdivision and that he does not want to change the plat. He noted his
concern for the lack of sales with a 4 lot subdivision. Duggan stated that
he would consider a 6 or 7 lot division without variances. Duggan inquired
if any other designs had been considered. Mr. Mathern stated that they had
reviewed other ideas which included a hammerhead cul-de-sac. Duggan
inquired about the curve in the street. Public Works Director Danielson
stated that it is not unusual to have a street extension off of an existing cul-
de-sac. He stated traffic moves slowly and with a full size street, parking
will be allowed on both sides of the street.
Commissioner Tilsen inquired if the frontage road should be widened. Public
Works Director stated that if the road were to be widened, the existing
evergreen trees would have to be removed. He confirmed that the road
width is substandard. Mr. Mathern stated that with the widening of the
frontage road, the street would not only impact the evergreen trees but also
encroach on the existing parcels of land. Additional right-of-way was
discussed. Commissioner Betlej stated that two cars cannot pass on the
road as it exists today.
Commissioner Lorberbaum stated that Mr. Mathern had originally indicated,
in a previous proposal for townhomes, that this site is not suitable for single
family homes. Mr. Mathern stated that he does not believe the buyers have
changed. He stated that he his trying to work within the City's parameters.
Commissioner Lorberbaum inquired if there will be covenants enforced. Mr.
Mathern stated that most developments enact covenants.
Commissioner Lorberbaum stated that the price of the existing four single
family lots might have been an issue in why they did not sell to begin with.
Mr. Mathern stated that the proposed price of the new lots will be between
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$70,000 and $100,000.
Commissioner Lorberbaurn stated her concern for the length of the cul-de-
sac and public safety issues. She further stated that she would rather see
Lot 5 made a smaller lot rather than make it an irregular shape lot.
In response to a question from the Commission, Mr. Mathern stated a silt
fence will be in place to help control erosion.
Commissioner Betlej inquired about the highway location and how it may
impact the sale of property both in the past development and the proposed
development. Mr. Mathern explained that the past development was
designed in a pie shape. He stated that the highway impacted Lots 1, 2 and
3. He stated that with the proposed development, the front yards will be
staggered and that the highway will not directly impact the front yards. He
stated that additional plantings will also help. He stated that there was a
poor design the first time through. He informed the Commission that he has
people interested in Lot 2.
A discussion ensued regarding additional landscaping for Lots 2 and 3 and
the irregular shape of Lot 5. The Commission also discussed shortening the
cul-de-sac and how that might impact the size of Lot 4 and the possible
need for a setback variance should the cul-de-sac be reduced in length.
Chair Dwyer opened the meeting to the public.
A resident from 879 Crown Circle, inquired about the cul-de-sac and length
restriction. Public Works Director stated that the frontage road will need to
be widened. The resident also inquired about the park trail and who would
pay for the any improvements. He stated that the existing homeowners
should not have to bear the burden of expenses. He also stated that
$70,000 to $90,000 lot prices are excessive for this area. He also informed
the Commission that a right turn lane needs to be address for traffic heading
west bound on Highway 110 into the Crown Point neighborhood.
A resident from 1981 Crown Point Drive, informed the Commission that he
is also very concerned for safety and how the proposed development will
increase the traffic. He further stated that he would like to see the
proposed homes keep in character with the Crown Point neighborhood.
Mr. Leitner, 897 Highway 110, stated that the frontage road is a real
problem and that the City should address the safety concerns. He noted his
concern for soil erosion and how the proposed development would affect
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his garden. He stated he would like a berm constructed to block the runoff
to his property. He noted his dissatisfaction with moving the existing brick
house right next to his house.
A resident from 1977 Crown Point noted his concern for the number of
families that will move into the area and how it will create additional traffic
hazards.
Mr. O'Gara, Crown Point resident, stated that he was under the impression
that the original four lot development would not be changed. He stated that
the prices of the lots have been too excessive. He stated that he believes it
would be a mistake to approve an eight lot development and the City should
keep the development as a four lot plat.
Chair Dwyer moved to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Lorberbaum seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
Commissioner Duggan suggested that the Commission table Mr. Mathern's
request until City staff is able to determine if the frontage road could be
widened without impacting the existing property owners.
Commissioner Lorberbaum moved to recommend that the City Council deny
the requested subdivision/preliminary plat and front yard setback and lot
width variances.
Commissioner Duggan seconded the motion.
The Commission found that the City had approved this property as a four lot
subdivision and that this is still an appropriate development size.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
VERBAL REVIEW
Public Works Director Danielson briefed the Planning Commission on recent
City Council actions regarding recent planning cases.
There being no further business, the Planning Commission moved to adjourn
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its meeting at 9:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary