04-08-1998 ARC MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
AIRPORT RELATIONS COMMISSION
APRIL 8, 1998 - MINUTES
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Airport Relations Commission was held
on Wednesday, April 8, 1998 in the City Hall Large Conference Room, 1101
Victoria Curve. The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. The following
members were present: Beaty, Fitzer, Roszak, Leuman, Des Roches.
Commissioners Stein and May arrived late. Also present were City Administrator
Kevin Batchelder and Senior Secretary Kim Blaeser. Mr. Darwin Pruitt resident of
Mendota Heights (Swan Lane) was also present.
Chair Beaty noted that Mr. Pruitt has made several inquiries as to how the
MSP operations are conducted and why Mendota Heights seems to be
bombarded with aircraft noise.
APPROVAL OF -MINUTES
Commissioner Des Roches moved approval of the March 11, 1998 minutes.
Commissioner Roszak seconded the motion.
AYES: 5
NAYS: 0
DISCUSSION OF MASAC
ASSESSMENT
Commissioner May arrived at 7:06 p.m.
Administrator Batchelder informed the Commission that the City Council
concurs with the Commission's opinion that the MASAC needs to generate
specific ideas on how the MASAC can become more effective in its purpose,
communication and motives.
Batchelder stated that the Council agrees that the MASAC should pursue the
following concepts to help make the organization a more effective
organization:
1. Develop a handbook which includes a statement of purpose.
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2. Developed an organizational chart.
3. Prepare a monthly communication package which should also include
MAC meeting information.
4. Encourage MASAC membership to develop reports and have each
member keep in touch with their City Officials as well as community
residents.
5. Develop a quarterly newsletter - Maybe consider televising MASAC
meetings on local government channels.
6. Maintain a higher profile.
7. Conduct new membership orientation meetings.
Batchelder stated that the assessment results will be forward to the MASAC
P&E Commission and that the MASAC will have results and begin its formal
discussions in April.
Batchelder informed the Commission that he is a new member of the
MASAC and that he will provide the Commission with copies of orientation
information as soon as they are available.
As part of the "keeping everyone in touch" process, the MASAC has
scheduled two informational meetings to discuss Noise Contour Modeling
and FAA Airspace Usage and Control. He reminded the Commission of the
April 28, 1998 and May 26, 1998 meetings. Batchelder suggested that Mr.
Pruitt, resident in attendance, attend these meetings as well. He stated that
these meetings should help provide information as to how the MSP
operations are conducted.
Commissioner Stein arrived at 7:15 p.m.
In response to a question from Commissioner Roszak, Commissioner Fitzer
explained that aircraft are assigned a specific heading but that it does not
mean it is a ground tracking reading. He stated that this all depends upon
winds, lift off capability and when the planes are able to turn. Batchelder
briefly reviewed an aerial map which depicts runway location as well cities
which surround the airport. Chair Beaty stated that this type of information
is available on the Internet. He informed the Commission that maps can be
order through the US Geological web site and that maps are available for
$75.
DISCIISSION OF PROPOSAL ON
PARALLEL RUNWAY •
REQUIREMENTS
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Administrator Batchelder explained that an initiative had been presented to
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the yJOCARC6«the City ofInver Grove Heights torequest aVariance from
F/\/l procedures for the 15 degree parallel runway separation requirement.
He explained that the FAA requires 4,30() feet of separation for parallel
runways to operate independently. Batchelder reviewed a map, submitted by
the City Of Inver G[OV8 Heights, which depicts the specific location in which
aircraft could turn. Batchelder reviewed the map and informed the
Commission that Inver Grove Heights' request would require a Standard
Instrument Departure. Commissioner RoSzak inquired if the process would
nullify the 1972 tower order. Batchelder explained that in 1990, the City
requested that the southern boundary boeliminated and that the City of
Eagan opposed this request. The Con)rnioSioO discussed how the aircraft
operations have changed over the years and that operations exceed the air
traffic from the 197{}'s' Commissioner May suggested that the City consider
petitioning the FAA and request a formal hearing to discuss the equity
ethicity of the 1972tower order.
Administrator Batchelder stated that the &4ASAC has established the
Eagan/Mendota Heights Corridor issue as 1998 priority. H8stated that itis
an appropriate time to begin gtraLegizing especially with the construction of
the north/south runway and that a new runway use system will need to be
discussed.
Chair Beaty stated that the City should move in the direction of abolishing
the preferential runway use system. Hestated that head'to-haad operations
create on inequitable air noise distribution, especially at nighttime.
Administrator Batchelder stated that this is why it is so important to get the
MAS/\C to monitor the non -simultaneous departures. Batchelder stated that
one of MASAC 1998 goals is to review the corridor issue.
Chair Beaty stated that Inver Grove Heights' variance proposal will benefit
Mendota Heights. Batchelder reminded the Commission that K]DCAFlC had
diGoUoaad the variance proposal and that the Ai[ Commission recommended
support Vfthe concept. Heexplained that the City Council did not support
the recommendation because the request was too conceptual and that the
City needs to be careful when making 8 request to the MAC because the
Council does not want tojeopardize Mendota Heights good standing with the
MAC.
The CODlrDiSSiOO diSCUSS8d how this concept needs refining and that 8 SI[]
vVoU!d be needed. Administrator Batchelder stated that the NDC/\AC is
trying to fO[Dl a united front F8g8njiOg this iSSU8. He stated that the City Of
Eagan is willing to COOp8[8t8 because this CODCeDt can ShOVV the COOlpliaDC8
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of the southern boundary.
The Commission was of the consensus that the proposed Variance concept
should be researched further to determine benefits as well as negative
impacts on Mendota Heights. They further felt that all of the NDCARC cities
need to agree on this issue before it is considered by the FAA.
Commissioner Des Roches suggested that the Commission discuss the 1972
tower order at their May meeting. Administrator Batchelder stated that the
Commission should consider updating its Action Plan as well.
The Commission was of the consensus to tour the new FAA tower on
Wednesday, April 22 beginning at 4:30 p.m. It was noted that those
interested would meet directly at the tower. Administrator Batchelder stated
that he would be in attendance.
Administrator Batchelder stated that the Commission had requested that St.
Thomas Academy test Roger's Lake for possible airplane emissions (benzene
and formaldehyde). He informed the Commission that the St. Thomas
students can test the lake for formaldehyde only. He stated that benzene is
an air pollutant and that it would be very expensive as well as difficult to test
for this toxin in the water. Batchelder stated that St. Thomas had indicated
that they will have information available in time for the City Council's May
21, 1998 regular meeting.
DISCUSSION OF DRAFT NDCARC
COLLABORATIVE ISSUES
Administrator Batchelder informed the Commission that the NDCARC
adopted the List of Collaborative Issues at their March 19, 1998 meeting.
He informed the Commission that none of the issues were unanimous and
that each City had a list of their top priority topics to discuss. Batchelder
stated that this document will be considered a working document with the
NDCARC and that he would inform the Council of the Committee's issues.
Commissioner May moved to recommend that the City Council adopt the
suggest list of NDCARC Collaborative Issues.
Commissioner Leuman seconded the motion.
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AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
Mr. Pruitt, Mendota Heights resident, left at 8:10 p.m.
UPDATES:
LETTER TO MASAC ON MONITORING
NON -SIMULTANEOUS DEPARTURES
Administrator Batchelder informed the Commission that the MASAC
Operations Committee would be discussing this issue at their April 17, 1998
meeting. He stated that he is unclear as to how the non -simultaneous
departures will be monitored since the operations are in this mode at
different times on a daily basis. He stated that it would be interesting to find
out how they classify head-to-head operations. Commissioner Leuman noted
that on Saturday, during the day, head-to-head operations were being flown.
He stated that this is not a very busy time and that these sort of operations
should not be occurring. Chair Beaty stated that he really notices the 5:00
a.m. departures.
NOTICE OF CORRECTIONS - AVIATION
GUIDE PLAN
Administrator Batchelder informed the Commission that the Mayor,
Councilmember Krebsbach and himself along with other City staff members
met with Met Council representatives regarding the Met Council's Aviation
Guide Plan. He informed the Commission that he believes the City did an
excellent job in communicating to the Met Council representatives the City's
displeasure with the change in the guide plan. He noted that they discussed,
at length, the inequitable distribution of air noise and how Mendota Heights
is severely impacted by the air noise. He informed the Commission that they
also discussed how they feel the City of Eagan should not be allowed to
interfere with Mendota Heights' concerns with its comprehensive plan
amendment process.
Batchelder stated that as a result of their meeting, Mr. Chauncey Case, Met
Council Transportation Planner, sent a letter informing the City of a
correction to the Aviation Development Guide. Batchelder noted that the
changes involve the two land use categories: Multiplex/Apartment with
Shared Entrance and Cultural, Entertainment, Recreational (Indoor).
Batchelder stated that while this change clarifies the City's concerns, it does
not help the Hoffmann Homes request.
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Batchelder stated that he believes the meeting was an eye opening
experience for the Met Council and that the City is waiting for a formal
response from the Met Council.
FAA - FINAL POLICY
ON PART 150 LAND USE
COMPATIBILITY
The Commission acknowledged receipt of information from the FAA
regarding its Final Policy on Part 150 Approval of Noise Mitigation Measures:
Effect on the Use of Federal Grants for Noise Mitigation Projects. The
Commission noted that as of October 1, 1998, the FAA will not approve
remedial noise mitigation measures for new non -compatible development that
occurs in the vicinity of airports after the effective date of the final policy.
ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF
VARIOUS REPORTS/CORRESPONDENCE
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the Airport Noise Reports for
February 27, 1998 and March 13, 1998.
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the MASAC Agenda for March 31,
1998 and March 2, 1998 Minutes. The Commission noted that the City of
Eagan has sent a letter to Representative Oberstar requesting him to lean on
the FAA, (Washington), to sign the memorandum of Agreement that would
allow the local FAA tower and the MAC systems to be compatible.
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the MASAC Abbreviated Technical
Advisor's Report for February, 1998. Batchelder informed the Commission
that it has been requested that Mr. Fuhrman generate an activity log which
would allow everyone to be made aware of specific requests made by other
cities.
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the NDCARC Agenda for March
19, 1998.
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the Airport Fact Sheet 106 -
MASAC.
Commissioner Stein submitted Advisory Circulars which include information
on new airport designs, etc. It was noted that the City can order information
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from the FAA.
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There being no further business, the Airport Relations Commission moved to
adjourn its meeting at 8:58 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary
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