11-12-1997 ARC MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
AIRPORT RELATIONS COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 12, 1997 - MINUTES
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Airport Relations Commission was held
on Wednesday, November 12, 1997 in the City Hall Large Conference Room, 1 10 1
Victoria Curve. The meeting was called to order at 7:02 p.m. The following
members were present: Beaty, Des Roches, Fitzer, Leuman, Stein, Gross and May.
Also present were City Administrator Kevin Batchelder and Senior Secretary Kim
Blaeser.
INTRODUCTIONS
Chair Beaty acknowledged several residents present for the meeting. Mr. Pat
Randall, of 902 Cheri Lane, informed the Commission that he has been a
resident since February of 1991. He stated that the City's newsletter has
indicated the City's positive progress related to air noise issues. He informed
the Commission that he believes this past summer to be a terrible summer
related to air noise. He further noted his concerns with the inequity of Part
150 Noise Attenuation procedures and he inquired how homes are picked to
participate in the program. He stated that he does call the MAC Air Noise
Hotline on a regular basis.
Steve and Julie Hannig, of 909 Bluebill, informed the Commission that they
have been residents for one year. They noted their concerns with the
amount of air noise and they inquired about the Part 150 program.
City Administrator Batchelder explained the Federal standards of the Part
150 Program and informed the residents how the FAA regulates the Part 150
program. Batchelder explained that Part 150 Contour Map, the boundary
block additions and how the contours had originally been established.
MASAC REPRESENTATION - PROPOSED
BY-LAW CHANGES
Administrator Batchelder explained that the MASAC Executive Committee
has been discussing changes to the composition of the MASAC .board, at the
urging of the 'communities on both ends of the parallel runways. He
explained that the MASAC Executive Committee has made a
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recommendation to the MASAC board to consider a by-laws change that
would increase the size of MASAC from 34 to 38 members.
Batchelder stated that the change would give Minneapolis two additional
representatives for a total of six and Mendota Heights representation would
increase from one member to two, as would the City of Eagan. He stated
the City of St. Paul would lose two of their three members and all other
cities would keep their current levels of membership. The industry side of
the table would increase by two members from certified airlines using MSP.
Batchelder explained that the proposed amendments had been presented to
the MASAC board at their October 28, 1997 meeting and that it will be
voted on at their November/December meeting. Batchelder stated that
because this meeting coincides with the City Council's regular meeting, our
representative, Councilmember Jill Smith, and our alternates, Mayor
Mertensotto and staff (City Administrator Batchelder) are not able to attend
this meeting. Batchelder explained that the Commission should consider a
recommendation to the City Council to vote on this by-law amendment. He
informed the Commission that the Council can send a proxy vote by
resolution or Chair Beaty or Vice Chair Leuman may attend the December 2
meeting as alternates.
Chair Beaty stated that he would not be able to attend the meeting.
Commissioner Leuman stated he would check his schedule and call staff on
Thursday, December 13.
The Commission discussed their concern for adding additional industry
representation, especially if Northwest Airline adds more representation.
Commissioner Gross suggested that since the St. Paul Area Chamber of
Commerce and the Greater Minneapolis Chamber of Commerce have
representation on the MASAC, maybe the City should recommend that the
Northern Dakota County Chamber of Commerce be represented on the
MASAC. Other Commission members concurred with this suggestion.
Commissioner Gross moved to recommend that the City Council vote in
favor of the MASAC By -Law Amendments. Commissioner May offered a
friendly amendment to add representation from the Northern Dakota County
Chamber of Commerce on the industry side of MASAC.
Commissioner Stein seconded the motion.
AYES: 7
NAYS: 0
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The Commission noted that John Foggia is no longer the ANOMS Technical
Advisor. It was noted that Mr. Roy Fuhrman has replaced Mr. Foggia.
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Administrator Batchelder reported that on October 21, 1997, the City
Council adopted Resolution No. 97-74, A RESOLUTION REQUESTING
INSTRUCTIONS AND INFORMATION GUIDELINES FOR COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN AMENDMENT OT FACILITATE A PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT. He noted that in approving this resolution, the City Council
requested that the Metropolitan Council provide instructions and
informational guidelines to Hoffman Homes regarding land use compatibility
issues with residential housing in the air noise zones.
Batchelder explained that at the October 14, 1997 workshop on the
Comprehensive Plan, the issue of land use compatibility/air noise received the
highest priority from the Council and Commissioners. He stated that
Hoffman Homes has met with the Met Council and that Hoffman Homes'
attorney reports that the Metropolitan Council has indicated that they are not
likely to be flexible with their newly adopted Aviation Guide Plan policies.
Batchelder explained that on Monday, November 10, 1997, City staff met
with representatives from the Metropolitan Council. He stated that at this
meeting, staff informed Met Council representatives that the City has not
benefitted from many years of cooperation on land use compatibility with
the Metropolitan Council. Batchelder explained that staff pointed out that
Mendota Heights was the only City to adopt a Noise Attenuation Ordinance
and that our reward for zoning an commercial/industrial corridor has been
ever increasing air traffic that has spilled out of the originally designed
corridor into our residential neighborhoods. Batchelder explained that the
Met Council was informed that acceptance of the corridor has been
interpreted and used by MAC as acceptance of an unlimited volume of air
traffic in our direction. Batchelder stated that the Preferential Runway Use
System (PROS) is predicated on land use compatibility and indicates that the
Eagan/Mendota Heights corridor will be used first and foremost for aircraft
departures at MSP, given weather conditions.
Batchelder explained that the Met Council realizes the significance of the
property the City is concerned about and that they realize taking the parcel of
land off of the City's tax roll would be a detriment- to the City. Batchelder
stated the Met Council representatives inquired what the City of Mendota
Heights desired to see this parcel, and other parcels in the noise zones,
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become. Batchelder stated it is becoming increasingly evident that the City
needs to consider how this parcel of land can be used. Batchelder stated
that the Mr. Tom McElveen, of the Met Council, had requested that the staff
of Met Council visit the Resurrection Cemetery site, the Garron site, and the
Wenzel site at Lexington and Wagon Wheel, to determine how the Aviation
Guide Plan guidelines work on these particular sites and report back to
Mendota Heights in early December.
Chair Beaty stated that he has a difficult time seeing residential homes being
constructed in this area. He stated that if homes are constructed, he knows
that significant air noise complaints will be documented. Batchelder stated
that the City Council has not judged, or ruled on, the merits of Hoffman
Homes' townhouse proposal. Beaty stated that the City should pressure the
MAC to move the corridor further south.
Batchelder explained how the Community Stabilization Working Group should
address these issues.
LETTER TO MAC ON 3RD
PARALLEL RUNWAY EXHIBITS
Administrator. Batchelder explained that at the October 14 Airport Relations
Commission meeting, he was asked to invite Mr. Nigel Finney to discuss
graphics sent by the MAC regarding properties in Mendota Heights that
would be impacted by a potential third parallel runway at MSP. Batchelder
explained that at a recent Dakota County Mayors/Administrators Breakfast,
he spoke with Mr. Jeffrey Hamiel who informed him that the MAC is very
close to signing contracts with the Cities of Minneapolis and Eagan regarding
the third parallel runway. Batchelder informed the Commission that as a
result of this conversation, he suggested to Mr. Finney that it might be more
appropriate for all three cities to decide on appropriate exhibits for defining
affected property owners that would be attached to the contract.
Batchelder informed the Commission that he had received a letter from Mr.
Finney confirmed that they are continuing to discuss the terms of the
contract with the City of Minneapolis and have done a preliminary analysis of
the areas impacted by the runway. Batchelder stated that Mr. Finney agrees
that a common approach to identifying the impacted areas in each
community makes a great deal of sense and is the direction the MAC should
follow.
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Commissioner May suggested that the Commission receive an update on the
Minneapolis/Eagan negotiations with MAC. Commissioner Des Roches
concurred. Commissioner May felt that the City of Mendota Heights would
benefit by being informed of the progress of the negotiations. Commissioner
Stein agreed and also suggested that the Commission consider inviting
representatives from the Met Council to discuss noise zone contours.
The Commission requested that staff contact Minneapolis, Eagan and MAC
representatives about the progress on the Third Parallel Runway contract
negotiations and to invite Mr. Nigel Finney to discuss the concepts and
assumptions that would produce a map of affected property owners.
LETTER TO MAC ON ENVIRONMENTAL
ASSESSMENT FOR PROPOSED EXTENSION
OF RUNWAY 4/22
The Commission, was of the consensus that the letter sent by Administrator
Batchelder to Ms. Kimberly C. Hughes, of HNTB Corporation, regarding the
Environmental Assessment of the proposed 1,000 foot extension of Runway
4-22 at MSP Airport was a good summary of the City's sentiments.
The Commission acknowledged the City Council's concerns regarding
Hubbing Operation, Related Airport Development, Increase in Enplanements,
Project Alternatives and Environmental Analysis.
COMMUNITY STABILIZATION WORKING GROUP
Administrator Batchelder informed the Commission that this group has been
meeting once a month. He briefly reviewed an outline regarding topics the
Commission will be discussing.
MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION ON RUNWAYS
AND OPERATIONS PROVIDED BY MR. JIM SERRIN,
MINNEAPOLIS MASAC REPRESENTATIVES
The Commission acknowledged receipt of information regarding runway use
at MSP. The Commission noted that it appears that airlines are hushkitting
aircraft as opposed to purchasing Stage III aircraft. Chair Beaty felt that
incentives should be placed on airlines who fly Stage III aircraft as opposed
to those who fly hushkitted aircraft: Commissioner Stein submitted an
article regarding hushkitting in Europe and how they view hushkitting to not
be effective in the reduction of noise.
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ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF VARIOUS
REPORTS/CORRESPONDENCE
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the MASAC Agenda for October
28, 1997 and September 23, 1997 Minutes. Chair Beaty noted that the
new shoulder hours will go into effect after the first of the year. It was
noted that the ANOMS will be up and running in January 1998.
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the MASAC Executive Committee
Minutes of October 9, 1997.
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the Airport Noise Report for
October 24, 1997. Commissioner Stein discussed an article regarding
O'Hare Airport being acknowledged by the Illinois Environmental Protection
Agency as one of the largest sources of toxic air pollution in the State of
Illinois. Stein wondered if the City of Mendota Heights should be concerned.
Chair Beaty inquired if St. Thomas Academy would be willing to conduct
additional tests, when they conduct their annual testing in the spring, to
determine if the lakes are polluted with chemicals from aircraft, ie., benzene
and formaldehyde.
The Commission directed Administrator Batchelder to inquire with St.
Thomas Academy to find out if their annual lake testing could include testing
for chemicals such a benzene.
Ms. Hannig, 909 Bluebill Drive, inquired about Close -in procedures and why
they have not be implemented. She stated that she had read about this
procedure in the City's newsletter and has not seen much regarding this
procedure recently. Administrator Batchelder explained that the MAC
overruled the City's request to implement this procedure off our end of the
parallel runways. He stated that this procedure will be used over the City of
Minneapolis. He informed Ms. Hannig that the City Council feels very
strongly about this issue and that the City intends to pursue this issue
further. Mr. Randall, of 902 Cheri Lane, stated that he does not understand
why the MAC will not allow this procedure to be implemented. He stated
that this is not an unusual situation and that other airports implement this
procedure (Orange County). Commissioner Fitzer stated that the ANOMS
report could collect data about how effective this procedure will be when it is
implemented on the Minneapolis side.
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the MASAC Technical Advisor's
Report (Abbreviated) for September 1997.
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Mr. Randall inquired about the effectiveness of the MAC Air Noise Hotline.
Chair Beaty discussed the Commission's effort in informing the community
about the hotline using refrigerator magnets. He stated that it is better to be
vocal because if a community is silent, it is assumed there is no problem.
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the MASAC Operations Committee
Minutes of October 17, 1997.
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the Eagan ARC Agenda for
November 13, 1997.
Commissioner Leuman inquired about an item under new business regarding
Request for Variance - 15 Degree Parallel Runway Separations.
Administrator Batchelder informed the Commission that this item was
discussed at a recent Northern Dakota County Airport Relations Coalition
meeting and that he believes Mr. Hohenstein to be updating his Commission
regarding this issue.
Batchelder briefly explained that the NDCARC believes that their respective
City Council's should request this variance if it will allow the aircraft to fly
more towards the center of the designated corridor. Chair Beaty explained
that simultaneously departing aircraft must maintain a fifteen degree
separation because the parallel runways are not far enough apart for safety
standards to allow simultaneous runway headings.
Batchelder stated that this item will be placed on an upcoming NDCARC
meeting agenda and that our ARC and Council will consider this request in
the near future. Commissioner Gross inquired if the City of Minneapolis
would agree with this request. He felt that the City of Minneapolis should be
involved and that it would help the effort.
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There being no further business, the Airport Relations Commission moved to
adjourn its meeting at 9:26 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary
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