09-06-1995 ARC MinutesCITY OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
DAKOTA COUNTY, MINNESOTA
AIRPORT RELATIONS COMMISSION MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 6, 1995
The regular meeting of the Mendota Heights Airport Relations Commission was
held on Wednesday, September 6, 1995, in the City Hall Large Conference Room,
1101 Victoria Curve. The meeting was called to order at 8:07 o'clock P.M. The
following members were present: Beaty, Fitzer, Leuman, Surrisi. Commissioner
Olsen had informed the Commission that he would be late. Commissioners Olin
and Stein were excused. Also present were City Administrator Tom Lawell and
Senior Secretary Kim Blaeser.
Commissioner Leuman moved approval of the July 12, 1995 minutes.
Commissioner Fitzer seconded the motion.
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NAYS: 0
Commissioner Leuman moved approval of the August 9, 1995 minutes.
Commissioner Fitzer seconded the motion.
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NAYS: 0
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The Commission acknowledged receipt of the MASAC Agenda Packet from
August 22, 1995.
Chair Beaty pointed out that the MASAC Commission acknowledged receipt
of a letter addressed to Mayor Tom Egan, City of Eagan, from Mark Salmen,
of Northwest Airlines, responding to the Northern Dakota County Airport
Relations Coalition's request to address the "distant" and "close -in"
departure procedures as outlined in FAA Advisory Circular No. 91-53A.
Beaty stated that Mr. Salmen responded that the MASAC Operations
Committee will be evaluating the benefits of the NADPs, and that the final
determination will be made by the MAC, not the air carriers. Beaty informed
the Commission that the Coalition disagrees with Mr. Salmen's approach to:
this issue. The first set of decisions related to establishing NADDs were
made by the air carriers, and the Coalition would like NWA to reevaluate the
decisions they have already made relative to this issue.
Chair Beaty noted that the ANOMS report has not been submitted for
r Commission review due to technical difficulties.
Administrator Lawell submitted the Operations and Complaint Summary for
July 1995. It was noted that 100 complaints were received from Mendota
Heights citizens. The Commission pointed out that 114 calls were received
from St. Paul citizens. Administrator Lawell reviewed a Complaint Summary
map. It was noted that the area south of the Curley Addition registered
over 10 complaints.
The Commission felt that this summer's complaints were low due to
weather conditions being hot and humid and that most people had their
windows closed with their air conditioning on. The Commission also
discussed the possibility of citizens getting tired of putting forth an effort in
complaining about air noise.
Administrator Lawell submitted a copy of the July 17, 1995 Special Meeting
Minutes of the Metropolitan Airports Commission. The minutes noted that
improvements of $300 million were made at Denver's Stapleton after the
decision had been made to build a new airport and that these improvements
were critical to the continued operation of Stapleton. The minutes also.
summarized discussion about the new Denver airport and that 80 major
contracts in the design area and 90 major contracts were involved in the
construction management. The entire project experienced 14,000 change
orders. It was noted that general airport revenue bonds were the major
funding source with the first issue in 1989.
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the July 13, 1995 MASAC
Operations Committee minutes. The Commission discussed a letter of
request from the City of Eagan's Airport Relations Commission asking for
flight track analysis for operations southeast of MSP for the weekends of
April 29-30 and May 6-7. It was noted that the first weekend had
extremely loud aircraft noise while the second weekend was quiet. The City
of Eagan is interested in an analysis of these two weekends in terms of
compliance with current corridor boundaries and gate analysis. The City of
Eagan asked the MAC to discuss conditions of those weekends with the
FAA to determine operations or weather conditions which caused the
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difference in noise on the eastern edge of the Eagan.
The Commission discussed requesting from the MASAC Operations
Committee a special report comparing huskitted and non huskitted aircraft
flight paths over the City of Mendota Heights. Administrator Lawell stated
that he would inquire with the Committee.
r The Commission acknowledged receipt of the South Metro Airport Action
Council letter dated August 17, 1995.
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the NWA Letter to Inver Grove
Heights dated August 4, 1995. Chair Beaty informed the Commission that
the NDCARC will continue to send correspondence to the attention of Mr.
Salmen at NWA.
The Commission acknowledged receipt of the Metropolitan Airports
Commission 1994 Report to the Public.
DISCUSS DUAL TRACK AIRPORT PLANNING STATUS AND
STRATEGIES FOR EFFECTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN
THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS
Administrator Lawell explained that the Commission has been discussing the
status of the Dual Track Airport Planning process and the fast approaching
deadlines which will decide this important issue.
Lawell explained that Mendota Heights' position is to not give an opinion on
the Dual Track process until the result of the study are fully known.
Lawell summarized that Dakota County Commissioner Bataglia had informed
the Cities of Mendota Heights, Eagan, Inver Grove Heights and Sunfish Lake
that an organized group known as SOAR would be making a presentation to
the Dakota County Board of Commissioners on the status of their efforts to
keep the new airport out of southern Dakota County. Lawell explained that
SOAR's presentation concluded by having the County Commissioner who
represents the Hastings area present a resolution which would formally
declare that Dakota County is opposed to a new airport and the very idea of
land banking for the future. Lawell explained that representatives from the
northern Dakota County cities were able to convince the other
commissioners that this topic requires further discussion prior to the County
taking a formal position.
Lawell explained that this matter was tabled unit the September 26th
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Dakota County Physical Development Committee meeting. He stated that
the Commission should spend time discussing:the City's pbsition before
appearing before the County Board on September 26th.
With respect to long term lobbying efforts, Chair Beaty stated that the
Commission should consider taking a position on whether the airport should
stay or be moved. He stated that Mendota Heights' real frustration is the
air noise issue. Beaty suggested that the City consider being in favor of
moving the airport unless specific terms are met such as narrowing the
existing corridor and equitable distribution noise.
The Commission discussed the County's concern for selective land banking
and commercial land banking.
Commissioner Surrisi inquired if the City is aware of the community's
opinion on whether the airport should stay or be moved. She stated that a
number of Mendota Heights residents have moved to this community due to
the proximity of the airport. Commissioner Beaty stated that a survey could
be conducted but that he is concerned about uninformed opinions and that
the community needs to be educated more about the air noise problem.
Administrator Lawell explained that the City has conducted surveys in the
past on other non -airport related topics. Commissioners Surrisi and Olsen
agreed that a survey may prove useful.
Chair Beaty stated that if the airport stays in place, we need to know how
the community of Mendota Heights be protected from air noise.
Administrator Lawell reviewed biographical information on key legislators
who are involved in transportation matters. Specifically, legislators who are
involved on the House Transportation and Transit Committee, the Senate
Transportation and Public Transit Committee and the Senate Transportation
and Public Transit Finance Division Committee. Chair Beaty noted that there
are several out state committee members. The Commission discussed the
possibility of hiring a professional lobbyist. Chair Beaty suggested that the
City Council consider pursuing a professional lobbyist who specializes in
transportation issues. Commissioner Olsen suggested that the NDCARC
should become involved and should be the organization to pursue a
professional lobbyist. He stated that a common position amongst the Cities
makes for a better stand. Commissioner Surrisi concurred. Chair Beaty
stated that the Cities of Sunfish Lake and Inver Grove Heights may be close
to Mendota Heights' stand on moving the airport.
The Commission suggested that if the airport stays, then the following
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should occur:
1. Shrink corridor as new technology permits.
2. Equitable distribution of noise
3. NAPD standards, better use of Stage III aircraft
4. Nighttime standards
5. Define corridor boundaries and implement fines for noise violation
6. Move general aircraft to reliever airport
7.- Not construct third parallel runway until 2015
Commissioner Surrisi wondered if the MAC is of the opinion that the airport
will never be moved. She also stated that some people believe that in the
future, people will be traveling less due to increased technology.
Commissioner Surrisi stated that the airport will probably have to be moved
and that if that airport does stay, then we will have to live with it. She
stated that she is convinced that the MAC cannot meet our conditions.
Chair Beaty stated that the City should try, its best to require that these
conditions be met and that the media should be informed.
The Commission discussed that by modifying the corridor departure
procedures, overflights would be limited over populated areas.
The Commission discussed including other surrounding' City interests and
not just focusing on Mendota Heights interests.
In response to a request from the Commission, Administrator Lawell stated
he would get a progress report on the mediation process and expenses from
Metropolitan Council staff member Nacho Dias.
The Commission discussed how the City needs to be more assertive in
dealing with the inequitable distribution of noise and that the City needs to
be more specific in letting the MAC know that Mendota -Heights is receiving
the brunt of the air noise.
The Commission discussed better use of the corridor during non peak hours.
Chair Beaty suggested that non peak hours be defined as 10:30 p.m. to
6:00 a.m. The Commission discussed day time operations and how Chair
Beaty's suggestion would not include these operations. Commissioner
Surrisi suggested that the corridor could best be defined and used when
there is no potential conflict.
Commissioner Surrisi was excused at 10:28 o'clock P.M.
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The Commission discussed noise abatement departure procedures and how
Stage 3 aircraft will help minimize the noise impact on populated areas. The
Commission discussed implementing nighttime restrictions and how fines
could be incorporated if the restrictions are not adhered to by the airlines.
Commissioner Olsen stated that he does not want to see a growth in
nighttime procedures. The Commission was of the consensus that Stage 2
aircraft should not be allowed to fly during nighttime operations.
Commissioner Olsen stated that the airport should not stay if the north
parallel runway is to someday be constructed. He stated that a north
parallel runway should not be considered until the capacity on the
north/south runway is maximized.
DISCUSS UPDATE OF MENDOTA HEIGHTS
AIRPORT NOISE PLAN OF ACTION
The Commission was of the consensus to table this discussion until their
October 11, 1995 meeting.
VERBAL UPDATES
Administrator Lawell discussed the status of implementing the non -
simultaneous crossingprocedure. p cedure. Lawell stated that he has requested
copies of the recently modeled contours from HNTB.
Administrator Lawell stated the City Council will be reviewing the
Minneapolis/St. Paul Airport Area Community Protection Concept Package at
their September 13 workshop.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the Airport Relations Commission moved to
adjourn its meeting at 10:50 o'clock P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kimberlee K. Blaeser
Senior Secretary
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